============================================================== Guild: APEX Chat Channel: Insitor (IC) / avalon ============================================================== [25-Sep-21 07:45 PM] saganaki#0000 .playchat avalon [25-Sep-21 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 Registered Avalon Global Site Owners to play back in this channel [25-Sep-21 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: depends on the votes [25-Sep-21 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Is the consumable need dependent on the bonus type? [25-Sep-21 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: no it same [25-Sep-21 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: So, does the first week's PIO bonus not use consumables, or do they mean that the PIO week isn't important anyway? [25-Sep-21 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: I think what he means is that 1 week of PIO allows us a week to rearrange our bases as we see the votes come in [25-Sep-21 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: and yes im pretty sure it takes consumbles [25-Sep-21 09:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: that, and also we get better numbers on the amounts of consumables needed [25-Sep-21 09:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: but eh, I'll use an approximation that will cover the weeks ahead [25-Sep-21 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: so this is a notice to all you SW/RAT/MCG/PE producers to get ready! [25-Sep-21 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: besides that, we also need to have a discussion on raising taxes to pay for the debt, future popi, and upkeep of the CoGC [25-Sep-21 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: before I say anything, I'd like to hear all of your thoughts on this matter [25-Sep-21 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Tbh fees are currently trivial to me. Maybe people with many cheap PIO buildings would be more affected? [25-Sep-21 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: im a big fan of raising production taxes, i think LM and WAR taxes should stay put, and i think the per-day cost on LM should be 0 [25-Sep-21 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Why specifically the per-day cost? [25-Sep-21 09:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i think people should be able to post an indefinite order for the one time cost. its silly to punish people that want to constantly offer goods on LM. 0 per-day cost makes LM work more like CX, and fluid markets should be good for everyone [25-Sep-21 09:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Makes sense. That being said, 100 orders on the LM interface is a lot harder to parse than 100 CX orders [25-Sep-21 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i think with our current scale, more LM orders is a goal. if its too much, ill likely shift my stance [25-Sep-21 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: production fees are assumed to be the majority of any planets tax income, and i think the footprint they have is negligible [25-Sep-21 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: our current production fees are 20ICA per day per building for all industries, i think even 40/day/bui would have small impacts on the taxpayer and close to double our income, from my assumptions [25-Sep-21 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: EXT on avalon are looking around 1300 daily profit, FP around 1100, BMP around 2000; the production fees are super small, changing them by 10s is minor [25-Sep-21 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: yess i agree 0 day increments on LM is nice. boucher has same thing and i think its working well [25-Sep-21 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 3 per day is super small, but it still makes people think "ill just set it to something short". we should encourage long term LM contracts [25-Sep-21 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Most of my buildings are around 2k profit/day, not counting repairs [25-Sep-21 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: So yeah, 40ICA/building/day would make no difference to me [25-Sep-21 11:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Altura16**: seems like a lot - just checked Prom, Berthier and Boucher - each are 10 or less. [26-Sep-21 12:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: id assume the increase would be temporary until we were out of debt. it is a lot compared to other ADMs, but i think that the entire universe is just taxing very little. id honestly pay 100/day/bui for 2 months to get a COGC, but that isnt really needed [26-Sep-21 05:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ordynateur** joined.* [26-Sep-21 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: Yes the main planets are charging way less, but they had the luxury of having the majority of players from the start, at a time where they didn't have to worry about safety dropping and such, so got a good buffer from the start [26-Sep-21 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: Avalon and the other new starter planets have to work a bit harder for that, but I share the believe that raising the taxes to 30 or something like that barely has an noticeable impact but increases tax revenue by a lot [26-Sep-21 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: and the more income, the sooner we are out of debt and can lower taxes again :) [26-Sep-21 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: So, is the next project a safety station? [26-Sep-21 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Or something more advanced? [26-Sep-21 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: yeah next thing after that would for sure be safety station. But lets finish GoGC up first =D [26-Sep-21 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: um [26-Sep-21 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: so I was part of the auction for the wrong planet. who do I talk to lol [26-Sep-21 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: its not wrong planet, its Promitor [26-Sep-21 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: anyone was welcome to participate, i gave you a heads up so you could do business [26-Sep-21 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: crap [26-Sep-21 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: well, i can't ship the stuff to prom [26-Sep-21 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: and the technical answer to your question is "juzek" [26-Sep-21 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: why not? [26-Sep-21 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: got it. illl reach out. thank you! [26-Sep-21 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: well, the spreadsheet didn't say prom, for one. i think? [26-Sep-21 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: it did [26-Sep-21 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: oh [26-Sep-21 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i can fly stuff to prom if you need it [26-Sep-21 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: ok. [26-Sep-21 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: ill see how the contract thing works (i still dont have anything assigned to me, etc) [26-Sep-21 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: would I see the contract show up in Prom's LM or something like that> [26-Sep-21 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yeah, itll be a LM contract, but youre likely to talk to their governor first [26-Sep-21 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: got i [26-Sep-21 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: it* [26-Sep-21 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sdlouisee**: Hi, would really appreciate if someone can sell me 1 FE, ad posted in the local market [26-Sep-21 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: If anyone is looking to start a second base soon, I can make your lfabs. Support local businesses! [26-Sep-21 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bardatron** joined.* [26-Sep-21 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: depends on things, but i think im 14-20 days out from 2nd base ^^ ill contact you when [26-Sep-21 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Has anyone told you guys you have a great community? [26-Sep-21 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: avalon is the #1 planet when we rank according to spirit :D [26-Sep-21 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: Avalon is my production base :) [26-Sep-21 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: @sdlouisee I'm currently all out as I used it all in the ALO shortage - I've got some on the boil but it'll be 10 hours as it's behind an AL production task [26-Sep-21 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: if you still need it when I have some I'll do the trade [26-Sep-21 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: and because I'm too thich to count properly make that 22 hours - sorry - hopefully someone else can help [26-Sep-21 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: ugh I see carbon is this week's rising star [26-Sep-21 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: gross [26-Sep-21 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: it about now I think about building a carbon farm somewhere [26-Sep-21 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Promitor maybe? [26-Sep-21 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Archasnails**: Hi,which tab will Tectosilisite(TS) be on in Hortus station Commodity exchange. [26-Sep-21 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: The easiest way is probably to just open a new buffer and do CXP TS.IC1 (or CXPC or CXOB) [26-Sep-21 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Archasnails**: tx [26-Sep-21 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: PWO up on the LM [26-Sep-21 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ugh, my SMEs are out of inputs :( [26-Sep-21 06:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: same [26-Sep-21 06:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: no FLX [26-Sep-21 06:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: no flx, no C, no O [26-Sep-21 06:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: so I guess if anyone wants to buy some ALO, I've got it [26-Sep-21 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: what was that planet that was selling LST? [26-Sep-21 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: seems like a good time to ship in LST [26-Sep-21 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: thanks! [26-Sep-21 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: I will let them know to put some up, LM is empty at the moment [26-Sep-21 07:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: if you want less than a shipload, contact @postlim [26-Sep-21 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: JS-572c also has some [26-Sep-21 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: hmm JS-572c is 1 jump shorter [26-Sep-21 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: not bad [26-Sep-21 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: ^^ damn, trying to advertise the one that I am affiliated with =D [26-Sep-21 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: FYI, a ship of mine just picked up a load of LST and will be at HRT in 2d [26-Sep-21 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: what are you selling them at [26-Sep-21 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Seems hard to determine a price right now, given that there are no offers - 120? [26-Sep-21 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: hmm imma see if i can just put out shipping orders to moria for now [26-Sep-21 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: i feel like you could sell at like 180 before people start settling in with more [26-Sep-21 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I will drop some on the CX at a spread of prices, probably. But I've just put up ads @ 120 for anyone willing to commit in advance [26-Sep-21 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: how long should I wait before I don't get a reply from the governor of the auctions? [26-Sep-21 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: and I decide to move the merch that I won the auctions for? [26-Sep-21 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: If it was the promitor auction, maybe 3 days? since that was the delivery timeline? [26-Sep-21 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: you can probably find the governor on discord too [26-Sep-21 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: ok. ill reach out [27-Sep-21 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Khaorix** joined.* [27-Sep-21 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: morning everybody [27-Sep-21 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: or afternoon for you europe folks :) [27-Sep-21 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheBombBunny** joined.* [27-Sep-21 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: good morning to you americans [27-Sep-21 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: mornin' [27-Sep-21 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: id like to talk about taxation again; ill give you some time to read the prior discussion if you havent and would like to :) [27-Sep-21 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: hmm [27-Sep-21 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: the per day LM fees makes sense, I guess [27-Sep-21 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: I think it's negligible either ways but if it makes people more comfortable making longer ads then sure [27-Sep-21 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: hopefully it doesn't turn out that it's significant [27-Sep-21 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: for production taxes, 40/day/bui would be good yeah [27-Sep-21 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ok; thats about all i had thought of; if anyone has dissenting opinions id be happy to discuss pros/cons [27-Sep-21 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Wow BDE is not bad to sell [27-Sep-21 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: if you can get any to sell on the cx [27-Sep-21 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: Hmph, as per the discussion on the planet chat, the current tax plan as proposed by Dragonicorp and agreed to by (as far as I know) Assanova is to raise the production fees per building per day to 40 ICA each to pay off the CoGC. Furthermore, we will remove the daily LM fees (the number 3 - change it to 0). The production fees will remain at those levels until the CoGC debt is paid off, and then return to their current levels (at 20 ICA each). [27-Sep-21 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: If there are no dissenting opinions, this plan will come into effect by the next taxation cycle (i.e., in 6 days and 7 hours time). If there are dissenting opinions, please leave a message in the feedback form according to this link. We'll see what sort of responses we get, and then move on from there. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdPW6R4NoudV4EHPOYiHpuYIBS8KcvNjg77npubZMto2XINFA/viewform?usp=sf_link {Embed} https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdPW6R4NoudV4EHPOYiHpuYIBS8KcvNjg77npubZMto2XINFA/viewform?usp=sf_link Welcome to the Government of Avalon! If you are here to give suggestions on future projects, or any other feedback do press 'To give suggestions' Otherwise, If you are here to bid on projects you may click on 'To bid on projects' https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/3eg3jwiyGHACG94CVEuxud5Z2zO_bjMReVSOscOoc80/https/lh5.googleusercontent.com/GhthDum7wXWL4o1WuRVvmpTQB4bd4YY7yd4EJCaZ2jbSTaRl5FIHECuqab8dWuju11Vr38b1C2M%3Dw1200-h630-p [27-Sep-21 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: The argument for raising production taxes is that: 1.1) Avalon has a small player base, and therefore a small tax base, and therefore is forced to charge higher taxes to build things if we want to get things done. 1.2) The production fees are per day per building. Therefore, they are pretty insignificant (if you're running a building making 1300/day profit, even at taxes at ~100/day it's not awful). Most buildings probably have much higher profits/day anyways. 1.3) Avalon needs to pay its debts so that it can maintain the CoGC all the time. [27-Sep-21 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: The argument for lowering marginal LM fees (the 3 ICA per additional day) 2.1) It's probably insignificant, 3*20 is 60 and not many people put up ads for 20 days anyways 2.2) Encourages the use of LM, because though it's insignificant to the government it kind of feels really bad when you post an LM. The idea is that, especially with the warehouse update, that people will be more comfortable using the LM after this to do things like post sell ads for consumables all the time (and maybe if more people use it it balances out in terms of revenue!) [27-Sep-21 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: The argument against raising production fees are 3.1) Other planets have it much much lower! This is true, but the countercounterargument is that [other planets also have much larger player bases, and have been here collecting taxes from full planets from the start of the game. Therefore, since they have a broader tax base it is natural that their taxes are lowered]. 3.2) Taxation is theft! And that doubling the taxes significantly impact players. [27-Sep-21 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***yesplease** deleted this message.* [27-Sep-21 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: The argument against the lowering of marginal LM fees: 4.1) It's insignificant, and not necessary. If people wanted to post ads for 20 days they would have already, coz 60 ICA is not too bad [27-Sep-21 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: Once again, this tax plan will take effect in 6 days and 7 hours if there are no dissenting opinions [27-Sep-21 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: I'd liek to ask people who dissent to please provide a counterproposal and justify it, if they choose to do so. [27-Sep-21 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: 👍 [27-Sep-21 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i cant *prove* it, but just from reading planetary exchanges from UFO and whatnot, several of the large starter planets operate of off a lot of generosity from richer players, such as proxion, phobos, etc. we cant really expect some bigshot to pay our COGC upkeep half on his own, so we kinda *should* expect to see higher taxes here than elsewhere [27-Sep-21 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: I think Proxion is player payed because they are going for SCI, which adds a lot of upkeep cost [27-Sep-21 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Anyone want 1 BDE? [27-Sep-21 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Holy__Spirit** joined.* [27-Sep-21 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yes [27-Sep-21 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Ad is up [27-Sep-21 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I have a ship at HRT that can take cargo [27-Sep-21 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: you posted buy instead of sell [27-Sep-21 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Again? Sorry [27-Sep-21 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Okay [27-Sep-21 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: cool thanks [27-Sep-21 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: np [27-Sep-21 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: you might want to delete your BDE buy order ^^ use LMOS [27-Sep-21 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I have 3 BBH,5 BSE and 1 BTA [27-Sep-21 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: are you selling those? [27-Sep-21 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: yes [27-Sep-21 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ill buy all the BSE and BTA [27-Sep-21 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: okay [27-Sep-21 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Is 1075 Each too much? [27-Sep-21 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: no [27-Sep-21 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Both ads are up [27-Sep-21 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: ty [27-Sep-21 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: enjoy the cash, lets make avalon strong together [27-Sep-21 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I will put up the BBH and TRU on the LM for anyone [27-Sep-21 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: after the above exchange i only need 1 BDE to through up the next building, ill set up a buy order at market ask ^^ [27-Sep-21 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: dang I just sent all my BDE to the cx [27-Sep-21 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i actually went for marketask+100, seems fair [27-Sep-21 03:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: well I can get you one in in a day and 8 hours [27-Sep-21 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i can get my own sooner than that. just looking for someone generous [27-Sep-21 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ah [27-Sep-21 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: we can just let the contract time out, its ok [27-Sep-21 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ight [27-Sep-21 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: posting again, looking for immediate delivery only :) [27-Sep-21 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: My batch of BDE will be done in 1h30m. I'll accept it then if no one else has [27-Sep-21 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yeah, that saves me some [27-Sep-21 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: if i were to get it from market, itd be another ~12 hours [27-Sep-21 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheSmithAries** deleted this message.* [27-Sep-21 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i was doing a bit of research, and i think we are actually pretty restricted in terms of planetary rules due to being in faction space [27-Sep-21 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: per-day LM fee is floored at 3, and the production fee is capped at 30 [27-Sep-21 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i dont really know why this feature is there, but it is :/ [27-Sep-21 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/tutorials/planetary-projects/ {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/tutorials/planetary-projects/ 6. Planetary Projects :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [27-Sep-21 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: you can see an example image there, yesplease should be able to confirm if this is so on their end [27-Sep-21 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: 3 BBH 4 sale 1548 each [27-Sep-21 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: ahhhh [27-Sep-21 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: unfrotunate [27-Sep-21 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: we can't get rid of the per-day LM fee [27-Sep-21 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: the minimum is 3! [27-Sep-21 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: shame, shame! [27-Sep-21 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: lets take Avalon, and declare ourselves an HRT-autonomous-zone [27-Sep-21 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: :P [27-Sep-21 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: secession! [27-Sep-21 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: ?Avalexit? [27-Sep-21 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Is that even possible? [27-Sep-21 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: no, not with current systems [27-Sep-21 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i think production taxes capped at 30 is even more harmful to our system, i guess this debt will only go away so fast [27-Sep-21 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: production taxes are capped at 90 [27-Sep-21 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: oh? [27-Sep-21 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: so we're still good on that [27-Sep-21 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: can you share a screen shot of your edit screen, as the wiki is evidentally no longer current [27-Sep-21 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: yeah if you go look at electronics [27-Sep-21 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: it's 90 [27-Sep-21 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: I'll change it back in 2 minutes tho [27-Sep-21 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: sure; can you share the full UI in the avalon politics channel nonetheless? i dont think we can see the possibilities otherwise [27-Sep-21 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: sure [27-Sep-21 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: twenty ICA taxes? D: [27-Sep-21 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: its been twenty this whole time [27-Sep-21 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: o it said it just changed [27-Sep-21 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: @Bant did you see the earlier conversation on taxes? [27-Sep-21 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: we would like to push it up to 40 until the debt is gone; have you objections? [27-Sep-21 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: No ^^;; [27-Sep-21 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yesplease turned electronics up to 90 and back down to 20 real quick as proof-of-concept XD [27-Sep-21 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: I guess I pay around 2k in taxes a day here, sheesh [27-Sep-21 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: ah xD [27-Sep-21 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: in our earlier analysis, we were comparing the profit/day expected from a starter building vs tax rates [27-Sep-21 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Oops you want me to take another shipment yesplease? [27-Sep-21 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 40/day is a drop in the bucket of most buildings making 1000-1500 per day [27-Sep-21 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i suppose having a near to full base does make that ad up per day, mm [27-Sep-21 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I just had a very productive six hours! Went from 4K to 13 K [27-Sep-21 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: its 40/day per cycle on a building that could cycle 5-6 times aday [27-Sep-21 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: and then i have 14 of those buildings [27-Sep-21 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: *20 [27-Sep-21 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: i have 23 buildings here actually lol. running with 5-6h cycle times [27-Sep-21 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: so with 40 tax I would pay about 4.2k a day [27-Sep-21 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: that is not insignificant at all :D [27-Sep-21 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: @bant I don't see how the cycle time matters? The tax scales with the time [27-Sep-21 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: 23*40 = 920 ICA/day? [27-Sep-21 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: because it takes taxes each time you finish a run of production [27-Sep-21 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: so 20 buildings finishing a production run 4 times a day at 40 ICA in taxes it quite a bit [27-Sep-21 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: I was not aware of that :pikachuface: [27-Sep-21 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: Dragonican explained it to me a in a discord message just now lol [27-Sep-21 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: I had always assumed it was per cycle and never bothered actually keeping track of it [27-Sep-21 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: and because you get taxed per cycle but i never bothered comparing the amounts [27-Sep-21 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: If you queue a short run, the fee is less [27-Sep-21 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: When should I consider constructing more buildings? [27-Sep-21 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: when you feel like you can keep them supplied [27-Sep-21 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: k [27-Sep-21 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: also if you can sell what the building produces [27-Sep-21 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Would a FP Be worth considering down the road? [27-Sep-21 06:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: hmm, hard to say [27-Sep-21 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: because you have additional transport costs,a nd you're likely buying from the CX ask [27-Sep-21 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: your RATs will be a lot more expensive than the CX [27-Sep-21 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: or at least, your profit margins will be a lot smaller [27-Sep-21 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: I'm not in the RAT business on Avalon so I can't say for certain, but I'm sure some people here with FPs can tell you how it's like? [27-Sep-21 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: but do run the numbers yourself [27-Sep-21 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: its nice if you have farms over at promito [27-Sep-21 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: unfortunately it seems like Prom is going back to pioneer COGC . We farmers are losing ... it will never be the same [27-Sep-21 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: nooooooo im so sad [27-Sep-21 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: not sarcasm, i detest PIO COGC on prom [27-Sep-21 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: just to reiterate, as our COGC is almost up, i currently advocate for Food industries COGC on Avalon, to fit in the with the surrounding strengths of HRT. HOWEVER, please please please dont vote PIO, vote literally any industry before PIO. thanks :) [27-Sep-21 06:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: What's the problem with PIO CoGC? [27-Sep-21 06:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yeah why not PIO? [27-Sep-21 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: PIO COGC is a middle road that serves no one in the end, and specialized industry is far better if we can just choose one. PIO COGC is bad bc its bonus is 10% vs a specialized industry's 25% [27-Sep-21 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: if even just 40% of your base was an industry and 100% of your workers were PIO, the industry specialization will already outweigh [27-Sep-21 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: PIO COGC is condemning ourselves to mediocracy [27-Sep-21 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEnvoy**: Food industries has my vote [27-Sep-21 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: :) welcome, and thank you [27-Sep-21 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i like it when big players show up on avalon, makes me feel like the planet is attractive :D [27-Sep-21 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEnvoy**: Im here to drop a full base of FPs ;) [27-Sep-21 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEnvoy**: That food industry vote will be very appealing to me [27-Sep-21 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEnvoy**: ALong with that, how long until we get an LM here? [27-Sep-21 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEnvoy**: Bah, nevermind [27-Sep-21 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: its been here for 3+ months [27-Sep-21 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: XD [27-Sep-21 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEnvoy**: I was looking at the wrong screen [27-Sep-21 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: this is half of the effect, drawing players due to our unique COGC ^^ rather than being the 10th t0 planet with PIO COGC, and a poor one to boot. instead we can be the Food Industry hub of the world [27-Sep-21 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEnvoy**: I mean [27-Sep-21 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEnvoy**: It sounds like there are a lot of opportunities to really capitalize on the location of 2 major planets near a CX. [27-Sep-21 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEnvoy**: It would almost be foolish to give up the advantage [27-Sep-21 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: Rubicate told me he was thinking of putting a base here if we get FP COGC ^^ draw in big business is what local govs want right? haha [27-Sep-21 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: come for the FI COGC, stay for the most active planetary chat [27-Sep-21 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ive been using kovus' new application, and i dont think any other planet comes close to how much we chatter XD [27-Sep-21 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: lol [27-Sep-21 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEnvoy**: That explains the lag I felt loading the window [27-Sep-21 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEnvoy**: We might need a TLDR bot for some of us. Otherwise we will never catch up to this chat [27-Sep-21 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEnvoy**: How steady is the Promitor to Avalon traffic? Pretty reliable for shipping contracts? [27-Sep-21 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: ye people advertise cargo space in chat often [27-Sep-21 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEnvoy**: Dope [27-Sep-21 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: or if you mean direct prom => avalon or vice versa, thats less common than avalon => CX but it does happen [27-Sep-21 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: tbh i have a base on both and i rarely fly directly between them myself lol [27-Sep-21 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i run it from time to time. maybe once a week? if i have business on Prom [27-Sep-21 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: im thinking of starting a little discord server to grease the gears of the Hortus triangle if this FI COGC passes [27-Sep-21 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEnvoy**: Too many discords [27-Sep-21 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: XD [27-Sep-21 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEnvoy**: Maybe a chat group> [27-Sep-21 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: chat group would be nice, except it has no features [27-Sep-21 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEnvoy**: I would feel better about keeping the chat for the shipping close to the rest of my Avalon UI [27-Sep-21 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i think it would be accompanied by a in game group for sure [27-Sep-21 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: avalon-boucher-prom is an excellent trifecta of planets, but only 4.2% of the playerbase has 3 bases. thats where we step in, making it safe to horizontally integrate into each planets specialties while helping you find buyers and sellers [27-Sep-21 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: or something like that [27-Sep-21 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEnvoy**: The issue is that we will crush the consumables market down if the rest of the markets arent growing too [27-Sep-21 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEnvoy**: im all for it though. an H2O pipeline from Boucher has been something that I have wanted for a bit [27-Sep-21 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: i mean, that exists already, boucher has the resource extraction COGC running a few weeks now [27-Sep-21 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: i dont think prom will stay on agri though too many people non-agri there [27-Sep-21 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: and honestly not super confident about avalon going FI for hte same reason but we'll se [27-Sep-21 07:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: if i talk enough, surely theyll agree with me :) [27-Sep-21 07:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: even if you dont directly benefit from FI COGC, youll surely enjoy cheaper DW, RAT, and COF [27-Sep-21 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: as i just said in UFO though, this game is "silent majority" filled. therell probably be players voting on COGC ive never spoken to before [27-Sep-21 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: the crazy thing though, is the boucher-prom-avalon almost supports all its own costs; as in the main costs of creating DW and RAT and OVE are DW and RAT and OVE. even if prices are suppressed, the business wont get that bad, just bc of how efficient the plan is. in response to theenvoy's "suppressing RAT/DW prices" a few minutes back XD [27-Sep-21 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheEnvoy** joined.* [27-Sep-21 09:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: LST has rebounded to 110 - anyone feel like buying 50 in advance @ 90? [27-Sep-21 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: got some PE to unload. Anyone looking before I post? [27-Sep-21 09:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Maybe, how much? [27-Sep-21 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: I can do 4.5/ea [27-Sep-21 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: There's an ad on the LM asking for 5.14/u [27-Sep-21 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: for 35u [27-Sep-21 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: what ad? :) [27-Sep-21 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: thanks lol [27-Sep-21 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'm leaving from the CX with a 12h flight time in a minute. anyone have any small packages to ship? [27-Sep-21 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: 36m^3 / 13t available [27-Sep-21 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: ty! [27-Sep-21 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: for PE [27-Sep-21 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Anytime! [27-Sep-21 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: If you ever need, send me a message. I can do much better than 5.14/ea. [27-Sep-21 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Gnite all [28-Sep-21 03:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **WordedWheel**: Just caught up on the cogc chatter. Saw prom was going pio again. Placed my vote for agri and tipped the scales for now. Dont run much pop there though due to all the rigs and farms. Fingers crossed [28-Sep-21 03:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: its over now, i was voting for scientist now i have swapped back [28-Sep-21 03:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: we will win! [28-Sep-21 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: good luck yall! [28-Sep-21 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: I know how frustrating it is when everyone votes PIO [28-Sep-21 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: we'll also cross that bridge on Avalon when we get there [28-Sep-21 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: anyhow [28-Sep-21 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UuAA1XMuxFqgAX2HfYzlqp80S2lO3ufu-wV2jUzTujA/edit#gid=82951646 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UuAA1XMuxFqgAX2HfYzlqp80S2lO3ufu-wV2jUzTujA/edit Kingdom Of Avalon Wealth Administration Governance Sheet Dashboard designed by yesplease GOVERNMENT OF AVALON ,CHANGELOG Link: https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Jq4LLH1phl2JLrXhseQTBmVfPnnEoU_xHWF5ndzidas/https/lh4.googleusercontent.com/FgPi73TgGSRC3kwWZK69F_nA9-Gvislu4vjAlwWLPGClmqd93LHT1QymRSQkD8qbS4BmHrcVC36t3w%3Dw1200-h630-p [28-Sep-21 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: The bids for our CoGC close tomorrow! [28-Sep-21 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: remember to bid if you want to sell some L-fabs! [28-Sep-21 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Thanks, bid on 3 [28-Sep-21 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ooh boy, this means the COGC-consumable bid is up next, my favorite! [28-Sep-21 08:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: Have some HRT>>Avalon shipping up if anyone is doing that trip :) [28-Sep-21 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEnvoy**: How much space do you have? [28-Sep-21 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEnvoy**: I need about 200m/300t [28-Sep-21 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anyone have 1x COF I can buy? [28-Sep-21 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Ad up :) [28-Sep-21 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Still got LST up on the LM for well below CXP... [28-Sep-21 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: @theEnvoy, it am looking for someone to take my stuff with them ^^ its only a small one, on LM [28-Sep-21 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I have 2 ships about to arrive at HRT. One will probably head to Avalon immediately. [28-Sep-21 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I've got two ships on avalon right now. Happy to send one to HRT if I can get enough cash to cover the fuel [28-Sep-21 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ugh, I wish stuff sent with shipping contracts had package tracking :P [28-Sep-21 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: me too [28-Sep-21 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: You can ask them for the ship ID [28-Sep-21 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: theoretically tracking individual shipments wouldn't be that hard to add in FIO, but it does feel a little invasive [28-Sep-21 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Yeah, FIO tries to only show public info [28-Sep-21 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: And you'd only be able to track shipments carried by plugin users [28-Sep-21 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: @desan sorry, I wasn't going fast enough to take your package contract [28-Sep-21 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: anyone need MCG? selling 200 at 20/unit [28-Sep-21 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: going slower than 1 day for that route? @lordcirth? [28-Sep-21 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: I have another ad up to, a bit bigger [28-Sep-21 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: hey guys. Anyone interested in some PE? [28-Sep-21 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Send me a message if so, please. At work :) [28-Sep-21 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: BBH Anyone? [28-Sep-21 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheSmithAries** deleted this message.* [28-Sep-21 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I'm selling [28-Sep-21 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: @desan, yeah, I usually do 2d unless they are aligned [28-Sep-21 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I really hope they put electrolysis in the game so you can Convert water to hydrogen and oxygen [28-Sep-21 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: and the other way around [28-Sep-21 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I believe they intend to add electricity & power plants, so I expect that will happen [28-Sep-21 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KyZekk** deleted this message.* [28-Sep-21 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: any timeline on those plans? [28-Sep-21 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Not that I know of. It seems the next major milestone is a working mobile UI [28-Sep-21 03:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ah well I would much prefer that to a mobile UI [28-Sep-21 03:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: BSE.IC1 prefab prices seem to be dropping :( [28-Sep-21 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: anyone want to lend me 4 AL? I can give it back in 18 hours [28-Sep-21 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I'm a bit short myself, I'm afraid [28-Sep-21 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: oof [28-Sep-21 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Got more coming in 2d, though [28-Sep-21 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: nah I need it rn sadly [28-Sep-21 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Probably best to just put up a 1-day buy ad on the LM, rather than asking to "borrow" it [28-Sep-21 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'll have some in 8.5h [28-Sep-21 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I could but I have a ship on its way with FLX that I can use to smelt 4 AL [28-Sep-21 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: just dont want my PP2 to stop running [28-Sep-21 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: /glances at my four stopped PP2s [28-Sep-21 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: When will it stop? [28-Sep-21 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: oooof [28-Sep-21 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: 2 hours [28-Sep-21 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: oh it will stop in 9 hours [28-Sep-21 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: the ship is 2 out [28-Sep-21 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: So, you're good? [28-Sep-21 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: well it will take 16 hours to smelt the AL [28-Sep-21 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Ah, I see [28-Sep-21 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'll have a bit of AL in 8h37m, but I might not be awake to push the button [28-Sep-21 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: so it wont be running for 9 hours [28-Sep-21 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: You wouldn't happen to have GL? [28-Sep-21 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: nah I should be fine I just want to get these LSE on their way to mortem to be changed into HSE [28-Sep-21 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: sadly I dont. I have SIO though [28-Sep-21 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: just no GF [28-Sep-21 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Yeah. I was just thinking that if I could switch to LTA, I could stretch my AL more [28-Sep-21 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yeah' [28-Sep-21 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: the volume for l-fabs is way lower than bfabs, at least locally [28-Sep-21 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: also true [28-Sep-21 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: LTA.CI1 was looking good last I checked, though [28-Sep-21 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: vs LTA.IC1 [28-Sep-21 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: That is quite the gap... [28-Sep-21 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: yeah [28-Sep-21 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: the LTA that exist somewhere in the netherspace of shipping contracts between here and BEN keep reminding me of that [28-Sep-21 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Looks like an even thinner market, though [28-Sep-21 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: if I had the cash, I'd buy enough Lfabs to clear the book at BEN and head a ship that way [28-Sep-21 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: but alas, am poor [28-Sep-21 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: hey avalon crew, you guys all know LG-093a, the planet weve been flying to in order to collect ALO and LST? weeeeell theres a poll to name a planet for free, and i think itd be awesome if LG-093a was named, so we could refer to it more directly. if you would also like LG-093a to be named, vote here! [28-Sep-21 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/name-that-planet-round-4/3759/10 {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/name-that-planet-round-4/3759/10 Name THAT Planet Round 4 Ok seems like we’ve got some good suggestions going. Let the voting begin! First vote on which planet will receive a name: poll https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/x0Lcv9Tc0WstLZAut1pc9Cply1Z-ZpDJ_X3qJLQ4S_k/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/1X/9637dadda95e302d05ebee320ec8473189637a64.jpg [28-Sep-21 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Done! Winning so fae. [28-Sep-21 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: yeah, by a lot [28-Sep-21 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Yep [28-Sep-21 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: we already shared it around the OIKOS folk, but i think avalon has their own interest as well [28-Sep-21 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: the name that was getting passed around was El Dorado, both to signify the long journey, and as LG-093a has a sizeable gold deposit and makes it pretty unique among the universe [28-Sep-21 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I think I'm (temporarily?) abandoning my plan to settle there [28-Sep-21 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: of course your more common player loves the LST and ALO so much more :) [28-Sep-21 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ah, has a different planet come up, thejeffcooper? [28-Sep-21 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I ran the numbers and realized that if my focus is ALO, I can get a similar amount per EXT from Deimos without the 1% wear / trip on my ships [28-Sep-21 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: plus I wouldn't have to ship in RAT/DW/OVE/etc, since there's a pretty robust population there [28-Sep-21 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ^^ im actually trying to organize some trade from deimos to HRT [28-Sep-21 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ah, well loop me in if you're looking for people/ships [28-Sep-21 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: you would think AI1 would have cheap bfabs due to the PP2+ALO deposits, but thats just not the case. so im getting to the bottom of it and talking to those constructors directly :P [28-Sep-21 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ill jot you down, but its still in talking phases right now [28-Sep-21 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: orrr they could all buy my imported avalonian bfabs and make me rich [28-Sep-21 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: we would be giving them HRT stuff (consumables mostly) and they would give us prefabs [28-Sep-21 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ah [28-Sep-21 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: for whatever reason the strengths of their region arent showing on their cx, so a little more work is needed [28-Sep-21 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Anyone want 3 BBH And 1 BDE Before I take it to the CX? [28-Sep-21 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheSmithAries** deleted this message.* [28-Sep-21 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I also need rations [28-Sep-21 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I just got an invitation to join a corporation? [28-Sep-21 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: [CAPS] bkg? He's been spamming invites, it seems [28-Sep-21 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Yeah [28-Sep-21 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ah, are you still here smithareis? [28-Sep-21 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Yeah [28-Sep-21 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ok, ill buy all of those prefabs [28-Sep-21 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i do have a request, tho. could you make me 2 BTA for 1000ea? thats the price theyve been going for recently, but the market hollowed out [28-Sep-21 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: dangit It's already on its way to the CX [28-Sep-21 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: but I can do the BTA [28-Sep-21 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: XD all good, i tried to catch you before but it was slow [28-Sep-21 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: cool, thanks [28-Sep-21 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I have 4 BDE in stock if you want it [28-Sep-21 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: lord You have any FE? [28-Sep-21 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: A little (9), why? [28-Sep-21 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: could I buy two of them? [28-Sep-21 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Sure [28-Sep-21 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: sure, ill pick up the BDE. im slowly expanding out this base, closing in on 500 area. trying to buy local wherever i can [28-Sep-21 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: @dragonican Do you want me to hang on to the fabs when I get to the CX [28-Sep-21 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I'll have 5 more BDE in 11h, if you want to buy it all [28-Sep-21 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: no, not really. if its already at cx, ill just buy what i can from CX [28-Sep-21 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: let me consult my shopping list, but ill buy w/e fabs i need that i can afford at the time [28-Sep-21 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I can probably bring back your order if you don't have a ship there [28-Sep-21 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i mean, ill definitely buy them if theyre on planet, but dont trouble yourself too much XD [28-Sep-21 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: do you have the ad up lordcirth? the Avalon LM has appeared empty to me for a few hours now, am i bugged out or something? [28-Sep-21 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: For BDE? No, not yet [28-Sep-21 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: It's actually empty [28-Sep-21 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: oh, i got confused by the "up" message [28-Sep-21 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: That was for FE. How much BDE did you want to buy? [28-Sep-21 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: You now at this point I'm considering moving strictly to shipping [28-Sep-21 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: no reason not to do both [28-Sep-21 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: true [28-Sep-21 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 5 BDE? do you have that much [28-Sep-21 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: btw smitharies, your 2 BTA will be the last BTA ill need on Avalon :) [28-Sep-21 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I will tomorrow morning; I have 4 right now [28-Sep-21 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 4 is fine, ill buy them all [28-Sep-21 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: k, up [28-Sep-21 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: im assuming a lot of other Avalonians are nearing 500 area on avalon that joined around when i did, and i hope you all know about the STO. its a building that lots of players put on every finished planet, and it adds capacity to your base. check out BUI STO [28-Sep-21 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I am aware of it. I guess I'll need one before I hit 500, but not yet [28-Sep-21 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: just good to plan around, as itll change your final 500 area puzzle [28-Sep-21 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: now, if someone has 3 BSE i can put up another FP :p [28-Sep-21 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ah, nvm, id need mcg too. [28-Sep-21 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: No BSE on hand. I do have 212 MCG [28-Sep-21 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: is that for sale? [28-Sep-21 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Sure, I have some queued [28-Sep-21 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ill buy 15 just in case the BSE comes around [28-Sep-21 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: what price? [28-Sep-21 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ill do the order [28-Sep-21 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: CXP is 26 [28-Sep-21 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I have MCG [28-Sep-21 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I think I need to build another extractor [28-Sep-21 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ill do 20/unit [28-Sep-21 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: XD [28-Sep-21 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I also have BSE [28-Sep-21 05:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 3 BSE please [28-Sep-21 05:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: sorry lordcirth, hes outbid you [28-Sep-21 05:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: np [28-Sep-21 05:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: how much per BSE? [28-Sep-21 05:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 1000 is fine [28-Sep-21 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: rain is going to keep BSE in HRT low for a while now [28-Sep-21 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: oh? why? [28-Sep-21 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: he listed 185 BSE@ 975 [28-Sep-21 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: wow [28-Sep-21 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: *153 [28-Sep-21 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: That will take a while to clear [28-Sep-21 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: alright! that was FP #15 [28-Sep-21 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i slurped up the last 17 PIO, no more until wednesday [28-Sep-21 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: lol nice [28-Sep-21 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: are you buying inputs:? [28-Sep-21 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yep! full faith in the plan [28-Sep-21 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: DW too or just making rat? [28-Sep-21 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: both [28-Sep-21 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i get semi-regular ship-fuls of H2O from boucher [28-Sep-21 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: thats impressive, i have less FPs despite being in the 3 planet chain lmao [28-Sep-21 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yeah, most players arent going to build beyond their own supply [28-Sep-21 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: im about to establish an HRTriangle that should help 1 and 2 base players in Avalon-Boucher-Prom significantly... just have to do some writing [28-Sep-21 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: nice [28-Sep-21 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Dragon Your BTA Will be ready in 17 hours [28-Sep-21 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: thanks sir [28-Sep-21 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: want to do the contract now? [28-Sep-21 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: id be happy to pay you now, and you can spend the money early [28-Sep-21 06:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: It's okay To do it later [28-Sep-21 06:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ok [28-Sep-21 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: My bid hasn't been registered yet... oh well [28-Sep-21 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: anyone has any RAT they want to sell? [28-Sep-21 08:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yup ^^ [28-Sep-21 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: :) [28-Sep-21 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Do we have any dedicated C suppliers here? [28-Sep-21 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Im thinking about opening a new BMP, but would rather buy the C instead of also building a new Inci. [28-Sep-21 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: theres actually a universal C shortage right now, but you should almost always be able to find cheap C on CX [28-Sep-21 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: hmm [28-Sep-21 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: INC on avalon doesnt make much sense, but there might be someone who makes plain C for export here? [28-Sep-21 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: when I run the numbers, i can make C for about the same price as it goes for in the market [28-Sep-21 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: C is very expensive right now, it was going 260 not a week ago. just be aware that current C markets are temporary [28-Sep-21 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: ok [28-Sep-21 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: id recommend checking the 90d price graphs when considering long term plans like BUI [28-Sep-21 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: there is like 100C on the LM rn [28-Sep-21 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: OH youre right [28-Sep-21 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: from me [28-Sep-21 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: XD i always forget thats there [28-Sep-21 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: lol [28-Sep-21 09:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Assanova: can you pretty much always supply C? [28-Sep-21 09:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: yes i will perma sell at bid price [28-Sep-21 09:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: hmm. [28-Sep-21 09:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Might be looking for a dedicated supplier. [28-Sep-21 09:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: im going to be expanding a fair bit in the next week or so, and id love to be buying from you guys over the market. ill buy up your BBH, BSE, BDE, and MCG up until my construction list is filled [28-Sep-21 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'll cover your BSE needs [28-Sep-21 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I can provides MCG [28-Sep-21 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I can also probably cover you BBH, depending on how many you need [28-Sep-21 09:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 320 MCG [28-Sep-21 09:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 19 BBH [28-Sep-21 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: BSE? [28-Sep-21 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 19 [28-Sep-21 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i can only afford 70% of these amounts right now, and would prefer to buy them ratioed so i can build smoothly. but id reasonably bet in a week from now i can afford it all [28-Sep-21 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I have 480 rn [28-Sep-21 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: MCG [28-Sep-21 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ill buy all the MCG now, its cheap [28-Sep-21 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I've got 15 BSE on HRT and 4x on planet, with more in production [28-Sep-21 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: kk 20/unit [28-Sep-21 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Not sure what the going rate for BSE.IC1 is [28-Sep-21 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: oh right, it's sad :( [28-Sep-21 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ill pay you 1000 ea [28-Sep-21 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: sold [28-Sep-21 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: rain kinda crashed your day, i dont mind paying the 1000 that used to be a steal for me [28-Sep-21 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: haha [28-Sep-21 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: and 1000 isnt much higher than his 975, so i dont mind [28-Sep-21 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: and I ship free :) [28-Sep-21 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ads up [28-Sep-21 09:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yep! after all this is done, ill have officially graduated from avalon academy. bad starter planet my a** [28-Sep-21 09:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: :) [28-Sep-21 09:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: what timeline do you want me to put on the BSE contract? [28-Sep-21 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: since you said you don't have all the cash on hand right now [28-Sep-21 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ill still talk here way too much, im not actually going anywhere [28-Sep-21 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ah, i forgot one piece, 50 more pls kyzekk :D [28-Sep-21 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 8 BSE for the first installment [28-Sep-21 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: kk. Is ~24h okay? I've gotta get them back from HRT [28-Sep-21 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: then 11 for the next one. [28-Sep-21 09:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I can just make a few more if you want them sooner [28-Sep-21 09:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yeah, thats fine, no particular rush, the whole point is to buy them from you guys over market, not for the instant deliver [28-Sep-21 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: first BSE posted [28-Sep-21 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: heh, you got me [28-Sep-21 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: how long should I set the second one for? [28-Sep-21 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: the order is backwards sir [28-Sep-21 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ugh [28-Sep-21 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: every. time. [28-Sep-21 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: id like to wait to click the second order, its predicated on sales that i have little control over [28-Sep-21 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: sounds good [28-Sep-21 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: If you're sure you're going to need them and you're just not sure when, we can make it 20d [28-Sep-21 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: or we can wait [28-Sep-21 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: either way [28-Sep-21 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: and you said how many BBH? [28-Sep-21 09:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 6 for this next group of buildings [28-Sep-21 09:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: can you put up this ad so I don't screw it up? [28-Sep-21 09:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: also, what's your price? BBH.IC1 [28-Sep-21 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: its been hovering at 1500 for a while now, im fine with that [28-Sep-21 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Sounds good to me [28-Sep-21 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I can have those to you by midday tomorrow [28-Sep-21 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: If my math is right [28-Sep-21 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ok. i cant use any of this till wednesday anyways. damn you planetary population mechanic!!! [28-Sep-21 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: building them preemptively will help with pio growth tho... [28-Sep-21 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: tomorrow is Wednesday [28-Sep-21 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: youre very right [28-Sep-21 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: XD [28-Sep-21 09:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: lol [28-Sep-21 09:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I have BBH on hand if you want those too btw [28-Sep-21 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: im good for now, but i might spread the purchasing between you two if so [28-Sep-21 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 4 more BDE, and ill throw up some extra FP to get us more PIOs tomorrow [28-Sep-21 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: alright I have 2 for sale right now and another 4 in a day or so [28-Sep-21 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: That's fine with me. I'll do the first set of BBH since I already grabbed the contract, then kyzekk can take the rest [28-Sep-21 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I also have 10 BDE that will be done in a little less then 2 days [28-Sep-21 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ill need all that BDE, but im also interested in short term BDE to help out the pop report [28-Sep-21 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: sadly I sent my entire last batch to the CX [28-Sep-21 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i think the pop report is firing in close to 6 hours, so theres not really much time left. all good [28-Sep-21 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: kk [28-Sep-21 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I want 3 experts so much [28-Sep-21 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 3 experts is where you start to notice it [28-Sep-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: making more buildings, finding more sources of efficiency, and keeping your BUI active will get you there asap [28-Sep-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I was considering making another extractor [28-Sep-21 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Or will that not count as manufacturing [28-Sep-21 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: thats resource extraction [28-Sep-21 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: crap [28-Sep-21 11:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: BMP Is the only manufacturing building for pioneers [28-Sep-21 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yes, but its got so many recipes, surely you can play around? [28-Sep-21 11:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: PT looks decent [28-Sep-21 11:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: Yep! BMP has several awesome recipes, but you cant really spam any of them, as the products are lowish volume compared to what the BMP can pump out [28-Sep-21 11:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: id say its the most difficult starter building, but the most awesome [28-Sep-21 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: id recommend doing the OVE, PWO, REP, PT, and EXO recipes from time to time. do PE if youve already saturated yourself with the other goods [28-Sep-21 11:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: MCG is also worth while, you can make SUN and OFF but only for auctions, and STR has a fair MM for it [28-Sep-21 11:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: soooo many options, lots of thinking required on your part [28-Sep-21 11:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Another BMP would be nice [28-Sep-21 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: but I kind of don't Know what to do about My extractor [28-Sep-21 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i mean, you can just leave it there [28-Sep-21 11:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: you could also tear it down and do something else with the materials [28-Sep-21 11:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: that's what I was thinking [28-Sep-21 11:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: youll probably get, 9 BSE back? at least, its 8 [28-Sep-21 11:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: OH! nvm, wrong building, youll get like 15 or 14 back [28-Sep-21 11:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: At this point it's acting more like a leech [28-Sep-21 11:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: your call, though i can help explain either side to you [28-Sep-21 11:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I need 4 BBH and 2 BDE [28-Sep-21 11:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: if you already have the money, theres people with those things on planet [28-Sep-21 11:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: also, you could buy them on cx and i can ship them back for you soon [29-Sep-21 12:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Already have a ship there [29-Sep-21 12:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: mmk, sounds like youre close to that building [29-Sep-21 12:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: If anybody needs a shipment from HRT to Avalon I will wait 10 minutes [29-Sep-21 12:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: how much space? [29-Sep-21 12:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: About 493 [29-Sep-21 12:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: can you give me 5 browsing minutes? [29-Sep-21 12:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: yeah [29-Sep-21 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: alright, 1 package coming up, the ad will be on Avalon LM [29-Sep-21 12:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: and posted [29-Sep-21 12:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: thanks ^^ [29-Sep-21 12:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Do you have a specific time? [29-Sep-21 12:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: no? as long as it gets to my base eventually i dont mind too much [29-Sep-21 12:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: k [29-Sep-21 12:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: 13h [29-Sep-21 12:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: cool [29-Sep-21 12:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: going to plug it again, please vote for LG-093a, our local ALO-LST hub, to receive a planet name everyone :D [29-Sep-21 12:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/name-that-planet-round-4/3759/10 {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/name-that-planet-round-4/3759/10 Name THAT Planet Round 4 Ok seems like we’ve got some good suggestions going. Let the voting begin! First vote on which planet will receive a name: poll https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/x0Lcv9Tc0WstLZAut1pc9Cply1Z-ZpDJ_X3qJLQ4S_k/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/1X/9637dadda95e302d05ebee320ec8473189637a64.jpg [29-Sep-21 12:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***itsnick** joined.* [29-Sep-21 01:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: what would you call it? [29-Sep-21 01:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: el dorado [29-Sep-21 05:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: buying OVE [29-Sep-21 05:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: El Dorado is just one suggestion at the moment, if it wins this vote it will get a second vote to get it a name :) [29-Sep-21 06:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: it's a shame moria is taken :) [29-Sep-21 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: ha true =D [29-Sep-21 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: alright, my opinion on the latest pop report... we are short pioneers, but i think its mostly due to the growth rates of our existing players. players around my age could be finishing up their bases, so theyre at the tippity top of that exponential growth off of 1 base, while a few many-base players are coming to avalon and building 500 area overnight (im looking at you, TheEnvoy) [29-Sep-21 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: we are still doing great in terms of pop growth, we are just outpacing that growth for this timeframe. +2606 PIO, but they all get eaten near immediately. however, i can also tell you that if we had 90% or more safety, we wouldve had 90% happiness and 5996 net pios instead of that number ^^ [29-Sep-21 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: wow, I'm at 300/305 PIOs. First time I've ever been short [29-Sep-21 08:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: nbd though. let's get that safety station done! [29-Sep-21 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i think SST might be a big bandaid for a little cut. we dont actually need safety, from my estimations, but who knows. if Avalon takes off like a rocket after COGC and more big players move here, we need SST [29-Sep-21 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: safety is just the bottle neck on our migration [29-Sep-21 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i dont know why you wouldnt be full on PIO, we werent *that* short? [29-Sep-21 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: theres 119 PIO in the reserve pool right now, and i kept all 1000 of mine [29-Sep-21 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Oh, nvrm, I was short before - I didn't bother building a hab for the last 5 [29-Sep-21 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Unemployment is 0%, though, but there's reserve still [29-Sep-21 08:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Oh, I forgot to buy TRU. Anyone got some to sell on the LM? [29-Sep-21 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: im almost certain there is, but we will see if they respond to you or not [29-Sep-21 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: alright, asking around again, trying to buy local. any BDE on planet? will buy up to 6 [29-Sep-21 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I got that 5 now [29-Sep-21 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ill take it [29-Sep-21 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 1 BDE anyone? XD [29-Sep-21 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: can you set up the LM ad soon? ill have to go soon [29-Sep-21 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: yup, sorry [29-Sep-21 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: up [29-Sep-21 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: thx [29-Sep-21 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: still looking for 1 BDE :) [29-Sep-21 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: wait a second, i forgot we were 20 BBH away from finishing the SST XD thats a lot more realistic than rushing to build the whole thing [29-Sep-21 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: Anyone have 20 Dw and rat for sale? [29-Sep-21 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: /sigh... just bought enough materials to build another HB1, only to then realize that I already have enough capacity for the expansion I wanted [29-Sep-21 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: oh well. I guess I'll put it in the "second base" pile [29-Sep-21 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: got some tiny shipping for HRT -> avalon up [29-Sep-21 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: got it. have a ship coming home tonight anyways, happy to grab them [29-Sep-21 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: great! [29-Sep-21 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: My ship left a day ago and I forgot some stuff D [29-Sep-21 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: XD* [29-Sep-21 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I know that feeling [29-Sep-21 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: btw I'm travelling today, I'll do up the procurements at night (or maybe tomorrow oops) [29-Sep-21 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Ok, good to know! Will there be a new procurement for CoGC consumables and/or SST parts? [29-Sep-21 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: So I just updated my spreadsheet with the latest prices, and bfabs and lfabs aren't looking good... [29-Sep-21 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Anyone want PWO? [29-Sep-21 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: More shipping ads up [29-Sep-21 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: We are loosing the vote, if you haven't voted yet, and would like to give the ALO/LST planet LG-093a a name, here is your chance =D [29-Sep-21 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/name-that-planet-round-4/3759/9 {Embed} https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/name-that-planet-round-4/3759/9 Name THAT Planet Round 4 I’d like to propose the name Danakil for OT-442b; it’s a region in Ethiopia with sulfur hot springs, and given that OT-442b has both SCR and H20 I think it would be fitting https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/x0Lcv9Tc0WstLZAut1pc9Cply1Z-ZpDJ_X3qJLQ4S_k/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/1X/9637dadda95e302d05ebee320ec8473189637a64.jpg [29-Sep-21 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: im going to buy the 20 BBH and throw it in myself if we dont get it prepared by next pop report ^^ though i would like to be payed back those 20 BBH later, if that works out [29-Sep-21 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: @yesplease could i get a loose sign of confidence on a move like above? [29-Sep-21 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: If so, I can be your BBH supplier. Going to have to spin up some more SMEs, but I was planning to do that anyways [29-Sep-21 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Hmm, hard competition with a starter planet [29-Sep-21 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: the 20 BBH is due next wednesday [29-Sep-21 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: our opponent is strong, but we are only 1 vote behind them :muscle: [29-Sep-21 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i dont really mind who contributes the BBH etc, where they come from, its just a big failure on our part if the SST lags another week behind [29-Sep-21 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: We'd need someone to make SUN as well, right? [29-Sep-21 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: nope! [29-Sep-21 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: the SST can work in 3rds, so each good gives us a third of its effect [29-Sep-21 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: the amount of safety we need isnt that significant, so we are probably good just feeding it DW to start [29-Sep-21 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: if we need more safety, we give if OFF, and then SUN is last [29-Sep-21 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Ah, I see [29-Sep-21 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ill do the math properly once it gets thrown up, but we actually know how much safety an SST provides and how much we need [29-Sep-21 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: SST gives 2500, so SST with just DW gives 833 safety [29-Sep-21 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **HumAnt**: when the SUN is necessary, I can produce it [29-Sep-21 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: im sure itll come down to auction ^^ theres many people wanting to make SUN, its pretty lucrative :P [29-Sep-21 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **HumAnt**: depends on price.... :-P [29-Sep-21 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: sure; *most* planetary auctions ive seen pay way too much for SUN [29-Sep-21 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anyone else have shipping they need from HRT? [29-Sep-21 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: so, our population from the pop report consumes 9065.75 safety. im going to assume we had 265 open plots at time of pop report for next step [29-Sep-21 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: leaving soon, hoping to arrive tonight [29-Sep-21 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I can in principle make 7 BBH/day if both my plants loop it [29-Sep-21 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: id be happy to buy them and front the small cost of getting the SST running until the auction processes [29-Sep-21 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I can make ~14.5 BBH / day, but I don't have the AL on hand and my SMEs can't smelt my ALO fast enough to keep up with that pace [29-Sep-21 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: it makes no difference whether you finish tomorrow or next tuesday. just, sometime before wednesday [29-Sep-21 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I'm almost out of AL, but I have some on my ship and some on jeff's [29-Sep-21 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I re-ran the numbers and if I do my planned expansion when my ship arrives and then buy some COF for my workers, I can pump out 15 BBH/day [29-Sep-21 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: *16 [29-Sep-21 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I don't have the cash for COF, though [29-Sep-21 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Nice. I'm expanding into a WPL next [29-Sep-21 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ooh [29-Sep-21 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: so you could make NL? [29-Sep-21 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: COT and NL, yeah [29-Sep-21 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Both of which I use [29-Sep-21 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Instead of buying my usual 10 RCO, 10 COT, I bought 20 RCO this time :) [29-Sep-21 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Don't know if I will - a PP2 making LDE 50% of the time will keep up with 100% of a WPL [29-Sep-21 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ah, good to know [29-Sep-21 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: WPL and BMP making PWO ratio 1:1, very pleasant [29-Sep-21 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Yeah^ [29-Sep-21 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: last call for shipping HRT -> avalon, 400t / 350 m^3 available [29-Sep-21 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: wait other way around [29-Sep-21 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I split 50/50 COT/NL, then I'd be feeding 1 BMP and 25% of a PP2, which is fine because there are 4 lfabs [29-Sep-21 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: 400m^3 / 350t [29-Sep-21 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: oh, ive got stuff for that direction then [29-Sep-21 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: awesome. toss it up :) [29-Sep-21 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: lol, I also thought you meant the other direction [29-Sep-21 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: But you meant t/m^3 [29-Sep-21 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: >.< [29-Sep-21 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: words are hard [29-Sep-21 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Anybody want PWO? [29-Sep-21 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I do have a ship sitting idle and unfueled on avalon. If there's enough cargo to pay for the trip (and if someone can supply SF), I'm happy to send it [29-Sep-21 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: dont posting [29-Sep-21 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: *done [29-Sep-21 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: XD [29-Sep-21 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: can you supply the SF? [29-Sep-21 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: my tank is literally empty :| [29-Sep-21 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: Jeff, you still on HCX? [29-Sep-21 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: yep [29-Sep-21 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I can put up an order for you to bring to Avalon [29-Sep-21 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: cool. avalon LM or hrt? [29-Sep-21 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: looks like desan has set the SF price in HRT to be 8.6. how much do you need? [29-Sep-21 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: my ship will arrive at avalon in 1d, and probably turn around immediately with some of yesplease's bulk shipping [29-Sep-21 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: from the CX to Avalon. It's 149t, I believe [29-Sep-21 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: and I have stupid amounts of fuel on Avalon, if you need any ;) [29-Sep-21 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ideally 250u, which is enough for an express round trip both ways if I need it [29-Sep-21 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: let me throw up the shipping ad. Will be on the Avalon LM [29-Sep-21 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: SG [29-Sep-21 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: My scheduling is starting to become non-trivial [29-Sep-21 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I sized all my BMP orders to be as close to 12h as possible, so they wouldn't get rearranged by 2 BMPs in parallel. Does that make sense? [29-Sep-21 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: posted [29-Sep-21 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: got it [29-Sep-21 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Eh, makes it easier to reason about anyway [29-Sep-21 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: thanks, saves me a trip [29-Sep-21 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: sure thing! [29-Sep-21 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: my ships are burning hot, usually. No time for those leisurely trips! [29-Sep-21 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I go quite slow, currently. As I start carrying more capital per trip, I will probably speed up. Feels wasteful though. [29-Sep-21 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i realized i could go twice as fast for about .02% of my daily profit lost, and i opted in. after you get your base going, skimping on fuel is pretty similar to refusing to sell to a big 1 or 2 ica below you, pretty inconsequential in the scope of things [29-Sep-21 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: but its also nowhere near needed, i just like ships going faster [29-Sep-21 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I try to keep in mind that in PrUn, there are no finite resources :) [29-Sep-21 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Well, no finite materials* [29-Sep-21 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: desan makes SF and FF here on avalon so i dont have to worry about fuel as much, ive been lax about it ^^ [29-Sep-21 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: okay, now that my computer has recovered, I can actually send this ship :P [29-Sep-21 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ok, short interlude as i worked through some more POPI math with piboy, BUT [29-Sep-21 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: we are consuming 9065.75 safety, and providing 7750. an SST with just DW will give us 833.3 more safety, bringing us above 90% safety satisfaction, doubling our migration. i think this is worth the small costs, and will make it more feasible for large players to quickly throw down bases on Avalon [29-Sep-21 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: How much DW? [29-Sep-21 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: sounds good to me. I can certainly loan BBH to avalon [29-Sep-21 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: BUI SST says nothing about upkeep costs, and I can't find it online? [29-Sep-21 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Where are these equations documented? [29-Sep-21 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: the equations are documented on some wiki, but i mostly use this https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WUseI_GzjReLFQ-EWDh-yitlTiDrT36T/view {Embed} https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WUseI_GzjReLFQ-EWDh-yitlTiDrT36T/view POPI_Rules.pdf https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CT51YG7RcT9RXLaAMMURyE3ROGtOXhMFlGUs1Rl6ITY/https/lh5.googleusercontent.com/i63T52uvVO3dR6EY2MUuZsuYV4liAcgUf8W2RgCgc9r1r-MLxIP64rTbZ2iPPkuBj_M%3Dw1200-h630-p [29-Sep-21 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ill find the wiki for you too [29-Sep-21 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Thanks! [29-Sep-21 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: recent discovery though, not documented, [29-Sep-21 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: bases now provide 50 health and safety instead of 75 [29-Sep-21 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: https://pct.fnar.net/population-infrastructure/ this is the wiki that contains all of the community's "discovered" knowledge {Embed} https://pct.fnar.net/population-infrastructure/ Population Infrastructure - PrUn Community Derived Information Community derived data & formulas from the game Prosperous Universe [29-Sep-21 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I have your BTA Dragon [29-Sep-21 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: cool! [29-Sep-21 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: setup the buy? 2@1000ea? [29-Sep-21 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: K [29-Sep-21 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Ad is up [29-Sep-21 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: thanks ^^ [29-Sep-21 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Your shipment will be here in 35 minutes [29-Sep-21 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: nice [29-Sep-21 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: So, what does it take to get technicians? Does someone have to build a set/tech hybrid building to make some jobs and get unemployment from 100% to 0%? [29-Sep-21 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yep, thats it ^^ [29-Sep-21 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: *in theory* [29-Sep-21 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: you need their happiness to be above 70 to get them to migrate, and i think if theres open job theyll begin to educate as well [29-Sep-21 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Seems like CLR and shipbuilding are the only ones with more than 50% settlers [29-Sep-21 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: most people who try to develop TEC practically ignore the profit in the mean time, from my experience [29-Sep-21 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i think LAB is the "standard" for this purpose [29-Sep-21 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Why a lab? Just lots of jobs? [29-Sep-21 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: CLR has no reliable products right now [29-Sep-21 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: same can be said for ship building [29-Sep-21 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: and yes, it only costs lfabs but makes 70 tech jobs [29-Sep-21 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Ah, I guess there is a (small) market for DDT as well [29-Sep-21 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: DDT and THF are both fairly useful. big emphasis on DDT for prom [29-Sep-21 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: desan could speak towards how well LABs work in HRT, he has a handful [29-Sep-21 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Can I not have two separate BMP ques? [29-Sep-21 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: No, there's one queue, each building pops the first queued item when it's free [29-Sep-21 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: you can make different things in the same queue though [29-Sep-21 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: But not at the same time? [29-Sep-21 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Each BMP grabs a different order from the queue. Right now, one of mine is making OVE and one PE [29-Sep-21 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: like this https://i.imgur.com/empq3oB.png {Embed} https://imgur.com/empq3oB https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/kyoKF35ChDhClpm4wAVJtV60GdZ5bDdq1OS8b1lkvAo/https/i.imgur.com/empq3oB.png [29-Sep-21 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: o_O yeah, like that XD [29-Sep-21 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: lol, only 8 FP? [29-Sep-21 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: You must get a lot of notifications [29-Sep-21 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: thats not on avalon, I have 13 FP here [29-Sep-21 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: and yes [29-Sep-21 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: i do T>T [29-Sep-21 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: notifications bug out at some point, they dont all fire [29-Sep-21 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: >has 20 FP running 3 hour recipes on average [29-Sep-21 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: when you have them all synced together like this you only get 1 notifiation [29-Sep-21 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: i have assumed that is on purpose [29-Sep-21 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: unless you have the notification window open, then you get all of them [29-Sep-21 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Anybody have 1 STL? [29-Sep-21 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: nobody will just *have* STL, its a small volume good. you might be able to get someone to make STL for you? [29-Sep-21 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Does anybody have a problem with me taking all the shipping contracts? [29-Sep-21 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: no, as long as you deliver them all on time [29-Sep-21 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: nope as long as you can get them done on time [29-Sep-21 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: lol [29-Sep-21 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: 2 Full ships on their way to HRT [29-Sep-21 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: anyone want any MCG? [29-Sep-21 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: oof, you took all of yespleases rocks, my package is still left XD [29-Sep-21 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: luck of the draw [29-Sep-21 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yeah same lol [29-Sep-21 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Don't worry I will get them on the second trip [29-Sep-21 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: OVE & PWO up on the LM. If they get bought quick I'll post more; or if someone wants a bigger order let me know [29-Sep-21 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I don't need supplies for a while now [29-Sep-21 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: uhoh Not sure if I have on the fuel to get to the station [29-Sep-21 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: enoughh* [29-Sep-21 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i can pass some fuel along [29-Sep-21 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: In transit? [29-Sep-21 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Does it let you submit a flight plan you can't do? I don't think so [29-Sep-21 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: oh, yeah, if the ship took off, you can make it the whole way [29-Sep-21 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Then I should be fine [29-Sep-21 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Any MAI suppliers here? [29-Sep-21 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: its near impossible to make MAI on avalon, i dont know if anyone is running HYF for MAI here [29-Sep-21 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Wow steel is woorth more than power tools [29-Sep-21 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: 1k -> 5 * 420 [29-Sep-21 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I mean per unit [29-Sep-21 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Still worth it though [29-Sep-21 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Well yeah. If the cost was even, everybody would make PT until it wasn't [29-Sep-21 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: (Subject to demand limits) [29-Sep-21 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I still want to settle VH-331c [29-Sep-21 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Or prom [29-Sep-21 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Why does my pioneers required fluctuate [29-Sep-21 06:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: It shouldn't. Do you mean the number in parentheses? That's not the required number, that's reserve [29-Sep-21 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: Huh, that's an odd planet [29-Sep-21 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: And someone's already there :o [29-Sep-21 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: or, someone was there, it looks like the pio's are dying off lol [29-Sep-21 06:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: still someone there [29-Sep-21 06:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: landed 16 days ago [29-Sep-21 06:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: interesting, they must only be running like 2 or 3 buildings [29-Sep-21 06:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: yeah 15% [29-Sep-21 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: wow best system in the universe we got 5 planets colonized [29-Sep-21 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: anyone going Prom>>Avalon soon? [29-Sep-21 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: im going soon [29-Sep-21 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: going in 2 hours arriving within 5-7 hours after takeoff [29-Sep-21 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: i should have 100t/m [29-Sep-21 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ooh, desan gets lucky! [29-Sep-21 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: is assanova going to be the one to carry the final torch for avalon? prestigious! [29-Sep-21 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: Not the final pieces, but the expensive one =D [29-Sep-21 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ^^ [29-Sep-21 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: What piece is that? [29-Sep-21 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: the electronic parts of the COGC [29-Sep-21 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Ah, I didn't realize it needed those [29-Sep-21 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Looks expensive all right [29-Sep-21 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: PPS VH-331g will get you to see it, for anyone who hasnt [29-Sep-21 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: Oh my i didnt know i had the honor to carry such a package [29-Sep-21 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: Dragonican, spilling the beans, opening me up for piracy... ^^ [29-Sep-21 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: dw Desan im upping security theres no way any pirates are boarding my ship [29-Sep-21 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: haha but what if you are the pirate =D [29-Sep-21 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: 😳 [29-Sep-21 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: No I did a background check, triple A rating, I have full confidence in you ^_^ [29-Sep-21 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Looks like bids aren't being processed until tomorrow. Hopefully I won at least one, I need to buy so much AL [29-Sep-21 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: same [29-Sep-21 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Hopefully selling a shipload of ALO on the CX helped drop AL prices; It didn't make me a lot of profit [29-Sep-21 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: do you have any left on planet to sell? [29-Sep-21 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Nope, I pre-sold some on the LM and dumped the rest on the CX last week. I might do another run if the price goes back up, though [29-Sep-21 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: gotcha [29-Sep-21 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I knew the profit would be low, but I was hoping to benefit from a drop in AL prices. Which did happen, but I can't claim causality because who knows [29-Sep-21 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: wahoo! my bse order arrived, now ill use up all the PIO i was allotted this week [29-Sep-21 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: need any BBH? [29-Sep-21 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: your BTA will be here in ~45m [29-Sep-21 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: im gated by BDE more than anything, i think [29-Sep-21 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I actually bought some that I'm probably not going to use after all [29-Sep-21 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: how many do you need? [29-Sep-21 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i can use 1 right now, and then ill need to do math [29-Sep-21 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I'll have 10 done in 26 hours [29-Sep-21 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I've got 10 on my ship that's arriving in 45m [29-Sep-21 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: cool! our pio situation isnt that bad, but it does mean i cant finish my base till next report [29-Sep-21 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'm happy to sell you the one you need if you put up a contract [29-Sep-21 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Greetings! [29-Sep-21 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I don't know what BDE.IC1 typically sell for [29-Sep-21 09:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: is there a way to search the chat? [29-Sep-21 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: can i get them for 1200? they sorta just spiked [29-Sep-21 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: can you do 1230? that's what I paid [29-Sep-21 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: well 1229.90 if you want to be precise [29-Sep-21 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: XD sure [29-Sep-21 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: im a little bit short on being able to buy everything i could build this week, but if youre willing to buy a little DW/RAT/OVE/PWO ill be there. either way, i need 5 BDE [29-Sep-21 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: oh dragon can I trade 5 BDE for the equivaling in RAT and DW? [29-Sep-21 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'd also be interested in a deal like that, but I'm okay on RAT and DW for a while [29-Sep-21 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: so kyzekk can have this one :) [29-Sep-21 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ("a while" = "a few days," but still) [29-Sep-21 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ok, i accept, kyzekk [29-Sep-21 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Anyone here has H to sell? [29-Sep-21 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: k are alright with waiting a day? [29-Sep-21 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: are you* [29-Sep-21 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yeah, thats fine [29-Sep-21 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: are you fine with valuing the BDE at 1200ea? and then ill do the math for how much RAT/DW that gets you [29-Sep-21 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yeah [29-Sep-21 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: thats good for me [29-Sep-21 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: and ill also assume you want half RAT half DW [29-Sep-21 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Ugh. First trip to the CX in a while for silly H. [29-Sep-21 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yeah what are your prices? [29-Sep-21 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: RAT@51, DW@41, friend prices [29-Sep-21 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: setup two buy orders, each for 1 total, buying 65RAT and 65DW [29-Sep-21 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: that will get me 58 RAT and 73 DW [29-Sep-21 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: for 5 BDE [29-Sep-21 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ok, if thats the amounts you want, sure [29-Sep-21 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yup [29-Sep-21 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: nice, enjoy! [29-Sep-21 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: thank you thank you [29-Sep-21 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I will have another 5 for sail but for ICA [29-Sep-21 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: sale* [29-Sep-21 10:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: wont need them until next wednesday [29-Sep-21 10:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I'll have 5 BDE tomorrow, but after that I'm pivoting to BTA, prices are weird right now [29-Sep-21 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: lol same [29-Sep-21 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Gnite all. [29-Sep-21 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: gn! [29-Sep-21 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Thanks jeff! [29-Sep-21 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: :) [29-Sep-21 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Tomorrow I should be able to build a WPL! [29-Sep-21 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: wahoo [29-Sep-21 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: yaay [29-Sep-21 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I've got to find some ALO in the next ~2d. I'll probably just buy from the CX [29-Sep-21 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: If you buy ~100, the price might go up enough for me to risk dispatching a ship [29-Sep-21 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Anybody want 400 FF? [29-Sep-21 11:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: how much for ff [29-Sep-21 11:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: 8 [29-Sep-21 11:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: sure ill take it [29-Sep-21 11:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: ty [30-Sep-21 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rubicate** joined.* [30-Sep-21 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rubicate**: Greetings Avalon [30-Sep-21 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: Welcome ! [30-Sep-21 06:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: \o/ welcome [30-Sep-21 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vincent-1**: How much for 4 bse? [30-Sep-21 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Welcome, @Rubicate! [30-Sep-21 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: @Vincent-1 - do you have pro? If not, to have to buy at the CX (BSE.IC1) [30-Sep-21 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: lol, now somebody destroyed the BTA market? Who is selling it at 50% of cost? [30-Sep-21 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Oof. Glad mine sold before that happened [30-Sep-21 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Just hoping my ship full of BSE gets to the CX before that one crashes [30-Sep-21 08:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I should probably make a bit of everything, so I can afford to wait for rebound [30-Sep-21 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: welcome rubi ^^ [30-Sep-21 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: going avalon > HRT soon, you have like 3 hours to post [30-Sep-21 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: How fast you going? [30-Sep-21 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 8-10hr trip [30-Sep-21 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: zoomin [30-Sep-21 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: In that case, yeah, I'll hitch a ride [30-Sep-21 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Dragon, you still want more prefabs? [30-Sep-21 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **sdlouisee**: Flying back from HRT soon and still have room for 400t/450m3. Unfortunately I am still pending so I can't take the A contracts that are there [30-Sep-21 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I would post 150t of FE, but I'm so short on cash that I'll do without XD [30-Sep-21 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i need to take a little cool down with prefabs and built buffers back up, i think [30-Sep-21 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: @sdlouisee consider PMing those people and asking if they can repost at P rating [30-Sep-21 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: most people just put high ratings as a shield against noobs messing up or whatnot [30-Sep-21 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: if you reach out and ask, youve probably already hit their skill/trust requirements [30-Sep-21 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **sdlouisee**: Thanks for the tip I will try that # [30-Sep-21 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: someone asked a few days ago but i have my answer now, the SST would consume 50 DW every 3 days, or 16.6 DW per day, which should cost no more than 664 ICA a day [30-Sep-21 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: running the SST at 1/3 power [30-Sep-21 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: last call, heading to HRT, lots of space open, fast burn [30-Sep-21 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Oh I've got some for you [30-Sep-21 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: What's your rate? [30-Sep-21 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 4/t minimum 100ICA [30-Sep-21 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: So you charge 25 ICA per ton? [30-Sep-21 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: if its more than 200t/m tell me first [30-Sep-21 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: nope, tiny package. prefabs are light :) [30-Sep-21 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 4ICA/t, or 100 ICA [30-Sep-21 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: whichever is higher [30-Sep-21 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: posted [30-Sep-21 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: when will it provision? [30-Sep-21 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ...I posted the wrong amount. let me post the right one [30-Sep-21 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: kk, ignoring that one [30-Sep-21 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: posted [30-Sep-21 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: "use your sick day to play video games," he said, "your brain is working fine," he said [30-Sep-21 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: maybe I should switch from PrUn to pong :( [30-Sep-21 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Or Tetris [30-Sep-21 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rubicate**: Alright goodbye people [30-Sep-21 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Anybody want a BDE? [30-Sep-21 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yes [30-Sep-21 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ill take 1 [30-Sep-21 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: ty [30-Sep-21 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: thanks [30-Sep-21 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheSmithAries** deleted this message.* [30-Sep-21 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: When I get back I am going to sell 300 FF If anyone wants it [30-Sep-21 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: how much? [30-Sep-21 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Just built my WPL! Got 62 of the 70 settlers I needed; remind me, when can I get the rest? 24hr, or POPR? [30-Sep-21 02:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: 9.99 each [30-Sep-21 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: POPR [30-Sep-21 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Thanks [30-Sep-21 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Another reason to boost settler pop [30-Sep-21 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i think we have plenty of settler pop, you just got scamazed [30-Sep-21 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: You think reserve % should be increased? [30-Sep-21 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: im going to do some math to make sure i understand the formulas as they are, and then speak [30-Sep-21 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: how many SET were you allowed to draw this week? [30-Sep-21 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ok, so it seems right now that each player is allowed to take at most 10% of all the excess of a pop type per week. i think it would be reasonable to raise that to something like 15% or 20%, but i dont know if we could change that [30-Sep-21 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Can anyone use these 8 BSE and 44 MCG? [30-Sep-21 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: BSE yes [30-Sep-21 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: give me a bit though [30-Sep-21 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: k just let me know [30-Sep-21 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: sorry smith aries^^ [30-Sep-21 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: got super distracted [30-Sep-21 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: let me buy them all now [30-Sep-21 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Are you ready or do you want me to wait? [30-Sep-21 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ready [30-Sep-21 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: woah, you typoed [30-Sep-21 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: might wanna delete that ad [30-Sep-21 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I will be back in one hour [30-Sep-21 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: this ones not right either [30-Sep-21 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: wait [30-Sep-21 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: youre scamming yourself XD [30-Sep-21 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: it was supposed to be 11,200 [30-Sep-21 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: its 11 [30-Sep-21 06:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: oh well, ill get my BSE later, i hope none of you accept the typo'd LM [30-Sep-21 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: hello yesplease, ive got a few questions [30-Sep-21 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: if youre around to answer ^^ [30-Sep-21 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ill just write them out anyways; can we raise the taxes now, as to not miss a cycle? and, can i throw 20 BBH into the SST to make sure it gets online asap, and the govt can owe me that 20 BBH? [30-Sep-21 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: *raise the taxes to 40 ICA per industry as we discussed, and there were no objectors [30-Sep-21 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Okay am bac let's try this again [30-Sep-21 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: im here [30-Sep-21 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Is 11,200 Too much? [30-Sep-21 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: for 8, right? [30-Sep-21 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: ye [30-Sep-21 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: give me 11000 and ill call it a deal :) [30-Sep-21 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: k [30-Sep-21 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: you did the same typo! [30-Sep-21 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: That's not right I typed in 11,000 [30-Sep-21 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: are you using . as a comma? [30-Sep-21 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: just type in 11000 [30-Sep-21 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: That's what strange I did [30-Sep-21 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: now this is a mystery... [30-Sep-21 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: There we go [30-Sep-21 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: wahoo! [30-Sep-21 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: They for the commerce thing? [30-Sep-21 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: no, theyre for me [30-Sep-21 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: the COGC takes lfabs [30-Sep-21 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Regardless I am nearly to 18 K [30-Sep-21 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: thats great [30-Sep-21 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: A lot of that was from the BDE sales [30-Sep-21 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I went from 2-300 ICA Directly to 12k just from selling five of them [30-Sep-21 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: very nic [30-Sep-21 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: e [30-Sep-21 07:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: For now it's fantastic until the bottom drops out [30-Sep-21 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Do you Specialize in anything Dragon? [30-Sep-21 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yes! im doing food industries right now, i run 17 FP and plan to get up to 20 [30-Sep-21 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: loooots of RAT and DW [30-Sep-21 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I know where to get food now [30-Sep-21 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i sell very cheap too ^^ [30-Sep-21 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: You get the Water on prom? [30-Sep-21 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: boucher [30-Sep-21 07:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Probably expensive on prom due to all the farms? [30-Sep-21 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: well, boucher has a much better water deposit and a COGC that helps with water extraction, as well as players that specialize in extracting water, so the waters very cheap! [30-Sep-21 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: which is why my DW is cheap [30-Sep-21 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Pretty good deal [30-Sep-21 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i try to give good deals while still making money [30-Sep-21 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i hope youll do the same for me ^^ [30-Sep-21 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I will try [30-Sep-21 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i dont expect much out of new players, its fine to fend for yourself, but if TheSmithAries ever beomes the richest player in the galaxy i hope youll throw me some bread crumbs [30-Sep-21 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I'll give you guys more than breadcrumbs [30-Sep-21 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: oh boy, can i have the whole last slice of bread? XD [30-Sep-21 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: How about the loaf [30-Sep-21 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Anyway I don't think I will be there for a few years :) [30-Sep-21 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: me neither! but its worth dreaming [30-Sep-21 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: It's good to have goals [30-Sep-21 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: im going to drive RAT and DW below the MM >:D [30-Sep-21 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: CoGC electronics have been submitted [30-Sep-21 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: woo! so close [30-Sep-21 08:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: Hello all! [30-Sep-21 08:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UuAA1XMuxFqgAX2HfYzlqp80S2lO3ufu-wV2jUzTujA/edit#gid=82951646 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UuAA1XMuxFqgAX2HfYzlqp80S2lO3ufu-wV2jUzTujA/edit Kingdom Of Avalon Wealth Administration Governance Sheet Dashboard designed by yesplease GOVERNMENT OF AVALON ,CHANGELOG Link: https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Jq4LLH1phl2JLrXhseQTBmVfPnnEoU_xHWF5ndzidas/https/lh4.googleusercontent.com/FgPi73TgGSRC3kwWZK69F_nA9-Gvislu4vjAlwWLPGClmqd93LHT1QymRSQkD8qbS4BmHrcVC36t3w%3Dw1200-h630-p [30-Sep-21 08:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: I'm very happy to announce that bidding for our CoGC is completed, and our winners are getting the L-fabs to me as we speak [30-Sep-21 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: I'll gather these L-fabs on Avalon as soon as I can, it depends on when I get them from the Benten region suppliers but I regularly ship Benten <-> Hortus, so the travel time shouldn't be too much of a delay [30-Sep-21 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: anyhow [30-Sep-21 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i had two questions! [30-Sep-21 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: while youre here [30-Sep-21 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: If you click on the link above, you'll notice two procurements - 1 for the SST and 1 for the CoGC upkeep [30-Sep-21 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: yes! ask away [30-Sep-21 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: can we raise the taxes now, as to not miss a cycle? and, can i throw 20 BBH into the SST to make sure it gets online asap, and the govt can owe me that 20 BBH? 09/30 07:05 PM [IKO] Dragonican *raise the taxes to 40 ICA per industry as we discussed, and there were no objectors [30-Sep-21 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: copypasted from earlier, sorry for formatting [30-Sep-21 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: yes, throw in the BBH [30-Sep-21 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: kk [30-Sep-21 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: I'll throw in some DW as well [30-Sep-21 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: just wanted the go ahead, im not ready to donate 30k off 1 base [30-Sep-21 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: just loan it [30-Sep-21 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ^^ [30-Sep-21 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: precisely, it'll work the same way the WAR happened [30-Sep-21 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: anyways on taxation [30-Sep-21 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: I'd refrain from raising it this cycle, just so that we can see the change in the effect better next cycle [30-Sep-21 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: effect of? [30-Sep-21 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: the tax raise [30-Sep-21 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ah, sure [30-Sep-21 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: like, so we can better gauge how much revenue there is [30-Sep-21 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: yeah [30-Sep-21 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: also for people to object, but everyone seems on board [30-Sep-21 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: anyways just to repeat [30-Sep-21 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: We are taking bids for the following items: BBH, DW, MCG, PE, RAT! [30-Sep-21 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UuAA1XMuxFqgAX2HfYzlqp80S2lO3ufu-wV2jUzTujA/edit#gid=82951646 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UuAA1XMuxFqgAX2HfYzlqp80S2lO3ufu-wV2jUzTujA/edit Kingdom Of Avalon Wealth Administration Governance Sheet Dashboard designed by yesplease GOVERNMENT OF AVALON ,CHANGELOG Link: https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Jq4LLH1phl2JLrXhseQTBmVfPnnEoU_xHWF5ndzidas/https/lh4.googleusercontent.com/FgPi73TgGSRC3kwWZK69F_nA9-Gvislu4vjAlwWLPGClmqd93LHT1QymRSQkD8qbS4BmHrcVC36t3w%3Dw1200-h630-p [30-Sep-21 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: I know many of you make these things [30-Sep-21 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: so hopefully this auction will be more accessible for the rest of Avalon! [30-Sep-21 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: are we on the same page with just putting DW in the SST for next week? [30-Sep-21 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: also, if you know anyone off-planet producing these and are willing to supply, do pass them that link [30-Sep-21 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: yep, check my notes in the procurement [30-Sep-21 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: on DW [30-Sep-21 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ok, thats all i had to say on a governmental level. [30-Sep-21 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: We'll monitor it the coming week and if necessary do OFF after [30-Sep-21 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: but by and large it looks like DW is sufficient? [30-Sep-21 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ^^ id say so [30-Sep-21 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: on a personal level, i hope youll vote FoodInsutries COGC, i think the reduced consumables prices could be just as beneficial to you as PIO COGC might be [30-Sep-21 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: :D [30-Sep-21 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: I don't have a position on the CoGC industry yet, but as long as it's not PIO I think it's good for Avalon in the long term! [30-Sep-21 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: PIO is a nice short term boost, but if you know for certain that there's a 25% boost in a particular industry you can transition to that [30-Sep-21 08:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: alright, im happy you think that way. PIO COGC supporters scare me [30-Sep-21 08:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: yeah [30-Sep-21 08:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: especially with 2nd bases right, the 25% becomes so much more important [30-Sep-21 08:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: rip like all the Prom people who suffered under PIO for so long [30-Sep-21 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: tyranny of the majority! [30-Sep-21 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i dont even know if its tyranny, i feel its closer to a logical fallacy. "whatever most equally provides direct benefit is best for everyone" [30-Sep-21 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: most PIO COGC voters have very good intentions [30-Sep-21 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: the math just doesnt add up, and they often overlook the transition factor [30-Sep-21 10:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Greetings [30-Sep-21 10:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Good luck on the election, Drag. [30-Sep-21 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: hello; ill be dropping my platform in a day or so, i hope youll see a candidate you like in me [30-Sep-21 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheSmithAries** deleted this message.* [30-Sep-21 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: :) [30-Sep-21 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: The last two shipments of yours might be late by a couple of hours @yesplease [30-Sep-21 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Ugh, the first time I ship something of any value between CXs, the shipper missed the deadline with no communication. I hope it's just someone who isn't on every day and not piracy [30-Sep-21 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: who? i think its worth sharing [30-Sep-21 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I've got one contract that's extended with them and one that expires in the morning. If they miss that one too, I'll share [30-Sep-21 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Until then I'm going to try to assume good intent [30-Sep-21 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: sure, i guess id just like to avoid late shippers myself. ^^all good tho [30-Sep-21 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: man. my H will be landing 20 minutes before my BMP run starts lol [30-Sep-21 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: talk about cutting it close [30-Sep-21 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: almost screwed that pony [30-Sep-21 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Now I can sell 300 FF @ 3,000 ica [30-Sep-21 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Oh hey, they just filled the contract! [30-Sep-21 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: great! [30-Sep-21 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: That's funny someone tried to buy those 8 BSE for 11 ICA [01-Oct-21 12:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I have 2 BDE for sale for 1100 each [01-Oct-21 12:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: as well as 2 BBH for 1300 each [01-Oct-21 12:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: im all full till next wednesday ^^ [01-Oct-21 12:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: oof [01-Oct-21 12:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: ill always have my BDE ads on the LM :) [01-Oct-21 12:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I only have 5 though not 16 lol [01-Oct-21 12:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: and your BDE ads are a little stinky compared to CX right now [01-Oct-21 12:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: welp, im officially capped by lack of PIO on avalon. on a tangental note, im bringing 20 BBH from CX to make sure this thing gets done this week [01-Oct-21 12:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: this thing = SST [01-Oct-21 12:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 46/22 space left on ship going HRT > Avalon, express route(~10h), waiting about 15 minutes [01-Oct-21 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: yep theyre meant to be slightly better then bid price [01-Oct-21 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: whoo! SST! [01-Oct-21 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: \o/ [01-Oct-21 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: woohoo, SST is here, we shouldnt suffer from any lack of PIO/SET soon [01-Oct-21 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Will this get us to 100% safety? [01-Oct-21 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: if we ran all 3 consumables, for sure [01-Oct-21 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: But with DW? [01-Oct-21 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: like 93% ish [01-Oct-21 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Nice [01-Oct-21 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ill math it again to get a better number [01-Oct-21 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: basically the numbers that should matter to you as a resident is that migration will go from 10% of existing pop to 20% of existing pop, or so [01-Oct-21 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Nice, that's a big deal [01-Oct-21 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: migration is happiness - 70% btw [01-Oct-21 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: so that top end has big effects [01-Oct-21 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Ah, so that amplifies the difference a lot. Cool, thanks [01-Oct-21 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: also happiness is a 5 week moving difference weighted towards recent weeks... so we wont shoot up to that 20% migration region, we will trend towards it [01-Oct-21 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: Hey, we have a safety station? Wowza! Maybe this industrialized ball of mud may be family-friendly yet! I won't raise my kids here, but maybe get a dog... [01-Oct-21 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: There must be an election going on...projects getting completed... [01-Oct-21 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: Ray, we're putting up a COGC this week ^^; [01-Oct-21 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: We're hitting the big time! What resources are we going to need on a regular basis? [01-Oct-21 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: RAT DW MCG PE [01-Oct-21 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: Speaking of industrialized ball of mud, I see an ad on our LM selling 1 DW for 12,100 ICA. Why didn't we leave Nestlé on EARTH?! [01-Oct-21 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ill give you 1 DW for 12099 if it makes you feel better ;) [01-Oct-21 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: the PE is for all the batons the hit people, and the MCG to burry the corpses [01-Oct-21 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: Do you think I am Evian spelled backwards? [01-Oct-21 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: hey look, someone wrote gullible on the ceiling! [01-Oct-21 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: oh wait, I thought that was the SST upkeep, nvm then ^^ [01-Oct-21 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: "please come again, I am here all week" [01-Oct-21 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: so yesplease has thrown in enough DW to keep it fueled for a week, so we are set for our test, aka set for the next 10 days [01-Oct-21 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Just bought a shipload of hydrogen - anyone want some? [01-Oct-21 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: Hello Avachums - I'm back from my holiday and rejoicing in having the use of a mouse and decent sized screen again! [01-Oct-21 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: woo! [01-Oct-21 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: welcome back! [01-Oct-21 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: \o/ [01-Oct-21 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: welcome back msorange! we've made leaps and bounds of progress while you were away... but not bc of it! [01-Oct-21 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: also *someone* used up all our spare pioneers :P [01-Oct-21 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i think i might be using more than my "fair share" :P [01-Oct-21 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: in other news why does assanova need 16 BTA? [01-Oct-21 11:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: is he building himself an emergency centre? [01-Oct-21 11:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: no clue, havent really asked [01-Oct-21 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: he had buy order for 32 BDE that either got filled or taken down [01-Oct-21 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: so for some reason I made a bunch of LTA... does anyone need some? [01-Oct-21 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: it seemed like a good idea at the time [01-Oct-21 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: right so given I've been basically off chat for a week can anyone give me a quick recap of what I've missed? [01-Oct-21 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I see there's a safety station now :) [01-Oct-21 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Yup! And the last bid contracts for CoGC are in progress [01-Oct-21 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: hmm I should probably do some bidding - I've let it slip whilst I've been away [01-Oct-21 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: @SSJ5 I would like to return your 11 ICA [01-Oct-21 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: it will cost you at least 53 ICA to do that :| [01-Oct-21 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: meh;) [01-Oct-21 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheSmithAries** deleted this message.* [01-Oct-21 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I think @desan May have made a mistake on the LM [01-Oct-21 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: so, afaik, all bids on MATs to build the COGC have closed, so it should be up in 7 days at most. some of the bidders live in BEN. after that, we wait 7 days to vote on what we actually want, as the COGC is stuck in limbo on PIO for first week [01-Oct-21 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: no, @thesmitharies, that one is intentional. people often sell DW at insanely high prices to transfer cash [01-Oct-21 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I stand corrected that's ingenious [01-Oct-21 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I hope they have the ability to transfer money as something they're going to put in [01-Oct-21 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: @msorange by "in progress" I meant the bids closed, the LM contracts are signed, but not all fulfilled [01-Oct-21 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: but the consumables for the COGC and SST are currently being bid on ^^ [01-Oct-21 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i got halfway through entering my bids and stopped, and now i dont remember which bids i made XD ill be waiting for yesplease to help me sort my mess [01-Oct-21 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Anyone willing to takee these 5 MAG off my hands? [01-Oct-21 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: you could just set up a shipping contract [01-Oct-21 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: and sell them to MM [01-Oct-21 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Does 500 ICA Sound okay? [01-Oct-21 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: to ship? [01-Oct-21 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: yeah [01-Oct-21 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 100 ICA should be fine [01-Oct-21 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Like that? [01-Oct-21 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yeah, someone will grab it when they have the space [01-Oct-21 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: any WELders on avalon? looking for 8 TRU [01-Oct-21 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: leaving to prom in 20 minutes, 4 hour flight ~ 120t available [01-Oct-21 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Do I base my shipping price On weight or volume? [01-Oct-21 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: whatever is the highest [01-Oct-21 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: oh I see [01-Oct-21 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I can make trusses @Dragonican [01-Oct-21 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I have 23 in stock apparently :D [01-Oct-21 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: can do 275 each if that's reasonable? [01-Oct-21 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: sure [01-Oct-21 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I'll put up a dodad [01-Oct-21 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: dodad done [01-Oct-21 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: nice doing business with you :) [01-Oct-21 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ^^ [01-Oct-21 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: @msorange if you've got so many in stock, care to make the same deal again? [01-Oct-21 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: can do - mate's rates :D [01-Oct-21 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: there you go Mr thejeffcooper [01-Oct-21 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Thanks! [01-Oct-21 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Greetings [01-Oct-21 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: heya [01-Oct-21 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: howdy [01-Oct-21 08:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: how goes it? [01-Oct-21 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: 10/1 [01-Oct-21 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: fuelling up the galaxy [01-Oct-21 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: yay [01-Oct-21 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: speaking of which [01-Oct-21 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: i got PE, if anyone needs :) [01-Oct-21 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Did you bid on the PE for the CoGC upkeep? [01-Oct-21 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Also, if you are making lots of PE, you need any hydrogen? [01-Oct-21 09:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anybody have cargo for HRT? [01-Oct-21 09:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I've gotta send a ship to get some cargo, but it's mostly empty on the way out there [01-Oct-21 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: your to fill avalon -> hrt? [01-Oct-21 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: yeah [01-Oct-21 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: do you have cargo? [01-Oct-21 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: you still have room? [01-Oct-21 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: yeah, ship is basically empty [01-Oct-21 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: not leaving until it's full or I'm about to fall asleep... whichever comes first [01-Oct-21 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: when you leaving? [01-Oct-21 09:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: when will your cargo be ready? [01-Oct-21 09:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: as long as it can fly overnight, I don't much care [01-Oct-21 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: just some fabs that are good to go now [01-Oct-21 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: do you have more that will be ready soon? [01-Oct-21 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: in the next horu or two? [01-Oct-21 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: *hour [01-Oct-21 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: im going to be posting them here in the next few minuets [01-Oct-21 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: SG [01-Oct-21 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: thanks! [01-Oct-21 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: still have a bunch of space left! anyone else? [01-Oct-21 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: 30 minute warning [01-Oct-21 10:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: alright, last call for overnight service to HRT [02-Oct-21 03:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: and flux is now being produced!! [02-Oct-21 07:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: Morning Avalonians [02-Oct-21 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Selling hydrogen on the LM at a loss... mistakes were made. Buy plz :P [02-Oct-21 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: HRT-Avalon, ~24h, leaving in ~30m. 400t / 250m^3 left [02-Oct-21 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: left [02-Oct-21 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: Anyone have LST they can spare? =) [02-Oct-21 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Yeah, how much you need? [02-Oct-21 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: how much you got? [02-Oct-21 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I can do 20 @ 105. [02-Oct-21 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: sure [02-Oct-21 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: posted [02-Oct-21 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: thanks =) [02-Oct-21 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: np. Next time I will haul LST again instead of H... [02-Oct-21 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anyone have O.IC1 and/or FLX.IC1 locally that they could sell me a few of? [02-Oct-21 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i think kyzekk just put up a CHP here [02-Oct-21 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: with the intent of lots of FLX [02-Oct-21 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: woohoo [02-Oct-21 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I just put up 50 LST for 100/u. [02-Oct-21 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: Ms Orange, pick up your fuel [02-Oct-21 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: picked up :) [02-Oct-21 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: now back to playing Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous [02-Oct-21 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: gotta love a game with a colon... hmmm that sounded better before I typed it [02-Oct-21 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: LOL [02-Oct-21 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I need to get back to Starbase... My new ship isn't fast enough, so need to do a slight redesign, and add more thrusters [02-Oct-21 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***komuroto** joined.* [02-Oct-21 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: if people want to regularly put LST contracts up here I will gladly buy them on the regular instead of shipping in my own LST [02-Oct-21 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Nice, I may do that when a ship is free [02-Oct-21 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: You willing to buy in lots up to 183? [02-Oct-21 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: should have 10U of FLX here in 4 hours [02-Oct-21 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: @lordcirth Yes [02-Oct-21 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Anyone want 44 MCG? [02-Oct-21 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Anyone sell PG locally? [02-Oct-21 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Greetings. [02-Oct-21 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Do we have any dedicated C suppliers here? [02-Oct-21 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: also looking for MAI [02-Oct-21 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: MAI would more likely be Promitor [02-Oct-21 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: More Hydrogen up on the LM, btw [02-Oct-21 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Thank you! [02-Oct-21 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Whoo! 3rd manu expert! [02-Oct-21 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheSmithAries** deleted this message.* [02-Oct-21 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Apart from the BMP ,Manufacturing doesn't seem very good for profit [02-Oct-21 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Until you get to engineers or scientists [02-Oct-21 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Well, the BMP is versatile - nice for making a rotation of goods to hedge risk. But also most people have one too. [02-Oct-21 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: youre right, but you dont need to go beyond BMP [02-Oct-21 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I expect to make a tolerable profit on the WPL I just built, but not as high as my PP1&PP2. [02-Oct-21 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: yeah^ [02-Oct-21 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: But some of my most profitable goods consume a lot of WPL products, so it's good to reduce my risk and 2 fewer things on the shopping list [02-Oct-21 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: The main problem with manufacturing that I see is a coonsiderable amount of products have low demand [02-Oct-21 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: so I might still go towards carbon making [02-Oct-21 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Would that be beneficial To Avalon? [02-Oct-21 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Lots of us use Carbon. I've seen LM ads buying 50 at a time [02-Oct-21 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: lots of people here smelt their own ore and turn it into prefabs, from what i here [02-Oct-21 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: The thing with the BMP is that you can rapidly pivot between PE, OVE, PWO, MCG, PT... [02-Oct-21 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: REP, EXO, OFF, SUN, :D [02-Oct-21 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I am going to keep the BMP for those products [02-Oct-21 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I only use carbon for PE, but I have 50% of BMP doing that [02-Oct-21 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: this is sort of a next step [02-Oct-21 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Keep in mind 2 things; having a second industry is fine, you're not going to hit 4 experts for a while anyway. And, we will probably have a Food Industry CoGC very soon [02-Oct-21 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I already have 2, so I'm not likely going FI until I have a second base to move my construction to [02-Oct-21 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I think I rather get rid of the second BMP temporarily and get a INC [02-Oct-21 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I think it would be better if I kept it and buy the parts for the INC [02-Oct-21 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ^ not too much reason to tear it down if its working well [02-Oct-21 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I'm only using it to make PT ,And they only have two STL [02-Oct-21 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Feel free to post ads for the parts! I have some of them already, and can re-arrange my queue [02-Oct-21 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: did someone need PG? [02-Oct-21 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I wasn't asking, but I might be interested [02-Oct-21 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I don't normally sell it but I've put a second polymer dodad in and now I'm drowning in the stuff [02-Oct-21 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: how much do you have, and what price are you looking for? [02-Oct-21 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: well I could probably sell upto 450 and not worry too much [02-Oct-21 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I have the mats to make a 3D printer but I'm just not sure how useful those products are right now [02-Oct-21 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'm definitely looking for 12x PSL, and I suspect @dragonican is as well [02-Oct-21 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ...maybe [02-Oct-21 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: hmm maybe I should build it then [02-Oct-21 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: im probably going to get mine from parafort though, unless you have a silly-low price [02-Oct-21 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: ah for a core module - yeah I suspect I should branch out onto another planet myself. [02-Oct-21 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: OK I finally built it [02-Oct-21 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: woohoo [02-Oct-21 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: let us know when you have a price for PSL :) [02-Oct-21 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: which will deplete my free PG a little but I'm guessing you needed the PG for the PSL [02-Oct-21 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I actually needed it for LSE [02-Oct-21 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: but I also don't know if I can afford as much as I need at the moment [02-Oct-21 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I've set it off doing 3 lots of 4 but it ain't quick - going to see what I can do with some expert jiggling - take that whatever way you want :D [02-Oct-21 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: :P [02-Oct-21 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: actually, I'm in like 15k of debt [02-Oct-21 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: :O [02-Oct-21 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: so... maybe I shoudn't be buying [02-Oct-21 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: it'll be fine. I have twice that in BSE waiting to sell at the CX, and plenty of time before it's due [02-Oct-21 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: you got your own PP2? [02-Oct-21 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yeah, all us new players have been scaling hard during your vacation XD [02-Oct-21 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: we are hardly new anymore though [02-Oct-21 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: yeah, I've been running 4x PP2 for a while [02-Oct-21 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: according to my base list, I built my first one 30 days ago :O [02-Oct-21 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: gawd I can't be arsed to scale out that much - i suspect if I start a carbon thing I'll have to go wide or go home [02-Oct-21 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: but for now I've stopped at 2 [02-Oct-21 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: a carbon thing? [02-Oct-21 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'm also running some SMEs, so I'd be very interested in a local supplier of carbon [02-Oct-21 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I'm considering a second base to farm carbon on prom or something like that [02-Oct-21 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ah [02-Oct-21 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: rather than hyf-ing it here [02-Oct-21 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I too would like cheaper carbon [02-Oct-21 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: my second base is going to be on Deimos, and I'm planning to truck in my own ALO and O [02-Oct-21 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: nice [02-Oct-21 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: you sure you wont smelt the ALO on Deimos? or is that what youre sayin [02-Oct-21 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: that's probably the long-term plan, but I already have the SMEs up here [02-Oct-21 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: so in the short term, just hauling ore [02-Oct-21 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: the 6 ALO and the 3 AL it turns into both weigh the same, so its not too much of an issue ^^ [02-Oct-21 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: however, metallurgy COGC on deimos [02-Oct-21 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: 4 AL. I use flux :) [02-Oct-21 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: but yeah, the COGC is a factor [02-Oct-21 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: im dumb, i didnt even read the whole page. of course you should use FLX [02-Oct-21 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: COGC is actually huge, it already sounds good at "25% efficiency" but when you realize that makes you get experts faster and then the experts multiply with the COGC [02-Oct-21 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: How do you make your RAT's dragon? [02-Oct-21 05:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i buy all the stuff to make them, just like a BMP [02-Oct-21 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: From where? [02-Oct-21 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: the cx, prom, individuals. im trying to arrange a trade-group to "solve" RAT/DW prices and let each player utilize their COGC [02-Oct-21 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: if you plan to throw up lots of FP on Avalon, i can help you find the materials you need [02-Oct-21 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheSmithAries** deleted this message.* [02-Oct-21 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Carbon manufacturing [02-Oct-21 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: oh? i dont know much about making carbon [02-Oct-21 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: you could still just buy what you need on CX [02-Oct-21 06:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: anyone need flux? got 10 for sale [02-Oct-21 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: they definitely do, if you put up the ad im sure itll get picked up [02-Oct-21 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: wow, looking over the treasury, i didnt realize our debt wasnt *that* bad for the COGC, if im reading things properly [02-Oct-21 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: @kyzekk how much? [02-Oct-21 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Ah, saw your lm ad [02-Oct-21 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: thanks!! [02-Oct-21 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Thank you! [02-Oct-21 06:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: @msorange it was I who asked about PG; I'm starting to use a lot of it. But I did just buy 500 on the CX. [02-Oct-21 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: If you throw some up on the LM I'm sure it will sell [02-Oct-21 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: im always catching myself low on PG ^^ [02-Oct-21 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Yeah. I started making LSE and also NL, so PG is vanishing fast [02-Oct-21 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: if you started making PG, i dont think you could cover all of our needs, i think we avalonians eat a fair bit [02-Oct-21 06:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: 116k is a fair bit to me, but not much for a planet, yeah [02-Oct-21 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: in comparison to the last few tax rates, its "nothing". one term of 40 production taxes would probably generate ~95k [02-Oct-21 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: we could also take it slow, but i find im beginning to believe we should build more SST without delay [02-Oct-21 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: so that we can pay cheaper upkeep overall, and never fall behind on growth [02-Oct-21 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Better to have 2 SST on DW, than one on DW+OFF, long term? [02-Oct-21 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yep! thats the entire idea, i dont have anything else to say in support XD [02-Oct-21 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Makes sense. DW is ~40 and OFF is ~100. Are they used at the same rate for the same effect? [02-Oct-21 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: not same rate, yes same effect [02-Oct-21 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 5 DW = 3 OFF [02-Oct-21 07:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: (3*100)/(5*40) = 1.5 [02-Oct-21 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 50DW = 30OFF = 9SUN [02-Oct-21 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: (9*300)/(50*40) = 1.35 ... does that mean SUN is actually more cost-effective than OFF, or is my math wrong [02-Oct-21 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: let me check historical auctions and see what things went for [02-Oct-21 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: couldnt find any solid numbers in the Prom archives, might just be momentary price blips *shrug* [02-Oct-21 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Yeah, I'm just going by CXP, which could be off [02-Oct-21 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I need 800 PG if your selling [02-Oct-21 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: last call before i head to the CX. anyone got MAI? [02-Oct-21 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Anyone want 5 PT? [02-Oct-21 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: can i have 3? [02-Oct-21 11:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i only eat .1 a day [02-Oct-21 11:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BangBogel** joined.* [02-Oct-21 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: yeah [02-Oct-21 11:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: k [02-Oct-21 11:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: you clicked CIS [02-Oct-21 11:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: wrong currency [02-Oct-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: thx ^^ [02-Oct-21 11:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: how much for the other 2? [02-Oct-21 11:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: he charged me 350ea [02-Oct-21 11:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ill buy the other 2 [03-Oct-21 12:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: k [03-Oct-21 12:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: up [03-Oct-21 02:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I've been trying to sell stuff at the CX for a few days, but keep getting underbid. My dog woke me up at 3am and I decided to relist, and they sold in 10 minutes [03-Oct-21 02:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Timing is everything :D [03-Oct-21 03:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yup [03-Oct-21 03:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Unfortunately now I can't get back to sleep [03-Oct-21 03:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ooof [03-Oct-21 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **sdlouisee**: Anyone need anything taken to HRT? I'm leaving in a few hours [03-Oct-21 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: how much space do you have left? [03-Oct-21 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: im about to do the same route with 450/450 open [03-Oct-21 10:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 440/420, actually [03-Oct-21 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Ad posted [03-Oct-21 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: First come first served. Small package [03-Oct-21 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: @dragonican what's your expected flight time? [03-Oct-21 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: No particular rush on that one, just curious [03-Oct-21 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 4ish h [03-Oct-21 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: To arrival?? [03-Oct-21 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Or that's to departure? [03-Oct-21 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: arrival [03-Oct-21 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: fuel is cheap and my buffer is short, i keep running into rough spots [03-Oct-21 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: :) [03-Oct-21 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Are you coming right back after? And if so, do you have space on the return trip? [03-Oct-21 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: return trip will probably be pretty full, havent fully planned it yet. and yes, immediatel [03-Oct-21 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Kk. I'm not sure exactly what I need, but I'll post ads on the Avalon lm and your can grab them if you have space [03-Oct-21 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: If not, no worries [03-Oct-21 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yup, ill remember to at least check [03-Oct-21 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Anyone have DW for sale? [03-Oct-21 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: Yeah, how much do you need? [03-Oct-21 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: 30? [03-Oct-21 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: Ok, 33ea. Can you set it up? [03-Oct-21 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Sure [03-Oct-21 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Posted [03-Oct-21 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: Enjoy [03-Oct-21 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Greetings! [03-Oct-21 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: I didn't realize that you could spend x2 the amount as normal for C and get 3x the yield. Gonna have to look into that! [03-Oct-21 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Might not need a second inci afterall. [03-Oct-21 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: well, you aren't really getting 3x the yield. You are burning more crops to get your 4C faster. Just HCP, and it takes 27 hours. HCP + GRN or MAI, and it's 18 hours. HCP + GRN + MAI, and it's 9 hours. (4+2+2) [03-Oct-21 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: That's what I meant, yea. [03-Oct-21 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: the cost ends up being almost the same though [03-Oct-21 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: because where you spend more on materials, you spend less on worker consumption [03-Oct-21 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: C is selling well now, so pumping out C 3x as fast is well worth the extra crop costs [03-Oct-21 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Gonna be keeping it all to myself :) [03-Oct-21 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: better to over-produce. That way you can make some extra money on it [03-Oct-21 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: well, I plan to open a second BMP, which will need the extra C. We'll see how it goes for now though :) [03-Oct-21 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: well, with 1 INC running with full crops, you can turn out about 11 C/day. So that should more than cover 2 BMP's [03-Oct-21 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: :) :) :) [03-Oct-21 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Just going to run 2 for now and see how it goes. [03-Oct-21 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Not like I'm losing money storing the extra C anyway [03-Oct-21 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: no, but you can be selling the extra, making more money, and expanding faster. [03-Oct-21 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: That's the plan. :) [03-Oct-21 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Do you need C? :) [03-Oct-21 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: no, I make plenty on Montem [03-Oct-21 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Okies. [03-Oct-21 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: Which candidate for governor is running on an anti-capitalist platform? [03-Oct-21 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: I think PrUn should become a basic income simulator. [03-Oct-21 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: Victor Hugo said there is no stopping an idea whose time has come. (Or was it Hugo Weaving? Elrond?) [03-Oct-21 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: By "now" (whatever year it is) shouldn't we have sorted out the whole "earn a living" thing? Why does one have to pay the master for the right to live? [03-Oct-21 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Well, I'm not aware of an option to give our workers ownership in our companies. [03-Oct-21 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Other than Eve online this is the only other game that I can use my very rusty Excel skills [03-Oct-21 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: That's a very interesting idea for a future development, @lordcirth. Once the fun of building our capitalism from scratch is fleshed out in all dimensions, walk it back to ask the fundamental question -- does prosperity make a happy universe when it's unequal? [03-Oct-21 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: I'll be an overlord by then, so I'll certainly chage my mind. [03-Oct-21 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: sorry raykowalchuk, i dont think either candidate is right for you XD im running on purely market principles [03-Oct-21 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I've missed your chats Ray :) [03-Oct-21 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: just popped on to see if anything was on fire - apparently not - night chaps [03-Oct-21 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pmf4_bXAdR3Li7_T8UA6VVLa_4NdCuyH7FSA1TzaB3c/edit?usp=sharing If anybody's interested in this calculator {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pmf4_bXAdR3Li7_T8UA6VVLa_4NdCuyH7FSA1TzaB3c/edit?usp=sharing orders calculator Sheet1 Ingredients,Commodity,Amount,Weight/T,Volume/m3,Price,Currency MAI,1,1.3,1,111.11,ICA GRN,1,0.9,1,98.88,ICA HCP,1,0.8,1,111.11,ICA Recipe,INC->C=4,Amount,Weight/T,Volume/m3,Price,Currency MAI,4,1.3,4,444.44,ICA GRN,2,0.9,2,197.76,ICA HCP,2,0.8,2,222.22,ICA Total,3,8,864.42,ICA Orders,Amou... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/jdJUcOgU7YR4_aRcbsddIBuaYcRsy-p67i9VOLjqgjc/https/lh3.googleusercontent.com/n18SgRl8ZuUOp_IMefY9woFQQxx1KgvbRHzwoSXX9t4L099OqDFdsNKjoe1cKymJ7WVzBpXVz6zB0Q%3Dw1200-h630-p [03-Oct-21 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ^ it has to do with carbon production [03-Oct-21 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: and i think you got the recipe wrong? its 4 HCP, not 4 MAI [03-Oct-21 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Is anyone here making NL.IC1 that they would be willing to part with? [03-Oct-21 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: how much NL do you use? i could run my WPL on NL for like a week [03-Oct-21 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I am making NL with ~50% of a WPL. it's not fast [03-Oct-21 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: But I do have 2 you could buy now [03-Oct-21 06:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I can post 2 @ 2000ea? [03-Oct-21 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Ad is up [03-Oct-21 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Thanks! I'm making LFabs for my second base, so I'll need two more at some point but not ongoing [03-Oct-21 06:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I'm also making lfabs, but I have 24hr+ of contracted work before I can start making LDE anyway [03-Oct-21 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: would it be of use if i ran NL 100% on a WPL? ive been making COT but not really using it up recently, preferring OVE for ease of buffer [03-Oct-21 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Considering that NL is at 2000, and LDE is still the most profitable thing I can make, I think that would be great for everyone [03-Oct-21 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I just changed mine to 100% NL [03-Oct-21 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: if anyone would be willing to sell me 200 PG, i could get started right away; the payment would come in ~12 hours though [03-Oct-21 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pelinal_chan** joined.* [03-Oct-21 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I can't spare that, but @MsOrange was saying they could sell PG on the LM [03-Oct-21 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: they went to sleep recently, so probably wont get lucky. its ok though, no losses from it [03-Oct-21 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Ah, yeah [03-Oct-21 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I'll just put a buy on the LM [03-Oct-21 07:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Curben** joined.* [03-Oct-21 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I modified the calculator and looks like a nearly full ship will produce ~248 C [03-Oct-21 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: 14,625.8 ICA with current prices [03-Oct-21 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Good to help Avalon but I'm not so sure about profit [03-Oct-21 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: A full ship of plants? [03-Oct-21 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: All but 2T [03-Oct-21 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: whats the profit for an inc daily for you then? [03-Oct-21 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: 3,300 I think [03-Oct-21 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Minus the worker upkeep [03-Oct-21 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: that sounds realy good to me [03-Oct-21 07:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: if youre over 1000 profit a day after you subtract all the upkeeps, youre in a good spot [03-Oct-21 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: The only thing I haven't figured out is how much is costs for repairs, basic consumables And luxury consumables etc. [03-Oct-21 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: on my calculation an INC gives me 2k a day at max speeds [03-Oct-21 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: with 4 resource ext experts [03-Oct-21 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: What recipe are you using? [03-Oct-21 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: max speeds so the 8plants [03-Oct-21 07:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: hmm I forgot about expert bonuses [03-Oct-21 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: In that case I don't have any ext experts [03-Oct-21 07:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Regardless I only wanted to figure out how much plants I could fit in a ship and how much that will cost [03-Oct-21 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Greetings! [03-Oct-21 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheSmithAries** deleted this message.* [03-Oct-21 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: hi [03-Oct-21 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Howdy. [03-Oct-21 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: Hi all! [03-Oct-21 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: As discussed, taxes are going up! [03-Oct-21 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: But unfortunately, we can't get rid of the LM fees [03-Oct-21 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Can't? [03-Oct-21 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Is 3/day the minimum? [03-Oct-21 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: there is a game bottom limit on the LM [03-Oct-21 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: dumb in faction rules... [03-Oct-21 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: lets go protest in front of the cx! [03-Oct-21 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Can they not go below 50/3 ? [03-Oct-21 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: nope [03-Oct-21 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: have to settle Boucher for free LM ;) [03-Oct-21 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: True boucher best planet [04-Oct-21 12:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I just posted a whole bunch of small HRT -> avalon shipping contracts on the LM [04-Oct-21 12:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: if anyone has a ship with some extra space [04-Oct-21 07:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Ah crap. And i just left not that long ago. [04-Oct-21 07:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Sorry. I'll check the LM next time. [04-Oct-21 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Last call for packages to HRT [04-Oct-21 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Ok, I'll post somethine [04-Oct-21 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: That's all for now, I think. The rest is lots of different items than I'll ship myself [04-Oct-21 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: that*. I wish we could bundle [04-Oct-21 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: express ship to HRT leaving in ~30m. post your ads :) [04-Oct-21 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: also accepting ads for the return trip. hoping to be back within ~25h [04-Oct-21 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: heh, good thing I got distracted and haven't sent the ship yet :P [04-Oct-21 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: let me know when you've got everything posted [04-Oct-21 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: same. I suspect that's coming at some point [04-Oct-21 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: it's a very requested feature [04-Oct-21 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: right after the mobile UI, and the new map [04-Oct-21 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i hope :) [04-Oct-21 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: New map? I don't remember hearing about that [04-Oct-21 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: this is the first I've heard of it, but that would be welcome [04-Oct-21 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I got halfway through downloading the map data from FIO and rendering it in gephi before I got sidetracked [04-Oct-21 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: the new map has been WIP for like... idk 3-4 months? the last real dev blog we got that actually had any dev info in it was about the map update [04-Oct-21 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: B) [04-Oct-21 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***armorlord** joined.* [04-Oct-21 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: @thejeffcooper, so ~13hr flight? [04-Oct-21 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I actually realized that I'm running out of inputs, so I flew it faster. arriving at HRT 5h33m from now [04-Oct-21 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: oh wow ok [04-Oct-21 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Buying COF on LM [04-Oct-21 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I do need 2x more NL at some point if one of you fine WPLers has some to spare [04-Oct-21 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I accidentally deleted my LM buy ad this morning in a sleepy stupor [04-Oct-21 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i started my NL production a few hours ago [04-Oct-21 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: is it spoken for? [04-Oct-21 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: no [04-Oct-21 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: 2k each okay? that's what I paid someone (@lordcirth?) last night [04-Oct-21 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yup [04-Oct-21 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: cool, posting [04-Oct-21 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Yeah, I sold for 2k earlier [04-Oct-21 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: posted [04-Oct-21 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Probably not selling any more so long as LDE continues so high [04-Oct-21 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 21 hours [04-Oct-21 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: cool. do you need the money now or is payment on delivery okay? [04-Oct-21 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: you dont need to pay until then [04-Oct-21 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: If anyone needs bfabs, just post on the LM - it doesn't make sense to post sells, as people need specific amounts [04-Oct-21 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Anyone want 350 PE? [04-Oct-21 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Not really, but I could take it if you need quick cash [04-Oct-21 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Not really it's just excess [04-Oct-21 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i need it [04-Oct-21 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: if youre good with passing it to someone who will use it within a few days ^^ [04-Oct-21 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: My mistake I think it's actually 21 [04-Oct-21 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: It seems the LDE shortage got overcorrected, but the other lfabs rebounded from their crashes, too [04-Oct-21 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: carbon prices continue to piss me off [04-Oct-21 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I think it will drop - several people building new INCs [04-Oct-21 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: H prices pissed me off, though, crashing from 70 to 50 just after I bought a shipload to resell [04-Oct-21 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: But that was a fallback plan anyway, just didn't want the ship travelling empty [04-Oct-21 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: welcome, new Avalonian! [04-Oct-21 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: talking of hydrogen *looks at contracts* [04-Oct-21 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Yes, it's coming. Slowly. I wasted a lot of fuel on this already. [04-Oct-21 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: 3.5h [04-Oct-21 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Agent_8** joined.* [04-Oct-21 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: ahaha - just checking you hadn't forgotten me :D [04-Oct-21 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: woohoo, our new taxes are juicy. im sure theyll look great after we've been running the recovery tax rate for a whole week [04-Oct-21 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 61.4k [04-Oct-21 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I don't think I need my second BMP [04-Oct-21 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I was hoping it would let me produce double pe and apparently I cant [04-Oct-21 02:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Anyway anyone have three hydrogen I could buy? [04-Oct-21 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Exactly 3? lol I could do that [04-Oct-21 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Whoops sorry 7 [04-Oct-21 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: posted [04-Oct-21 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: ty [04-Oct-21 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: np [04-Oct-21 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Anyone have 4x LST sitting around? [04-Oct-21 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Apparently I didn't have enough hydrogen because now both BMPs are making PE [04-Oct-21 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I'm going to be honest I don't like manufacturing [04-Oct-21 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: especially for a beginner [04-Oct-21 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: H is easy.. its the C that kills you [04-Oct-21 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Maybe instead of the incinerator I should've got a second pp1 [04-Oct-21 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I am just a little concerned about Putting all that money and resources into something That could be rendered useless if the market crashess [04-Oct-21 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: with 4 differen bfabs, you have some flexiblilty; it's unlikely that they will all crash and stay crashed [04-Oct-21 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: But I do end up constantly shifting my queues to match the market. [04-Oct-21 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anyone have cargo from HRT? [04-Oct-21 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: HRT -> Avalon that is [04-Oct-21 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Avalon -> HRT, 6h burn, leaving in 15m [04-Oct-21 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Mostly empty [04-Oct-21 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: Am I correct in assuming that since Avalon's single Safety Station has "0/0" next to the upkeep inventory items DW OFF & SUN that the first Safety Station doesn't need upkeep? I can contribute SUN and OFF...if they are needed, and aren't going to sit perpetually in Reserve. [04-Oct-21 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I'm leaving HRT for avalon right now [04-Oct-21 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: @raykowalchuk I think that's just because no upkeep tick has yet occurred [04-Oct-21 05:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: well thejeffcouper you missed your chance cos I have to go to bed :D [04-Oct-21 05:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: *cooper [04-Oct-21 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: wait what? [04-Oct-21 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I thought you were also sending a ship [04-Oct-21 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: they did [04-Oct-21 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: @lordcirth - "upkeep tick?" Sounds awful...invasive even [04-Oct-21 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: They thought you were asking about cargo space, not packages [04-Oct-21 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ah [04-Oct-21 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I have too many different kinds of things for it to be worth shipping [04-Oct-21 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: *shipping on someone else's ship [04-Oct-21 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: yeah, me too most of the time [04-Oct-21 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I sent 100 PWO and 100 OVE as packages, but 4-8 different prefabs, not so much [04-Oct-21 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: @raykowalchuk i dont think we will need more than DW for the SST for now, so the SUN and OFF arent necessary at the moment [04-Oct-21 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: And as Dragonican and I were discussing earlier, it would be cheaper long-term to build a second tier of SST and run it on DW, than to supply higher goods [04-Oct-21 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: after our budget stablizes and we have concluded the SST 1 and COGC, i will advocate for an immediate SST2 [04-Oct-21 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Well, POPR is in 1.5d, so we should clearly see what's needed [04-Oct-21 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: the SST will turn on in 1.5d, and we will see its effects in the POPR 7 days later [04-Oct-21 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i dont see any responsibilities of the govt outside planetary projects and POPI. avalon will soon have built all relevant projects, meaning the Govt just needs to maintain COGC and build POPI. at that point, the question simply becomes "which POPI next" [04-Oct-21 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I don't know what you're talking about. we could build a SHY to show Avalon's true greatness [04-Oct-21 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: (should we? that wasn't the question) [04-Oct-21 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: maybe we can build a SHY after we hit lvl 10 in all POPI and are tech capital of the world :) [04-Oct-21 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: *universe [04-Oct-21 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: :) [04-Oct-21 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i think planetary improvements should be viewed from a "build order" approach, like an rts. we decide in which order things should be done, and then execute each step as soon as we are able [04-Oct-21 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: that makes it tricky to respond to changing conditions, though [04-Oct-21 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: which we are insulated from, but not 100% [04-Oct-21 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: which changing conditions? [04-Oct-21 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: like hypothetically if market conditions changed so that we decide we want to prioritize settler happiness over attracting technicians [04-Oct-21 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Ok, I didn't realize the effect would be delayed by another week. Still, that will probably come before the debt being gone, right? [04-Oct-21 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: settler happiness leads to technicians, you wouldnt quite choose between them. there are talks of avoiding having PIO or SET to get to high tech which avoids certain mechanics, but i believe a linear approach would put us in a safe position [04-Oct-21 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: @lordcirth a maximum of 120k is about to be paid out to two auctions on wednesday [04-Oct-21 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i predict our planetary balance will be 0, +- 20k by the next wednesday where we see the effects of the SST [04-Oct-21 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: hey all, theres still 2 PE and 2 MCG lots in the auctions that havent been bid on yet. go gettem! [04-Oct-21 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UuAA1XMuxFqgAX2HfYzlqp80S2lO3ufu-wV2jUzTujA/edit#gid=82951646 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UuAA1XMuxFqgAX2HfYzlqp80S2lO3ufu-wV2jUzTujA/edit Kingdom Of Avalon Wealth Administration Governance Sheet Dashboard designed by yesplease GOVERNMENT OF AVALON ,CHANGELOG Link: https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Jq4LLH1phl2JLrXhseQTBmVfPnnEoU_xHWF5ndzidas/https/lh4.googleusercontent.com/FgPi73TgGSRC3kwWZK69F_nA9-Gvislu4vjAlwWLPGClmqd93LHT1QymRSQkD8qbS4BmHrcVC36t3w%3Dw1200-h630-p [04-Oct-21 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: Link for those interested! [04-Oct-21 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Ah, I'd forgotten there was MCG, I just shipped mine. Bid on some PE. [04-Oct-21 07:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Greetings [04-Oct-21 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Anyone looking for PE? [04-Oct-21 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I make my own, but I can buy if you are in a pinch [04-Oct-21 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Well, maybe. I'm a little tight rn myself :P [04-Oct-21 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: the government is! [04-Oct-21 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: This is true, you can bid on the PE lots [04-Oct-21 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Unless you can't wait a few days [04-Oct-21 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: um [04-Oct-21 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: is that for Avalon? [04-Oct-21 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Anybody have one BSE and one BBH? [04-Oct-21 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: already made that mistake once lol [04-Oct-21 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: yeah, I do [04-Oct-21 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: you just need one of each? [04-Oct-21 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: You wouldn't happen also have any MCG? [04-Oct-21 08:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: how many? [04-Oct-21 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: 33 [04-Oct-21 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: And yes one each of the other two [04-Oct-21 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: yeah, I have the MCG [04-Oct-21 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: yay [04-Oct-21 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: BBH.IC1 BSE.IC1 MCG.IC1 [04-Oct-21 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: put up some ads [04-Oct-21 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Crap money [04-Oct-21 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheSmithAries** deleted this message.* [04-Oct-21 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: do you have LST? [04-Oct-21 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: if not, I'll buy REP or PT [04-Oct-21 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Can I sell you 1 PT? [04-Oct-21 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: not gonna pick it up until tomorrow. my workers are on strike 🙃 [04-Oct-21 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: which is to say, production is halted until my ship arrives [04-Oct-21 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: mistimed your supply deliveries? [04-Oct-21 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: More like I was so focused on one input that I didn't realize I would run out of the other so soon [04-Oct-21 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Adding another PP1 [04-Oct-21 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I think I miscalculated I need another 50 ICA [04-Oct-21 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Have FE prices come down? I switched from pp1 to pp2 during the iron storage a few weeks ago l [04-Oct-21 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Ah. I'll buy a few LST if you have them? [04-Oct-21 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Unfortunately I only have Bfabs [04-Oct-21 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Which ones? I'll buy back my BBH on a delay if you can replace it within a few days [04-Oct-21 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Let's say 1000 ICA now if you get me that BBH back in the next 5 days? [04-Oct-21 08:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I can give you two PT [04-Oct-21 08:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: That works too [04-Oct-21 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: 800 ICA? [04-Oct-21 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Sure, if you post the ad [04-Oct-21 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Okay [04-Oct-21 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: ty [04-Oct-21 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: np [04-Oct-21 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I now have double output [04-Oct-21 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Woohoo [04-Oct-21 09:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I have a ship of LST incoming, but it's all spoken for. Another run soon [04-Oct-21 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Cool. I'll likely want some of the next run [04-Oct-21 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I can buy from the CX until then [04-Oct-21 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: umm should I be concerned about not enough workers? [04-Oct-21 10:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: As in, you just built a new building and it's understaffed? [04-Oct-21 10:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Low worker population is why we built the SST, but it will take some time to kick in [04-Oct-21 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: You'll make stuff slower, but also use less consumables. Only building degradation still happens at the full rate [04-Oct-21 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: any "not enough workers" problems you have will likely be solved in 30h [05-Oct-21 12:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: Whoa...I didn't even look at the currency for the shipping contracts on the LM...just happened to pick them from the top and got the ICA contracts. I would have had to go on a shopping trip... [05-Oct-21 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: anyone interested in CAF at 600 here? my fp game is so weak i cant process this silly bean t-t [05-Oct-21 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: @yesplease you have a bunch of shipping contracts on the LM in non-ICA currencies. is that intentional? [05-Oct-21 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Probably, they've done it before [05-Oct-21 09:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: CAF needs to be sold for 500 to reasonably compete with the super low prices rn, but idk if youre willing to sell there [05-Oct-21 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: leaving avalon -> hrt in a few minutes. 6t / 400m3 left if anyone has something light [05-Oct-21 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: when are we getting a chamber of commerce to support the pioneer population? [05-Oct-21 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: we probably wont be voting PIO, and it looks like as soon as some guy named Dover delivers 8 LTA we will be done [05-Oct-21 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: CoGC should go Food Industries, PIO is bad for everyone [05-Oct-21 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I say this as someone who has 0 FI buildings. [05-Oct-21 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: However, I believe the first week of CoGC is PIO automatically? [05-Oct-21 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yep, but we also dont intend to pay for it [05-Oct-21 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: also, POPR is in about 18 hours, if you were delaying buildings bc youre out of PIO please throw them up before POPR. the open job bonus will help our growth, plus youll get the PIO you want without subtracting from your buffer for next week [05-Oct-21 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: BTW, If you can afford it, its always good to throw up the buildings you need workers for right away. The whole week counts to the open job growth bonus, not just right before the POPR [05-Oct-21 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: do pop mechanics actually happen between reports? i was under the understanding it was only the weekly tick [05-Oct-21 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Do you mean that the open jobs are averaged across the week? [05-Oct-21 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: on the other hand, those buildings will also start to wear even if they're not fully staffed [05-Oct-21 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: (I think?) [05-Oct-21 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Yes, they degrade. But that's a later problem :P [05-Oct-21 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Btw jeff, I just dispatched my second ship for more LST [05-Oct-21 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: thats why desan said if you can afford it ^^ [05-Oct-21 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: oh cool, thanks. what's the ETA on that LST shipment? [05-Oct-21 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: ~3d [05-Oct-21 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: Yes according to one of the Devs, the whole week counts [05-Oct-21 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: interesting [05-Oct-21 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: No need to do that for settlers, even though I'm a few short, because we have 7.4% unemployment? [05-Oct-21 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yeah, our SET should be fine, we have a buffer to float us till the SST turns on [05-Oct-21 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Does my reserve scale with my jobs, or just even across all bases? [05-Oct-21 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I have 300 PIO beds, all full, and 305 PIO jobs. Doesn't seem worth building another HB1 unless I'm going to make more jobs, and my next building is SET only [05-Oct-21 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Anyone selling AL locally? [05-Oct-21 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: how much and what timeline? [05-Oct-21 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: well your habitats don't degrade so building them ahead of time isn't an issue [05-Oct-21 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Yes, and I'm going to build an HB2 very soon. But sinking money into an idle building is still a form of waste. [05-Oct-21 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: @thejeffcooper about 30? I'll be out in about 2d [05-Oct-21 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: hmm, I don't think I'll have that much spare. My ship of ALO gets back in ~2d, then I have to build more SMEs [05-Oct-21 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: sorry! [05-Oct-21 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: the reserve is 10% of all new workers + all previously unemployed workers. thats per person [05-Oct-21 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Ok, thanks [05-Oct-21 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Np jeff, I'll buy on CX [05-Oct-21 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Hi peeps. Anyone looking for PE? [05-Oct-21 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: if I had money yeah lol [05-Oct-21 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anyone doing a quick burn to HRT today? [05-Oct-21 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Can I buy 4 hydrogen? [05-Oct-21 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Sure, I'll post an ad [05-Oct-21 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: up [05-Oct-21 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: ty [05-Oct-21 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: np [05-Oct-21 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: whats up with all the weird currencies on LM? [05-Oct-21 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I guess some people have more than one base [05-Oct-21 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: for sure, its just weird to trade in non-ICA on a planet in-system with HRT cx [05-Oct-21 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Probably trying to offload the currency [05-Oct-21 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ^^ my thoughts [05-Oct-21 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: trick a poor soul into taking your CIS :( [05-Oct-21 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: speaking of which [05-Oct-21 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I need about 300 CIS [05-Oct-21 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anyone have some they want to offload in exchange for RAT/DW/something? [05-Oct-21 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: you can have all 0 of mine [05-Oct-21 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: great, I'll give you 0 DW for it [05-Oct-21 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: im going to have a WPL running NL non-stop, so you PP2 guys can ask whenever [05-Oct-21 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: yay [05-Oct-21 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ad up for 1 PT at the low low price of 375 CIS [05-Oct-21 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anyone who wants to get rid of some of their starter CIS to get a free PT (currently valued at PT.IC1 ) [05-Oct-21 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Would anyone be interested in C if i put it up on the LM? [05-Oct-21 06:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yeah [05-Oct-21 06:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: how much/U [05-Oct-21 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: I need PT and EXO, anyone that can sell me in bulk? [05-Oct-21 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Define bulk [05-Oct-21 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I could dedicate a BMP to either for a day or so [05-Oct-21 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I have 30 EXO [05-Oct-21 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: and can also dedicate my BMP to EXO for a day as well [05-Oct-21 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Greetings. [05-Oct-21 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: would be helpful if one could search the chat. Not sure if someone answered to me asking about C. :/ [05-Oct-21 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: Okay 30 EXO sounds good [05-Oct-21 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: would take up to 50 [05-Oct-21 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: same goes for PT [05-Oct-21 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: if price is right =D [05-Oct-21 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I'd have to ship in some STL [05-Oct-21 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: how much do you have? lets talk tomorrow though [05-Oct-21 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: they will be done it 18 minuets [05-Oct-21 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arogonus** joined.* [05-Oct-21 11:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: good luck to us on this upcoming POPR [06-Oct-21 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: lets goo 600 pioneers!?! woo [06-Oct-21 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JaoriMelkins**: Greetings. [06-Oct-21 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: damn, +3.6k pio and 100% of them got employed? [06-Oct-21 07:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: 3.6k? i thought it was just 600 [06-Oct-21 07:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: idk am I reading this wrong? https://i.imgur.com/fzYGOg6.png {Embed} https://imgur.com/fzYGOg6 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ui5FDzu_lh7wzSEhWqHJJlw_w3GXaQe_tGym6uF5WrI/https/i.imgur.com/fzYGOg6.png [06-Oct-21 07:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: the graph only shows +600 [06-Oct-21 07:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: but it says "Change: 3,646" [06-Oct-21 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 231 PIO reserve pool sounds pretty good to me [06-Oct-21 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NOD_Not_Don** joined.* [06-Oct-21 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Is no one gonna grab my packages at HRT? I'm surprised [06-Oct-21 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: There we go! Thanks! [06-Oct-21 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I've got ~20h of idle SME time if anyone has ore they want smelted [06-Oct-21 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: well, 20h each on 3x SME [06-Oct-21 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: You're out of ALO? [06-Oct-21 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: yeah, until my full shipload arrives in 18h [06-Oct-21 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: You could smelt FE -> STL? [06-Oct-21 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: If you have a lot of oxygen [06-Oct-21 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I don't have any FE. I also don't really mind having a little bit of idle time. it's not ideal, but it's not the end of the world either [06-Oct-21 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: if you have the O, I'll trade you 4 FE for 2 STL [06-Oct-21 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: yeah, I've got O. sent you a PM [06-Oct-21 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I too am out of ALO and FEO [06-Oct-21 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: sad times at orange fabs [06-Oct-21 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: @thejeffcooper I'm going to put your order up [06-Oct-21 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yea need FEO and ALO [06-Oct-21 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'll have ALO to sell tomorrow if y'all are interested [06-Oct-21 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: as long as you don't scalp like yesplease :P [06-Oct-21 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ALO.IC1 [06-Oct-21 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: how much do you need? [06-Oct-21 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: well I just gave in and bought some at 149 despite not wanting to pay that much [06-Oct-21 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: has anyone got a link to that site that lets you search for planets? [06-Oct-21 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: https://fio.fnar.net/planetsearch. [06-Oct-21 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: ta [06-Oct-21 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'll have a bunch of ALO on-planet tomorrow (370 minus whatever I keep) [06-Oct-21 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: the PSL should be done in 26 hours btw [06-Oct-21 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'll also have ~70 FEO in a few days.. someone else is shipping that, so I don't know when [06-Oct-21 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: nice - depends on your price but I may well take some off your hands because the price at market is pissing me off :D [06-Oct-21 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I need to go move to the perfect ALO and C planet :D [06-Oct-21 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: hmmm can I take 30 of the ALO and 12 FEO [06-Oct-21 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Seeing as how I keep messing up the calculation How much hydrogen do I need for 8 carbon [06-Oct-21 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: to do what? [06-Oct-21 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: PE [06-Oct-21 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: 16 [06-Oct-21 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: ty [06-Oct-21 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: 2:1 for pe 1:1:1 with MG for PG [06-Oct-21 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Then I need 15 hydrogen [06-Oct-21 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: anyone? [06-Oct-21 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Nevermind can't afford it [06-Oct-21 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: sorry, had a meeting. for ALO, is 110/u good? That's a ~25% discount vs current asking price on the CX, plus I deliver (to Avalon only) [06-Oct-21 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: @msorange @kyzekk [06-Oct-21 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Unless someone wants 2 BDE [06-Oct-21 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I'll take some - it'll work out cheaper than flying somewhere :) [06-Oct-21 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: How many do you want? [06-Oct-21 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Was that in reference to the ALO or the FEO? [06-Oct-21 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Also, same price for FEO (@kyzekk) [06-Oct-21 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: For the FEO I can't promise a better timeline than 6d, though I suspect it'll be here much sooner [06-Oct-21 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ALO will be here in 13h, and I'll be awake a few hours after that to unload it [06-Oct-21 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: ALO mostly - FEO is luxury for when I setting that ALO and C planet ;) [06-Oct-21 06:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: cool, how much? [06-Oct-21 06:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: when will auctions be closed? [07-Oct-21 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I've got ALO for sale. 110/u, immediate delivery [07-Oct-21 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: also, I'm heading to the CX soon if anyone has packages they want to post [07-Oct-21 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: last call for cargo. ship departing in a few minutes, unless I get distracted [07-Oct-21 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: shall I put a buy ad up Mr Cooper? [07-Oct-21 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: please do [07-Oct-21 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: ooo just going to put a smallish add up as someone actually fulfilled my CX order - so I'll stick with 24 for now - but will no doubt be back for more :D [07-Oct-21 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: sounds good :) [07-Oct-21 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'm planning to have a relatively steady supply in the near future [07-Oct-21 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I'll concentrate on my Carbon Campaign then :D seeing as SmartDog is manipulating the price :P [07-Oct-21 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I'm off out to a goth festival tonigh - your PSL will be ready in 5 hours - I may remember to fulfil it whilst drunk when I get back in [07-Oct-21 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: if I never login again assume I died of goth cooties [07-Oct-21 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: and name a shit planet after me [07-Oct-21 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: hahaha [07-Oct-21 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: enjoy :) [07-Oct-21 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: does anyone need FLX? [07-Oct-21 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: yep [07-Oct-21 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: lol [07-Oct-21 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: do you still want ALO? [07-Oct-21 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yup [07-Oct-21 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: how much? [07-Oct-21 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: how much FLX you need? [07-Oct-21 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: because I dont have alot of money curently [07-Oct-21 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I think what you just sold me is good for the moment (I'm also short on cash), but I've got a ship full of stuff to sell arriving at the CX tonight [07-Oct-21 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ah [07-Oct-21 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: alrighty [07-Oct-21 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: If you expect money coming in, I can make it a longer contract for only a small fee :) [07-Oct-21 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ie, I can deliver now and you can have a while to pay [07-Oct-21 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: nah I have nothing but the FLX to sale for right now [07-Oct-21 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: waiting to fill up my ship [07-Oct-21 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: once my cash situation stabilizes I'm probably good for at least 40 FLX [07-Oct-21 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: and then probably more on an ongoing basis, since I'm running a bunch of SMEs [07-Oct-21 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Anyonne have 16 hydrogen? [07-Oct-21 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: no H, sorry :( [07-Oct-21 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anyone have LST available? [07-Oct-21 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Okay anyone at the CX? [07-Oct-21 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I will be in a few hours [07-Oct-21 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: k [07-Oct-21 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: can you bring back the hydrogen if I buy it? [07-Oct-21 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: sure [07-Oct-21 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: how much? [07-Oct-21 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'll need some space on my ship, but not a ton [07-Oct-21 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: er, not a lot. more than 1t :P [07-Oct-21 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: 1.12? [07-Oct-21 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I was worried you were going to want a whole 500m^3 of H or something [07-Oct-21 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Would you like to wait till you get there for the contract or do you want to do it now [07-Oct-21 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I can take the contract now [07-Oct-21 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: that way I don't forget [07-Oct-21 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: How much do you want? [07-Oct-21 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: we can do the standard rate of 4/t with a minimum of 100 ICA? [07-Oct-21 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: so I guess that would be 100ICA, since you're shipping a small amount [07-Oct-21 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: So 100 ICA? [07-Oct-21 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: yep [07-Oct-21 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I think I did it right? [07-Oct-21 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: you did! [07-Oct-21 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I've got your shipment, and I'll bring it back with me [07-Oct-21 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: not sure on an exact ETA, but should be within 24h [07-Oct-21 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: ty [07-Oct-21 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anyone have GL, LST, PG, or PE for sale? [07-Oct-21 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: How much PE? [07-Oct-21 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: depends on your price. Buying in multiples of 35 [07-Oct-21 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Unfortunately I think I may have 21 PE I can sell [07-Oct-21 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ah, oh well. no worries [07-Oct-21 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: @talmar do you have the LST you listed on hand? [07-Oct-21 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: anyone have any FEO? [07-Oct-21 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I will in a few days. not sure exactly how many; still waiting to hear from the shipper [07-Oct-21 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ah [07-Oct-21 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ok [07-Oct-21 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: wooo I only have 1 ICA [07-Oct-21 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: lol, better get a little cash before your next order starts! [07-Oct-21 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yeah I should have some soon. [07-Oct-21 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **sdlouisee**: anyone need anything shipped back from hrt? I have room still for 500m3/500t [07-Oct-21 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Regardless, just posted 3 packages for whoever [07-Oct-21 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **sdlouisee**: didn't leave yet, normally I fly for 10h or so # [07-Oct-21 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Great [07-Oct-21 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: @sdlousiee that ship leave yet? [07-Oct-21 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: If not, how fast you going? [07-Oct-21 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: going to HRT anyone want any packages taken with me? [07-Oct-21 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: nevermind ship has left [07-Oct-21 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: please accept the contracts that you won, and post a sell ad for 1 DW with the total amount I owe you respectively [07-Oct-21 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: I have not sent messages detailing how much the govenrment owes the winners, I will do so tomorrow in case the ads are not of the correct amount! [07-Oct-21 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: congratulations to all the winners, here's to more successful future auctions! [07-Oct-21 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: Furthermore, I'd like to resuest that you post the sell ads for DW with a time period of at least 1 week so I can gather the money to pay you [07-Oct-21 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: if you feel like giving the government a deadline of 20 days to repay you, that would very much be appreciated! [07-Oct-21 06:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Yeah, Dragonican was pointing out that a second SST using only DW would be more cost effective than using DW+OFF on our one. [07-Oct-21 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Presumably after a few levels that stops being the case. [07-Oct-21 06:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: Yes, why are you putting things up for AIC? we don't use that shit here [07-Oct-21 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: Hi all! [07-Oct-21 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UuAA1XMuxFqgAX2HfYzlqp80S2lO3ufu-wV2jUzTujA/edit#gid=82951646 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UuAA1XMuxFqgAX2HfYzlqp80S2lO3ufu-wV2jUzTujA/edit Kingdom Of Avalon Wealth Administration Governance Sheet Dashboard designed by yesplease GOVERNMENT OF AVALON ,CHANGELOG Link: https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Jq4LLH1phl2JLrXhseQTBmVfPnnEoU_xHWF5ndzidas/https/lh4.googleusercontent.com/FgPi73TgGSRC3kwWZK69F_nA9-Gvislu4vjAlwWLPGClmqd93LHT1QymRSQkD8qbS4BmHrcVC36t3w%3Dw1200-h630-p [07-Oct-21 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: results for the previous 2 procurements are out already [07-Oct-21 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: I've posted the contracts for the winners [07-Oct-21 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: In the meantime, I'd like to take in ideas on what we should procure next. I believe Dragonican wanted to build a nother upgrade to our SST? [07-Oct-21 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: keep in mind that we'll be paying at least 30K or more in tax income to IKO for their loan for our eletcornics [07-Oct-21 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yes, i think that after debts have been settled, another SST should be the next thing we look at [07-Oct-21 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: and we should also probably take a vote for how aggressively Avalon should tax in the long term; enough to sustain upkeeps, enough to build a POPI every month, or various points in between [07-Oct-21 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: For reference, could someone calculate what the upkeep would work out to in fees? [07-Oct-21 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: not really; we can only guess how much of the recent tax week was contributed from production fees, and go from there [07-Oct-21 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: mm, i guess if someone used FIO, they could count how much were paid in LM and WAR fees, and then guess how many building/days were run during the tax cycle. but even then, amount of BUI on Avalon will change [07-Oct-21 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Anybody need ALO? I've got plenty but I need cash [07-Oct-21 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: or does anyone need AL? [07-Oct-21 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Altura16**: how much for 10 AL ? [07-Oct-21 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: AL.IC1 [07-Oct-21 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: 450/u ? [07-Oct-21 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Altura16**: 425 [07-Oct-21 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ugh, just looked and I don't actually have any on hand. I have 15 available in 5.5h, but I'll be asleep then [07-Oct-21 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I can do 410/u if you can wait 12h for delivery [07-Oct-21 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Altura16**: OK. put the order up and i can pay now [07-Oct-21 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: awesome. thanks! [07-Oct-21 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: posted [07-Oct-21 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Altura16**: no worries [07-Oct-21 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: also, anyone need anything brought back from the CX? [07-Oct-21 11:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Argh, I keep forgetting to enable autoprovision on my sell ads [07-Oct-21 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I didn't think you could do that [08-Oct-21 02:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: autoprovision is only on shipping ads [08-Oct-21 04:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: okay! I should have contracts signed with everyone except @MsOrange [08-Oct-21 04:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: furthermore, the L-fab suppliers just passed me the L-fabs yesterday morning, and my ships picked it up yesterday night. It's making its journey down to Hortus now! [08-Oct-21 07:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Oh, really? Well then I guess I'm not forgetting [08-Oct-21 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: Who was selling Flux? [08-Oct-21 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I think @kyzekk [08-Oct-21 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: ah well I'd be interested in buying some if the price is right :D [08-Oct-21 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: also, anyone need bfabs or lfabs? I've got a stock of basically everything [08-Oct-21 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: @yesplease why import lfabs to avalon from outside Hortus? I thought we had good prices here [08-Oct-21 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: its who won the bid, i believe [08-Oct-21 11:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: oh, ok [08-Oct-21 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: is anyone looking for FEO? [08-Oct-21 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I just got a bunch delivered to HRT. Figured I'd ask here if anyone wants it before putting it on the CX [08-Oct-21 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: No, but if you want to smelt it, I might buy FE [08-Oct-21 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: anyone have COF for sale [08-Oct-21 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: yep, some people in Benten won the bids [08-Oct-21 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: ngl, they helped lower the price by quite a bit [08-Oct-21 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: am selling FLX how much you want? [08-Oct-21 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: and for how much? [08-Oct-21 06:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: @kyzekk were you interested in FEO? [08-Oct-21 07:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: Yup [08-Oct-21 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Do you have any RAT Dragon? [08-Oct-21 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: @kyzekk how much? PM me (here or on discord); I'm on mobile atm [08-Oct-21 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I have 67 u [08-Oct-21 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: @TheSmithAries , im pretty sure there are alot of rat producers on here , if u throw up an ad im sure someone will take it [09-Oct-21 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yes, i do have plenty of RAT; sorry i couldnt catch you [09-Oct-21 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anyone need bfabs (or lfabs) before I haul a bunch off to the CX? [09-Oct-21 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: also, anyone have cargo that they need hauled avalon -> cx? I've got ~60m3/70t available, fast burn [09-Oct-21 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***vv85** joined.* [09-Oct-21 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Maces**: Hello! [09-Oct-21 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Welcome! [09-Oct-21 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Maces**: guys I forgot OVE, anyone has some? [09-Oct-21 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I just shipped almost all of mine - I will have some in a day. Are you totally out? [09-Oct-21 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Maces**: yup [09-Oct-21 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Maces**: I'll be fine with 5-10 [09-Oct-21 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I literally have 3, so I'm afraid I can't help [09-Oct-21 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Maces**: @Dragonican! [09-Oct-21 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Maces**: thanks! [09-Oct-21 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maces** joined.* [09-Oct-21 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: how much for 100 OVE? [09-Oct-21 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: @kyzekk I have that FEO on planet it you want it [09-Oct-21 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: How much did you want? [09-Oct-21 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: 30 would be good [09-Oct-21 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ad is up. [09-Oct-21 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: thanks! [09-Oct-21 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Let me know if you need more! [09-Oct-21 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: will do! [09-Oct-21 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Anyone selling FLX ? [09-Oct-21 09:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: i have like 20 flx arriving in 5 hours [09-Oct-21 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I've got a ship at the CX. I can just buy some. Thanks though! [09-Oct-21 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anyone have anything at HRT that they need brought to avalon? [09-Oct-21 10:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Just posted 135t, yeah [09-Oct-21 10:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: got it. just the one? [09-Oct-21 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: still have ~185t left [09-Oct-21 10:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Yeah, I think that's all for now, thanks [09-Oct-21 10:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: no problem. leaving now [09-Oct-21 10:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: 15h flight time [10-Oct-21 12:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I have 25 FLX rn [10-Oct-21 12:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ad for FLX is up [10-Oct-21 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: don't worry fellow Avalonians - I am not dead yet. I more day of Goth City festival to go so there's still time! [10-Oct-21 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: @Maces, you get your OVE? [10-Oct-21 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Maces**: yes, I did [10-Oct-21 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: @Goth City is a music festival, and not medeival druidic cosplay, @MsOrange? [10-Oct-21 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***P.F** joined.* [10-Oct-21 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Infinitium** joined.* [10-Oct-21 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: wahoo! [10-Oct-21 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: big tax ! [10-Oct-21 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: we just barely broke 100 K [10-Oct-21 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Yaay [10-Oct-21 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: still deep in debt tho [10-Oct-21 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: 285 K in debt, future upkeeps for the CoGC notwithstanding [10-Oct-21 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: Welcome @Maces! [10-Oct-21 09:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: woooooooo [10-Oct-21 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: anyone have something in benten want something shipped back to HRT? [11-Oct-21 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: happy to see we wont be in debt for a full year :D [11-Oct-21 07:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Coconut_Boy** joined.* [11-Oct-21 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Anyone selling FF? [11-Oct-21 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: always [11-Oct-21 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: post an ad @9 [11-Oct-21 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: great! [11-Oct-21 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: :3 [11-Oct-21 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: \o/ [11-Oct-21 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Whoo! [11-Oct-21 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Already voted FI [11-Oct-21 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Y'all better not let PIO win [11-Oct-21 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: just put FI in first place with my meager votes [11-Oct-21 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: also, I don't get any direct benefit from FI, so I hope y'all will make good on cheap RAT/DW being available :) [11-Oct-21 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I'm planning to pivot if it wins, but none yet [11-Oct-21 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i can give you cheap RAT and DW right now, and even cheaper then :) my 4th FI expert arrived in the same hour the COGC went up [11-Oct-21 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: hmm, very soon I'm going to have all the parts for my second base, but no goods to sell and not enough money to buy consumables for them [11-Oct-21 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: so that's interesting [11-Oct-21 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: and by "interesting" I mean "evidence of my poor planning" [11-Oct-21 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: uh oh I don't have enough money to post an ad to get money [11-Oct-21 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: what are you selling? [11-Oct-21 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: bde [11-Oct-21 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ill buy 3, how much do they cost? [11-Oct-21 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: 1100 each [11-Oct-21 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: posted, now you can have some money ^^ [11-Oct-21 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: It says my company's rating is insufficient [11-Oct-21 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ah, sorry, i set them all to A by habit [11-Oct-21 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: np [11-Oct-21 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Thank you for the bailout [11-Oct-21 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Going to the CX anyone want me to take anything? 498.5 m3 left [11-Oct-21 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: if you could grab my cargo back to avalon on the return trip, I'd appreciate it [11-Oct-21 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: How fast? [11-Oct-21 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: 6.5 - 7 hours [11-Oct-21 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ah, ive got things [11-Oct-21 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: just posted another avalon -> HRT package too [11-Oct-21 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Whoops I just excepted the wrong one [11-Oct-21 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheSmithAries** deleted this message.* [11-Oct-21 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Could you cancel the HRT -> Avalon one? [11-Oct-21 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: you cant cancel if its been accepted [11-Oct-21 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: are you not coming back to avalon after the CX? [11-Oct-21 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: no [11-Oct-21 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: oh :( [11-Oct-21 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Oh wait you mean you can wait till I go there and come back? [11-Oct-21 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: yeah, I figured you would do avalon -> HRT and then HRT -> avalon [11-Oct-21 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I can do that [11-Oct-21 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: awesome [11-Oct-21 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Off we go [11-Oct-21 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: so, to give everyone the rundown on the SST coming into effect on wednesday: we have only fed it DW, so its operating at 1/3 power. due to the moving average effect, it will only have 40% influence on the displayed values. so, i expect our PIO needs to still be mainly met, but feeding it super cheap DW will keep our PIO growth strong for a while longer [11-Oct-21 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Do you mean it will be 40% of 1/3? [11-Oct-21 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yep [11-Oct-21 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: the weight-amounts are 0.4, 0.25, 0.2, 0.1, 0.05 [11-Oct-21 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: week 1, 40%, week 2, 65%, week 3, 85%. its pretty close to full effect by week 3 [11-Oct-21 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i think i actually might have made an error... checking this with the professionals [11-Oct-21 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: the alternative is "safety isnt averaged and will show in full effect on wednesday" [11-Oct-21 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yeah... scratch the average thing. does not apply for safety [11-Oct-21 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: oh, nice [11-Oct-21 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: however, the happiness from the increased safety will follow the above average [11-Oct-21 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: if that makes sense [11-Oct-21 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Ah. So does the safety increase actually do anything other than the happiness, anyway? [11-Oct-21 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I guess it matters for health capping? [11-Oct-21 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: health and safety are on the same tier and dont cap each other [11-Oct-21 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: its mostly all about happiness, but happiness is very important [11-Oct-21 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Oh ok. I thought it was all in order [11-Oct-21 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: So what should the safety % be wednesday? And the happiness? [11-Oct-21 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: its near impossible to estimate, given we dont have a good indicator of how many PIO jobs opened up etc. [11-Oct-21 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: what i could tell you on wednesday is what our true happiness is, and estimate how many more PIOs we could support [11-Oct-21 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: the 4 tiers are: (Life Support) ( Safety & Health) (Comfort & Culture) (Education) btw [11-Oct-21 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I see [11-Oct-21 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: But we do expect the safety % increase to be significant? [11-Oct-21 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: no, as in less than 10% [11-Oct-21 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Hmm. Thus your recommendation of a 2nd tier of SST immediately? [11-Oct-21 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i recommend we continue to build POPI as there is nothing else the govt money should go to, and the quicker the SST the more we save on consumables. [11-Oct-21 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: given the knowledge we have on POPI, a "build order" approach to POPI seems suitable. one comes after the other, as soon as possible [11-Oct-21 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Yeah. Though I believe we have debt owed first. [11-Oct-21 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yes, my exact proposition was "SST2 right after the debt is paid" [11-Oct-21 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: we will need to debate how agressively we should tax to construct POPI, though it seems pretty simple what the govt should do with the collected tax money [11-Oct-21 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: right. Do you think it may be worth using OFF in the meantime, if we still have open jobs after POPR? [11-Oct-21 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: open jobs actually shows how many were open the moment before the growth tick [11-Oct-21 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Oh, that's misleading [11-Oct-21 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: we had ~2310 excess PIO as the POPR finished [11-Oct-21 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: What about unemployment %? [11-Oct-21 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: unemployment is before growth, and affects how much we grow by [11-Oct-21 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Does the excess include reserve? [11-Oct-21 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: excess = reserve * 10 [11-Oct-21 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: they are directly related [11-Oct-21 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: this is only the case when theres not a shortage... if we run out of PIO, PIO will be "stolen" from some players and put in the pool [11-Oct-21 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: well, i think if PIO starts getting stolen then there is no excess... [11-Oct-21 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: so excess = reserve * 10 should always be true [11-Oct-21 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Hmm, ok. I thought there was a reserve even if we were short [11-Oct-21 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: there will always be at least 1 in reserve, due to some rounding stuff :) [11-Oct-21 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: montem has been dealing with no reserve due to lack of PIO [11-Oct-21 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Hmm. Are they trying to build SST's too? [11-Oct-21 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yes, i think they built 2 SST in the first week the problem occurred [11-Oct-21 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i think i forgot to say this aloud, but to answer an earlier question, last POPR we consumed 9325.05 safety. an SST with only DW provides 833.33 safety. i think that should put the increase into perspective? [11-Oct-21 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Yes, that does help, thanks. [11-Oct-21 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: Safety is .25 of a PIO's total happiness, so 10% safety increase = 2.5% happiness increase for a PIO [11-Oct-21 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: and the big number is keeping Happiness about 3-4% abouve 71% at a minimum, imo [11-Oct-21 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Ah, because migration is relative to 70%, right? [11-Oct-21 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yep, and about 1.5% of PIO will educate to settler, modified by SET happiness [11-Oct-21 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: so staying a bit above that break point will keep the new PIOs coming in. [11-Oct-21 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheSmithAries** deleted this message.* [11-Oct-21 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Any RAT Dragon? [11-Oct-21 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: plenty! [11-Oct-21 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: tell me how much you need and ill set it up [11-Oct-21 11:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Leroivincent** joined.* [12-Oct-21 03:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: @dragonican what's your wholesale price for RAT? Going to need one or two hundred in the next few days (plus the same amount of DW if you've got it) [12-Oct-21 04:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i can do RAT@44 and DW@33 for now. i know its not much better than the CX, but prices are already super low [12-Oct-21 04:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: awesome. I may have overestimated how much I need.. probably looking at about 100 each for now [12-Oct-21 04:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'll poke you in a day or two when I have the cash [12-Oct-21 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: @aries when do you expect the cargo from HRT to be back? [12-Oct-21 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***0667** joined.* [12-Oct-21 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: does anyone here make MCG? [12-Oct-21 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I do [12-Oct-21 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: what's your price /u? I need about 350 [12-Oct-21 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: 22 [12-Oct-21 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: also, are you interested in more FEO? I still have some (though it's at the CX right now) [12-Oct-21 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: Nah im good for now [12-Oct-21 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I only have 200 rn just waiting on some LST [12-Oct-21 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I can't afford it right now anyways :P [12-Oct-21 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: Oof alright [12-Oct-21 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I have some LST I can sell you if you want. or give it to you in exchange for the corresponding discount on MCG [12-Oct-21 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: That could work. Am on mobile and about to go to class but will be back in 2 hours [12-Oct-21 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: sounds good to me [12-Oct-21 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **stanley_yelnatsIII**: I am a little low on DW got an add on LM for 30 units [12-Oct-21 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **stanley_yelnatsIII**: if anyone could sell me a couple would be much appreciated [12-Oct-21 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Anyone have stuff to send to HRT? Thinking about sending a ship [12-Oct-21 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: HRT -> Avalon, overnight flight, departing soon. post those contracts [12-Oct-21 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: also sending avalon -> HRT; 197t / 430m3 available [12-Oct-21 09:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: anyone need some fabs? [12-Oct-21 09:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I have LBH and BSE [12-Oct-21 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: how will you give those prefabs without pro account? [12-Oct-21 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: he was offering to anyone with pro [12-Oct-21 11:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yeah [12-Oct-21 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: can also give them to someone with basic as well [12-Oct-21 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: or sell them [12-Oct-21 11:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: anyone have lst ? [12-Oct-21 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: how much you need? [12-Oct-21 11:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I have 7 I can sell ya for 700 ICA [12-Oct-21 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: sure [12-Oct-21 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: can we communally ban using CIS or AIC on the LM :facepalm: [13-Oct-21 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: no I'm one ICA sort to post the ad [13-Oct-21 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: noooo [13-Oct-21 12:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i could buy a couple bfabs. what've'ya got? [13-Oct-21 12:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: i posted it kyzekk [13-Oct-21 12:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: but im not paying what u asked for [13-Oct-21 12:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: lmao [13-Oct-21 12:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: thanks [13-Oct-21 12:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I have BSE and LBH 4 of each for sale. [13-Oct-21 12:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ill take all the BSE [13-Oct-21 12:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: how much you willing to pay? 750/u good? [13-Oct-21 12:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yeah thats fine [13-Oct-21 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: as is up [13-Oct-21 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ad* [13-Oct-21 02:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 4 BDE anyone? [13-Oct-21 02:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: im looking to buy [13-Oct-21 02:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I have 4 [13-Oct-21 02:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: thank you sir, thats my base wrapped up here for now [13-Oct-21 02:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: nice [13-Oct-21 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: Any ALO anyone wants to be selling? [13-Oct-21 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: If anyone is flying back from Prom, I have an ad up there for a shipment, 200t, 1K ICA [13-Oct-21 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: boo no I'm at the station [13-Oct-21 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: how much MCG for a CM - is it 4 per m2? so 100? [13-Oct-21 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: pretty sure it's 100 [13-Oct-21 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i have lots of DW and RAT for anyone who want to buy ^^ [13-Oct-21 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I madly overstocked at the CX the other day and now I'm like 'guys! eat faster!' [13-Oct-21 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: if this FI COGC comes to pass, ill have even more RAT and DW for everyone :) [13-Oct-21 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: you can never have too many consumables! [13-Oct-21 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: @msorange I can get a shipload of ALO if you're willing to pay enough [13-Oct-21 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'm going to hopefully have a semiregular supply of ALO coming to avalon starting next week [13-Oct-21 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: @kyzekk - are you still looking for LST, and can you still sell me MCG? I need 360 I think [13-Oct-21 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: also sending a ship from HRT -> avalon in a few hours, so post contracts if you have cargo to ship [13-Oct-21 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: right now it's empty [13-Oct-21 07:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yeah am still looking for LST. [13-Oct-21 07:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I have 200 MCG that I can sell you [13-Oct-21 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: What's your rate for MCG again? And how much LST do you need? [13-Oct-21 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: (it looks like lordcirth put some LST on the LM) [13-Oct-21 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I sell MCG for 22/u [13-Oct-21 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: do you have LST on hand? [13-Oct-21 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Yeah, some. [13-Oct-21 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: awesome want to trade LST for some MCG? [13-Oct-21 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I do ned some money as well [13-Oct-21 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Sure. I have 20 LST I can spare [13-Oct-21 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: How much MCG will that get me? LST.IC1 [13-Oct-21 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: 83 MGC [13-Oct-21 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: and the rest of the MCG for 2574 [13-Oct-21 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Is that for the full 360 or just the 200 you have on hand? Sorry, I'm on my phone right now and can't do the math [13-Oct-21 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I have 200 total 83 for the LST and 117 for the 2574 [13-Oct-21 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I don't have any more on hand unfortunately [13-Oct-21 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Ah okay. I'll put up a buy for the 200 @ 2574 and you put up a buy for the LST @ 1? [13-Oct-21 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yeah [13-Oct-21 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: awesome thanks! [13-Oct-21 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Thank you! [13-Oct-21 08:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: last call for anyone who wants me to bring something from the CX [13-Oct-21 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: oh I have a lot of stuff to bring back. how much? [13-Oct-21 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ship is empty [13-Oct-21 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: standard rate [13-Oct-21 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: glad I waited :) [13-Oct-21 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: how much for price I mean? [13-Oct-21 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: (standard rate being the greater of 4/m^3, 4/t, or 100 ICA) [13-Oct-21 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: k give ma a moment to post the ads, how soon will the sip get back? [13-Oct-21 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: between 12 and 16 hours, depending on when I wake up to unload it :P [13-Oct-21 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: probably closer to 12h [13-Oct-21 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: kk [13-Oct-21 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: does it say how much an order will weigh? [13-Oct-21 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: no, you have to do that manually [13-Oct-21 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: unfortunatelly [13-Oct-21 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: the weight of an individual unit is on the MAT page for the material [13-Oct-21 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: and thats the last of it [13-Oct-21 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: great. got all 6. gonna get a bit of fuel and thenhead out [13-Oct-21 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: awesome! [13-Oct-21 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: 12h13m flight time [13-Oct-21 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: and I should be at a computer to unload it right when it lands [13-Oct-21 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: awesome! thanks! now I dont have to make the trip myself [13-Oct-21 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: and now I can afford fuel. it's a win-win :P [13-Oct-21 09:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: woo [14-Oct-21 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: @stanley Farms, check your messages [14-Oct-21 11:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Maces**: 2 BDE anyone? [14-Oct-21 11:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: @maces you double-posted your ad on the LM [14-Oct-21 11:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: just FYI [14-Oct-21 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'd help you out if I could, but don't have any BDE to spare [14-Oct-21 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: (or any at all, for that matter) [14-Oct-21 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Maces**: I need 4 units ;) [14-Oct-21 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheYeetster** joined.* [14-Oct-21 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: anyone have 5 O to available to sell to me? [14-Oct-21 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: heh, I have exactly 5 [14-Oct-21 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: so sure [14-Oct-21 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: O.IC1 [14-Oct-21 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: do you want to post the ad or should I? [14-Oct-21 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: can you? [14-Oct-21 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: sure [14-Oct-21 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: thanks!! [14-Oct-21 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: np [14-Oct-21 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **sdlouisee**: Anyone need something brought back from HRT? I have 428m3/340t space left, overnight flight [14-Oct-21 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I'm there too - we should socialise in the CX bar :D [14-Oct-21 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Maces**: Guys I would love to get some bbh/bde [14-Oct-21 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I just sold my last two BBH that I had in stock. I'll have more in a few hours [14-Oct-21 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: (oh, hah, I sold them to you) [14-Oct-21 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Maces**: @thejeffcooper yes, you did, thanks [14-Oct-21 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I just accepted a contract for 2 more. I'll have one more a few hours after that, but no more [14-Oct-21 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: shutting down my PP2s for a few days [14-Oct-21 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: unless you have AL, in which case I can make as many BBH as you want [14-Oct-21 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **sdlouisee**: I will have BDE to sell tomorrow but right now I'm out of stock unfortunately [14-Oct-21 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Maces**: sure, ads are up for the taking [14-Oct-21 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I have one BDE jeff if you want it [14-Oct-21 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: @armorlord the COGC is intentionally empty for this first week, we agreed to not fuel it as we cant decide on which bonus we get on the first week [14-Oct-21 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: expect it to turn on as soon as the vote concludes [14-Oct-21 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: selling RAT@44 and DW @33 on LM, pm me for orders [14-Oct-21 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: ty [14-Oct-21 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i hope you enjoy the taste of SCR in your RATs ^^ [14-Oct-21 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Builds character [14-Oct-21 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: mmmm eggy [14-Oct-21 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: it was @Maces that wanted the BDE not Jeff [14-Oct-21 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: am I supposed to be voting on something? [14-Oct-21 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: how exciting [14-Oct-21 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: you can vote on the COGC program [14-Oct-21 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I have - I have also ascertained my INFLUENCE [14-Oct-21 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: it is LOW :D [14-Oct-21 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: id call it "middling"; not *that* low [14-Oct-21 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: it's a little more than twice mine :) [14-Oct-21 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: and I'm considering tearing down some of my buildings in the next few weeks (and replacing them, but likely not 1:1) [14-Oct-21 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I have to admit I'm not sure where my next level of development takes me - I'm off to start carbon farming to support what I do already but I've not really given much thought to the beyond of that [14-Oct-21 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: anyhoo good night Avachums [14-Oct-21 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: okay, I'm gambling my company on this venture, but I've just launched a ship with all the supplies for a mining base on deimos [14-Oct-21 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I should be back to avalon in about a week with a full shipload of ALO [14-Oct-21 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: and in theory with another full shipload every ~5 days after that [15-Oct-21 01:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Altura16**: If you are going to EXT ALO on Deimos then maybe you should SME it there as well. [15-Oct-21 01:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ^ i think hauling the AL instead would make for a denser shipment. youd also get to use the metallurgy COGC on Deimos [15-Oct-21 04:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Piss** joined.* [15-Oct-21 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: Planing ahead for my next base, what would be better in the long run. Moria on Mortem or Vallis, lesser farming but FEO and H/LST, or going local and Promitor, great farming but only later game HAL and N? [15-Oct-21 05:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: Leaning towards Promitor, C is high in both systems and with DW och RAT at high enough degree i would be self sustaining. [15-Oct-21 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: My plan long term is to smelt on Deimos too, but short term I can't afford it [15-Oct-21 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: LST is up on the LM for 6 below CXP. Go get it [15-Oct-21 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: did the game just crash horribly or did I bug it out by pressing the create base button when I didn't have a ship there? [15-Oct-21 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: It's been a little crashy today. I wonder if they're doing server work [15-Oct-21 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: ah yeah they're restarting soon good because everyone was turning into 'hydration timeout' [15-Oct-21 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: which may be a subtle way of tempting me into beer [15-Oct-21 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mcHAMR1** joined.* [15-Oct-21 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Why wait to have beer [15-Oct-21 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: @yesplease is making a bid, it seems, to change Avalon's currency to AIC, judging by the shipping contracts [15-Oct-21 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: wooo just got a chem expert [15-Oct-21 09:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: nice, even more FLX [15-Oct-21 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yup!! [15-Oct-21 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I have over 100 I need to sell [15-Oct-21 11:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Altura16**: AIC is about as useful as Doge [15-Oct-21 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yeah [15-Oct-21 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I also think it might be all they have left as money. [16-Oct-21 12:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: @yesplease Why do you keep spamming the LM with ads for AIC? or some other money, instead of ICA? No one wants that crap money here. [16-Oct-21 01:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Altura16**: and he/she is the Governor !!! [16-Oct-21 01:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: He's probably trying to dump that shit, and hopes no one will notice, and take the contract. [16-Oct-21 05:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: *shrug* I had the free space, so I took it [16-Oct-21 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: why are you all so worked up about it tho? [16-Oct-21 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: I post ads in AIC, because I use ICA to float the Government debt [16-Oct-21 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: so I end up with a surplus of AIC and a shortage of ICA [16-Oct-21 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: Like, if you want to take the MAG shipping ads and need payment in ICA, you can let me know and I'll post an ad specifically for you [16-Oct-21 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: but if people are good with AIC then it's free market time babey [16-Oct-21 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: I'm aware that some people use AIC to import things like ALO from Antares, am I wrong on that front? [16-Oct-21 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I certainly have [16-Oct-21 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: hi all [16-Oct-21 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: hi [16-Oct-21 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 1000/1000 RAT/DW available, priced at 40/33ea. put up buy orders for the above and ill fill any volume i can [16-Oct-21 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: So, how many people ended up mining the TS here? [16-Oct-21 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: if anybody did, i have questions for them [16-Oct-21 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: It seems that the TS here isn't great, but there's no other T1 with it? and most good TS is on double reds [16-Oct-21 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yes, itll matter a lot on next restart. avalon wont be "just a rock next to HRT" [16-Oct-21 06:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Flareside** joined.* [16-Oct-21 06:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: anyone need any LBH or BBH? [17-Oct-21 05:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: mining TS, diversifying my production poll. i have found it has basically the same profit margins as producing BSE. [17-Oct-21 05:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: It maybe not as profitable as extracting MAG, but is has more value to other players and therefore more valuable. Also, with "free" FF, trading goods in moria are now a valuable option [17-Oct-21 05:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Trimble** joined.* [17-Oct-21 07:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: erm cos I'm a luddite how does one find the promitor site owners chat - hells I can't even remember how I found this one [17-Oct-21 07:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: oh it popped up in my list [17-Oct-21 07:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: nvm :D :D [17-Oct-21 07:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: Don't worry I haven't gone - my existance on Prom is very sloooooow [17-Oct-21 07:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: the most exciting part was "oh f@@k will there actually be any plots by the time I get there" as it was down to 5 thankfully there wasn't an ill timed recruitment drive [17-Oct-21 07:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: they have a MsPurple on PRomitor. I feel... less unique [17-Oct-21 07:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I hope I don't trigger a turf/MAI war [17-Oct-21 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: I'm guessing a diamond heist with skinny black ties and colorful last names [17-Oct-21 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheItalianJordy** joined.* [17-Oct-21 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: woo just got my second metallurgy expert!!! [17-Oct-21 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dekthro** joined.* [17-Oct-21 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: okay, new tax income just dropped [17-Oct-21 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: should we be looking at an SST expansion? [17-Oct-21 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: not that we can _really_ afford it at the moment but if it's urgent we could do that, or temporarily consume OFF [17-Oct-21 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: OFF isn't hard to make. If it needs a boost, that's the cheaper alternative [17-Oct-21 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: MsOrange, if you need any help on Prom, let me know. I' [17-Oct-21 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I've been there since the start [17-Oct-21 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: So, I've had a buy ad for PG @ 18.5 up for a while now... Why's no one taking it? Is 1000 too big, do I need to split it? [17-Oct-21 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yeah [17-Oct-21 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: nobody is gonna have that mush on had right now I would think [17-Oct-21 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I guess 18.5k is a lot - I would have split but was in a rush. Ok, 3 ads for 300 up [17-Oct-21 09:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: anyone need FLX? [17-Oct-21 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: the SST can wait a while, i just believe it should be the "next" thing we do [17-Oct-21 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: for example, i think theres no reason to delay paying off debt for SST [17-Oct-21 11:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***The_person** joined.* [18-Oct-21 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Anyone sell STL here? [18-Oct-21 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: If you have the inputs (including rat/dw/ove), you can use my SMEs. my base here is in shutdown for a few more days otherwise [18-Oct-21 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: You are out of all inputs and consumables? [18-Oct-21 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: That would be a lot of small trades, how much STL can you make per day? [18-Oct-21 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: ah yes [18-Oct-21 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: DW is at 25 lets dump it even harder.... [18-Oct-21 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Whoo, FI went through! [18-Oct-21 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I've got 4x SMEs [18-Oct-21 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I have RAT/DW/OVE, actually. I've just stashed them in a warehouse so my workers can't get them [18-Oct-21 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I've got a bit of O as well, actually [18-Oct-21 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: the shutdown was intentional. I spent all of my cash setting up a second base to provide inputs for this base [18-Oct-21 10:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I see. So if I sell you FE, you could sell me STL? [18-Oct-21 10:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: yeah, though with 20 O I can only run three batches [18-Oct-21 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Hmm. Well, that wouldn't last me very long, and you'd have an SME idle. I'll just buy more from CX. Thanks [18-Oct-21 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: no worries [18-Oct-21 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I can make some OFF if we need - I can chuck 2 lots in the boiler right now [18-Oct-21 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: how do I constanly run out of C? I'm such a doofus [18-Oct-21 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: no need for OFF right now, the SST is working sufficiently with just DW [18-Oct-21 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I like to use my warehouse as a shopping list - usually works - I leave a couple of days worth of stuff there - for some reason C always sneaks up on me though [18-Oct-21 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: ooo Cheap C I love a bargain [18-Oct-21 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I always have fuel. If you need some, let me know. I've posted lots in the past, and no one was buying any of it [18-Oct-21 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: Do we need a patriotic 'buy Avalonian' campaign [18-Oct-21 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: ^ [18-Oct-21 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: buy from LM as is convenient, but focus on LM trading on a large scale has adverse affects on the local CX [18-Oct-21 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MysteryGil** joined.* [18-Oct-21 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: alrighty then, we'll hold off on SST expansions until the debt is paid off [18-Oct-21 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Anyone want any BDE before I take it to the CX? [19-Oct-21 03:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: do u still have some? ^ [19-Oct-21 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I do, if he doesn't [19-Oct-21 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Avalon -> HRT, ~12h, leaving in 15m [19-Oct-21 09:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lordcirth** deleted this message.* [19-Oct-21 09:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Gone [19-Oct-21 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Anyone want some ALO? I've got a ship coming in ~3d with plenty to spare [19-Oct-21 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: how much you need? [19-Oct-21 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: dang just bought a load [19-Oct-21 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anyone have cargo they need moved HRT -> avalon ? [19-Oct-21 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yea I do [19-Oct-21 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Ugh sorry, already left [19-Oct-21 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: oof alright [19-Oct-21 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: Ill just pick it up when I go next [19-Oct-21 08:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: HRT -> Avalon ~12h leaving in 15m [20-Oct-21 04:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: FF for sale on local, more on the way. [20-Oct-21 05:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: If anyone is going to HRT, the big shipping order up is SF, so I can bring prices down on CX a bit [20-Oct-21 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: fookin hell - all this talk of shipping - I took a prom -> ava contract and set off without it so had to land again [20-Oct-21 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I hate it when I do that [20-Oct-21 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: anyone have 6 bde on hand? [20-Oct-21 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yup [20-Oct-21 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I have 10 [20-Oct-21 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: 7.2k ok for 6? [20-Oct-21 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yeah [20-Oct-21 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: ad up [20-Oct-21 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: awesome [20-Oct-21 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: HRT -> Avalon, ~12h, leaving ~15m [20-Oct-21 10:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: gone [21-Oct-21 02:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Quil_Ekras** joined.* [21-Oct-21 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anyone making GL locally? [21-Oct-21 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: same question, but BDE [21-Oct-21 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: how much BDE do you need [21-Oct-21 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: im making BDE [21-Oct-21 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: the answer to that keeps changing, tbh, as I keep changing my plans [21-Oct-21 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Either 6 or 20 [21-Oct-21 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: what do y'all charge? [21-Oct-21 03:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: 1100 [21-Oct-21 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dosinius** joined.* [21-Oct-21 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I am making GL locally if you need some [21-Oct-21 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: @msorange what do you charge? [21-Oct-21 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: for planning purposes [21-Oct-21 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: also, I have a bunch of ALO on planet if anyone needs it [21-Oct-21 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I will probably want some GL soon [22-Oct-21 12:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I have fuel up on the LM for reasonable prices. [22-Oct-21 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I could do a mate's rate of 200 if that's acceptable [22-Oct-21 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: was it Bant I was holding on this stack of 16 MHLs for? now I'm on promitor I might send them over if they're not needed [22-Oct-21 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: @msorange would you accept ALO in trade? [22-Oct-21 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: obviously not 1:1 [22-Oct-21 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: 10 ALO for 4 GL? [22-Oct-21 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: sure why not [22-Oct-21 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: always got a use for alo. [22-Oct-21 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: so do I set up an ALO buy for 1 and you set up a glass buy for 1 - is that how we do these things [22-Oct-21 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: also I'd like to thank 2 days ago me for thinking that 4 in column A and 4 in column B meant 6 in column C [22-Oct-21 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: just got to promitor and am 2 BBH short for my expansion [22-Oct-21 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: ad is up - as is one on promitor for 2 BBH if anyone is over there and wants to help an orange out [22-Oct-21 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: aw someone did [22-Oct-21 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: GL buy ad is posted [22-Oct-21 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: sorry I wandered off to the world of pathfinder and a good long bath [22-Oct-21 06:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ooooo pathfinder [22-Oct-21 06:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: enjoying it apart from the puzzles - I like puzzles but these ones are a pain in the arse [22-Oct-21 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ooof [22-Oct-21 06:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: anyhoo night night kids - don't leave the planet in a mess [22-Oct-21 06:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: use coasters [22-Oct-21 06:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: okay ill burn everything to the gorund [22-Oct-21 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: can anyone local beat the CX for RAT/DW/OVE? [22-Oct-21 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: i'll beat it with two sucker punches and a haymaker to knock some sense into those priced :D [22-Oct-21 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: nah, anyone local doing what im doing (FPs) is losing huge money if they sell at those prices [22-Oct-21 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: fair enough [22-Oct-21 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: not actually losing, making like 50 profit a day or something [22-Oct-21 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anybody have cargo they need if I fly HRT -> Avalon overnight? [22-Oct-21 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yeah, ive got some stuff [22-Oct-21 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: great. I've got most of a ship free [22-Oct-21 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: only bringing back a few days of provisions [22-Oct-21 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: posted [22-Oct-21 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: sorry for delay [22-Oct-21 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: just the one? [22-Oct-21 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yeah, its a whooooole lot of DW for an order im pulling together [22-Oct-21 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: wow, that's 825 DW?? [22-Oct-21 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: woah [22-Oct-21 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: XD thats a fraction [22-Oct-21 07:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anybody else have cargo? [22-Oct-21 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: leaving in ~30m, unless I forget to click the button [22-Oct-21 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: post ads before then if you have them [22-Oct-21 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: last call [22-Oct-21 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: departed [23-Oct-21 04:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: looking to buy 30 glass at 200ea any one can do? [23-Oct-21 07:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NewGameWhoDis** joined.* [23-Oct-21 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: put up an add if you still need it assanova [23-Oct-21 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I have 35 hanging around [23-Oct-21 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: A bit of a yard sale on the LM, and an opportunity to get rid of your NCC (watch the currencies) [23-Oct-21 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: Carbon, cotton, raw cotton, RAT, coffee, cafeinated beans, EXO -- priced in NCC and ICA, while supplies last [23-Oct-21 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Anybody need BSE before I send them to the CX? [23-Oct-21 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ship leaving avalon -> HRT. post contracts if you have stuff [23-Oct-21 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: leaving in ~90m [23-Oct-21 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheDuuke** joined.* [23-Oct-21 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Last call for cargo to HRT [23-Oct-21 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: what is it with your palindromic prices Ray? [23-Oct-21 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: 2332 6006 7887 are we in an episode of Lost [23-Oct-21 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: FML - didn't check before flying off and I've left a hefty purchase of ALO at HRT [23-Oct-21 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: such a divvy [23-Oct-21 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: @msorange I can spot you some [23-Oct-21 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: And your can replace it or repay [23-Oct-21 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: *you can [23-Oct-21 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anyone selling LST locally? [23-Oct-21 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I do, but the current shipload is already sold [23-Oct-21 11:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: aw [23-Oct-21 11:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I sold some of mine because I wasn't thinking, then ran out [24-Oct-21 04:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: anyone have 2 PT? [24-Oct-21 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: @kyzekk I do, you still need it? [24-Oct-21 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I can sell you 20 @thejeffcooper if that will help [24-Oct-21 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I should be ok for ALO - got enough to feed my smelters til I go back to HRT [24-Oct-21 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gnargl** joined.* [24-Oct-21 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yeah [24-Oct-21 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: @lordcirth [24-Oct-21 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I put a couple up for sale - probs a bit late now [24-Oct-21 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I put some LST up too [24-Oct-21 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: awesome thanks [24-Oct-21 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: buying GL, selling PT [24-Oct-21 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: can you put up 2 PT that all I need [24-Oct-21 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: sure [24-Oct-21 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: awesome! [24-Oct-21 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: up [24-Oct-21 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: Thanks!! [24-Oct-21 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: MsOrange is the first person in 542 days of playing to comment that I use palindromic bids and prices. (First to comment...so it's hard to say how many have noticed...and how many have been irritated) [24-Oct-21 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: I could quit it at any time (he said, uncertainly) [24-Oct-21 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: lol [24-Oct-21 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: overnight HRT -> avalon, plenty of space left [24-Oct-21 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: last call; leaving at the top of the horu [24-Oct-21 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: *hour [25-Oct-21 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anyone selling FF locally? [25-Oct-21 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: :D [25-Oct-21 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: so to be clear we're not in an episode of lost then cos I found this dynamite... [25-Oct-21 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: Oh I just realised why it's always so much worse flying avalon <-> promitor - you have to land at both ends [25-Oct-21 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: which leads to the question is landing / taking cheaper on planets with less gravity? [25-Oct-21 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: Tonight on 'Orange Ponders' [25-Oct-21 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I think it is [25-Oct-21 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: I DO live in a hatch where I have to push a button on a regular basis for unspecified reasons...the Petula Clark is starting to get a bit cloying. [25-Oct-21 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: (OMG "Downtown was written for Petula Clark by Tony Hatch...the LOST Easter eggs never stop.) [25-Oct-21 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: There are really only three food producers on Avalon? The CoGC Program "Victuals are our Bread and Butter" is boosting food production by 25% for only me, @StanleyFarms and @HareEnterprises Inc. [25-Oct-21 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: (I have never used the word "victuals" until PrUN; haven't yet met a self-identified "victualler" IRL) [25-Oct-21 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: it's a pleasingly archaic word :) [25-Oct-21 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: bugger I missed the HRT to Avalon shippings - just left [25-Oct-21 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: no there are more food produces then just you three [25-Oct-21 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: When the message arises: "he Chamber of Global Commerce at Hortus - Avalon started a new economic program: Advertising Campaign: Food Industries." it's not junk mail or fake news. Git on in on the production boost! [25-Oct-21 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: I've never noticed on the Chamber of Commerce screen under "Command" the link to "programs / vote" which brings up 14 programs. Only Food, Construction, and Pioneers in general have gotten any love (or "influence"). Is the idea that if enough people vote for Chemistry programs they'll start to appear? (The campaign slogan is, "Science is Sexy." [25-Oct-21 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: every 7 days the next COGC effect is decided by vote. your influence is determined by the POP you have on the planet [25-Oct-21 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: I've never voted before the ad goes up (before today I didn't know it was possible). The influence only has effect whe you vote, or does it influence the appearance of the Food or Pioneers campaign in our Notifications? [25-Oct-21 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: "influence" is just an obfuscated election [25-Oct-21 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: just think of it as a bonus we are electing every week? [25-Oct-21 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: Producing FF at ~200units/20hours, posting ads as they are produced. [25-Oct-21 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: Working on doubling my FF production in a few days. [26-Oct-21 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: @MsOrange PG prices are rising... You gonna scale up? [26-Oct-21 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I already have 2 running :D [26-Oct-21 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I will be knee deep in PG at this rate [26-Oct-21 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: what's the done rate for shipping - I've never done a shipping contract [26-Oct-21 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: prom -> avalon [26-Oct-21 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I think its usually 4 ICA per T or M^3 [26-Oct-21 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: which ever is larger? so for 90t -> 360 [26-Oct-21 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yeah [27-Oct-21 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Avalon -> HRT, ~8h, leaving in 15min [27-Oct-21 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Did I miss it? [27-Oct-21 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: @lordcirth hopefully you haven't left yet. Two ads posted [27-Oct-21 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: nope, got it [27-Oct-21 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: leaving now [27-Oct-21 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Thanks! [27-Oct-21 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: lessons from setting up a second base on a populated planet in a different faction: currency exchange is a fun time [27-Oct-21 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'm rich on Deimos; a bunch of AIC that I don't have any use for [27-Oct-21 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: here I am on avalon with 25 ICA in my account [27-Oct-21 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Maces**: LF Cargo to Prom [27-Oct-21 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: 30 RAT plx [27-Oct-21 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: sure, post at market ask [27-Oct-21 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: price? [27-Oct-21 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 37.5ea [27-Oct-21 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: ty [27-Oct-21 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***thejeffcooper** deleted this message.* [27-Oct-21 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I swear it's always the times that I spend extra on fuel that something blows upp at work and I log in 3 hours late completely negating the speed increase [27-Oct-21 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: and I'm still logged in to work CURSE MY COLLEAGUES [27-Oct-21 02:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: ah pop report time - I think those 3 technicians sit around all day playing nethack [27-Oct-21 02:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: or dwarf fortress [27-Oct-21 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anyone want to buy BBH or BSE? I have two of each and only 5 ICA, so I can't afford my production fees [27-Oct-21 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: ill take 2 - do they taste like girl scout cookies? I'm british - we don't have them - I imagine they taste like BSE though [27-Oct-21 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: BSE or BBH? you'll have to put up the LM ad, since I can't afford the posting fee :| [27-Oct-21 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: lol [27-Oct-21 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: how did it come to this [27-Oct-21 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: 810 a piece? [27-Oct-21 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: wasn't paying attention. I have probably 20k worth of BBH and BSE currently on a ship to the CX, but they don't do much good until they get there [27-Oct-21 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: for BSE? seems reasonable [27-Oct-21 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: also, girl scout cookies taste different depending on where you are! they have two or three different bakeries across the country [27-Oct-21 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: ad is up be quick [27-Oct-21 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: and depending on where you are, you get similar but noticeably different cookies under the same name [27-Oct-21 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: thank you much! [27-Oct-21 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: now don't do it again! [27-Oct-21 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: or I'll send the girl scouts round [27-Oct-21 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'll find a new exciting way to screw up next time, promise [27-Oct-21 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Emmett_Wolff** joined.* [27-Oct-21 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Insomaniacs** joined.* [27-Oct-21 11:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CopyTheName** joined.* [27-Oct-21 11:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: welcome, new Avalonians! [28-Oct-21 03:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***minebits** joined.* [28-Oct-21 03:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DakotaKeith** joined.* [28-Oct-21 05:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ormrinn** joined.* [28-Oct-21 05:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***cadia** left.* [28-Oct-21 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: ooh do we have a new player wave? [28-Oct-21 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jormungandir** joined.* [28-Oct-21 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: btw, could someone sell me some PE for the CoGC? [28-Oct-21 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: Hi All! [28-Oct-21 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: it's been a while since the last Procurement [28-Oct-21 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UuAA1XMuxFqgAX2HfYzlqp80S2lO3ufu-wV2jUzTujA/edit#gid=82951646 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UuAA1XMuxFqgAX2HfYzlqp80S2lO3ufu-wV2jUzTujA/edit Kingdom Of Avalon Wealth Administration Governance Sheet Dashboard designed by yesplease GOVERNMENT OF AVALON ,CHANGELOG Link: https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Jq4LLH1phl2JLrXhseQTBmVfPnnEoU_xHWF5ndzidas/https/lh4.googleusercontent.com/FgPi73TgGSRC3kwWZK69F_nA9-Gvislu4vjAlwWLPGClmqd93LHT1QymRSQkD8qbS4BmHrcVC36t3w%3Dw1200-h630-p [28-Oct-21 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: anyways [28-Oct-21 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: we need to maintain the CoGC and SST, so please do participate in this auction! [28-Oct-21 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: Furthermore, though I've put this off for a while I"ve revamped the 'Assets' tab, so now we know how much stuff the government owns [28-Oct-21 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: I'll be online for a couple hours to answer any questions you have! otherwise you can reach me on discord at yesplease#6088 [28-Oct-21 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NewGameWhoDis** left.* [28-Oct-21 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I have 1k PE - what do you need? [28-Oct-21 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: oh no I dont but I will have tomorrow [28-Oct-21 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I've got a ship coming back from HRT. Anybody have cargo? [28-Oct-21 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: HRT -> Avalon [28-Oct-21 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ~10h flight time, probably [28-Oct-21 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I've just come back, full [28-Oct-21 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: departed. turning immediately around and going back to HRT when it gets here, so post contracts for that route if you have them :) [28-Oct-21 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Selling LST well below CXP! [28-Oct-21 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: anyone need FLX? [28-Oct-21 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ugh whoops. just swapped two numbers and sold a bunch of BBH well below market price at the CX [28-Oct-21 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: 13@ 894 instead of 984 :( [28-Oct-21 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ooof [28-Oct-21 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: i think it should auto sell at the highest bid price [28-Oct-21 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Yeah, it will take the best price, but it could still be pretty low [28-Oct-21 06:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: iirc it wasn't that much different [28-Oct-21 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I keep trying to justify teching up, but my spreadsheet keeps saying that a BMP is the most profitable building I can make - and that's before accounting for building cost! [28-Oct-21 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: i think you should do it then, i think teching up comes later when your not thinking much about profit but more of logistics, production chains and synergizing multiple planets [28-Oct-21 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I know, but BMP #4 is boring :P [28-Oct-21 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i found FP #28 to be my most exciting :D [28-Oct-21 06:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: lol [28-Oct-21 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: what happened to all the FF makers , do i need to go settle the HE3 planet? [28-Oct-21 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LeMergy** left.* [28-Oct-21 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Well, H is spiking [28-Oct-21 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mercinspace** left.* [28-Oct-21 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: overnight avalon -> HRT, leaving in ~45m, 300t available [28-Oct-21 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **WordedWheel**: I imagine when the price went way down they decided to change markets, but so many left it now the price is shooting back up. It was basically at MM for ages [28-Oct-21 11:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: changes to the fuel MMs? i dont see it any where on the latest dev blog [28-Oct-21 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: No, no MM changes, just normal price changes [28-Oct-21 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: he suggested "fuel makers shifted into different markets when fuel prices fell" [28-Oct-21 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: ah i see i misread [29-Oct-21 05:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I'm going on holiday til monday - let's see if I can get my production queues sorted :D [29-Oct-21 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: step 1 - switch extractors to sulphur crystals so they take up less space [29-Oct-21 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: also - bums my ship comes in 45 minutes after we're supposed to be leaving - timed that one badly :D [29-Oct-21 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: @sdlouisee you need to pick up your limestone you paid for [29-Oct-21 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I'm sending a super slow flight to HRT :D [29-Oct-21 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: @msorange you could keep your extractors doing what they're doing and then set up a bunch of long-duration shipping contracts [29-Oct-21 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: with auto-provision [29-Oct-21 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'm sure a few of us will be heading to HRT between now and the time you get back [29-Oct-21 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: or rent a warehouse locally [29-Oct-21 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: anyone got KOm and or REP to sell? [29-Oct-21 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***armorlord** deleted this message.* [29-Oct-21 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: Oh, @MsOrange if you have PE yeah we do need it! [29-Oct-21 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: If you look at the assets tab, we're short on everything so please do bid to sell the government some DW, PE, MCG and RAT! [29-Oct-21 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***psyonics** joined.* [29-Oct-21 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Surprised there aren't more bids. Submitted some more [29-Oct-21 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: as someone who submitted 9 bids, i find the process a bit tedious eventually. may i suggest we use the new bidding bot feature in the future? [29-Oct-21 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Cool! [29-Oct-21 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Is that a discord bot? [29-Oct-21 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yes [29-Oct-21 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: its part of UFObot now [29-Oct-21 02:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jasiinhell** joined.* [29-Oct-21 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: full shipment available from HRT -> avalon [29-Oct-21 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: anyone have 50 RAT and DW they want to sell me? [29-Oct-21 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***aerleon9** joined.* [29-Oct-21 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: yeah kjust put it up on the lm [29-Oct-21 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: well how much are people selling for? [29-Oct-21 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'm a big dummy who just left HRT with @dragonican's cargo but forgot most of my own :| -- 3x shipping contracts on the LM [29-Oct-21 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: well, at least my stuff is getting here :) [29-Oct-21 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: XD [30-Oct-21 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***thorminer** joined.* [30-Oct-21 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: HRT -> Avalon, ~8h, leaving in 15m [30-Oct-21 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AlexGera** joined.* [30-Oct-21 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***thejeffcooper** deleted this message.* [30-Oct-21 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: @lordcirth I'm assuming you left already? [30-Oct-21 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Yes [30-Oct-21 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: well, hopefully someone grabs my contracts before they expire :< [30-Oct-21 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Elfseeker** left.* [30-Oct-21 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Avalon -> HRT, ~8h, leaving ~15m, followed by immediate turnaround back to avalon [30-Oct-21 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Asah** left.* [30-Oct-21 09:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: there is a shipment from HRT to Avalon [30-Oct-21 09:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: BIg money! [31-Oct-21 01:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***piopiopiop** joined.* [31-Oct-21 02:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***IHaveReason** joined.* [31-Oct-21 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dzoid** left.* [31-Oct-21 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user49f4fd5502** left.* [31-Oct-21 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: selling lots of fuel and rations on the LM for a fair price. Grab what you need. [31-Oct-21 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: having a sale on FLX get it while its cheap [31-Oct-21 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: Hi all, I'll close the auction tomorrow when I'm free! [31-Oct-21 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UuAA1XMuxFqgAX2HfYzlqp80S2lO3ufu-wV2jUzTujA/edit#gid=82951646 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UuAA1XMuxFqgAX2HfYzlqp80S2lO3ufu-wV2jUzTujA/edit Kingdom Of Avalon Wealth Administration Governance Sheet Dashboard designed by yesplease GOVERNMENT OF AVALON ,CHANGELOG Link: https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Jq4LLH1phl2JLrXhseQTBmVfPnnEoU_xHWF5ndzidas/https/lh4.googleusercontent.com/FgPi73TgGSRC3kwWZK69F_nA9-Gvislu4vjAlwWLPGClmqd93LHT1QymRSQkD8qbS4BmHrcVC36t3w%3Dw1200-h630-p [31-Oct-21 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: please get any last minute bids in, so we can properly maintain our infrastructure! [31-Oct-21 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: we still would need bids for a lot of stuff to build up the stockpile [31-Oct-21 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: as promised, when our debts were paid off then the taxes would go back to normal levels [31-Oct-21 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: it does look like we need an SST expansion soon though, so I will open another procurement after this one closes [31-Oct-21 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: should we do DW + OFF on this SST or DW on a level 2 SST? [31-Oct-21 11:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: seeing the cost of both DW and OFF at the current time, it looks like OFF upkeep is hardly more expensive than DW upkeep. excess tax income should definitely go towards SST2, but i dont think it would save money compared to our current situation [01-Nov-21 07:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: sure, next procurement then [01-Nov-21 07:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I'm back! [01-Nov-21 07:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: and only one of my production queues ran out which was pretty good going [01-Nov-21 07:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: if a contract breaches by someone not picking their stuff up does it return you your inventory? [01-Nov-21 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gnargl** left.* [01-Nov-21 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: if anyone has small cargo (~100t) bound for HRT, I've got some space in a ship with a ~10h flight time [01-Nov-21 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: weird. I was just planning a flight avalon -> hrt. 54 units of fuel was 1d48m flight time. 55 units was 1d17h [01-Nov-21 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mhk** joined.* [01-Nov-21 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: anyone doing smelting here? [01-Nov-21 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: yeah, a bit [01-Nov-21 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: what's up? [01-Nov-21 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: im assuming its related to the FLX posted on LM [01-Nov-21 06:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yup I will have consistent supplies of O and FLX now [01-Nov-21 06:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: oh cool [01-Nov-21 06:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yeah [01-Nov-21 06:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'm actually planning to move my smelting off-world, but that's going to take a while [01-Nov-21 06:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I have 70 O on being extracted on a planet 4 jumps away [01-Nov-21 06:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: nice [01-Nov-21 06:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yeah [01-Nov-21 06:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: 35 a day rn [01-Nov-21 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: sweet [01-Nov-21 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: so yeah in you need any O ask [01-Nov-21 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ill probably just sell down to the MM if no one take mu up on it [01-Nov-21 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Sounds good. What's your price? I can stock up a bit [01-Nov-21 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: 45 will be fine [02-Nov-21 01:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: add posted on local, also got FF for sale [02-Nov-21 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: anybody got a single BSE for sale? missing one for my smelter [02-Nov-21 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Looks like people finally figured out that PT was hella profitable. And now it isn't. :P [02-Nov-21 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: someone is making DW/RAT locally, right? [02-Nov-21 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Lots of people, I believe [02-Nov-21 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **stanley_yelnatsIII**: anyone have Trusses I could buy [02-Nov-21 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: yarrr [02-Nov-21 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **stanley_yelnatsIII**: sweet i need 19 [02-Nov-21 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: you're lucky I was just about too ship them to market :) [02-Nov-21 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **stanley_yelnatsIII**: :) [02-Nov-21 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **stanley_yelnatsIII**: whats your price [02-Nov-21 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: is 290 each ok - that's about half way between buy and sell at the CX [02-Nov-21 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **stanley_yelnatsIII**: sure thats sounds good to me [02-Nov-21 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: so 5500 total for 19 [02-Nov-21 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **stanley_yelnatsIII**: yep [02-Nov-21 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **stanley_yelnatsIII**: add is up [02-Nov-21 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: erm I accepted and am clicking on it but view is not working [02-Nov-21 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: let me see if I can bring it up another way [02-Nov-21 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **stanley_yelnatsIII**: oh yeah that got broken in the update last night [02-Nov-21 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: ah [02-Nov-21 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **stanley_yelnatsIII**: try conts [02-Nov-21 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: managed it using the CONTS [02-Nov-21 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **stanley_yelnatsIII**: nice thx [02-Nov-21 06:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***conflict131** joined.* [02-Nov-21 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: Hi all, AP8 is closed and the bids have gone to Dragonican and lordcirth! [02-Nov-21 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: we are going to bid for the SST expansion and to supply the SSTs with OFF now [02-Nov-21 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UuAA1XMuxFqgAX2HfYzlqp80S2lO3ufu-wV2jUzTujA/edit#gid=82951646 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UuAA1XMuxFqgAX2HfYzlqp80S2lO3ufu-wV2jUzTujA/edit Kingdom Of Avalon Wealth Administration Governance Sheet Dashboard designed by yesplease GOVERNMENT OF AVALON ,CHANGELOG Link: https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Jq4LLH1phl2JLrXhseQTBmVfPnnEoU_xHWF5ndzidas/https/lh4.googleusercontent.com/FgPi73TgGSRC3kwWZK69F_nA9-Gvislu4vjAlwWLPGClmqd93LHT1QymRSQkD8qbS4BmHrcVC36t3w%3Dw1200-h630-p [02-Nov-21 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: anyonw making BBH, BDE, BTA, BSE, MCG, TRU or OFF, please bid on AP9! [02-Nov-21 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: if you have questions on the bidding process, ask here or ping me on discord at yesplease#6088 [02-Nov-21 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: I know we have a couple new players, so do feel free to ask any clarifying questions! [02-Nov-21 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: and with that, Avalon slides back into debt :/ [02-Nov-21 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AttackingJoe** joined.* [02-Nov-21 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: Very few people have voted in the COGC. ^^ [02-Nov-21 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AdvaithR** joined.* [03-Nov-21 07:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Can someone please take my FF ad? I have a ship that needs to leave [03-Nov-21 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: say no more [03-Nov-21 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: ask and you will recieve [03-Nov-21 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Thanks! [03-Nov-21 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dreistein** joined.* [03-Nov-21 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dreistein**: greetings [03-Nov-21 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dreistein**: forgot to take OVE with me , would someone fill my small buy ad on the LM ? [03-Nov-21 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Karnage-333** joined.* [03-Nov-21 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Buying PG on the LM [03-Nov-21 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dreistein**: thx [03-Nov-21 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dreistein**: i dont have much PG but can spare a few if its a emergency [03-Nov-21 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I fulfilled it [03-Nov-21 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: (the PG) [04-Nov-21 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Anyone need ALO? I've got more than I need [04-Nov-21 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: Unless anyone's got a salable excess of H2O, I'm making a water run to the Hortus CX with 426t of free space. I'll leave in about an hour. [04-Nov-21 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Captain_Spaceship** joined.* [04-Nov-21 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hxhjx** joined.* [04-Nov-21 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Stormracerdan** joined.* [04-Nov-21 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yeah ill take some ALO. how much? [04-Nov-21 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ALO.IC1 [04-Nov-21 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: k Ill know how much I can buy in 8 hours [04-Nov-21 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: great. I've got ~200 available to sell [04-Nov-21 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: awesome! [04-Nov-21 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: you need any O or FLX? [04-Nov-21 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: also, the spread is 16.5 /u. Can we split the difference and say 80/ea? [04-Nov-21 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: oh yeah, both [04-Nov-21 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yeah [04-Nov-21 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I have a 140 O going to the cx in * hours and I have over 100 FLX here [04-Nov-21 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: 8 hours* [04-Nov-21 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: what price are you looking for on them? or what trade do you propose? [04-Nov-21 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: 40/u of O and 80/u FLX [04-Nov-21 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: 100 ALO for 66 FLX and 68 O? [04-Nov-21 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: based on the prices we discussed, that's an even trade [04-Nov-21 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: could also do 200 ALO for 133 FLX and 134 O (also even) [04-Nov-21 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ill take the 100 [04-Nov-21 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: sounds good to me. what timeline are you thinking? [04-Nov-21 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: most of my ALO is in my warehouse at the CX [04-Nov-21 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I just posted a shipping ad to bring a bunch back [04-Nov-21 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ill grab that but I have to go to prom first then to avalon [04-Nov-21 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: that okay? [04-Nov-21 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: yeah, no problem. I just can't sell it to you until you're back :) [04-Nov-21 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yep I cant trade the O till I'm back either [04-Nov-21 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: Change of plans: I'm going to raise the scratch to buy water from Dreistein Corp -- anyone need: CAF, C, RCO, COT, EPO, GRN/BEA/MUS/VEG, FE/PT? [04-Nov-21 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: Forgot I loaded my ship already; also OVE, RAT, SFK, MFK, MCG and stylish, indigo blue HMS. [04-Nov-21 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: Ads for C, PT, COT and RCO already up. [04-Nov-21 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: Lower than HRT CX prices! [04-Nov-21 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: have anymore C? [04-Nov-21 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: anyone need shipping to CX? got an empty ship for you [04-Nov-21 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: Hi all! the government is still looking for various b-fabs for the SST expansion, as well as office supplies for all the office workers! [04-Nov-21 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UuAA1XMuxFqgAX2HfYzlqp80S2lO3ufu-wV2jUzTujA/edit#gid=82951646 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UuAA1XMuxFqgAX2HfYzlqp80S2lO3ufu-wV2jUzTujA/edit Kingdom Of Avalon Wealth Administration Governance Sheet Dashboard designed by yesplease GOVERNMENT OF AVALON ,CHANGELOG Link: https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Jq4LLH1phl2JLrXhseQTBmVfPnnEoU_xHWF5ndzidas/https/lh4.googleusercontent.com/FgPi73TgGSRC3kwWZK69F_nA9-Gvislu4vjAlwWLPGClmqd93LHT1QymRSQkD8qbS4BmHrcVC36t3w%3Dw1200-h630-p [04-Nov-21 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: please do take a look at the latest procurement if you're interested in supplying B-fabs, MCG, TRU, or OFF! [04-Nov-21 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Boomtetris** joined.* [05-Nov-21 07:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: DW on LM need emergency~ my workers are dying from dehydration so they are taking too long with their breaks -_- [05-Nov-21 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: 👼 [05-Nov-21 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: 🙏 [05-Nov-21 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: drown the pioneers under all this DW that requested and hire the unemployed lest they make the same mistake [05-Nov-21 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: idle = replace >:] [05-Nov-21 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Flips** joined.* [05-Nov-21 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sarperen** joined.* [05-Nov-21 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dreistein**: Flying to HRT in around 2 hours, nearly empty. 462/462 of 500/500 free [05-Nov-21 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: cool. just posted two ads. one should provision immediately, the other in ~40m [05-Nov-21 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Qd0t** joined.* [06-Nov-21 04:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yavimaya** joined.* [06-Nov-21 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **WordedWheel**: Anyone need shipping to hrt? I'm leaving in literally a few minutes but since i have 450t spare capacity i thought I'd offer... [06-Nov-21 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **WordedWheel**: Departing now. I will be making another trip to the cx later today with a a basically empty ship. If you need anything shipping post it on our LM and hopefully I'll pick it up in a few hours [06-Nov-21 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anyone making BDE locally? [06-Nov-21 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: yeah [06-Nov-21 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: what you need? [06-Nov-21 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pleinair**: I only have 160 BDE [06-Nov-21 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***benisarius** joined.* [06-Nov-21 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: ah, the govt needs 29 BDE actually for AP9 [06-Nov-21 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: if you can spare any [06-Nov-21 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: furthermore, given the low response rate for B-fabs on Avalon do you mind if I open up bidding on Katoa? [06-Nov-21 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: If no one objects by like, 24 hours from this message I will do so [07-Nov-21 01:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dreistein**: g morning, flying to HRT in 30mins, if you have anything to transport , put it on [07-Nov-21 01:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: posted two small ads [07-Nov-21 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dreistein**: alright [07-Nov-21 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dreistein**: got it [07-Nov-21 01:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: id prefer the auction be universally available rather than just adding Katoa. on a broader scale, im in favor of every auction being open to all from the start [07-Nov-21 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Osirion** joined.* [07-Nov-21 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Avalon -> HRT, ~12, leaving 15m [07-Nov-21 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: There you go I finally put some bids in :P [07-Nov-21 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tron31** joined.* [07-Nov-21 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Stasja** joined.* [08-Nov-21 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Buying PG urgently. Also, HRT-Avalon leaving soon [08-Nov-21 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I got PG if you are still in need [08-Nov-21 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: oooo it's quiet today - are the Americans all doing something American? [08-Nov-21 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: in the UK we just had 'celebrate someone getting hung, drawn and quartered for something most of us would like to do' day [08-Nov-21 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: nothing especially american that I know of [08-Nov-21 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: just monday... (= [08-Nov-21 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Curben**: Isn't Monday national re-think your life day? [08-Nov-21 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Curben**: It's supposed to be spent in quiet contemplation at your desk after a fun weekend. [08-Nov-21 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Curben**: with your eyes closed [09-Nov-21 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***flyingtigger** joined.* [09-Nov-21 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: Hello fellow Boucherians. Is there anyone around with a idling ship and wants to earn some cash? I could use some LST for LG-093a. You could grab it there, either buy it or as shipping contracts, and I pay you for it on Boucher. Feel free to DM me here on on discord if you are interested [09-Nov-21 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: oh wrong chat [09-Nov-21 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: xD [09-Nov-21 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: Lol [09-Nov-21 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***StephTheDon** joined.* [09-Nov-21 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: @Curben - you mean "I've made terrible life choices" Monday? [09-Nov-21 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: My internet is too borls to even send flights today - I've got dropouts every few pings due to a fault in the area :( [09-Nov-21 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: so getting my internet from Virgin Media might have been one of those terrible life choices [09-Nov-21 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: @msorange there's a mobile interface now, if you have data [09-Nov-21 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: it fixed itself about half an hour after that but that's good to know @lordcirith [09-Nov-21 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: 0P[/-LO8IKGT5R4F5DQ3204+75\ [09-Nov-21 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: .O|9L .\B.CE3 c [09-Nov-21 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: me too [09-Nov-21 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ooooof [09-Nov-21 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: was on my laptop and thought my keyboard wasnt working lmao [09-Nov-21 06:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UuAA1XMuxFqgAX2HfYzlqp80S2lO3ufu-wV2jUzTujA/edit#gid=82951646 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UuAA1XMuxFqgAX2HfYzlqp80S2lO3ufu-wV2jUzTujA/edit Kingdom Of Avalon Wealth Administration Governance Sheet Dashboard designed by yesplease GOVERNMENT OF AVALON ,CHANGELOG Link: https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Jq4LLH1phl2JLrXhseQTBmVfPnnEoU_xHWF5ndzidas/https/lh4.googleusercontent.com/FgPi73TgGSRC3kwWZK69F_nA9-Gvislu4vjAlwWLPGClmqd93LHT1QymRSQkD8qbS4BmHrcVC36t3w%3Dw1200-h630-p [09-Nov-21 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: yoo, we're still looking for bids to supply the govt with stuff! [09-Nov-21 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: if you have a BMP you can consider making some OFF [09-Nov-21 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: If I had PG and EPO I would [09-Nov-21 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **stanley_yelnatsIII**: I could sell you some EPO if youd like [09-Nov-21 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: if I had more then 200 ICA that would be great [09-Nov-21 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: Who actually extracts SCR from this planet? I came for the habitable temperatures and breathable atmosphere, but stayed for the noxious, sulfurous fumes...I got a rock stuck to my fridge that says "I went to Avalon and all I got was this magnetite." [09-Nov-21 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: But I digress...I put an ad up to buy SCR [09-Nov-21 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I think I might as well add an extractor to my base [09-Nov-21 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***psyonics** left.* [09-Nov-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AlexGera** left.* [09-Nov-21 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***thorminer** left.* [09-Nov-21 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***piopiopiop** left.* [09-Nov-21 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***IHaveReason** left.* [10-Nov-21 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: to what ends? [10-Nov-21 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I occasionally extract it when I'm going away and don't want to fill up my storage with MAG [10-Nov-21 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: as long as the MM stays an extractor is a good steadying source of income :D [10-Nov-21 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: 50 DW plx [10-Nov-21 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: @thesmitharies 27.5 ea [10-Nov-21 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: anyone got OVE? [10-Nov-21 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: up [10-Nov-21 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I have 93 with 30 due in 6 hours but I suspect you need them sooner than that @Desan [10-Nov-21 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: esp as 6 hours = me in bed for the night [10-Nov-21 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: crap now i need 20 RAT [10-Nov-21 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 37.5 @thesmitaries [10-Nov-21 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: up [10-Nov-21 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: @MsOrange, I can take the 93 [10-Nov-21 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: that would help [10-Nov-21 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: posted, hope @50 is okay [10-Nov-21 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: my money :( [10-Nov-21 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cosmicPotato** joined.* [10-Nov-21 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: hopefully my new ove will be crafted before I run out - I should have said 90 :D [10-Nov-21 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: night Avalon :) [10-Nov-21 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: if anyone if coming from prom there are a few shipping ads up that are for me [10-Nov-21 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AttackingJoe** left.* [10-Nov-21 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: Hello! bid results are out! [10-Nov-21 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UuAA1XMuxFqgAX2HfYzlqp80S2lO3ufu-wV2jUzTujA/edit#gid=82951646 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UuAA1XMuxFqgAX2HfYzlqp80S2lO3ufu-wV2jUzTujA/edit Kingdom Of Avalon Wealth Administration Governance Sheet Dashboard designed by yesplease GOVERNMENT OF AVALON ,CHANGELOG Link: https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Jq4LLH1phl2JLrXhseQTBmVfPnnEoU_xHWF5ndzidas/https/lh4.googleusercontent.com/FgPi73TgGSRC3kwWZK69F_nA9-Gvislu4vjAlwWLPGClmqd93LHT1QymRSQkD8qbS4BmHrcVC36t3w%3Dw1200-h630-p [10-Nov-21 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: I'm looking for someone who's willing to sell the government 10 BBH so we can get the SST upgrade over and done with! [10-Nov-21 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: so please do tell me if you want to sell the government this [10-Nov-21 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: I also put Helter5's bid into a different (empty) lot by my discretion so they could win the bid [10-Nov-21 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: but I am still paying the winner the proper second price [10-Nov-21 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: anyways [10-Nov-21 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: winners, please do pick up the ads on Hortus, and post the respective sell ads for 1 DW each [10-Nov-21 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RayKowalchuk** deleted this message.* [10-Nov-21 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: Nobody a sulphur miner? I got a post up for 100 over CX price -- anyone selling smaller quantities? [10-Nov-21 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: done [11-Nov-21 04:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: anyone got 8-10 HCP for sale? [11-Nov-21 05:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: toss it up at a reasonable price ill take it [11-Nov-21 06:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: need quick BTA buying at 200+ marketprice on LM [11-Nov-21 06:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: Anyone going Prom>>Avalon soon? [11-Nov-21 06:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: i will have a ship arriving in 16 hours from now, but i can only take small things [11-Nov-21 06:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: no less then 30t/m [11-Nov-21 06:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: ok will do, [11-Nov-21 06:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: LMA VH-331a/19999 LMA VH-331a/19998 LMA VH-331a/19997 LMA VH-331a/19996 [11-Nov-21 06:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: got ya [11-Nov-21 06:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: ty [11-Nov-21 06:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: thanks a lot [11-Nov-21 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: they are small [11-Nov-21 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: ok put them up if you want [11-Nov-21 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: really small should all fit. [11-Nov-21 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: they are all on the Prom LM [11-Nov-21 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: 4 ads [11-Nov-21 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: btw desan dont u make fuel here ? do u have 3 ammonia to spare its on LM [11-Nov-21 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: there are also 2 shipments HRT to Avalon if anyone has some room :) [11-Nov-21 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***templar627** joined.* [11-Nov-21 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I just couldn't get the stock in your time frame Ray - I've picked up the 50 order - don't have the space to keep stuff about generally so had none in stock - I'm digging it out for you now [11-Nov-21 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: @yesplease I can make some BBH if you want [11-Nov-21 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: got nothing planned for my PP1 and PP" [11-Nov-21 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: Thanks MsOrange! Sulfur plays a small part in my recipe book, not yet worth the footprint of an extractor on my Avalon base. [12-Nov-21 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Simsorion** joined.* [12-Nov-21 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Stormracerdan** left.* [12-Nov-21 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hxhjx** left.* [12-Nov-21 11:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: It should be ready in 14 hours which is the earlyish morning @RayKowalchuk - so it may be a few hours after that [12-Nov-21 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: Cheap FLX on the LM [12-Nov-21 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: no one going HRT>>Avalon? in general, shipping ads seem to pile up ^^ [12-Nov-21 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cosmicPotato** left.* [12-Nov-21 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **sdlouisee**: I will fly hrt-avalon starting in an hour or so but unfortunately not much room left over [12-Nov-21 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: thanks :) [12-Nov-21 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: I also have 2 shipping order on LM, need more fuel on HRT. If anyone has room. [12-Nov-21 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: LMA VH-331g/2502 LMA VH-331g/2453 [12-Nov-21 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***conflict131** left.* [13-Nov-21 12:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Qazwxe** joined.* [13-Nov-21 02:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TallUglyFatGuy** joined.* [13-Nov-21 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Flips** left.* [13-Nov-21 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: sorry to be annoying, anyone got room to ship to HRT? [13-Nov-21 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sarperen** left.* [13-Nov-21 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: I love the smell of fresh sulphur in the morning. It smells like...prosperity. [13-Nov-21 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: (I used the English layperson spelling of sulfur, @MsOrange, as I am a Canadian subject of the Britsh Commonweath.) [13-Nov-21 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Karnage-333** left.* [13-Nov-21 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Qd0t** left.* [13-Nov-21 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: sure, I've posted two ads for the BBH on the LM! [14-Nov-21 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: damn beaten to it :D [14-Nov-21 08:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: 🏃 [14-Nov-21 08:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I snoozed I losed [14-Nov-21 08:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: anyone have LST for sale? ^^ [14-Nov-21 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I'm sure her majesty appreciates it Ray [14-Nov-21 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I have a surplus if you'd like 20-30 to tide you over? [14-Nov-21 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: ill take it ^^ [14-Nov-21 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: just post a sell ad [14-Nov-21 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: 100 each ok? [14-Nov-21 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I put an ad up [14-Nov-21 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: u put the wrong type of ad i think [14-Nov-21 09:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: fucksake [14-Nov-21 09:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: thanks assanova - I'm very hungover. not going to bed til 5am is unwise when you're ancient like me [14-Nov-21 09:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: It's storytime, w/ MsOrange! Gather 'round (but no shouting or loud noises) [14-Nov-21 09:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: (I'll bet an ICA it was tonic contaminated with gin, hold the Einsteinium) [14-Nov-21 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Buying fuel on LM [14-Nov-21 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: there was Gin and Lemonade before we went out (it was flavoured gin so the tonic would have not been great) [14-Nov-21 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: then there was a bottle of wine (buy it at the super-busy bar and keep it in your handbag = less time wasted in the bar queue) [14-Nov-21 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: then someone suggested shots. Sambucca. followed by sours. then the wine had gone so I had a couple of pints of cider. [14-Nov-21 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: then we came home and our guest opened the bottle of prosecco he'd bought along. all in all I have no idea how I'm not dead - you're not supposed to do all this when you're 50 :D [14-Nov-21 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **WordedWheel**: Limestone on Js-572c LM... [14-Nov-21 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: @msorange that sounds like a lovely saturday night [14-Nov-21 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: Cheers! I just turned 50 and I think I'd be over by the wine, and 5am would not be an option. [14-Nov-21 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: msorange is an inspiration for us all [14-Nov-21 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: I'll start training [15-Nov-21 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I surprised myself I really did. [15-Nov-21 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: and Happy 50th Ray - I hope you got to have a slight better celebration than I did last december - we were all locked down in the UJ [15-Nov-21 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: *UK [15-Nov-21 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: I had a surprise party -- a double surprise because I didn't think I knew anyone who would throw a surprise party. No heart attack, so that was good [15-Nov-21 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: In September Canada wasn't on high alert so we had a decent party. Just two days ago, a gathering in the same space was dispersed after someone at my niece's play group was diagnosed with COVID. She and her family since tested negative...but the phone call sure killed the party! [15-Nov-21 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: Someone's selling DEC to the Avalon infrastructure? I've got two POL and occasionally get ahead on production. [15-Nov-21 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: no, we dont really need DEC [15-Nov-21 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KorGgenT** joined.* [15-Nov-21 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Buying DW and RAT [16-Nov-21 07:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: need some bta if anyone got some [16-Nov-21 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: nope mine are at the CX :D [16-Nov-21 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: would if I had any to sell. I've had a bit of downtime due to lack of LST [16-Nov-21 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Someone sell me FF so I can ship LST in [16-Nov-21 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: How does lack of LST affect FF? [16-Nov-21 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i think the phrases werent meant to be causational [16-Nov-21 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Oh, I see, you meant you want me to ship in LST [16-Nov-21 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: oh yes, sorry [16-Nov-21 03:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Well, I have a shipload coming soon that is pre-sold, and another in a few days. If I can get the FF I'll keep going [16-Nov-21 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: I am doing what I can folks ^^ [16-Nov-21 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: I can fill it in a couple hours, I have to get FF up to CX asap first [16-Nov-21 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I'm regretting the last batch I sold now if it's getting that bad [16-Nov-21 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jimgreenb** joined.* [17-Nov-21 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6a9d53f76a** left.* [17-Nov-21 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user07ab62a8a2** left.* [17-Nov-21 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dreistein**: hey, any interest for a combined effort to upgrade the population infrastructure ? [17-Nov-21 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: please read my message in global chat [17-Nov-21 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dreistein**: and beeing able to build more production sites [17-Nov-21 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dreistein**: ah kk [17-Nov-21 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dreistein**: thx [17-Nov-21 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: for others, dreistein tried to hire more PIO than the (153) number in one week, so he thought we were out of PIO. however, we still have ample PIO unemployment, and he will get all the PIO he needs during the next POPR [17-Nov-21 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dreistein**: sorry for the confusion, newb playing [17-Nov-21 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 90 day newb, hmm. we all have stuff to learn, dont worry about not having POPI stuff memorized [17-Nov-21 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dreistein**: well on prom and boucher i never encounter it due to slower growth [17-Nov-21 06:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: if anyone got any AIC around i got 1:1 offers in FX [17-Nov-21 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: got 5k [17-Nov-21 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KorGgenT** left.* [17-Nov-21 10:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***B1naryParr0t** joined.* [18-Nov-21 02:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: a handful of sizeable shipping contracts on LM, some for both ways HRT <-> Avalon [18-Nov-21 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Stasja** left.* [18-Nov-21 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: posted multiple shipping ads form Promitor to Avalon on Prom LM if anyone is heading that dircetion [18-Nov-21 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I tend to use my warehouse at HRT and just drop stuff in the middle and keep a ship at each base now [18-Nov-21 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: fffff in a week I'll have hit 200 days. no coliqs :D [18-Nov-21 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zolaire** joined.* [18-Nov-21 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dreistein**: 200t open space on my way to HRT and PROM - if u want to ship smthng [18-Nov-21 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dreistein**: left [18-Nov-21 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: right [18-Nov-21 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: \o/ new SST [18-Nov-21 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: wooooo [18-Nov-21 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: Yes! We now need extra inputs for it [18-Nov-21 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: I'll post another procurement now [18-Nov-21 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Osirion** left.* [18-Nov-21 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UuAA1XMuxFqgAX2HfYzlqp80S2lO3ufu-wV2jUzTujA/edit#gid=82951646 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UuAA1XMuxFqgAX2HfYzlqp80S2lO3ufu-wV2jUzTujA/edit Kingdom Of Avalon Wealth Administration Governance Sheet Dashboard designed by yesplease GOVERNMENT OF AVALON ,CHANGELOG Link: https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Jq4LLH1phl2JLrXhseQTBmVfPnnEoU_xHWF5ndzidas/https/lh4.googleusercontent.com/FgPi73TgGSRC3kwWZK69F_nA9-Gvislu4vjAlwWLPGClmqd93LHT1QymRSQkD8qbS4BmHrcVC36t3w%3Dw1200-h630-p [18-Nov-21 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: yep, there's another procurement up! [18-Nov-21 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: for PE, MCG, DW, RAT, and OFF [18-Nov-21 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: surely, 7 DW lots is a bit excessive? any chance we can switch towards the auction functionality of the UFO bot in the future? [18-Nov-21 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: yes UFO bot is sick! [19-Nov-21 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zolaire** left.* [19-Nov-21 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Does the UFO bot allow flexible bid quantities? [19-Nov-21 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: @yesplease, the spreadsheet seems borked? The right side of #10 is all black [19-Nov-21 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: ah one for @yesplease - I thought I had ordered what sounded like a mild malaysian curry - I was wrong [19-Nov-21 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I should know by now that such a thing is unlikely to exist [19-Nov-21 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: very tasty though and I didn;t die [19-Nov-21 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: 7 DW lots is a lot but it's because the SST X2 and the CoGC eats up DW a lot more tahn other stuff [19-Nov-21 06:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: hmm, I'll look into the UFO bot! [19-Nov-21 06:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: hahah @MsOrange what was the name of the curry? [19-Nov-21 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: im just saying id love to bid on 2100 DW at once, and not fill out 7 forms [19-Nov-21 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: ooof [19-Nov-21 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: it seems like you are only allowed to bid once? [19-Nov-21 06:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: which is problematic, because the economics of our bidding system requires that the thing gets split into identical lots [19-Nov-21 06:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: the next issue is that, you don't get live updates on which lots are currently heavily bid on [19-Nov-21 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: coz, to my knowledge, you recieve data on all the bids at once? [19-Nov-21 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: so like, although I'm not fundamentally opposed to using UFObot, I'm gonna have to tinker around with it for a bit to figure out how to properly preserve the functionality we have [19-Nov-21 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: you will be informed every time someone submits a bid, and which lot it is on [19-Nov-21 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: the bot, at its core, just receives a text string, and then displays it after the auction concludes [19-Nov-21 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: hmm, alright then lemme go and test it out [19-Nov-21 06:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i also dont quite understand why the lot system is integral to maintain? what major disadvantage would we face upon losing specific lots [19-Nov-21 06:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: it's mostly because of the economics of the thing, since when the original Vickrey paper was written it was for things like [19-Nov-21 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: people bidding for an expensive vase [19-Nov-21 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: I don't know if the same incentives hold up when the thing you're bidding on is continuous, rather than discrete [19-Nov-21 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: which is why I went for the lot system, to make teh continuous units of stuff discrete [19-Nov-21 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: like, if you want to buy 100 DW, and your bidders bid for 50 DW at 100 ICA, 20 DW at 200 ICA, and 30 DW at 500 ICA, which is the second price? [19-Nov-21 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: that's where the logic of the original Vickrey paper, in my limited knowledge, falls apart [19-Nov-21 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: hence why lots is integral to the current bidding system [19-Nov-21 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: anyways [19-Nov-21 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: I have tinkered with UFO bot! [19-Nov-21 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: so we now have that functionality [19-Nov-21 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: we will run these two systems in parallel, because they are not mutually exclusive and in fact the UFObot one is still supervenient on the sheet regardless [19-Nov-21 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: check out https://discord.com/channels/855488309802172469/855508301080035332/911426561952088104 [19-Nov-21 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: for the UFObot auction [19-Nov-21 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: and as always, https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UuAA1XMuxFqgAX2HfYzlqp80S2lO3ufu-wV2jUzTujA/edit#gid=82951646 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UuAA1XMuxFqgAX2HfYzlqp80S2lO3ufu-wV2jUzTujA/edit Kingdom Of Avalon Wealth Administration Governance Sheet Dashboard designed by yesplease GOVERNMENT OF AVALON ,CHANGELOG Link: https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Jq4LLH1phl2JLrXhseQTBmVfPnnEoU_xHWF5ndzidas/https/lh4.googleusercontent.com/FgPi73TgGSRC3kwWZK69F_nA9-Gvislu4vjAlwWLPGClmqd93LHT1QymRSQkD8qbS4BmHrcVC36t3w%3Dw1200-h630-p [19-Nov-21 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: for the regular auction system [19-Nov-21 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EcoTerra** joined.* [20-Nov-21 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Anybody want AL or ALO and willing to pay in AIC for it? [20-Nov-21 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: or BSE/BBH [20-Nov-21 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: wow that's a lot of work you've put in @yesplease - I feel compelled to look at it all :D [20-Nov-21 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: also it was a Nyoya - it wasn't cripplingly hot just quite hot. You're going to tell me it's the Malaysian equivalent of a korma aren't you? :D [20-Nov-21 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: How many RAT can I get for 900 ICA [20-Nov-21 03:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 26, but dont forget production fees [20-Nov-21 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: So can I get 25 rat for 900 ICA? [20-Nov-21 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: I need EXO and PT [20-Nov-21 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: anyone selling some? [20-Nov-21 10:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: If I had more OVE I would make you some [20-Nov-21 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: I could also use some OVE ^^ [20-Nov-21 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: lol yeah I just bought some on the CX as I have a ship on its way there [21-Nov-21 02:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TallUglyFatGuy** left.* [21-Nov-21 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kryyoz** joined.* [21-Nov-21 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I'm lowish on EXO and PT myself and I make them :D [21-Nov-21 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: let me know I need them yesterday =D [21-Nov-21 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: there's an add up for 20 - leaves me with 2 day's worth [21-Nov-21 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I can spare 10 PT too [21-Nov-21 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: there you go - hopefully no one other than @Desan will buy them [21-Nov-21 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: thanks!! [21-Nov-21 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: no worries - gotta help a fellow avachum [21-Nov-21 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: if you have more I take more when ready!! [21-Nov-21 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I [21-Nov-21 02:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: @Desan posted 20 PT, 80 EXO.. Out of steel [21-Nov-21 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: thanks a lot! [21-Nov-21 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: I could still take some more PT but thanks for the help for now :) [21-Nov-21 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***vitaobscura5687** joined.* [21-Nov-21 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: oof, we're a bit short on PE for the CoGC [21-Nov-21 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: so I posted an ad up for it above CX ask prices on the LM [21-Nov-21 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: furthermore, reminder that the auction is in progress! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UuAA1XMuxFqgAX2HfYzlqp80S2lO3ufu-wV2jUzTujA/edit#gid=82951646 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UuAA1XMuxFqgAX2HfYzlqp80S2lO3ufu-wV2jUzTujA/edit Kingdom Of Avalon Wealth Administration Governance Sheet Dashboard designed by yesplease GOVERNMENT OF AVALON ,CHANGELOG Link: https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Jq4LLH1phl2JLrXhseQTBmVfPnnEoU_xHWF5ndzidas/https/lh4.googleusercontent.com/FgPi73TgGSRC3kwWZK69F_nA9-Gvislu4vjAlwWLPGClmqd93LHT1QymRSQkD8qbS4BmHrcVC36t3w%3Dw1200-h630-p [21-Nov-21 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: how much PE you short by? [21-Nov-21 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: its prolly taken if its not on the LM [21-Nov-21 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ah [22-Nov-21 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I see hydrogen is the new ALO or C :D [22-Nov-21 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: MsOrange is the new MsBlack [23-Nov-21 04:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Anastasia** joined.* [23-Nov-21 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ElBibulo** joined.* [23-Nov-21 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Avalon->HRT, <1d, leaving in ~15m. 350t, 420m3 left [23-Nov-21 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I hear the hydrogen 'shortage' is quite universal - have one of the corps been hoovering it up to raise the prices? [23-Nov-21 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: it has to do with people demolishing entire H bases as part of the expansion project... :( [23-Nov-21 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: #HydrogenBomb [23-Nov-21 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: oh aye - so there's a H shaped opportunity [23-Nov-21 02:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***novus** joined.* [23-Nov-21 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: FLy out to Hortus I, there is usually loads there to pick up [23-Nov-21 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Robofloof** joined.* [23-Nov-21 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: It seems like I am breaking even. Should I get another prefab plant? [23-Nov-21 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: prefab market doesnt look too profitable right now, imo [24-Nov-21 03:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: anyone have LBH on hand would pay above ask [24-Nov-21 03:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: just need 2 [24-Nov-21 03:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: nvm [24-Nov-21 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Uskebasi** joined.* [24-Nov-21 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Balili** joined.* [24-Nov-21 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: u-ho - my license has expired! [24-Nov-21 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I'm a norrmie pleb now! [24-Nov-21 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: with 2 'r's apparently [24-Nov-21 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: @yesplease your procurement code is mad - it's incrementing throughout the entire auction so instead of being AP10 for every row each row has the next number [24-Nov-21 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: but other than that I'm really liking the click through from from the spreadsheet and it filling everything in for me :D [24-Nov-21 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: also I guess if I win the auction I'll resub :D [24-Nov-21 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: gah always check LM Orange! Always! [24-Nov-21 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I'm so lazy - I resubbed cos I couldn't deal with not having repeating orders on my Promitor base [24-Nov-21 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: lol, they are really nice [24-Nov-21 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: @MsOrange, are you likely to buy the other 50 anytime soon? [24-Nov-21 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: In 3hrs I need to decide whether to dispatch a ship on another LST run for ~4-5d round trip [24-Nov-21 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: nope because before I bought that off you I bought a load (including some off you) on the CX so I'm good for a while - 80 should last me for now [24-Nov-21 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: k [24-Nov-21 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: the CX would probably thank you though :) [24-Nov-21 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **sdlouisee**: Is anyone selling lfabs? I am trying to build my second base [24-Nov-21 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Yes, what do you need? [24-Nov-21 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **sdlouisee**: Eventually 8 LSE, 8 LDE and 8 LTA but I won't have the cash for all at once [24-Nov-21 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Ok, I have 4 LDE, 4 LTA, 2 LSE. So post buys for however much at CXP and I can fulfill immediately. [24-Nov-21 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **sdlouisee**: great, will put up the ads in a minute [24-Nov-21 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: any local producers of PG on avalon? [24-Nov-21 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I am interested in the answer to this question as well [24-Nov-21 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: i have 5 Pols but not much i can sell [24-Nov-21 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: how much do u need? [24-Nov-21 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jimgreenb** left.* [24-Nov-21 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: 250 PG [24-Nov-21 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: yeah that will work [24-Nov-21 08:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: what should i list at? [24-Nov-21 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: 19.5 [24-Nov-21 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: /u [24-Nov-21 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: Right, oops @MsOrange thanks for pointing it out! It is resolved [24-Nov-21 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: obligatory the verification phase will end tomorrow, so the bid results will also come out tomorrow/day after! [24-Nov-21 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: so do get your bids in before then! 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[28-Nov-21 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Hanging in there [28-Nov-21 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: You? [28-Nov-21 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: I hear the horses thunder down in the valley below. I'm waiting for the angels of Avalon, waiting for the eastern glow. [28-Nov-21 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: I said "glow," not "snow!" [28-Nov-21 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: is that led zeppelin? [28-Nov-21 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: (I am too lazy to google) [28-Nov-21 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: we actually have snow today - I realise as a Canadian that's unremarkable but hey [28-Nov-21 07:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: I got the Led out! [28-Nov-21 07:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: Battle of Evermore [28-Nov-21 11:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: I play it on guitar; my cats like it. Especially the deaf one. [29-Nov-21 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: LOL [29-Nov-21 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TimurOm** joined.* [29-Nov-21 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: oh! welcome! [29-Nov-21 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: My cat hates everything and everyone apart from my other half [29-Nov-21 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: also don't forget to vote for governor people [29-Nov-21 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: if i win as governor, i will run POPI/COGC upkeep auctions using UFO bot, and will build more SST as appropriate. Vote Dragonican for an approach thats easy for everyone [29-Nov-21 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: but I dont like bots [29-Nov-21 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: the robot takeover is inevitable [29-Nov-21 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: anyone selling COF on avalon? [29-Nov-21 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yeah, i could give a little [29-Nov-21 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: now just to get a few units of KOM [29-Nov-21 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: @dragonican - is your name pronounced 'Dragon? I can!' or is it 'Dragownican' [29-Nov-21 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: im going to go with the second option [29-Nov-21 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: dra go ni can is normally how i visually assist people [29-Nov-21 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: like draconian but different :) [29-Nov-21 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: @kyzekk are my 20u ads too large for you? You can make a smaller ad if you want [29-Nov-21 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yeah they are [29-Nov-21 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: what is the root of your name - I'm always fascinated by how people come up with their names [29-Nov-21 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: who? [29-Nov-21 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: all of you :P [29-Nov-21 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ahh [29-Nov-21 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: when i was ten years old, my name was dragonslayer, but then i ran into a game with a 10 letter username limit, so i started fiddling around with different sounds after dragon and i arrived here [29-Nov-21 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: :) [29-Nov-21 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: the Ky and the mid capital letter come from a book I read forever ago. the ek was from a mobile mmo type game where someone called me vtec and I fiddled wiith it and the Z is from one of my previous usernames online. and then fiddled with it and went though different variations till I got to KyZekk [29-Nov-21 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: snd yeah lordcirth they are a bit to big, how much you selling them per unit? [29-Nov-21 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I usually have COF, KOM, RAT, DW up for sale. [29-Nov-21 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: alright [29-Nov-21 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ill take what ever anyone can get me for 1k ICA [29-Nov-21 06:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I just threw some COF and KOM ads up [29-Nov-21 06:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: 1K will get you maybe 3 or one of them. I put up batches of 10 [29-Nov-21 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: of [29-Nov-21 06:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: can I get three then? [29-Nov-21 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: 3 of what? [29-Nov-21 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: KOM? [29-Nov-21 07:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: sure [29-Nov-21 07:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I have an ad up [29-Nov-21 07:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: thanks! [29-Nov-21 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: np [29-Nov-21 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***vitaobscura5687** left.* [30-Nov-21 07:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: avalon -> hrt leaving in ~15m, half full [30-Nov-21 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: Hi @KyZekk, @MsOrange and @Dragonican, I've put up ads for the lots you won. Congratulations! [30-Nov-21 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ad is up [30-Nov-21 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: I owe you more than that btw [30-Nov-21 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: It's KyZekk - 3822 ICA, MsOrange 33522 ICA, Parafort - 41541 ICA, and Dragonican - 78750 ICA [30-Nov-21 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: Also, I think I'll decide not to run for governor this term, life has been too hectic for me now that university is back in person. I'm really sorry if I've been inactive and caused any problems, but on the other hand I do feel like I've achieved all I could and wanted to during my term as Governor. I hope that the new governor does a good job whatever they decide for Avalon! [30-Nov-21 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: Whoever wins, I'll pass them the amount in the treasury as well as any assets procured, and I'll work with them for a smooth transition [30-Nov-21 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: Thank you all for having me as your governor! [30-Nov-21 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: You've done a good job, yes. Do well in school [30-Nov-21 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I suspected Uni was kicking your arse a bit @yesplease - thanks for starting us out on this journey [30-Nov-21 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: yeah, uni really is swamping me hard [30-Nov-21 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: but yeah, now we have a functioning government! [30-Nov-21 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: +1 to all of the above. good luck with school! [30-Nov-21 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: I don't expect the next governor to keep the auction system, but the economics does work when there are more bidders (as seen from the CoGC bidding) and I'm happy to explain how to use the sheet from my end to the next governor [30-Nov-21 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: But at least, I think the treasury/assets accounts are really important so I'd expect them to keep using those ones [30-Nov-21 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I found it pretty good for the last round of auctions - now it's filling in most of the information for you [30-Nov-21 12:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: I'm glad you think so! [30-Nov-21 12:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: I wish I could google forms magic up a better UI for the auctions, but this is the best I can do [30-Nov-21 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: all UFObot does is send you a verified message, so it doesn't actually add much functionality to the thing given that we have the codeword system for verification [30-Nov-21 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: ooo smooth - won all the auctions I entered. go me. Thanks to Parafort for doubling the money I got for the OFF [30-Nov-21 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: let me know when you post teh ad for that very expensive DW! [30-Nov-21 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Crave** left.* [30-Nov-21 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: will do - I'll have to fire up the old PE machines as I ran our of H a while back and didn't replenish - shouldn't take long - the OFF I already have [30-Nov-21 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I'll wait to post the DW ad after I've fulfilled the PE order - unless you're going to be away for ages [30-Nov-21 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: nah, just post it now so I can pay you immediately [30-Nov-21 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: do you want me to post for the other 800? [30-Nov-21 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: anyone got some OVE to sell? posted 2 ads [30-Nov-21 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: thx [30-Nov-21 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Maces**: you're welcome [30-Nov-21 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: looking for HRT area shipper to run out to a resource planet for me, estimated 3 day round trip, 10k pay [30-Nov-21 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: oh? [30-Nov-21 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: seeing as yesplease has withdrawn, id like to restate that i am running for governor with the intent to maintain the POPI and COGC, as well as build another SST if needed. please go vote, democracy doesnt work without you voters :) [30-Nov-21 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: up to you @KyZekk [01-Dec-21 01:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: well its up [01-Dec-21 01:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: very nice, you have my vote dragon i like your energy [01-Dec-21 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Basale** joined.* [01-Dec-21 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: think it might be a good idea if we started to push some Techs, as well. [01-Dec-21 09:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: if other people show support for techs, we could consider further POPI on avalon. i wouldnt want to do it without popular support. [01-Dec-21 09:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: well, people are in need of them [01-Dec-21 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: people will need to come forward and voice their support for the idea. the typical resolution is "the majority of the vocal players dont use TEC, so the tax budget will not be allocated to TEC". if people speak otherwise, i am happy to plan towards it [01-Dec-21 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: as far as I know im the only one using techs [01-Dec-21 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I'll be joining you shortly [01-Dec-21 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: sweet! what building you putting down for tech if I may ask? [01-Dec-21 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: another decision to be made is, do you just want TEC? or do you want TEC ENG+? [01-Dec-21 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: PAR is better for overall development, but INF should be sufficient for just TECs, id think [01-Dec-21 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I would think we would want eng at some point in the future as well [01-Dec-21 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: ENG are very valuable, but not cheap. it would be expensive, and probably require raising taxes. i wouldnt do it unless the majority of vocal participants were in favor [01-Dec-21 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: would it make more economical sense to do a inf then a par if we plan on getting the eng anyways? [01-Dec-21 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: from the actions of others, i understand it as "if you want the ENG too, its better to just do the PAR" [01-Dec-21 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I would say we do that then. but that only if everyone else wants to as well [01-Dec-21 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MaxKalina** joined.* [01-Dec-21 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: welcome! [01-Dec-21 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: our planet-namer has finally arrived [01-Dec-21 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: wow [01-Dec-21 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: welcome! I remember when this was VH-331g! thank you for getting Avalon by Roxy Music stuck in my head every few days [01-Dec-21 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ElBibulo** left.* [01-Dec-21 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kryyoz** left.* [01-Dec-21 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: pg buy on lm [01-Dec-21 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf2282611ac** left.* [01-Dec-21 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***shiki** joined.* [01-Dec-21 08:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***shiki** left.* [01-Dec-21 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: I wasn't familiar with it so I pulled up the music video. "Lackluster" is a versatile word for both the song, the video, and the lyrics which have no connection with the one word refrain (oh, dear, I seem to be in the same loop as yesterday parsing Van Halen's "Panama"...) [01-Dec-21 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: I had been planning a base on VH-331g for about a month and when I loaded up my ships and set destination it suddenly had a name. [01-Dec-21 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: glad to see you old folk are still around :P [01-Dec-21 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: It's been called Avalon for a really long time now.... [02-Dec-21 12:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MindK** joined.* [02-Dec-21 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: 192 days since VH-331g got its name and 282 days since its birth. Though I may be a real old folk since I have this memory of it from a previous PrUniverse but named CR-409c. It could be that I was drinking Einsteinium-infused alcohol beyond my pay grade and it created recollections from another dimension...unless someone else had the same hallucination? [02-Dec-21 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Maces**: sell me 50 rat pls [02-Dec-21 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Maces**: @Dragonican [02-Dec-21 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: @dragonican - you cheeky whippersnapper! GET OFF MY LAWN! [02-Dec-21 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: (and I'm going to be 51 in 3 weeks so I guess I deserved that) [02-Dec-21 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I have food listed on the LM, feel free [02-Dec-21 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: @MsOrange, Happy early birthday! I turned 56 this past Oct ;) [02-Dec-21 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: yay I'm not the oldest nerfherder in town! [02-Dec-21 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: @rayKowalchuk - do you not "have" roxy music in Canada? admittedly it's really not a great song of theirs [02-Dec-21 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb32ac8f22b** left.* [02-Dec-21 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: @KyZekk, so bro, totally missed your messages there. I'm putting un an IVP, which needs 70 Techs, so it's going to hurt for a really long time, unfortunately [02-Dec-21 06:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: oof [02-Dec-21 06:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: yeah.... [02-Dec-21 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I dont think ill need more techs soon so all good [02-Dec-21 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: also selling HSE for 8k if anyone wants some [02-Dec-21 07:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: when does the Popi pop? do you know? [02-Dec-21 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: Wednesdays [02-Dec-21 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: ok, I'll throw mine up on tuesday, then [02-Dec-21 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: okay [02-Dec-21 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: hopefully that will give a decent boost [02-Dec-21 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: we had 3 techs for the longest time now we will have over 100 [02-Dec-21 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: we have 47 now? [02-Dec-21 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: 46 [02-Dec-21 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: got 27 in this last Popi [02-Dec-21 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: Happiness is shit... [02-Dec-21 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: might need to ad in the SUN for the safety station [02-Dec-21 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yeah I think I slurped them all up [02-Dec-21 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: you need 67 to be full? [02-Dec-21 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: 40 [02-Dec-21 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: for my PP3 [02-Dec-21 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: ok, so someone else has something that uses them, too [02-Dec-21 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ah [02-Dec-21 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: 21 open jobs [02-Dec-21 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: the open jobs number is from before growth [02-Dec-21 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: ah, ok [02-Dec-21 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: @MsOrange - It makes me feel a bit younger to see that Roxy Music was more of an influence to the music I listened to than of substantial familiarity to me. A DJ roomate of mine played Bryan Ferry a fair bit. I'm a bit astonished to see the Wikipedia page claiming Roxy Music Britain's 2nd greatest export after the Beatles (sorry Stones!). [03-Dec-21 06:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MoreColdOnesPlz** left.* [03-Dec-21 06:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sarge1892** joined.* [03-Dec-21 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: need emergency MCG, on LM [03-Dec-21 07:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sarge1892** left.* [03-Dec-21 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: How many? (answering emergency 4 hours later...) [03-Dec-21 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: How much for 25 rations [03-Dec-21 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Congrats @dragonican! [03-Dec-21 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I almost always have some food up for sale on the LM, so if you are in need, you will find some there for a reasonable price [03-Dec-21 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: sure [03-Dec-21 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: if you have at least Basic, anyways. If not, you are at the will and whim of the CX [03-Dec-21 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: thank you all for your support in the governal race. i hope to keep things chugging along just as they were before, for the most part [03-Dec-21 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anyone willing to trade my AL.IC1 and/or ALO.IC1 for BDE.IC1? [03-Dec-21 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: looking for 26 BDE [03-Dec-21 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Most I can do is 22 BDE [03-Dec-21 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: do you want AL, ALO, or a combination as payment? [03-Dec-21 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I don't have a ton of cash [03-Dec-21 06:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: (I'm about to go afk for a bit, but DM me here or on discord) [03-Dec-21 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: 100 TONS or 300 VOLUME to moria from avalon leaving in 1-2 hours [03-Dec-21 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bambino** joined.* [03-Dec-21 07:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bomnrc** left.* [04-Dec-21 12:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DodoSK** left.* [04-Dec-21 04:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: any chance we can expand the warehouses to rent more then 1 per person? [04-Dec-21 04:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: wed need to expand it twice, to level 3 [04-Dec-21 04:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i think that is a reasonable responsibility of the govt.; once yesplease transfers govt possessions and i can get a proper grasp on our coffers, im sure we could manage it before next required SST [04-Dec-21 04:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Michael_Le41** left.* [04-Dec-21 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: For those buying RAT and DW from me, please pick up your orders! [04-Dec-21 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Altura16**: is anyone selling C ? [04-Dec-21 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: How much do you need? [04-Dec-21 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: at LM just throw C up at mm price ive been dumping 100+ a day into the mm [04-Dec-21 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: you have to place your order above the MM, otherwise you will never get any [04-Dec-21 09:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: theres reasons for C to sell below LM, like shipping constraints [05-Dec-21 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: shipping prom to avalon on Prom LM if anyone is going that way [05-Dec-21 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dartzyt** joined.* [05-Dec-21 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: Switch it up if it ain't workin', but isn't it generally more likely to reach the eyes you need to post shipping contracts on the narrower focussed message board of the "satellite" planet (Avalon) than the "hub" (Promitor)? I DO generally check both if I've got cargo space, but if looking for a ride to (or from) NYC it would be better to post in the smaller departure/destination of Albany. [05-Dec-21 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: In lamenting Avalon songs being stuck in mind, when Promitor was called CR-409e my memory device was the Beach Boys' song "409" (which of course can get the whole Beach Boys discography wedged in the hindbrain..."giddy up, giddy up, 409...I wish they all could be California Girls") [05-Dec-21 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: Crunch time in film school and everyone was burning the midnight oil to get their projects edited we had competitions to get songs stuck in each other's heads. I won the prize for fastest-planted-seed by snapping my fingers and saying in a low voice, "A-jitterbug" [05-Dec-21 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chowb** joined.* [05-Dec-21 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: yeah no its right, I should probably post them here, but at the moment they are on Prom yeah ^^ [05-Dec-21 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: My dick brain can get a song stuck in my head spontaneously now - I don't have to hear it or even read the lyrics - I'm like "honestly why is 'this is halloween' suddenly stuck in my head, it's May?" [05-Dec-21 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: currently I am awaiting the chance to celebrate my half million ICA milestone. just 25k away. I guess I should put the money to work rather than sitting on it like space Smaug [05-Dec-21 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: OMG there was just a Disney+ ad on YouTube and I recognized the background music...but couldn't place it. I went throught my mental Disney catalog and came up empty...until the lyrics filled into my head. "What's This?" From Nightmare Before Christmas! I went WTF, that's not Disney...but of COURSE it now is. :-/ And therefore you'll hear it or "This is Halloween" anywhere and everywhere. [05-Dec-21 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: (I thought Tim Burton hated his ex-boss, Disney...) [05-Dec-21 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: pretty much everything is Disney these days they're the new Nestle [05-Dec-21 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***connora824** joined.* [05-Dec-21 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Willy999** left.* [06-Dec-21 12:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yesplease has transferred all govt possessions, and i am now prepared to cruise into this term. i will be using a copy of yesplease's sheet and adding on as we go, link at the bottom. i will tend to be more active politically over at the UFO server, particularly avalon-politics. I plan to exclusively use UFO-bot to conduct auctions; i have heard some people are uncomfortable using it, and i will be happy to assist people personally in using the bot. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nWJoSYpw04g1rEabodFV6aVe6f11_31rbs1CAo1f9lQ/edit#gid=1445561950 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nWJoSYpw04g1rEabodFV6aVe6f11_31rbs1CAo1f9lQ/edit Google Sheets - create and edit spreadsheets online, for free. Create a new spreadsheet and edit with others at the same time -- from your computer, phone or tablet. Get stuff done with or without an internet connection. Use Sheets to edit Excel files. Free from Google. [06-Dec-21 12:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: further, i intend to continue bidding in the auctions as i have before unless a large(5+) number of people believe i shouldnt. under the UFO system, i cannot see bids as they go on, and have just as much knowledge as a non-governor player [06-Dec-21 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Access denied to the sheet^ [06-Dec-21 12:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nWJoSYpw04g1rEabodFV6aVe6f11_31rbs1CAo1f9lQ/edit?usp=sharing {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nWJoSYpw04g1rEabodFV6aVe6f11_31rbs1CAo1f9lQ/edit?usp=sharing Avalon Democratic Organization Governance Sheet Dashboard designed by yesplease GOVERNMENT OF AVALON ,CHANGELOG Link: https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/hmQU3D4zplBMGG39l9zckUS5yEKpmIkv9_00Ewl95-g/https/lh6.googleusercontent.com/PrxegGUH7TsykthEMaEQqmRNAeunzWTPglgd29PjA0OlLmnIr8iuaYqUjBnhZUxvkAfF4d2AWhe-AQ%3Dw1200-h630-p [06-Dec-21 12:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i consistently do this everytime i share a sheet in PRUN [06-Dec-21 02:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **yesplease**: Ahhh I can finally close all the government sheet tabs [06-Dec-21 04:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: Buying TRU at 400/u on LM need emergency . thats about 100.ICA higher then CX ask [06-Dec-21 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shrike** joined.* [06-Dec-21 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: Food is listed on the LM, for those with hungry and thirsty people [07-Dec-21 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KyGuy** joined.* [07-Dec-21 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lei-Nei** joined.* [07-Dec-21 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Buying O and FLX immediately [07-Dec-21 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: 100 FLX is too much for me atm, unfortunately [07-Dec-21 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: how much FLX you need? [07-Dec-21 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I just signed for the 20 I placed the ad for, thanks. Still have an ad for 20 O [07-Dec-21 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: (gave up and went to HRT to grab some) [07-Dec-21 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Anyone making FF locally? I've got an ad on the LM [08-Dec-21 01:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***cthuhlu10** joined.* [08-Dec-21 01:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ETERNAL_STALIN** joined.* [08-Dec-21 02:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***amx_3000** joined.* [08-Dec-21 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I am, but having problems with GAL right now. Fixing the problem as we speak, but production is still shaky [08-Dec-21 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: I'm in need of 1 MG for PG production, I'll buy 10 for 500 if anyone can place the ad. [08-Dec-21 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: DM me if you can post it [08-Dec-21 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: do you make PG on avalon? [08-Dec-21 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: yes [08-Dec-21 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: cheaper to make it then to buy [08-Dec-21 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: nice how much a a unit og PG [08-Dec-21 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: if its for sale [08-Dec-21 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: about 6 [08-Dec-21 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: thats my production cost [08-Dec-21 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ah [08-Dec-21 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: using it in mk2 production and contracts if he price is resonable [08-Dec-21 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: PG for 6 ea? It's going for ~20 on CX [08-Dec-21 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: in self production, producing my own C also [08-Dec-21 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Ah, ok [08-Dec-21 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I've started comparing each stage's profit to CXP price; to represent opportunity cost, etc [08-Dec-21 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: i have also looked at that, had a welding plant before, but the margins where not that great and also did not produce enough to warrent the upkeep. [08-Dec-21 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: where to you farm your C? [08-Dec-21 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: 9 hours until my ship arrives at my new second base site... Impatient [08-Dec-21 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: I only have the incinerator, 3 of them. [08-Dec-21 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ah all on avalon? [08-Dec-21 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: and where you settling lordcirth? [08-Dec-21 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: yes, working on a second base on promiter [08-Dec-21 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: OF-375c. Gonna do all the FE-based metallurgy [08-Dec-21 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ooo lucky to get a spot [08-Dec-21 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: nice [08-Dec-21 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: There are 358 spots left. You must be thinking of a different planet [08-Dec-21 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: -b is Berthier [08-Dec-21 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: haven't got one yet, working on the core module, hopefully their is a spot available when im done [08-Dec-21 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Oh, you meant Promitor. nvrm [08-Dec-21 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: yes [08-Dec-21 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: got the name wrong [08-Dec-21 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: No, I thought kyzekk was saying I was lucky, OF-375c barely populated [08-Dec-21 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: ah [08-Dec-21 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I wish you luck on getting a spot [08-Dec-21 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: 1000 worker pop there. [08-Dec-21 10:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: almost barron [08-Dec-21 10:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: sorry about that lordcirth, congrats on the second base! [08-Dec-21 10:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Thanks! It's SEA, so technically T2 but hopefully cost-effective [08-Dec-21 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I settled a T3 planed a few weeks ago for that sweet sweet TIO and TCO [08-Dec-21 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Or does T2 refer only to base materials that require settlers/ [08-Dec-21 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: planet* [08-Dec-21 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I dunno how the identify the tiers [08-Dec-21 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: ooh, titanium. nice. Weird, it's actually lighter to ship the TIO? That works for you, I guess, since you don't want to build SMEs there with the extra cost [08-Dec-21 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: What's the main end product for TI? [08-Dec-21 10:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ship parts [08-Dec-21 10:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: and ASE [08-Dec-21 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: and the TCO is nice for HSE [08-Dec-21 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: though that stuff is heavy as crap [08-Dec-21 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Yeah, quite the change from BSE being the weirdly tiny product to sink FE into [08-Dec-21 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: heh yeah [08-Dec-21 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Buying FF [09-Dec-21 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Buying SF [09-Dec-21 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: what technician level buildings are people doing now technicians are a thing? [09-Dec-21 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: LAB for DDT, for one [09-Dec-21 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: yeah DDT seems expensive when people post it on Prom [09-Dec-21 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I'm wondering if I should stick with plastics and construction or move into some other thing [09-Dec-21 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: No more than two major industries per base, as a rule, due to experts [09-Dec-21 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: But yeah, staying within chem and teching up is a good idea [09-Dec-21 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: PP3 [09-Dec-21 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: Just for my 2 cents on LAB, one thing to keep in mind with DDT is that 80% of the cost is the consumables of the 70TECHs. So Lab products are price by Tech consumables more than by input materials. DDT is already at quite a low price, can get it for around 1,5k [09-Dec-21 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Perhaps the real money is to be made on those consumables... [09-Dec-21 02:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: In need of SF, 100 FOR 1100 [09-Dec-21 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: if you still do, post on the lm [09-Dec-21 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: only basic at the moment [09-Dec-21 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: can you post the ad and add the add fee? [09-Dec-21 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: sure posting it [09-Dec-21 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: you are a production/economy savior [09-Dec-21 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: haha no worries ^_^ [10-Dec-21 02:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MindK** left.* [10-Dec-21 04:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VENDRI1** joined.* [11-Dec-21 04:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RodgerEdJoo** joined.* [11-Dec-21 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Poli33** joined.* [11-Dec-21 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Floofyhair** joined.* [11-Dec-21 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I have 400 extra cargo on my ship coming back to avalon if anyone wants to hitch a ride [11-Dec-21 11:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: anyone just so happen to have aef around? need 2 at big price [12-Dec-21 03:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I make them but I don't have any hanging around I'm afraid [12-Dec-21 03:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I'm enjoying that your new corp is Avalon Democratic Organisation Dragonican :) none of that monarchy stutt :D [12-Dec-21 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: heh, im glad you noticed [12-Dec-21 03:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: Right team - off to London til tomorrow evening - don't blow up the planet whilst I'm gone [12-Dec-21 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: shipping ad posted on Prom LM from FK-037f to Prom, 10kICA. if any of you guys elect to take it, i could also find stuff for you to ship from Prom -> Avalon so youll get the double-return-home whammy [12-Dec-21 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***EHkhgkhaegkheg** joined.* [12-Dec-21 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***flyby714** joined.* [12-Dec-21 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: It's hard to get stuff shipped from Boucher. Seems the best bet is to ship to the CX [12-Dec-21 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: And I had assumed that MsOrange would be a big fan of the Royals... [12-Dec-21 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: the royalty in England is basically just a rubber stamp now [12-Dec-21 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: FK-037g isnt boucher, its an N gas giant in the region [12-Dec-21 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: *FK-037f [13-Dec-21 05:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: anyone making MCG around here? or having loads of them? [13-Dec-21 05:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: urgent delivery from HRT to Avalon if anyone can take that [13-Dec-21 05:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: LMA VH-331g/3213 [13-Dec-21 07:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: @Desan I have 566 MCG and am making more [13-Dec-21 08:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: uhh can I have them @lordcirth? whats your price [13-Dec-21 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: i need a total of 730 [13-Dec-21 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: @Desan 20ea? I will have 666 total in 1h8m; next batch will start after that. [13-Dec-21 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dartzyt** left.* [13-Dec-21 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***connora824** left.* [13-Dec-21 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: anyone going to CX in around 3h? [13-Dec-21 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: just left, whoops [13-Dec-21 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Got one arriving in 7h that could turn around if you have a large package [13-Dec-21 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: that would work for me yeah! yeah 450t at least [13-Dec-21 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Ok. It's pretty late for me, but I might still be up [13-Dec-21 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: okay, I will throw the ad up in 3h, if you are around once your ship is here feel free to take it. but don't feel obligated to stay up [13-Dec-21 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***YaBoiSlobodan** joined.* [13-Dec-21 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: Shipment to HRT up [13-Dec-21 11:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Looks like someone else took it [14-Dec-21 03:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: Is it time to build an infirmary? [14-Dec-21 03:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: do you think PIO or SET growth is lacking? [14-Dec-21 05:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: @lordcirth apparently, thanks for looking out for it though. Have another ad going HRT to Avalon though ;) [14-Dec-21 06:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: Missing a few settlers [14-Dec-21 06:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: maybe im growing to fast, maybe slow down and focus on profits instead for a while. [14-Dec-21 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: i would also like to add we're gonna need some scientist here in the future , any plans Mr.governor? [14-Dec-21 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: @helter you will get all the settlers you need come POPR, in 21h (by my predictions) [14-Dec-21 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: if you guys really want SCI on avalon, start spamming LABs (IVP work as well), then ill put the taxes as high as they can go and we will see what can be done :P [14-Dec-21 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: there was a line in this week's dev log about an upcoming feature that will make it easier to bootstrap higher-tech populations [14-Dec-21 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: "While the big politics rework is pretty much designed, it's been pushed back in our internal timeline for now, so we'll be trying to give you two more long-needed updates before the overhaul: government programs that will, among other things, (and along with an overall friendlier re-balancing) help you get high-tier workforces off the ground more easily; and another often requested option - tier-based taxation, i.e. governors will be able to specify taxes per workforce tier and no longer need to provide a "one-size-fits-all" tax value." [14-Dec-21 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i was 99% kidding about pushing high tech; and ill also wait until any feature is implemented before i consider it. though, if they keep their new years promise, thatd be great [14-Dec-21 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: well the immediate next line is "I'll finalize the design of both those features before my end-of-the-year vacation, so that they're ready to be part of an update early next year." [14-Dec-21 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: soooo [14-Dec-21 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: very likely, but i wont say guarenteed [14-Dec-21 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ah, I think I misunderstood what you meant by "new years promise". I thought you were suggesting that it would be done in time for the new year [14-Dec-21 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: i was the one who misread the original; early next year might end up being... not next year :P [14-Dec-21 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I've got a ship idling on Avalon, if anyone wants to give it something useful to do [14-Dec-21 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: LMA VH-331a/22650, and i can offer a prom->avalon shipment when the time comes. youll be getting paid 2/3 of the way :) [14-Dec-21 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: not really, its like 65% [14-Dec-21 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Sounds like a plan [14-Dec-21 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: I have another shipment to HRT in 4h, 450t. @lordcirth [14-Dec-21 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: @Desan, thanks, I won't have a ship back for a while now [14-Dec-21 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: roger that. [14-Dec-21 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Heh, one way to get your shipping ad accepted quickly is to accidentally list it for double the rate you intended >.< [14-Dec-21 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: lol [14-Dec-21 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cornbread2100** joined.* [14-Dec-21 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: anyone got a small amount of H going - in my covid addled state I just pressed accept on my flight back from HRT without looking of adjusting and it's going to be 2.3 days [14-Dec-21 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: GRUMBLE [14-Dec-21 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: If not I'll have to buy some and send my second (HRT -> Prom) ship from HRT [14-Dec-21 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: or I guess I could just lay off the PE and PG for a few days [14-Dec-21 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: like how much? I am using 450 a day at the moment, but I might be able to help out with a few if you need it [14-Dec-21 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: shipment to HRT up if anyone is going that way [14-Dec-21 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NotAlwaysNumberOne** joined.* [15-Dec-21 01:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AI-overlord** joined.* [15-Dec-21 04:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: you use 450 H per day :O [15-Dec-21 04:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: Chriminey [15-Dec-21 04:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: s'ok I'll ride it out :) [15-Dec-21 04:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: throw up the ad [15-Dec-21 04:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: put up a tiny one [15-Dec-21 04:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: so, out of the 811 open jobs before the POPR, 777 got filled, meaning there are 44 unfilled settler jobs right now. i think thats fine, any one think settlers need additional attention? [15-Dec-21 04:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: just bought a load on Prom and I have a bunch coming now. I blame my stupid lurgy - I enjoy adjusting the flight time nomally but just pressed "go go go!" [15-Dec-21 04:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: just built myself a technician habitation ahead of deciding what to move into [15-Dec-21 04:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I figured it has no upkeep so I should just chuck it up [15-Dec-21 04:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: how do u give attention to a specific population? i thoguht it was more or less keep health and stuff up and the people will slowly come over time [15-Dec-21 04:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: thanks Assanova :) [15-Dec-21 04:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: each need affects different populations differently, but mostly im just checking in on our settler-employers [15-Dec-21 04:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: you may not have a reserve pool to draw from, but if you place your buildings down shortly before POPR, the rest will do its magic and youll get what you need [15-Dec-21 06:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: My settler related production time halved with the latest numbers [15-Dec-21 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: yup, should be fine now [15-Dec-21 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: just remember in the future, if you want more settlers, youll need to throw it up before POPR [15-Dec-21 06:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: first time this issue has come up for me, lack of workers. Gonna plan my further expanse with the population in mind. [15-Dec-21 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KyGuy** left.* [15-Dec-21 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: heh, I demolished a bunch of PIO buildings this morning. I forgot it was POPR day [15-Dec-21 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: pain... at least PIOs should have a reserve pool [15-Dec-21 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Peng4in** joined.* [15-Dec-21 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Wow, LM is really empty these days [15-Dec-21 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: people were complaining how much there was. [15-Dec-21 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I'll be posting up some food for people in a few mins [15-Dec-21 06:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: also, as usual, will post another shipping ad to HRT in 1h =D [15-Dec-21 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: PP2 havers ,, i require ur assistance. just 1 AEF please 🙏 anytime within 4 days [15-Dec-21 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I might be able to [15-Dec-21 11:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: Small chance i will be able to, 3 days for moria to return and ship from hortus inbound, just need to buy the neon [16-Dec-21 12:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***cthuhlu10** left.* [16-Dec-21 01:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***fappo** joined.* [16-Dec-21 07:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***YoungCapitalist** joined.* [16-Dec-21 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: there you go - had 2 in stock [16-Dec-21 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: people who understand population mechanics better than I do: if I create jobs for 100 settlers, will they get filled immediately, next wednesday, or none of the above? [16-Dec-21 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: you will get some number of settlers next wednesday, and 0 until then, based on last weeks report showing 0 unemployed settlers [16-Dec-21 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: :'( [16-Dec-21 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I suppose the question is whether it's worth building the buildings now so I don't forget in a week [16-Dec-21 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I already have the materials [16-Dec-21 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: wait as long as possible so the building doesnt take any durability loss while it has 0 employees. but 1 or 2 days of lost durability is really not a big deal anyways [16-Dec-21 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I already have some settlers. iiuc they get distributed across the buildings, right? [16-Dec-21 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: so I'd have 8x PP2 at 50% capacity, rather than 4x at 100% and 4x idle [16-Dec-21 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: if you have settles assigned to you already that are unemployed (number in parenthesis) they will fill any open jobs immediately [16-Dec-21 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: alas, no [16-Dec-21 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: but if you have settlers in other buildings, and you want to move them, you would need to demolish the old building after building the new one, im pretty sure that you'd keep them in your pool until the next POPI [16-Dec-21 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I don't want to move them. Just building more instances of the buildings I already have [16-Dec-21 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: yeah. just need to build it before the next POPI report then [16-Dec-21 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: and you will get some [16-Dec-21 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: but probably not a full buildings worth if they are in high demand atm [16-Dec-21 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: you might tho idk really xD [16-Dec-21 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: guess we'll find out [16-Dec-21 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***amx_3000** left.* [17-Dec-21 05:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maximoose** joined.* [17-Dec-21 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hastati** joined.* [17-Dec-21 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maximoose** left.* [17-Dec-21 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***joshcrouse** joined.* [17-Dec-21 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Buying FF [17-Dec-21 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Paiolzim** joined.* [17-Dec-21 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: I got you [17-Dec-21 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **joshcrouse**: hey [17-Dec-21 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Hi! [17-Dec-21 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: ooooo fresh blood.... [17-Dec-21 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: erm I mean, "hello fellow human" [17-Dec-21 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: @Bant, who do you expect to buy 250k of COF? [17-Dec-21 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: santa, of course! [17-Dec-21 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **joshcrouse**: hey [17-Dec-21 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: hi [17-Dec-21 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: @lordcirth well, my first ad sold, so someone =) [17-Dec-21 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: yikes [17-Dec-21 07:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I mean I like coffee but that's over half of my current wealth [17-Dec-21 11:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mrkB** joined.* [18-Dec-21 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: =) the pruniverse runs on COF [18-Dec-21 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Naptha** joined.* [18-Dec-21 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I have a ship headed to Avalon form the CX that has 250T left in its cargo [18-Dec-21 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: will leave in the next 12 hours [19-Dec-21 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Poli33** left.* [19-Dec-21 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gartesh** joined.* [19-Dec-21 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: welcome gartesh! [19-Dec-21 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gartesh**: :) [19-Dec-21 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Buying AL immediately [19-Dec-21 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I have some [19-Dec-21 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Got your ad [19-Dec-21 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Thanks! [19-Dec-21 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I totally forgot to buy AL until my ship left [19-Dec-21 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: No problem! [19-Dec-21 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: Oh Hello there @gartesh :) [19-Dec-21 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: @lordcirth https://i.imgur.com/9V6f2Se.png :PES_kingsip: {Embed} https://imgur.com/9V6f2Se https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/3Ekw3gub62mvW-ift6IoXCQrG7SLrb5MwhUh3ucq2FM/https/i.imgur.com/9V6f2Se.png [19-Dec-21 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: O_o [19-Dec-21 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I guess I am selling KOM by the 100, but on the CX [20-Dec-21 06:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***EvilFonti** joined.* [20-Dec-21 07:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: avalon -> HRT leaving in a few minutes [20-Dec-21 07:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: me! [20-Dec-21 07:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: did i make it in time? [20-Dec-21 07:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Yes, but I think someone else grabbed it? I don't see it [20-Dec-21 07:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: left [20-Dec-21 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chellger** joined.* [20-Dec-21 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***flyby714** left.* [20-Dec-21 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: anyone need something shipped from the CX? [21-Dec-21 07:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Saabo** joined.* [21-Dec-21 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Atom194** joined.* [21-Dec-21 09:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BlueMint** joined.* [21-Dec-21 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***wockow** joined.* [21-Dec-21 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anybody need BSE/BBH/BTA before I send a load to the CX? 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I actually need a bit more >.< [22-Dec-21 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: new ads incoming [22-Dec-21 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: no problem, usually plenty more around [22-Dec-21 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: FF ad up too [22-Dec-21 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: thanks! 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Now that I have my GAL pipeline working properly, SF is running smooth [24-Dec-21 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: Nicee where are you getting it from? [24-Dec-21 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***popcornCZP** joined.* [24-Dec-21 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***popcornCZP** left.* [24-Dec-21 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: LB-599a [24-Dec-21 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: what are you going to output on SF? [24-Dec-21 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: Not the gal source in system? It doesn't seem so bad [25-Dec-21 06:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hastati** left.* [25-Dec-21 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Paiolzim** left.* [25-Dec-21 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Janm** joined.* [25-Dec-21 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***tadear** joined.* [25-Dec-21 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***joshcrouse** left.* [26-Dec-21 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheRealHypo** joined.* [26-Dec-21 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fridai** left.* [26-Dec-21 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: that planet sucks, tbh. Very expensive to build on. LB is halfway point to/from Moria, so it works out well for me [26-Dec-21 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Naptha** left.* [27-Dec-21 04:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***maddocmedicine** joined.* [27-Dec-21 07:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: When can we expect a new batch of settler? I am in need of almost 70 and have plans for around 200. [27-Dec-21 07:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: 2 more days according to the population report that happens every 7 days [27-Dec-21 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: i have no understanding of how populations growth works =) [27-Dec-21 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: Made an huge mistake and didn't leave any money for production, anyone in need of anything for LM sale [27-Dec-21 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: ? [27-Dec-21 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: AEF, BBH, LBH, NL, PE, PG ? anyone in need? [27-Dec-21 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: DW and RAT also for sale [27-Dec-21 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'm thinking about starting up another base. How much for LBH? [27-Dec-21 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ...wait, nevermind. A CM doesn't need lbh [27-Dec-21 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'll take NL though [27-Dec-21 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: 100 PG for 1700? [27-Dec-21 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: let me get a price for the NL [27-Dec-21 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'll need 4 [27-Dec-21 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: i got 4, 1700 a piece? 6500 for 4? [27-Dec-21 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Sold [27-Dec-21 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'll make the ad? [27-Dec-21 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: only basic user at the moment, 6500 plus the add price and i fill it pronto [27-Dec-21 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: Yes please do [27-Dec-21 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Oh, I did a dumb in your favor. The ad is up [27-Dec-21 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: (my brain isn't working and I added the 53 ica to my price) [27-Dec-21 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: It would cost me the same amount to take it down and redo it [27-Dec-21 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: alright with me, i'm the one in more need of ica then NL [27-Dec-21 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: only ha 48 ICA and my nerest flight is 15h away [27-Dec-21 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'm also going to need PG [27-Dec-21 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: how much are you in need of? [27-Dec-21 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: One sec [27-Dec-21 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'll get back to you in like 5 min [27-Dec-21 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: at the moment I got all the ICA i need at the moment [27-Dec-21 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: I got 300 PG I can sell [27-Dec-21 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'm gonna need 480, but I'll take what you can spare [27-Dec-21 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: how much a piece? [27-Dec-21 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: 16.66? 5k for 300? [27-Dec-21 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: its a deal, post the add and i'll fill it [27-Dec-21 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Posted. Thanks! [27-Dec-21 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: Thanks for doing business. [27-Dec-21 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: Really got me out of a prod pinch there [27-Dec-21 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I've been there :P [27-Dec-21 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I've got half a ship full heading HRT -> avalon if anyone has cargo they need moved [27-Dec-21 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jik** joined.* [28-Dec-21 05:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I need to buy 100RAT and DW [28-Dec-21 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: posted 2 sells for you [28-Dec-21 05:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lucius_Specter** joined.* [28-Dec-21 06:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: thanks! [28-Dec-21 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LordSlinky** joined.* [28-Dec-21 09:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anybody running a PPF locally? [28-Dec-21 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Yikes, it's apparently been 4 days since I checked in. [28-Dec-21 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: oooops guess who forgot to play over Xmas :D [28-Dec-21 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: only one of my queues is still running and I ran out of food [28-Dec-21 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: hey I remembered to play and I still ran out of food (on my other base, but still) [28-Dec-21 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***benisarius** left.* [28-Dec-21 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: I have two shipping ads on Avalon LM from HRT (190m3 ea). Would be happy if someone could take those ^_^ [29-Dec-21 01:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: I have a PPF running, bur the settler shortage is hitting me hard so almost half production time [29-Dec-21 02:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chellger** left.* [29-Dec-21 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: anyone need something ship to prom>? [29-Dec-21 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: and off. 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I just threw a pile of logs on the fire (So did @Dragonicorp) but was short MCG. [30-Dec-21 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: Made a small contribution of MCG and that seemed enough. Made a small contribution for next upkeep also [30-Dec-21 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: aaaand I'm bc [30-Dec-21 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: *back with fed workers :D [30-Dec-21 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: still typing badly though :D [30-Dec-21 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: rightio - is there anything I should be doing to help the planet? [30-Dec-21 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dazu27** left.* [30-Dec-21 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anybody have cargo avalon->prom? I'm sending a ship that way in an hour or two and it's not as full as I expected [30-Dec-21 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***felisak** left.* [30-Dec-21 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***super_coder2** joined.* [30-Dec-21 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Galzein** left.* [30-Dec-21 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kitrex** left.* [30-Dec-21 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Under150** left.* [31-Dec-21 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: welcome back, MsOrange [31-Dec-21 03:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Buycry** left.* [31-Dec-21 03:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hastati** joined.* [31-Dec-21 05:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jakobik** left.* [31-Dec-21 08:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Majnery** left.* [31-Dec-21 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I just established my third base and I still don't really feel like an "established player" [31-Dec-21 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Who knew imposter syndrome was real even in prun [31-Dec-21 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheVosulk** left.* [31-Dec-21 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: lol [31-Dec-21 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: looking to buy 3 BBH and 6 BDE [31-Dec-21 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: also I will be posting bids for upkeep mats here in the next few days so keep an eye out. [31-Dec-21 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I have BBH if you're still looking [31-Dec-21 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: congrats to our new Gov'ner [01-Jan-22 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I indeed am still looking [01-Jan-22 02:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I have some BDE on Prom. I'll ship some down with the next ship [01-Jan-22 02:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: alrighty [01-Jan-22 03:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***fugas** left.* [01-Jan-22 05:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Put up a buy ad for the BBH.IC1 and I'll fill it as soon as i see it [01-Jan-22 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***warherothe3rd** left.* [01-Jan-22 09:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: k its up [01-Jan-22 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: @KyZekk, I have 10 BDE on planet now. 985/u. Post for as many as you need, up to 10 ;) [01-Jan-22 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: cool ill take 6 [01-Jan-22 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: blimey I missed a whole election! what happened to Dragonican? Grats KyZekk :D [01-Jan-22 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: @Talmar - are you still around? If you've gone to bed I'll pick up KyZekk's order (I'll leave it an hour) [01-Jan-22 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: also happy new space year [01-Jan-22 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I think he just decided not to run [01-Jan-22 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: yeah, I got busy with a bunch of other things. I see someone grabbed it already [01-Jan-22 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: yeah sorry that was me - I was worried that kyzekk needed them in a hurry [01-Jan-22 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I guess being governor is a bit more time consuming than people think it will be [01-Jan-22 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I'm currently playing subnautica but I get pretty motion sick so have to take breaks to recover - this is probably helpful to my playing of PrUn :D [01-Jan-22 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: lol, a great game [01-Jan-22 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: it is great but I find it fucking terrifying and try to be back in my base at night :D [01-Jan-22 11:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: you're making it sound more like 7 Days to Die now! [02-Jan-22 01:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: It certainly has its scary moments [02-Jan-22 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GamePEr28** joined.* [02-Jan-22 06:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: turns out I'm more afraid of the dark than I thought I was :D [02-Jan-22 06:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: LOL [02-Jan-22 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: if anyone is making fuel or has some sitting around, I just posted some buys on the LM [02-Jan-22 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I need some Rat and Dw if anyone has any for sale [03-Jan-22 04:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I usually have food and fuel, but one of my corpmates just wiped me out. It'll be a couple days before I can supply everyone again [03-Jan-22 06:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: Talmar's convenience is CLOSED for the holidays :D [03-Jan-22 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: just bad timing. Corpmate was on vacation over the holiday, so ran out of basically everything, so he came in and wiped me out. Plus I also just sent a bunch of food off to Montem. So that double whammy brought my supplies down to nothing [03-Jan-22 07:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: oooof [03-Jan-22 10:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Estrian** joined.* [03-Jan-22 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: Today's musings - given it's only use is in Kevlar production and the price it sells would make Kevlar way more expensive than it sells for how come the makers of TCL are selling it for 1200 when it costs about 350 to make? Who could possibly be buying it? [03-Jan-22 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: this is caused by me updating my spreadsheet to reflect the things I could make at a PP3 and going 'nope not making that even though I could make the kevlar myself' [03-Jan-22 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I think you are overlooking the consumables costs there, which is significant [03-Jan-22 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: TCL should be closer to 1400, tbh [03-Jan-22 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I shouldn't be - I calculate an hourly running rate for each of my buildings based on their consumables [03-Jan-22 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: but if that is the case how come KV sells for 5-6k given it has 5 of them in? [03-Jan-22 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: (ooo I probably am aren't I because I don't actually own a LAB - my bad :D) [03-Jan-22 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: yeah, LABs are expensive to run [03-Jan-22 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: no idea why KV is so 'cheap' then [03-Jan-22 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: if you see someone selling KV for 5 or 6K, I would grab it! LOL! that's stupid cheap! [03-Jan-22 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: Actually, I just grabbed all of that! :D [03-Jan-22 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: those should sell for about 10K. no idea why people are selling them at a loss [03-Jan-22 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheRealHypo** left.* [03-Jan-22 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Saxx6ix** left.* [03-Jan-22 05:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Running at a loss to bootstrap TEC for other buildings, perhaps [04-Jan-22 04:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***maddocmedicine** left.* [04-Jan-22 07:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I would think that they would sell them directly, and not just throw them up on the CX like that [04-Jan-22 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***aids1234** joined.* [04-Jan-22 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: welcome aids. Looking to make fuel here on Avalon? [05-Jan-22 12:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rhuuga** joined.* [05-Jan-22 02:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***K63** joined.* [05-Jan-22 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***undefinedSymbol** joined.* [05-Jan-22 06:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Janm** left.* [05-Jan-22 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: Auction is up for COGC upkeep [05-Jan-22 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I don't see any division into lots, can we specify how much we can provide? [05-Jan-22 08:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I have no Idea. this is my first time using the bot [05-Jan-22 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I mean, the bot lets us enter arbitrary strings, as far as I can tell [05-Jan-22 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: well then bid for as much as you can then [05-Jan-22 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LordSlinky** left.* [05-Jan-22 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: UGH the bot - this is why I gave up bidding - I could just about cope with a webform [05-Jan-22 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ahhhh im sorry :/ I dunno how to run the form [05-Jan-22 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: not your fault - more of a mental block of mine - my brain works in spreadsheets not bots :) [05-Jan-22 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: understandable [06-Jan-22 02:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: any BMP owners? exo is completely empty on the CX [06-Jan-22 04:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: Thanks for the heads up, can look on starting a production on in [06-Jan-22 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I had to stop because I ran out of RCO. I will restart [06-Jan-22 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Nearly empty ship Avalon -> HRT leaving soon [06-Jan-22 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Left [06-Jan-22 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***K63** left.* [06-Jan-22 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I usually have some RCO, so if you need a little, let me know [06-Jan-22 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: If some have just 200 water to spare i would appreciate it. LM is up. Thx in advanced [06-Jan-22 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kevdaddy** joined.* [07-Jan-22 04:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrDeDz** left.* [07-Jan-22 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DarkGrid** joined.* [07-Jan-22 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: anyone need something shipped to the CX? [07-Jan-22 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: never mind [07-Jan-22 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: also bids are up for the COGC upkeep [07-Jan-22 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: just realized that we have a pretty good worker shortage here on Avalon [07-Jan-22 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: yeah :( [07-Jan-22 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I dont know what happend we had over 40000 Pios [07-Jan-22 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Well, Safety is only 54% [07-Jan-22 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: looks like I need to set up bids for OFF and/or SUN [07-Jan-22 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: lordcirth, sent you a PM earlier [07-Jan-22 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: @lordcirth I've sent you a PM about that contract you picked up. Would be nice if you answered me. [07-Jan-22 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Got it [07-Jan-22 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: ey hi all one question: why this planet is lossing population since the last 3 weeks? [07-Jan-22 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: need to up the SST upkeep [07-Jan-22 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: ok thx for the answer [07-Jan-22 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: im setting up an auction for it now [07-Jan-22 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: where is it?? [07-Jan-22 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: its on the ufo discord under avalon politics [07-Jan-22 06:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***super_coder2** left.* [08-Jan-22 06:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: buying ove on lm~ above CX [08-Jan-22 06:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: prices [08-Jan-22 07:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: oo I have some OFF [08-Jan-22 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dreistein**: anyone want to spend 5 BBH for Warehouse upgrade ? im delivering the TRU atm [08-Jan-22 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dreistein**: or fill the Buy order on LM, and i spend it. [08-Jan-22 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: you know you only get the option to rent multiple units at level 3 right? [08-Jan-22 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: sure, order filled [08-Jan-22 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I'm finally getting into the black [08-Jan-22 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: is that the right term? [08-Jan-22 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: positive money? yep [09-Jan-22 01:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mrkB** left.* [09-Jan-22 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: anyone have one BBH for sale? [09-Jan-22 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: yeah, I can help [09-Jan-22 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: put up an ad [09-Jan-22 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Talmar** deleted this message.* [09-Jan-22 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: @KyZekk [09-Jan-22 08:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: how much? [09-Jan-22 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: just make it a reasonable price [09-Jan-22 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: and up [09-Jan-22 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: got it [09-Jan-22 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: thanks! [09-Jan-22 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: no problem. And you overcharged yourself! LOL! [09-Jan-22 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: oh I know. I was in a bind and you helped me out in a timely fashion [09-Jan-22 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: what I'm here for [09-Jan-22 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: thanks! [09-Jan-22 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: just keep the planet running smooth, is all I ask [09-Jan-22 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: im trying lol [09-Jan-22 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: looks like our COCG is going to go dark in like 3 hours [09-Jan-22 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yeah I have an auction up on the ufo bot [09-Jan-22 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: well, I just threw 50 DW/RAT's in to help out [09-Jan-22 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: but I might have to spend some money to buy upkeep from the cx for this week [09-Jan-22 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I just shipped of a bunch of dw/rat too. Didn't know it was this close to the line [09-Jan-22 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: and I just thew in the MCG [09-Jan-22 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yeah was busy over the holidays and couldnt set up the bids to midway though last week [09-Jan-22 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: yeah, RL gets in the way sometimes [09-Jan-22 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: that it does [09-Jan-22 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: just glad I had a ship at the cx [09-Jan-22 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: good [09-Jan-22 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: that ship will be here in 2 hours [09-Jan-22 10:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: chucked some PE at it - what's the outcome of it being partially fulfilled - is it a waste or does it have some effect? [09-Jan-22 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I have no idea no one has told me what happens if its not [09-Jan-22 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: oh dear did Dragonican not pass on some fatherly tips when he left? [09-Jan-22 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: not a whole lot. [09-Jan-22 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: bums - I guess there may be other people around with some experience who might help - is it worth asking on the help channel or in one of the discord groups? [09-Jan-22 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I can ask someone in my corp [09-Jan-22 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: but I would rather not find out [09-Jan-22 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: so the ship I have coming is full of stuff to finish the upkeep [09-Jan-22 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I think the CoGC does nothing but also consumes nothing [09-Jan-22 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEnvoy**: My COGC taxes are fulfilled. Only PE left. [09-Jan-22 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: Fix the PE [09-Jan-22 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: FIxed i mean [09-Jan-22 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: awesom [09-Jan-22 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I'm such an idiot I managed to run out of powertools even though I actually make them - I guess that's the way when you start using your BMP for other things (like OFF and SUN for the auction :D) [09-Jan-22 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***drwilson** joined.* [09-Jan-22 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Simsorion** left.* [10-Jan-22 12:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **WordedWheel**: Dont worry about OFF and SUN for now. Just chucked some in the SST. Bringing more back from CX on the next trip (200 SUN, 400 OFF) [10-Jan-22 12:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **WordedWheel**: I have spare PT if you need some [10-Jan-22 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GamePEr28** left.* [10-Jan-22 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: nah I'm good now - I just had to slip some into much schedule :D [10-Jan-22 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: thanks though :) [10-Jan-22 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: does anyone have 1 LDE I could buy? trying to expand, and I'm short by 1 [10-Jan-22 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Yup [10-Jan-22 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: LMA VH-331g/3666 [10-Jan-22 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I'll put up an ad. How much do you want for it? [10-Jan-22 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: are you saying it's on G? [10-Jan-22 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I just posted the ad, that's the link [10-Jan-22 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: 1 for 4000$ [10-Jan-22 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: thanks [10-Jan-22 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: np [10-Jan-22 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: is there anything we can do to encourage more population? [10-Jan-22 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: population mechanics are still largely mysterious to me [10-Jan-22 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Supplying the SST [10-Jan-22 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: our safety and health numbers could be higher. That would probably help a lot [10-Jan-22 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: what about upgrading it? [10-Jan-22 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: or are we bottlenecked on supplies regardless? [10-Jan-22 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Upgrading would let us run on cheaper materials; that's why we built the second level SST in the first place, so we could run on cheap DW [10-Jan-22 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: But the 3rd level costs a more, so going DW+OFF may be better [10-Jan-22 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: I am working on getting chemical plant so i could start off and sun production. [10-Jan-22 02:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I make BSE and BBH. I can contribute some of those to an upgrade [10-Jan-22 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: This is from Promitor [10-Jan-22 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vOnHAefV4ZCftCHSIeMCs5wrXCNzKBbTiMxQ811T_xU/edit#gid=0 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vOnHAefV4ZCftCHSIeMCs5wrXCNzKBbTiMxQ811T_xU/edit Governorship Accounting Landing Responsible Governorship Accounting v0.2 Hover over the underlined items to see the link General Recording,People,Inf. Upkeep General Ledger,Auction REPORTING,Diagnostics,Inf. Investment View Financial Statement... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/WNBaxZsZmCi5CSFLjbINB1YybJpUIviD_QOQD96P_4Y/https/lh6.googleusercontent.com/q8rRzykCrPrH_ZerQbiVtyVTRKdzD3RWC-63FGAffLo6-mHbcmo0Q8oPS-abW_C19AUHmku6kizhhQ%3Dw1200-h630-p [10-Jan-22 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: Does not the actual governor have something similar?? where are our taxes??? [10-Jan-22 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lspedro** joined.* [10-Jan-22 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: we did until the person in charge of the sheet left. [10-Jan-22 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: now Im trying the best I can. I have an auction up on the ufo discord for SST upkeep [10-Jan-22 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: so far only 2 people have bid on it [10-Jan-22 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Davey00** joined.* [10-Jan-22 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Davey00**: is there a way to just give up and start over? [10-Jan-22 06:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: use comand COLIQ [10-Jan-22 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Davey00** left.* [10-Jan-22 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I've got an ad for 400 MCG, if someone can help me out. [10-Jan-22 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Boomtetris** left.* [11-Jan-22 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: ok, in order to help the Pop problem, I have almost built an Infirmery (will talk to the Gov about compensation later) All it needs is 300 MCG and some OFF to get it running [11-Jan-22 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I have neither of these goods, so hopefully someone can step up and make it happen [11-Jan-22 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: made a small deposit of 73 MCG, all i have at the moment [11-Jan-22 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: waiting for a shipment of MCG should be here soon [11-Jan-22 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I popped 50 Off in - I'll make some more for the auction [11-Jan-22 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Maces**: do you guys have PT? [11-Jan-22 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Yeah, I can do 25 PT immediately and more soon [11-Jan-22 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: @Maces how much do you want? [12-Jan-22 01:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Coolm3n70** joined.* [12-Jan-22 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZXVS** joined.* [12-Jan-22 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8a42a2f854** left.* [12-Jan-22 10:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anybody making BDE / have any on hand? [12-Jan-22 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: 5 [12-Jan-22 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: ah you need more than that [12-Jan-22 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Doxen** joined.* [12-Jan-22 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: @msorange I put up another buy ad [12-Jan-22 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: I got 4 BDE that i can sell, starting production on a fifth [13-Jan-22 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rhuuga** left.* [13-Jan-22 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Snotz** joined.* [13-Jan-22 09:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I think I'm good on BDE for the immediate moment, but I may need more in the not-too-distant future [13-Jan-22 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I did realize that I'm an idiot for making DW without PG though, so I put up a buy ad for PG if anyone has some [13-Jan-22 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***maresbu** joined.* [13-Jan-22 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: hey everyone I put up some ads for BSE MCG BDE at market price if anyone can help me out, tysm [13-Jan-22 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: just put up a buy ad for LST if anyone can fill urgently [13-Jan-22 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: above market [13-Jan-22 11:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I just shipped all my BFabs up to Prom, so just missed ya [13-Jan-22 11:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: And it don't mean you are an idiot for making DW without PG. It's actually faster to make it that way, so if you have lots of excess water, it's not a bad idea at all. If you are really tight on water, then it's a bad idea! [14-Jan-22 12:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'm just turning up my food industries (I got tired of paying for RAT and DW, so I plopped a base on prom) [14-Jan-22 12:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: so everything is all out of balance [14-Jan-22 05:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: if anyone is going Prom - Avalon, I have an ad on Prom LM :) [14-Jan-22 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEnvoy**: Any Carbon producers on Avalon? [14-Jan-22 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anybody have cargo avalon -> HRT (->ANT -> Deimos)? [14-Jan-22 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: @TheEnvoy - No I make it on Prom but use it on avalon [14-Jan-22 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: @MsOrange I have your bids ready to go just let me know when your on [14-Jan-22 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: @thejeffcooper if you still haven't left I can organize a shipment. how much space do you have? [14-Jan-22 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: avalon -> hrt [14-Jan-22 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: yeah how does it work in the new system [14-Jan-22 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: do you need to just put up a buy at 1 and I need to do a sell at 1 [14-Jan-22 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: nah ill just put up the full ad [14-Jan-22 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I mean I think that went ok but I worried briefly that I'd stolen the other fella's massively higher offers :D [14-Jan-22 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: nah [14-Jan-22 11:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kevdaddy** left.* [15-Jan-22 04:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: i will make a trip from MOR to >Avalon i a couple hours 300 free space if someone needs something [15-Jan-22 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DarkGrid** left.* [15-Jan-22 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***whizzo55** left.* [15-Jan-22 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: @armorlord I never actually did the trip. my ship is basically empty [15-Jan-22 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I just have return cargo [15-Jan-22 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***armorlord** deleted this message.* [15-Jan-22 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: no problem, another time [15-Jan-22 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Coldrain** joined.* [16-Jan-22 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SomeGuy1345** joined.* [16-Jan-22 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Excalibur643** joined.* [16-Jan-22 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Geo_Biroxio** joined.* [16-Jan-22 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***stackem** joined.* [17-Jan-22 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Empire12** joined.* [17-Jan-22 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***IshNarGarn** joined.* [17-Jan-22 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: welcome! [17-Jan-22 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **IshNarGarn**: ty & hi, finally i arrived here [17-Jan-22 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **IshNarGarn**: any idea, if i can make a screen template which i can use for new base? switching back and forth is no fun [17-Jan-22 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: you can make multiple screens, but you can't duplicate or make a proper template sadly [17-Jan-22 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **IshNarGarn**: 13 tiles for each base, properly aligned is quite some work [17-Jan-22 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: it is, on the other hand, one start playing around with it again =D and its not every day you make a new base ^^ [17-Jan-22 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: but I agree, template would be nice [17-Jan-22 12:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **IshNarGarn**: that's true, i'm playing quite casual, so it takes some longer until new base [17-Jan-22 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***drwilson** left.* [17-Jan-22 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CMDR.GRIMX** joined.* [18-Jan-22 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I don't have a separate screen for base. I have all of my Base Overviews, and base inventories, and my ships, on one screen. I have all of my extra warehouses on another screen, I have the LM's on a third screen, and I have the main chats I use on a 4th screen [18-Jan-22 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: Having all of my base overviews and inventories on one screen really helps when I'm trying to figure out logistics [18-Jan-22 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **IshNarGarn**: i have dedicated LM- and chat-screens, too, but all base overviews and inventories is a good point to try again. had such setup in last universe but on small screen, was not that much helpful back then [18-Jan-22 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: screen size matters [18-Jan-22 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **IshNarGarn**: i know, and i'm happy now 4K on large screen is great for PrUn [18-Jan-22 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **IshNarGarn**: but switching screens with lot of tiles takes a moment [18-Jan-22 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Geo_Biroxio** left.* [18-Jan-22 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: if anyone has cargo prom -> avalon, I've got a ship doing that route in a few hours [18-Jan-22 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: how much space you got? [18-Jan-22 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: id also like to use the route [18-Jan-22 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: 312t / 339m3 [18-Jan-22 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dragonican**: thanks much [18-Jan-22 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Sure thing. @armorlord let me know when your stuff is posted [18-Jan-22 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: (or ping me on discord) [18-Jan-22 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Departed [18-Jan-22 06:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: sorry was afk. next time [19-Jan-22 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anybody have some extra AL sitting around? I ran out and my ship with more won't be here for another ~12h [19-Jan-22 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: why was our CoGC not funded? this kind of thing shouldn't be happening with an active Gov [19-Jan-22 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: completly agree [19-Jan-22 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: we pay taxes [19-Jan-22 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I'm guessing being gov is a lot less fun than people think it will be. [19-Jan-22 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: everyone's like "I'll run" [19-Jan-22 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: and I'm sitting here going "nope, no-siree" [19-Jan-22 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: Trust me its not [19-Jan-22 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I already have a job :D [19-Jan-22 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I think ultimately that's what breaks the game for me (and I won't be renewing when my sub runs out in a month) is that it can feel a bit like a second job [19-Jan-22 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: Anyhoo - what do you need from us to ease your pain KyZekk? [19-Jan-22 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: give me 4 hours and it will be fixed. have a ship on the way from HRT [19-Jan-22 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: and yeah im in the same boat MSorange. except with school. [19-Jan-22 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: plus I think its active now. [19-Jan-22 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: need me to build anything specifically? [19-Jan-22 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: nope. I just bought the required DW and RAT from the market and it will be here in 4 hours [19-Jan-22 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: gotcha - right I'm going to log off and see if I can finish subnautica before my heart gives out [19-Jan-22 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: also if either Kaygran or Talmar want to run for governor feel free I only did it so there was someone with more experience in the game and not gonna run of with the money. [19-Jan-22 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: I can contibute the RAT/DW immediately if needed [19-Jan-22 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: i dont have the time KyZekk just these days i have more time cause im on quarentine thx to the COVID19 [19-Jan-22 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: just curious do you use the governor spreedshet i found it usefull [19-Jan-22 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I've never wanted that job. I threw in the last of the RAT's, to get it going [19-Jan-22 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I make a ton of RAT's and DW here, so if you think you are going to run out of either of those, hit me up [19-Jan-22 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: what spreadsheet Kaygran? [19-Jan-22 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: and I have a ship on the way with the rest of the required DW and RAT [19-Jan-22 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I finished Subnautica! yay! my life is complete! *orders the sequel* [19-Jan-22 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: congrats! [19-Jan-22 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I liked the original the best, but the sequel is also good [19-Jan-22 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: if anyone has a bit of KOM or COF to spare, ads up on the LM [19-Jan-22 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: you're set [19-Jan-22 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: thanks! [19-Jan-22 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: How much will 689 units of SF cost me? [19-Jan-22 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: I got that much to sell [19-Jan-22 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: happy to sell @ 13/u [19-Jan-22 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: K [19-Jan-22 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: I can Afford 600 [19-Jan-22 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: excellent [19-Jan-22 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Ads up [19-Jan-22 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Crap I didn't account for the price Of putting the ad up [19-Jan-22 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: np fill it when y ou can [19-Jan-22 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheSmithAries**: Okay [19-Jan-22 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: that's some thin margins you're running on :D better be able to afford production cost [19-Jan-22 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: O.o [19-Jan-22 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: 13/u is getting rich [20-Jan-22 04:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Coolm3n70** left.* [20-Jan-22 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sixftsam** joined.* [20-Jan-22 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZXVS** left.* [20-Jan-22 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fuel4U** joined.* [20-Jan-22 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anybody have BSE sitting around that they don't need for the next ~24h? [20-Jan-22 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'm willing to pay 100/u and give them back within a day [20-Jan-22 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Altura16**: 3 BSE [20-Jan-22 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: sure. put up a buy ad 3 BSE for 1u. I'll put up a buy for 3 BSE / 300u [20-Jan-22 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: @altura16 I ended up not needing them and deleted my ad. sorry for the confusion [21-Jan-22 01:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Altura16**: no worries - no point deleting my ad now. Might pick up some cheap materials !!! [21-Jan-22 03:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: Anyone who makes och knowes anyone who makes TSH? [21-Jan-22 03:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user076e59b0c1** left.* [21-Jan-22 04:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: dont know what OCH is but i recall a while back bant was making TSH , not sure if he still is tho [21-Jan-22 04:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: it should have been or, typo. [21-Jan-22 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user210f92d6f9** left.* [21-Jan-22 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **stackem**: it'd be kinda neat if someone wanted to move something spicy to HRT for me [21-Jan-22 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: post the ads i'll haul it [21-Jan-22 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arutsuru_Suhur** joined.* [22-Jan-22 05:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: hi any of youhave 100 water to spare i misscalculated and my ship will not arrive enough soon [22-Jan-22 05:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: Thx Tayama :) [22-Jan-22 05:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Maces**: you're welcome @Kaygran [22-Jan-22 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pixelbound** joined.* [22-Jan-22 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RipoffPingu** joined.* [23-Jan-22 12:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Maces**: LF emergency PT [23-Jan-22 02:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I had a little extra for ya [23-Jan-22 04:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Maces**: thanks @Talmar [23-Jan-22 05:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bambulish** joined.* [23-Jan-22 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: looking for some PWO, anyone selling? 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[24-Jan-22 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Excalibur643** left.* [24-Jan-22 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: I filled out his ads for 40 [24-Jan-22 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tron31** left.* [24-Jan-22 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***thesacredbear** left.* [24-Jan-22 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bambino** left.* [25-Jan-22 06:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Willger** joined.* [25-Jan-22 08:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Empire12** left.* [25-Jan-22 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JDavid** joined.* [25-Jan-22 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Poweryak** joined.* [25-Jan-22 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CMDR.GRIMX** left.* [26-Jan-22 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I have an DW ad up for Pop inf [26-Jan-22 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: let me know if you want to take a portion of it [26-Jan-22 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: I have 2 ads for PROM to Avalon on PROM LM, just a heads up if anyone is going that way [26-Jan-22 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: oooo we have engineers now - I feels like only a couple of weeks ago that we got technicians [26-Jan-22 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Oh cool! [26-Jan-22 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Does anybody else here use limestone and want some cheap? [26-Jan-22 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I've got a base digging it up on JS-572c and would be willing to pay in LST for someone to haul it back to Avalon [26-Jan-22 02:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: alternatively, if anyone has a spare ship, some ads are up on the LM [26-Jan-22 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: Spare ship? people have those? I've got 3 and I still can't get everything done! LOL! [26-Jan-22 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I had a spare ship when I was new. I'm counting on a continual trickle of new folks who want some cash [27-Jan-22 02:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ETERNAL_STALIN** left.* [27-Jan-22 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEnvoy**: 4k ICA worth of shipments from Promitor and HRT heading to Avalon [27-Jan-22 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: Keep the LM stocked on JS and there will be buys regularly whenever I can find a shipper :) [27-Jan-22 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I use less limestone than I used to - I did a big shipment a while back and still have 96 leftr [27-Jan-22 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: ha due to innept clicking I just placed an order for 300 AI assisted lab coats at 41.1 each - that would set me up nicely :D [27-Jan-22 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: that moment when you're looking at the orders window and your order doesn't appear and you're like 'oh arse where did that go' [27-Jan-22 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: @Desan - @wordedwheel is stocking the LM there and I'd feel weird edging in on their turf [27-Jan-22 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: but PM me if it's ever empty! also I'll possibly build a warehouse there at some point [28-Jan-22 05:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sixftsam** left.* [28-Jan-22 07:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: anyone selling DW? [28-Jan-22 07:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: need 1000 for upkeep [28-Jan-22 09:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: i have 100 to spare if that heps [28-Jan-22 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: i will have 500 you ask for in the LM in a couple of days [28-Jan-22 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Idontgrind** joined.* [28-Jan-22 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: alright [28-Jan-22 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Idontgrind** left.* [28-Jan-22 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Idontgrind** joined.* [28-Jan-22 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: oh, I need it for drinking :( [28-Jan-22 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEnvoy**: 3k ICA in shipments from HRT > Avalon. [28-Jan-22 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MaritimeTech2** joined.* [28-Jan-22 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Is shipping really that expensive now? I just posted an ad Avalon -> HRT at 4$/t [29-Jan-22 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wontyd** joined.* [29-Jan-22 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GuinnesstheGamer** joined.* [29-Jan-22 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arutsuru_Suhur** left.* [30-Jan-22 04:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Korenss** joined.* [30-Jan-22 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: Orange logistics at your service! [30-Jan-22 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: ha I appear to be bringing stuff back for you too :D [30-Jan-22 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wolfblood** joined.* [30-Jan-22 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***W0RLD3ATER** joined.* [30-Jan-22 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cesartrolly** joined.* [30-Jan-22 10:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Flareside** left.* [31-Jan-22 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bambulish** left.* [31-Jan-22 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'm doing a prom->avalon run departing in ~3h if anyone has cargo [31-Jan-22 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: how much space do you have? [31-Jan-22 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: i'm also looking to go to avalon from HRT [31-Jan-22 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: about 200/200 remaining [31-Jan-22 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ephemarel** joined.* [31-Jan-22 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lowstrife** joined.* [31-Jan-22 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: departing soon. last call for cargo prom -> avalon [31-Jan-22 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Steff1** joined.* [31-Jan-22 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RipoffPingu** left.* [01-Feb-22 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: S.O.S. 50 RAT/DW needed, LM ads online 😉 [01-Feb-22 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **IshNarGarn**: have a nice feast :-) [01-Feb-22 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JohnHay** joined.* [02-Feb-22 12:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: Thnx to @IshNarGarn 👍 [02-Feb-22 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JDavid** left.* [02-Feb-22 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8644b246e9** left.* [02-Feb-22 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: Need DW urgently [02-Feb-22 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: how much? [02-Feb-22 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I can probably spare 100 [02-Feb-22 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: I just got 300, thanks [02-Feb-22 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I put small orders of fuel and food up for sale, for those of you that are in need [02-Feb-22 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***v1o** left.* [02-Feb-22 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: if anyone has BDE or MCG on hand, I have buy ads up [02-Feb-22 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: if anyone has a ship at HRT. I have a shipping add up for CoGC upkeep mats [03-Feb-22 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ahzeek** joined.* [04-Feb-22 07:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Emperor_Biron** joined.* [04-Feb-22 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: SEN [04-Feb-22 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: Anyone need shipping for Prom->HRT, Prom->Avalon, or Avalon->Prom? Post it now for "P" rating. gf is headed here mostly empty—she'll do it for cheap [04-Feb-22 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: can I buy a full ship from prom -> HRT? [04-Feb-22 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: ads posted on prom LM [04-Feb-22 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CumShooter1337** joined.* [04-Feb-22 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***WispOfDark** joined.* [05-Feb-22 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ahzeek** left.* [05-Feb-22 07:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***kolo1787** joined.* [06-Feb-22 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wontyd** left.* [06-Feb-22 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GuinnesstheGamer** left.* [06-Feb-22 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: need emergency DW LM ads up thanks for the help [06-Feb-22 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: tyvm [06-Feb-22 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: For those prices? Very happy to oblige! [06-Feb-22 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: would you be willing to sell water, or anymore drinking water? [06-Feb-22 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: be happy to pay over cx price [06-Feb-22 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: You drained me of DW, unfortunately, and I turn extra H2O into DW as soon as I have it [06-Feb-22 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: I paid over cx price so it'll be worthwhile to buy DW right then and there and ship it back to your stock [06-Feb-22 09:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: be happy to pay over cx if you got anymore stock later on [06-Feb-22 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: You're in luck! (And so am I, cos I'm gonna need more *very* soon now as well, lol.) I've got a ship en route to HRT as we speak, ETA 5 hrs. I can get some back here lickity split. How much DW would you like? And how long can you wait if I buy H2O and produce it myself? [06-Feb-22 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: at the moment there's no reasonably priced water on the exchange, I bought everything yesterday to fill a contract that I accidentally undersold [06-Feb-22 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: Oh, that's right, I forgot I did see that. DW it is then. How much you looking for? [06-Feb-22 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: if you wanna ship me ~600 from the exchange @58/u I'll but it from you @61, pay for your fuel to get here [06-Feb-22 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: Yeah, that should more than cover it [06-Feb-22 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: Wow, that's only what... 6 tons, too? Is that math right? That's a lot of empty space, lol [06-Feb-22 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: yeah drinking water either breaks the laws of physics of that 1 unit of DW is far less by vol/weight than raw water [06-Feb-22 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: would you like the ad up now, delivery by 3 days? [06-Feb-22 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: I'll need that actually, yeah. I'm not liquid enough right now to cover it. [06-Feb-22 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: ad up [06-Feb-22 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: And buy order placed [06-Feb-22 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: Might wait a bit to see if I can get a better bid than 58 first, but it should be en route to Avalon in < 24 hrs [06-Feb-22 09:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: given that there's very small amounts of water, that may be unlikely [06-Feb-22 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: I'll keep mine at top bid, so unless they remove and up their sell price out of spite, I won't lose anything by waiting [06-Feb-22 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: kk thanks for the help it is much appreciated as I sort out the mess I put myself into [06-Feb-22 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: Haha, no prob. Nice thing about a free market game is I'm helping myself at the same time as I help you. [06-Feb-22 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: You set up on Boucher, right? I seem to remember seeing that in the chat. Shipping bottleneck? [06-Feb-22 09:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: indeed. I can only dedicate one ship to the route and it's very limited in capacity. [06-Feb-22 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: lately there's been a massive shipping bottleneck I can't get anything out of there even at 25 per t/m^3 [06-Feb-22 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: Oof [06-Feb-22 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: I found Boucher via the FIO tools a few days ago, and was heavily considering it, but luckily I was warned about the bottleneck issues [06-Feb-22 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: yes having that base essentially required having 3 ships. I got 25 farms on promitor so I had to move water production elsewhere [06-Feb-22 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: i think its good if you still have excess shipping capacity , but as you expand it will be a bit hard [06-Feb-22 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: So thank you for being the very instructive example for the rest of us for what not to do XD [06-Feb-22 09:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: water rn just hit 50/u on the CX [06-Feb-22 09:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: ^that would be buying everything :D [06-Feb-22 09:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: ^^^ that worked well till this week when water supplies dried up entirely [06-Feb-22 09:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: @Assanova right, it seems like a no-brainer for the long-term... unfortunately, with FTL ships only just being produced, that's a very long term indeed [06-Feb-22 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: a pure DW base on boucher though is s till good, you would only need to visit it once every week [06-Feb-22 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: 5 days* [06-Feb-22 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: nearly 50k profit per day [06-Feb-22 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: Oh, good point. Especially if DW prices continue the way they are. [06-Feb-22 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: @armorlord btw, I've send you a DM to talk about those shipping orders! [07-Feb-22 12:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: Anyone got DW for sale? managed to run out. [07-Feb-22 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: need 100-200 [07-Feb-22 12:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: Posted shipping order LMA VH-331a/27659, paying 30 ICA per ton for prompt delivery! [07-Feb-22 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: it's only 32 tons btw, so you'll also have room for nearly a full bay of cargo with it! [07-Feb-22 12:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nirces** joined.* [07-Feb-22 12:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nirces**: Hello, I decided to join you here on Avalon [07-Feb-22 12:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: Fabulous! Welcome. Thanks for shipping contract, Nirces! [07-Feb-22 12:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: Also, buying water on the Avalon LM as well! 60 ICA / ea, but please only take it if you can provide it within the hour! [07-Feb-22 12:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: LMA VH-331g/4150 [07-Feb-22 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: Filled! Ty RegalGoblin-Destroyer! [07-Feb-22 05:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Korenss** left.* [07-Feb-22 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: does anyone need AEF before I send it off to the CX? [07-Feb-22 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Neralath** joined.* [07-Feb-22 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: @lordcirith [07-Feb-22 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: sorry I took your contract thinking I had loads of BDE around - turns out I only had 1 [07-Feb-22 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: making one more now but it'll be 6 hours which is past my bedtime - I might leave my PC on and sneak down before I turn the light off [07-Feb-22 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I really wish contracts could auto fulfil :( [07-Feb-22 12:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: yeah, autofilling contracts would be super handy [07-Feb-22 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: @MsOrange that's fine, thanks [07-Feb-22 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lukrani** joined.* [07-Feb-22 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cesartrolly** left.* [07-Feb-22 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: 11m left [07-Feb-22 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lukrani** left.* [07-Feb-22 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: aaand done - good night [07-Feb-22 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***XXST** joined.* [07-Feb-22 09:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tr1p0re** joined.* [07-Feb-22 09:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***W0RLD3ATER** left.* [08-Feb-22 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WildCat1368** joined.* [09-Feb-22 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: A pleasure doing business with you, @MsOrange, and thanks for the RSE. I'll plant an orange tree in my ORC and you can have the first orange (as soon as it appears on the CX ;-). [09-Feb-22 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: glad to be of help :) [09-Feb-22 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Goral92** joined.* [10-Feb-22 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hardlegs** joined.* [10-Feb-22 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: Posted ~13k ICA worth of RAT ingredients on Avalon LM, deliverable asap [10-Feb-22 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Garren** joined.* [10-Feb-22 10:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: grabbed them, thanks! don't have the cash on hand, but will shortly [10-Feb-22 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anybody have cargo they want shipped to HRT? [10-Feb-22 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I've got ~300/300 available, leaving in an hour or so [10-Feb-22 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vincent-1** joined.* [10-Feb-22 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: departed [10-Feb-22 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Airey** joined.* [10-Feb-22 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***noussophia** joined.* [11-Feb-22 05:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aranymedve** joined.* [11-Feb-22 05:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: anyone got some RAT to sell here? [11-Feb-22 05:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: yop [11-Feb-22 05:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: 200 is ok?? [11-Feb-22 05:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: yes I take as much as I can -D [11-Feb-22 05:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: 50ICA per unit is good for you? [11-Feb-22 05:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: yeah, its the price one has to pay at the moment ^^ [11-Feb-22 05:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Desan**: thank you! [11-Feb-22 05:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: U re wellcome [11-Feb-22 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: Someone spare me a bit of DW? I'm making some, but I mistimed it, and now the DW production is slowed for lack of DW. 55 ICA / ea, LMA VH-331g/4257 [11-Feb-22 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: i got ya [11-Feb-22 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: Thanks! [11-Feb-22 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: np man [11-Feb-22 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anyone have cargo they need prom->avalon? I've got half a ship free [11-Feb-22 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***armorlord** deleted this message.* [11-Feb-22 02:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: is the space still available? [11-Feb-22 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: already left, sorry [12-Feb-22 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: H2O available on the Avalon LM! Just selling a few hundred excess, variable prices as low as 27.2 ICA /ea. [12-Feb-22 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CumShooter1337** left.* [12-Feb-22 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***WispOfDark** left.* [12-Feb-22 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7b7a50bfdb** left.* [12-Feb-22 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cat_Kotze** joined.* [12-Feb-22 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: can anyone fill my DW ad on the LM? [12-Feb-22 06:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: i can help you a bit [12-Feb-22 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Thanks! [12-Feb-22 11:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bork9128** joined.* [13-Feb-22 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: yeah, I'm not paying that price for water. [13-Feb-22 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Siddharte** joined.* [13-Feb-22 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anyone have / making GL locally? [13-Feb-22 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: also NL [13-Feb-22 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I make GL [13-Feb-22 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: how much do you want per unit? I'm looking for 42 total [13-Feb-22 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: GL.IC1 [13-Feb-22 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: is 200/u okay? [13-Feb-22 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ah, looks like there's an ask for 250 at the CX. I'll post at that price [13-Feb-22 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I can also trade LST if you need that. I have a bunch [13-Feb-22 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: i'm interested in LST. will take 100 units [13-Feb-22 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: LST.IC1 [13-Feb-22 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: great post the ad [13-Feb-22 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I can do 120/u [13-Feb-22 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: perfect [13-Feb-22 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: posted [13-Feb-22 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: will buy N if you got some of that as well [13-Feb-22 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: don't have any N, sorry [13-Feb-22 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: np [13-Feb-22 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: feel free to ping me when you need more LST though [13-Feb-22 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: will do. pain to ship even from HRT [13-Feb-22 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: yeah, I have a base on an LST-rich world (js-572c) and I post contracts a shipload at a time [13-Feb-22 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: *shipping contracts, from there to avalon [14-Feb-22 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dylan935** joined.* [14-Feb-22 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ad posted for 10xNL @ 1500/u on the LM [14-Feb-22 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: if anyone is making it here [14-Feb-22 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I do but I only have 5 in stock [14-Feb-22 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I'll repost as two ads [14-Feb-22 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Posted! [15-Feb-22 07:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Niraku** left.* [15-Feb-22 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anybody have 2 BDE? [15-Feb-22 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere53d4a4133** left.* [15-Feb-22 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userede9312904** left.* [15-Feb-22 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bork9128** left.* [16-Feb-22 04:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gordo4444** joined.* [16-Feb-22 09:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: there is an add on Hortus station LM from there to Avalon if somebody could the tryp i would appreciate that [16-Feb-22 09:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: 2500 for 200m3 [16-Feb-22 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: did you get your BDE Jeff? [16-Feb-22 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I did, thanks! [16-Feb-22 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I also got NL, but I'd happily buy more if you have it [16-Feb-22 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera16ce90fad** left.* [17-Feb-22 09:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user83432df3c9** left.* [17-Feb-22 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userecef4fc9ff** left.* [17-Feb-22 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***elongated_goose** joined.* [18-Feb-22 05:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***WildCat1368** left.* [18-Feb-22 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf2de6ec14a** left.* [18-Feb-22 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vincent-1** left.* [18-Feb-22 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: nah I'm using it as fast as I'm producing it at the mo Jeff [18-Feb-22 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userddecaa9c82** left.* [19-Feb-22 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DMi** joined.* [19-Feb-22 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DMi** left.* [19-Feb-22 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DMi** joined.* [19-Feb-22 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DMi** left.* [19-Feb-22 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aranymedve** left.* [19-Feb-22 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Raith017** joined.* [19-Feb-22 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: @thejeffcooper you got anymore LST for sale? [20-Feb-22 02:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Laplace-** joined.* [20-Feb-22 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Supreme_Admiral** joined.* [20-Feb-22 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***elongated_goose** left.* [20-Feb-22 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cat_Kotze** left.* [20-Feb-22 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: yeah sure. how much do you need? [20-Feb-22 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: @armorlord PM me, or just put an ad on the LM [20-Feb-22 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I can probably spare up to 300 of what I have on hand [20-Feb-22 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***-._..-_.-.._.-..** joined.* [20-Feb-22 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PringRing** joined.* [21-Feb-22 06:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: i'll take 100 LST [21-Feb-22 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Ad posted at 180/u [21-Feb-22 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***noussophia** left.* [21-Feb-22 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AceOfSpades6955** joined.* [21-Feb-22 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: looking for OFF for pop upkeep let me know if you would like to contribute [21-Feb-22 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: will pay for it of course [22-Feb-22 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ditonis** joined.* [22-Feb-22 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I'll start bringing some in for you. Might have a small amount on Prom [22-Feb-22 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I have 50 at the mo [22-Feb-22 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I can make more [22-Feb-22 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: alrighty thanks! [22-Feb-22 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I need 420 altogether [22-Feb-22 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: what's your timescale? [22-Feb-22 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I have put 250 extra on the boil but I have to wait for my EPO to brew so i'll be 1.7 days til they're done [22-Feb-22 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***alphaorion** joined.* [22-Feb-22 06:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: just whenever you have them [23-Feb-22 05:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nirces**: Can anyone spare 30PG on the local market please? [23-Feb-22 07:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nirces**: ty [23-Feb-22 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jik** left.* [23-Feb-22 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***-._..-_.-.._.-..** left.* [24-Feb-22 04:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Darth_Goetia** left.* [24-Feb-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Three_eyed_raven** left.* [24-Feb-22 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user109ebe1ea9** left.* [24-Feb-22 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: Just put up some shipping ads on Prom. Prom to Avalon. Decent pay [24-Feb-22 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: Oh my did someone just buy all the drinking water and put it at 75 each [24-Feb-22 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: that feels a bit cunty [24-Feb-22 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Siddharte**: a capitalist monopoly [24-Feb-22 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: curse those damn SPACE CAPITALISTS! [24-Feb-22 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: Oh god I've just fallen foul of having no paid account. I wanted to buy 1 of something just to tide me over - it was clearly over priced but 1 would have been enough to add to the 2 I have and produce a thing. [24-Feb-22 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: but no it was outside of the price band so I couldn't [24-Feb-22 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: it was TOO EXPENSIVE FOR NON-SUB SCUM TO BUY!! [24-Feb-22 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: @kyzekk - if you want to put up an add for OFF - I can't do LM stuff now [24-Feb-22 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: alright [25-Feb-22 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dylan935** left.* [25-Feb-22 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: did you put it up and someone nabbed it? [25-Feb-22 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I have 400 [25-Feb-22 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: is 80 each an ok price? feel free to haggle - this for our planet after all [25-Feb-22 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6285e4f6d1** left.* [25-Feb-22 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: @MsOrange, if you still need food, let me know. I'm going to post a few things up on the LM now [25-Feb-22 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I'm shorter on water due to refusing to pay for the scalper :D [25-Feb-22 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I should start making it on Prom (I mine water already) but if I diversify any more I'll be Amazon [25-Feb-22 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: ads are up on the LM, if you need some rats/dw. [25-Feb-22 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: and you should have seen my Montem base... had 10 different production lines running... what a mess! I've recently cleaned it up some, and am down to 8, I think! [25-Feb-22 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: Also, I have more shipping ads Prom to Avalon. Ads are on Prom [25-Feb-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I tend to go Avalon <-> HRT with one ship and HRT <-> Prom with the other, less often - that's the one I send out for supplies occasionally [25-Feb-22 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I have my glass ship running all over the system, burning hard, just to keep all my bases supplied [25-Feb-22 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: yeah, I'm thinking I'll be in the market for an STL ship before too long [25-Feb-22 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: branching into a new industry with the next base, and it's going to be in approximately the middle of nowhere [25-Feb-22 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: how much does a glass ship cost all in? I notice we have a shipyard in the system [25-Feb-22 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I thought I saw someone say ~500k once, but I have no idea how accurate that is [25-Feb-22 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I haven't looked seriously into it [25-Feb-22 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: well, most of the focus is now into FTL ships, which are in the 4-5M range. But a glass ship, with 500 cargo space is around 500K. You can now get STL ships with large cargo as well [25-Feb-22 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: Rek produces STL ships at 550k. Can be paid in ICA NCC or combo with goods [25-Feb-22 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: is Rek a person or a corp? [25-Feb-22 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: Rek is in my corp [25-Feb-22 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: he's one of the main ship building coordinators [25-Feb-22 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: Building a ship is an entire corp project. You need many people making things to make it happen [25-Feb-22 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: 250 m^3/t leaving avalon -> HRT in 16 hours [26-Feb-22 01:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user692ae7cb6d** left.* [26-Feb-22 02:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: sorry MsOrange been busy with school and sleep and I havent posted it yet. [26-Feb-22 03:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **HumAnt**: what is the rough estimate of the simplest/cheapest ship price? [26-Feb-22 03:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **HumAnt**: a one for intra-system travel only? [26-Feb-22 03:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I think 500k-600k, based on the above discussion [26-Feb-22 03:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nirces**: Pay Deslan 483k and brought my own glass grove for 130k [26-Feb-22 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Anybody have one TCS they can spare? PM me with your price if so [26-Feb-22 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: no worries KyZekk - real life is definitely more important - this stuff isn't going anywhere :) was just worried I'd missed it [26-Feb-22 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cds81** joined.* [27-Feb-22 12:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: if you want to chuck it into the popinf and then sell 1 water with the total you want me to pay you back for that may work better [27-Feb-22 01:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: hey KyZekk, I have 200 OFF for you. Post an ad when you get a chance [27-Feb-22 07:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I'm out of Sub at the moment so can't do LM [27-Feb-22 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: (ie I can't put up an ad - I can still respond to one) [27-Feb-22 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yanceyyy** joined.* [27-Feb-22 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Raith017** left.* [27-Feb-22 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I still have a few shipping ads up on the Prom LM: Prom->Avalon, if someone wants to make a couple quick ICA's [27-Feb-22 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: that's because it is flakey [27-Feb-22 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: ah good to know it's not my internet being fuckity [27-Feb-22 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KyZekk** deleted this message.* [27-Feb-22 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Qazwxe** left.* [28-Feb-22 12:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: is the game being flaky for you guys - it keeps taking several attempts to get in and has been all day [28-Feb-22 07:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zwint** joined.* [28-Feb-22 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user960e3d9a25** left.* [28-Feb-22 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Syandriel** joined.* [01-Mar-22 06:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Spice** joined.* [01-Mar-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: Forget to check my consumables, and ran out of OVE. Ad up for 10 on the LM, if someone can help me out [01-Mar-22 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: thank you! [01-Mar-22 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lordcirth**: No problem. I have hundreds more if you want them... [01-Mar-22 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: yeah, I have a lot of them, too, but forgot to ship them in. Will be sorted out in about 10 or 12 hours [01-Mar-22 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AceOfSpades6955** left.* [02-Mar-22 12:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***pucha** joined.* [02-Mar-22 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Siddharte**: I can not get new PIO to work in my Food Processors. How can this issue be adressed? [02-Mar-22 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hackbert** joined.* [02-Mar-22 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Siddharte**: Issue resolved itself [02-Mar-22 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user82ba46bf34** left.* [02-Mar-22 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Maces**: LF emergency KOM, ad on the LM [02-Mar-22 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: @Maces fullfilled [02-Mar-22 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maces** deleted this message.* [02-Mar-22 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Maces**: @willger thanks [02-Mar-22 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***alphaorion** left.* [02-Mar-22 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JeanKristein** joined.* [04-Mar-22 04:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: about to run out of HMS. Ad up for 5, if anyone can help me out [04-Mar-22 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: has anyone some OVE to spare my ships are far far away [04-Mar-22 09:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: if you can put an ad for over cx I can help [04-Mar-22 09:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: how much you can spare i wil put it at 65 per unit is good price for u?? [04-Mar-22 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: at 65 I can sell you 50 [04-Mar-22 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: ok thx man LM on the way [04-Mar-22 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: LM up [04-Mar-22 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: much appreciated thx sir [04-Mar-22 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: np [04-Mar-22 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf3798c3f79** left.* [04-Mar-22 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mak84271** joined.* [04-Mar-22 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DoubleOhs** joined.* [04-Mar-22 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: no one has any HMS for me? :( [04-Mar-22 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: if you would put an ad for HMS over cx price i'll fetch some for you [04-Mar-22 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I'm not paying 700 for something that's worth less than 500. I'll wait until I can ship some from another planet if no one can fill my order my reasonable price. [04-Mar-22 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: *at my [04-Mar-22 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: np [04-Mar-22 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: bums i have just breached a contract by coming home pissed a few minutes late and prioritising a sandwich over logging in [04-Mar-22 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: in my defence it was a pretty tasty sandwich [04-Mar-22 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: LOL [04-Mar-22 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: whoever the contract was with should have extended it for you [04-Mar-22 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DragonFire7900** joined.* [05-Mar-22 03:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wizzy** joined.* [05-Mar-22 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: thanks Stackem - I'll try not to drunk fly in the future [05-Mar-22 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CamRoger** joined.* [05-Mar-22 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***miroslav47** joined.* [05-Mar-22 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rebelricco** joined.* [06-Mar-22 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Topoyiyo** joined.* [06-Mar-22 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nanobreath** joined.* [06-Mar-22 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Harturo** joined.* [06-Mar-22 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cds81** left.* [07-Mar-22 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Atom194** left.* [07-Mar-22 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nirces**: Ad up at HRT for some Shipping if anyone has some room [07-Mar-22 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Maces**: Guys, I am looking for 3 BSE [07-Mar-22 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hectorino** joined.* [07-Mar-22 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rami2612** joined.* [07-Mar-22 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I've got BSe [07-Mar-22 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: *BSE [07-Mar-22 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: grabed your ad. have plenty more where that came from. also BBH [07-Mar-22 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yanceyyy** left.* [07-Mar-22 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Maces**: thanks @thejeffcooper [07-Mar-22 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: if you still have LST i'll take like 100 [07-Mar-22 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: LST.IC1 [07-Mar-22 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Sure, I'll post a sell. About to log off for the night though so I might not fill it until morning [07-Mar-22 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: @armorlord ad posted [08-Mar-22 06:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: if any one has some H to spare LM add 60/u [08-Mar-22 07:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zwint** left.* [08-Mar-22 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ephemarel**: Anyone looking for shipping from HRT (or Prom) to Antares Station? I've got 150 tons of space left. [08-Mar-22 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userffc0742844** left.* [08-Mar-22 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: @ephemarel I'm guessing you already left? [08-Mar-22 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: If not I have cargo on Avalon that I'd love shipped out that way [08-Mar-22 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Ad posted. No worries if you already left [08-Mar-22 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Hectorino**: How long do orders take to arrive? [08-Mar-22 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: depends on who picks up your contract. Some people are dicks, and will wait until the last minute to finish it. Some will have it done in hours. So, it's hit or miss. [08-Mar-22 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: What @Talmar said is true got local market contracts. For contracts on the commodity exchange (cx), they fill immediately but you have to have an inventory to collect them into [08-Mar-22 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: That's usually a ship at the station or a warehouse there [09-Mar-22 04:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: empty ship avalon -> HRT leaving in 8 hours [09-Mar-22 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***gatoratlaw** joined.* [09-Mar-22 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ulinko05** left.* [09-Mar-22 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SomeGuy1345** left.* [09-Mar-22 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MontyvsPatton** joined.* [09-Mar-22 10:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rain9441** joined.* [10-Mar-22 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mossy** joined.* [10-Mar-22 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JeanKristein** left.* [11-Mar-22 05:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Saprix** joined.* [11-Mar-22 07:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nirces**: I've screwed up and about to run out of DW, Just put a buy order up for 100 @ 70 [11-Mar-22 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Leprica_Starworks** joined.* [11-Mar-22 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: i got u bro [11-Mar-22 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nirces**: I've screwed up and about to run out of DW, Just put a buy order up for 100 @ 70 [11-Mar-22 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Leprica_Starworks** joined.* [11-Mar-22 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: i got u bro [11-Mar-22 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nirces**: I've screwed up and about to run out of DW, Just put a buy order up for 100 @ 70 [11-Mar-22 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Leprica_Starworks** joined.* [11-Mar-22 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: i got u bro [11-Mar-22 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I usually have RAT and DW ads up on the LM, but shipped most of it off. Tomorrow I'll post some for those in need [11-Mar-22 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I usually have RAT and DW ads up on the LM, but shipped most of it off. Tomorrow I'll post some for those in need [12-Mar-22 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pmanfreerunner** joined.* [12-Mar-22 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user53bfdbfc7e** left.* [12-Mar-22 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KalPatine** joined.* [12-Mar-22 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8a04996ae2** left.* [12-Mar-22 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Visinvictus** joined.* [12-Mar-22 03:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: put some RAT and DW ads up, in convenient 25 unit lots, for our smaller settlers. [12-Mar-22 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: and I just greedily grabbed all of them. sorry :( [12-Mar-22 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Melakhaskhan** joined.* [12-Mar-22 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DragonFire7900** left.* [12-Mar-22 09:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wizzy** left.* [13-Mar-22 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: you;re a monster jeffcooper you know that right? :D [13-Mar-22 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mak84271** left.* [13-Mar-22 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***stanley_yelnatsIII** left.* [13-Mar-22 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***miroslav47** left.* [14-Mar-22 03:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Atrophus** joined.* [14-Mar-22 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Guilty as charged [14-Mar-22 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: :D :D [14-Mar-22 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere04a1e057f** left.* [14-Mar-22 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AlphaWolf291** joined.* [14-Mar-22 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: It's ok, I'm making more [14-Mar-22 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I'm mostly just here for insults not food ;) [14-Mar-22 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I can feed you insults :D [15-Mar-22 12:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dreistein** left.* [15-Mar-22 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nirces**: 2 hours left on the shipping HRT->ANT [15-Mar-22 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user13550081db** left.* [15-Mar-22 01:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KalPatine** left.* [15-Mar-22 02:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user967c3279f7** left.* [16-Mar-22 06:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0acfff9bb2** left.* [17-Mar-22 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NealMcBeal12** joined.* [17-Mar-22 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user65a1dcb71b** left.* [17-Mar-22 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: can't believe no one played off of my Feed you Insults line... 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I've been on avalon for virtually all of my company's existance and would love to care for the planet [20-Mar-22 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: under me the COGC will always be properly maintained. population will remain at positive unemployment with an emphasis on raising engineer levels to meet the current open jobs [20-Mar-22 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: production and local market fees will be set to support the corresponding population tier only [20-Mar-22 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: with an end goal of having LM fees set at 0 [20-Mar-22 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***armorlord** deleted this message.* [20-Mar-22 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: avalon is a food processing powerhouse and it shall not falter [20-Mar-22 05:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2a1ec6ec6b** left.* [20-Mar-22 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: COGC is back up had to rush stuff from HRT [20-Mar-22 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: I also rushed materials, will contibute to the next cycle [20-Mar-22 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yeah thats my bad have been busy the last couple of days and didnt have a chance to look. [20-Mar-22 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: also you have my vote [21-Mar-22 04:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: much appreciated sir [21-Mar-22 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: @thejeffcooper - just been reading about your woes [21-Mar-22 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: it's not the end of the world. just a little frustrating [21-Mar-22 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Simp** joined.* [21-Mar-22 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: i did do a bit of a lol about the company code being 'YAR' [21-Mar-22 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: yeah, same [21-Mar-22 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***soraluzeko** joined.* [21-Mar-22 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***armorlord** deleted this message.* [21-Mar-22 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: thanks to all who donated for the next COGC cycle. I will donate the rest of the materials as a campaign promise. If I will be elected you will be compensated for your contributions [22-Mar-22 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheBombBunny** left.* [22-Mar-22 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anyone have EXO for sale? [22-Mar-22 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: how many? [22-Mar-22 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I have 89 in my personal stock [22-Mar-22 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I can make more if you need 50? [22-Mar-22 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Sure, any amount is good. I managed to run totally out [22-Mar-22 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: What price? [22-Mar-22 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: put a reasonable ad up - I am a reasonable orange :) [22-Mar-22 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: lordcirith already has 20 up [22-Mar-22 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: I grabbed the ad that was up. I'll do the math when I get home to see how much I need [22-Mar-22 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I see your mate has joined chat on promitor :D [22-Mar-22 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: Yeah I saw that. Avast [22-Mar-22 02:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lawrence4868** joined.* [22-Mar-22 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I mean they sound quite fun - i did enjoy the use of 'fiddlesticks' [22-Mar-22 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3e9d8abca3** left.* [23-Mar-22 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CAF** joined.* [23-Mar-22 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tminer2009** joined.* [23-Mar-22 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kc755** joined.* [24-Mar-22 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Captain_Spaceship** left.* [25-Mar-22 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ospar** joined.* [25-Mar-22 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0ee2e1bdfc** left.* [25-Mar-22 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sexy** joined.* [25-Mar-22 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bwlf87** joined.* [25-Mar-22 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Osalinho** joined.* [25-Mar-22 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: Hello everyone. as newly elected governor I have set population taxes to be more reflective of the operating costs related to POPI that will be required to support them. First priority will be to ensure steady unemployment levels of pioneers and settlers. Second will be to ensure technician levels do not fall further. third priority is to work toward supplying engineer requirements to meet the current open jobs. Initially this will only be possible via government program [26-Mar-22 01:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***deaththrower** joined.* [26-Mar-22 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***0ludo0** joined.* [27-Mar-22 01:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: I heard there will be free cheese [27-Mar-22 05:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: Only if you qualify [27-Mar-22 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: let us know what you need from us armorlord [27-Mar-22 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: apart from an extra 'u' [27-Mar-22 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: *titters in British* [27-Mar-22 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: at this point i'm waiting for the tax revenue (does it come weekly?) to get a snapshot of the financial situation. I would like to start supplying pio/settler POPI this week and from there work asap to get technicians on the planet. hopefully this will make avalon more attractive for settlement long term [27-Mar-22 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ospar** left.* [27-Mar-22 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: oki thx armorlord for the job [27-Mar-22 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RoboRex6** joined.* [28-Mar-22 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nirces**: anyone got some OVE, Ad up on LM [29-Mar-22 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NoChadLee** joined.* [29-Mar-22 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Simp** left.* [29-Mar-22 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: where did that damn unload button come from?! it's MAGICAL [29-Mar-22 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: update today [29-Mar-22 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: quality of life increase for me 104% - not for my slaves, ahem, I mean workers though [29-Mar-22 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: there is also unload on arrival if you are pro [29-Mar-22 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Elcashorro** joined.* [29-Mar-22 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: that's *almost* tempting [29-Mar-22 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: Question for the avalon denizens: would a number of you be interested a planetary auction table? I'd be happy to make and update a bids table if there is enough demand and keep the credits circulating in a tighter loop. The alternative is directly buying POPI goods on the exchange, which I have been doing this week to get POPI running asap. A side note, have been keeping balance sheet for taxes; will send details after the population report tomorrow. [30-Mar-22 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***terrrrrible** joined.* [30-Mar-22 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***terrrrrible** left.* [30-Mar-22 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***terrrrrible** joined.* [30-Mar-22 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I think I make some things which can be useful so I'm happy to be involved. my main issue is lack of Pro account at the moment which can make some payment stuff awkward [30-Mar-22 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I think I make some things which can be useful so I'm happy to be involved. my main issue is lack of Pro account at the moment which can make some payment stuff awkward [30-Mar-22 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***soraluzeko** left.* [30-Mar-22 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wolfblood** left.* [30-Mar-22 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I haven't seen an unload upon arrival button. Where is it? [30-Mar-22 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I don't think they've implemented that yet [30-Mar-22 11:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaygran**: is at the cargo screen of a ship on the top right corner [31-Mar-22 04:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: it's at the fly plan window, a rather small checkbox like the recurring order one [31-Mar-22 05:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: thanks AL. I mean, could they make it any harder to find? I probably would have never seen it if you didn't tell me. [31-Mar-22 05:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: and I have 200 OFF on planet, if you need it. [31-Mar-22 06:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: yeah ill buy OFF [31-Mar-22 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CAF** left.* [31-Mar-22 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aldarion** joined.* [31-Mar-22 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tminer2009** left.* [31-Mar-22 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jomama21** joined.* [31-Mar-22 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere37d17dc29** left.* [01-Apr-22 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ririviboh** joined.* [02-Apr-22 02:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ninymuggins** joined.* [02-Apr-22 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8e291db98d** left.* [02-Apr-22 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sexy** left.* [02-Apr-22 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bwlf87** left.* [02-Apr-22 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: OFF supplies are for sale on the LM. Please leave them for armorlord [02-Apr-22 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: tyvm, going directly to the INF and SST [02-Apr-22 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: cool. Making more now [02-Apr-22 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: could use some SUN as well. and need to find another HAB somewhere to get the wildlife park online [02-Apr-22 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: give me a day to look around [03-Apr-22 01:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user71cd34e3dd** left.* [03-Apr-22 03:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***gateaux** joined.* [03-Apr-22 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: got 20 sun - put up a cheapish buy order and I'll fulfil [03-Apr-22 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I've put 60 more on to bake should be available tomorrow (stuck behind some magnesium) [03-Apr-22 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Antosak** left.* [03-Apr-22 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere4acd63b11** left.* [03-Apr-22 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aldarion** left.* [04-Apr-22 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Airey** left.* [04-Apr-22 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JohnHay** left.* [04-Apr-22 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NTG** joined.* [04-Apr-22 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: right I have up to 60 more if you need them @armorlord [04-Apr-22 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: ad up [04-Apr-22 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***armorlord** deleted this message.* [04-Apr-22 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RoboRex6** left.* [05-Apr-22 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kolo1787** left.* [06-Apr-22 06:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Freakinbat88** joined.* [06-Apr-22 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: oops I either missed it by having a day off or someone else grabbed it [06-Apr-22 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dapuppeteer** joined.* [06-Apr-22 02:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dapuppeteer** left.* [06-Apr-22 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dapuppeteer** joined.* [06-Apr-22 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user524bb8dbe1** left.* [06-Apr-22 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: you missed [06-Apr-22 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: put the ad up [06-Apr-22 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***armorlord** deleted this message.* [06-Apr-22 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: appy to see pios sets and techs numbers go up thanks to the POPI program. hopefully onces I can find a HAB to buy and the wildlife park will go online population numbers will stablilize. at the moment the coffers are hemorrhaging money restocking all the POPI and festivities III is half the budget. will see how the numbers play out next week [06-Apr-22 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: got a HAB coming for you. Should be here by this weekend [06-Apr-22 08:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Supwarl** joined.* [07-Apr-22 04:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Nje_qEWrt_DcUNNrQIlAP1VWIGjayRXA1y0HZsguomM/edit?usp=sharing {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Nje_qEWrt_DcUNNrQIlAP1VWIGjayRXA1y0HZsguomM/edit?usp=sharing avalon P&L Sheet1 Income,date,expenses,date,net starting reserves,3/25/22,1000000,engineer immigration,3/25/22,80000,425139 taxes,3/27/22,11750,220 DW -> SST,3/27/22,11000 remainind reserves,3/29/2022,126460,80 SUN -> SST,3/27/22,20800 taxes,4/3/22,116050,60 OFF -> INF,3/27/22,23067 16 STR -> INF,3/27/22,1... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/pn-ELH7D4zav57ogOUOTzG_uIxJneX4xh6EJhp0yjLw/https/lh6.googleusercontent.com/D31jZMPerYQh10tsV-HLGEYUnb2G4lfo4K0irYowHXC9G5BqYjzc_xGF1gSBKjCicn2DnggcLEla_w%3Dw1200-h630-p [07-Apr-22 04:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: here's a very quick spreadsheet for the current expenses for anyone interested [08-Apr-22 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bitMonkey** joined.* [08-Apr-22 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bitMonkey** left.* [08-Apr-22 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nir** joined.* [08-Apr-22 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zviracek** left.* [08-Apr-22 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jomama21** left.* [09-Apr-22 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ririviboh** left.* [10-Apr-22 03:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xav** joined.* [10-Apr-22 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mandl** joined.* [10-Apr-22 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lowstrife**: posted ad buying TRU [10-Apr-22 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lowstrife**: need 4 because I forgot to bring em' [10-Apr-22 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lowstrife**: help would be appreciated [10-Apr-22 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: looks like someone already grabbed your ad [10-Apr-22 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dapuppeteer** left.* [10-Apr-22 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Stonke** joined.* [11-Apr-22 08:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MADDOG9100** joined.* [11-Apr-22 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***deNoailles** joined.* [11-Apr-22 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KennyWong** joined.* [11-Apr-22 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KennyWong** left.* [11-Apr-22 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anyone spare a few HMS? [11-Apr-22 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***armorlord** deleted this message.* [11-Apr-22 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: they have been in short supply for quite some time [11-Apr-22 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ah, I go through them so slowly (0.4/d) that I didn't even notice [11-Apr-22 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PhilQc** joined.* [12-Apr-22 12:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **deNoailles**: Hi all! I'm new here. What's the going rate for small/medium shipments to/from Avalon and Prom/HRT? Is there anyone who makes regular trips I should be aware of? Thanks! [12-Apr-22 04:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: hello and welcome. avalon is a much quieter place than promitor. many ships come full and leave mostly empty so there's typically one way shipping [12-Apr-22 04:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: i've seen rates in the 5-10/unit [12-Apr-22 05:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nirces**: I make a trip avalon to hrt every 1,5 days, normally have 200t/v spare [12-Apr-22 05:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **deNoailles**: Good to know. Thank you both! [12-Apr-22 05:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nirces**: hrt to prom is spare. prom to avalon is normally full [12-Apr-22 07:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **stackem**: FWIW, I usually pay at least 4 per major measurement, with a minimum of 100 for smaller shipments. Tack on fuel rates if you want to play with the BLU command [12-Apr-22 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NTG** left.* [12-Apr-22 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dapupeteer** joined.* [13-Apr-22 12:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kudlo1954** joined.* [13-Apr-22 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fuel4U** left.* [13-Apr-22 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: we have a PAR now? neat [13-Apr-22 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: took forever to set it up [13-Apr-22 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: PAR is the third step of the plan to use the accumulate tax coffers for POPI, along with feeding all the SST and INF and festivities III [13-Apr-22 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: would like to see techs rise in numbers in the next 2 pop reports [13-Apr-22 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tenkus** joined.* [14-Apr-22 05:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vsek** left.* [14-Apr-22 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Maces**: LF emergency PT [14-Apr-22 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Freakinbat88** left.* [14-Apr-22 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: got you [14-Apr-22 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZAPaDASH** joined.* [14-Apr-22 11:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CrashnBurns** joined.* [15-Apr-22 02:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **deNoailles**: Can any of you spare 1 BBH? Ad up on the LM. Thanks! 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Can anyone spare 12 GRN? Ad up on the LM. Thanks! [19-Apr-22 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **deNoailles**: Thanks @Willger! [19-Apr-22 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: plants are in your store ;) [19-Apr-22 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SneekiiBreekii** joined.* [19-Apr-22 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Icheez** joined.* [19-Apr-22 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***frankmoes** joined.* [19-Apr-22 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***frankmoes** left.* [19-Apr-22 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Okkudo** joined.* [20-Apr-22 12:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Techen** left.* [20-Apr-22 03:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Floples** joined.* [20-Apr-22 05:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Floples** left.* [20-Apr-22 06:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SoulSmaug** joined.* [20-Apr-22 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheEnvoy**: Someone forgot to feed his workers and now they are complaining... 200 RAT @ 75 ICA per on the LM. :) [20-Apr-22 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anyone have cargo avalon -> ANT? Leaving in ~2h with a mostly-empty ship [20-Apr-22 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sexcucumber** joined.* [20-Apr-22 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aksar** joined.* [20-Apr-22 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FLOPPA_SP4CEGL1D1NG** joined.* [20-Apr-22 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Krypteia** joined.* [20-Apr-22 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Amerios** joined.* [20-Apr-22 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***kpNXs** joined.* [20-Apr-22 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***oGBubbz** joined.* [20-Apr-22 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***hkjj293** joined.* [20-Apr-22 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BlubGamer555** joined.* [20-Apr-22 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bpdev** joined.* [20-Apr-22 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***splitkooks** joined.* [20-Apr-22 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Praxicus** joined.* [20-Apr-22 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZA_PANDO** joined.* [20-Apr-22 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: Welcome everybody! thank for you for choosing avalon as your new home base [20-Apr-22 01:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: I just saw a FB advert - I popped on expecting to see this and was not disappointed [20-Apr-22 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: Please ask away any get started quetions on the global chat and consult the handbook wiki [20-Apr-22 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pelican_masterrace** joined.* [20-Apr-22 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Evol** joined.* [20-Apr-22 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Bant**: o/ Welcome new people. Avalon is a weird planet to start on, but not a bad one! Most of the tutorial careers probably don't work very well here? I recommend just building Food Processors and buying inputs at the Hortus CX. Promitor is overflowing with Farmers now and agricultural goods are abundant, but can't be grown here on Avalon. We do have a 25% bonus to Food Processing, however, which works out quite well. 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[21-Apr-22 05:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AlbertoTrader** joined.* [21-Apr-22 06:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: Hello new avalonians. Here is a tip. Even tho we are in hortus sometimes you might wanna look at Moria to sell your food as it is worth more there [21-Apr-22 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **blessed**: I am trying to get a fuel business going here [21-Apr-22 06:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Letsparty** joined.* [21-Apr-22 07:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AlmaCansada** left.* [21-Apr-22 07:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***veggiemitepizza** joined.* [21-Apr-22 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: it is quite worthwhile to buy food on the exchange here and sell it at moria if you have excess shipping capacity [21-Apr-22 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: I'm not sure if this planet is the best for fuel production. TS is present in a rather small quantity here, and HE3 can be directly extracted from other planets, saving on refinery duty cycle [21-Apr-22 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***hkjj293** left.* [21-Apr-22 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***hkjj293** joined.* [21-Apr-22 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***YBR2002** joined.* [21-Apr-22 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FarniteV** joined.* [21-Apr-22 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***pinkteddytwitch** joined.* [21-Apr-22 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: RAT is also expensive in Antares space (RAT.AI1). not as much so as Moria (RAT.NC1), but it's also closer [21-Apr-22 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vendrium** joined.* [21-Apr-22 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***blinkerel** joined.* [21-Apr-22 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tenkus** left.* [21-Apr-22 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Stealth328** joined.* [21-Apr-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yokstrike** joined.* [21-Apr-22 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***heehee46** joined.* [21-Apr-22 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DoktorAce** joined.* [21-Apr-22 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Looks like I forgot to feed a few people! Can anyone spare 200 RAT immediately for a good price? Ad is on the LM now. Much obliged! [27-Apr-22 05:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: OOOPS too ;) ... i loaded all RAT just now in the ship and it departed already to promitor :( need 50 units ;) [27-Apr-22 06:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nferno** joined.* [27-Apr-22 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***wan1126** joined.* [27-Apr-22 06:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***StuNisLaw** joined.* [27-Apr-22 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fingledobe** left.* [27-Apr-22 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***moralez** joined.* [27-Apr-22 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vogdush** joined.* [27-Apr-22 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SIROB** joined.* [27-Apr-22 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Welli_MD** joined.* [27-Apr-22 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***polorim** joined.* [27-Apr-22 02:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tadear** left.* [27-Apr-22 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Okkudo** left.* [27-Apr-22 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I just put up some rat/dw ads up, for those in need. reasonably priced, as always [27-Apr-22 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: very happy to see population hapiness levels where they are and technician unemployment [27-Apr-22 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: filling POPI will continue to be the major expense of tax revenue [27-Apr-22 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Assanova**: buying TRU for 800/u on LM [27-Apr-22 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RopeLord** joined.* [27-Apr-22 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Asidonhopo** joined.* [28-Apr-22 06:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BirDt_** joined.* [28-Apr-22 07:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Space_Ducky** joined.* [28-Apr-22 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***boo314** left.* [28-Apr-22 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AKO_30_** joined.* [28-Apr-22 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Syandriel** left.* [28-Apr-22 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sexcucumber** left.* [28-Apr-22 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aksar** left.* [28-Apr-22 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Globa** joined.* [28-Apr-22 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Amerios** left.* [28-Apr-22 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MsOrange**: dayum! 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Coffers will be bankrupt if taxes would not be increased slightly. I'm hopeful that 10-30 credits more per day won't affect our new players too wildly [30-Apr-22 05:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: Here is the expenses sheet for anyone interested: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Nje_qEWrt_DcUNNrQIlAP1VWIGjayRXA1y0HZsguomM/edit#gid=0 {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Nje_qEWrt_DcUNNrQIlAP1VWIGjayRXA1y0HZsguomM/edit avalon P&L Sheet1 Income,date,expenses,date,net starting reserves,3/25/22,1000000,engineer immigration,3/25/22,80000,57326 taxes,3/27/22,11750,220 DW -> SST,3/27/22,11000 remainind reserves,3/29/2022,126460,80 SUN -> SST,3/27/22,20800 taxes,4/3/22,116050,60 OFF -> INF,3/27/22,23067 taxes,4/10/22,148410,16 ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/pn-ELH7D4zav57ogOUOTzG_uIxJneX4xh6EJhp0yjLw/https/lh6.googleusercontent.com/D31jZMPerYQh10tsV-HLGEYUnb2G4lfo4K0irYowHXC9G5BqYjzc_xGF1gSBKjCicn2DnggcLEla_w%3Dw1200-h630-p [30-Apr-22 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***quarague** joined.* [30-Apr-22 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***quarague** left.* [30-Apr-22 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BladeRavinger** joined.* [30-Apr-22 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lyckomackan** left.* [30-Apr-22 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Daney** left.* [30-Apr-22 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***edpovi** joined.* [30-Apr-22 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Klikks**: increased taxes? Time to throw the tea into the ocean! 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The next week or two will be spent on maintainance supplies for the POPI and keeping festivities at level II as it seems to balance the current population requirements. Excess funds will be added to the coffers for future expansion pending player and price levels [04-May-22 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **HurtReynolds**: thanks for the update, gov'nr [04-May-22 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pdubsmcgee** left.* [04-May-22 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Draconicchaos** left.* [04-May-22 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dxrkk** left.* [04-May-22 11:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kevion** left.* [04-May-22 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Duckie** left.* [04-May-22 11:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***onderSay** left.* [05-May-22 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***redundantusage** joined.* [05-May-22 03:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***blackbrut** left.* [05-May-22 03:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***yeeck** left.* [05-May-22 07:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Celvin5969** left.* [05-May-22 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***moralez** left.* [05-May-22 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vogdush** left.* [05-May-22 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***butterflug** joined.* [05-May-22 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kekaroo** left.* [05-May-22 01:11 PM] 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That's 10/u UNDER the MM (50/u) You can make a little cash buying it there, and selling to the CX. Or, you can jump it to Moria CX and sell it for 62+/u [09-May-22 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: Just remember that Moria uses NCC as cash, not ICA, so buy stuff there, to bring back and sell here, to convert the currency back [09-May-22 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DANMAN0172** left.* [09-May-22 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mrcottonmouth** left.* [09-May-22 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cognoscentus** joined.* [09-May-22 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cedric.laurent** left.* [09-May-22 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aront123** left.* [09-May-22 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jeroni** left.* [09-May-22 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Cognoscentus**: Howdy [09-May-22 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Peter-** joined.* [09-May-22 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***4destiny4divinity4duality** left.* [09-May-22 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jeran** joined.* [09-May-22 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lookasz** left.* [09-May-22 07:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***thehowlinggreywolf** joined.* [09-May-22 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheangryJewishbagle** joined.* [09-May-22 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: hello [09-May-22 09:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sephiroth312** left.* [10-May-22 03:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***madoledo420** left.* [10-May-22 04:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***brouxdaan** joined.* [10-May-22 04:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CorpusCallosum** left.* [10-May-22 06:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sansemin** joined.* [10-May-22 07:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BladeRavinger** left.* [11-May-22 03:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CaptainTriangle** left.* [11-May-22 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user77f28391e0** left.* [11-May-22 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***zandeez** left.* [11-May-22 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Edvards_P** left.* [11-May-22 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jabin.sierra** left.* [11-May-22 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: anyone have 2x BTA or 1x BDE handy? [11-May-22 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ... or 2x BDE. I miscounted. [11-May-22 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thejeffcooper**: ads up on the LM above market price! [11-May-22 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TNE** joined.* [11-May-22 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3f34c48b18** left.* [11-May-22 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Traderz** joined.* [11-May-22 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CarlR** left.* [12-May-22 05:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Catra** left.* [12-May-22 06:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nanobreath** left.* [12-May-22 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3d6691fad6** left.* [12-May-22 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***atack121** left.* [12-May-22 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***aceofspadesgaming016** joined.* [12-May-22 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: i'll be running for another term as governor. I've been very pleased with the progress made to keep full employment and now that POPI resources have been stockpiled I'll begin accumulating taxes to restore the coffers which are nearly empty. [12-May-22 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***armorlord** deleted this message.* [12-May-22 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: Due to the growing population and generally increased cx prices, taxes might need to be raised by 2-3 credits for pioneers, 3-4 credits for settlers next week. otherwise the functioning of the planet is quite secure [12-May-22 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: for anyone interested there is a balance sheet that can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Nje_qEWrt_DcUNNrQIlAP1VWIGjayRXA1y0HZsguomM/edit?usp=sharing {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Nje_qEWrt_DcUNNrQIlAP1VWIGjayRXA1y0HZsguomM/edit?usp=sharing avalon P&L Sheet1 Income,date,expenses,date,net starting reserves,3/25/22,1000000,engineer immigration,3/25/22,80000,99588 taxes,3/27/22,11750,220 DW -> SST,3/27/22,11000 remainind reserves,3/29/2022,126460,80 SUN -> SST,3/27/22,20800 taxes,4/3/22,116050,60 OFF -> INF,3/27/22,23067 taxes,4/10/22,148410,16 ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/pn-ELH7D4zav57ogOUOTzG_uIxJneX4xh6EJhp0yjLw/https/lh6.googleusercontent.com/D31jZMPerYQh10tsV-HLGEYUnb2G4lfo4K0irYowHXC9G5BqYjzc_xGF1gSBKjCicn2DnggcLEla_w%3Dw1200-h630-p [12-May-22 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: feel free to message me if you're interested in selling materials below cx prices [12-May-22 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ostrogothica** left.* [12-May-22 07:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Climbatize** left.* [13-May-22 02:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***peliculon** left.* [13-May-22 02:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***redundantusage** left.* [13-May-22 03:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jbaker96** joined.* [13-May-22 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: Is there a planetary infrastructure need for BRM or SOI? 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[14-May-22 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Netheril**: Hi there [14-May-22 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: if you look at the population infrastructure there is the PAR that needs those items on a regular basis to maintain worker numbers, crucially at this time technicians and to a lesser extend engineers [14-May-22 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: I've been buying items at the exchange using the taxes and contributing the items to the POPI [14-May-22 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: if you wish to sell anything to contribute to any of the POPI let me know and I'll set up a recurring purchase becuase at this time there are no scheduled sellers [14-May-22 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kaustos** left.* [14-May-22 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd881d10b20** left.* [14-May-22 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user45e11a77e7** left.* [14-May-22 06:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lavgod** joined.* [14-May-22 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Coopm** left.* [14-May-22 11:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 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Not many planets can offer that tier of a workforce on an immediate basis and out little planet is only half full. Coffers will continue to run on fumes for this week despite the ~3 credits increase in taxes due to the expanding population to the point that next week will likely go into negatives territory if taxes were not increased. I will continue attempting to tweak fees in the smallest possible increments to match expenses, likely a 2 credits increase for pioneers sometime next week [20-May-22 04:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sun-E** left.* [20-May-22 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***slumbo** joined.* [20-May-22 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf3a24c0fee** left.* [20-May-22 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Southernlovr** joined.* [20-May-22 10:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrCyberPugy** left.* [21-May-22 03:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **deNoailles**: Hi all! Happy Saturday! Can anyone spare 1 BDE? Ad on the LM. Cheers! 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If anyone is interested in employing engineers please contact me to arrange targeted recruitment [25-May-22 06:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SAINTDIMASHQ** joined.* [26-May-22 01:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***25gemini06** left.* [26-May-22 04:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NaoHeavensmaid** joined.* [26-May-22 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RayFisch** left.* [26-May-22 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ragorix** left.* [26-May-22 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpeaceKy** left.* [26-May-22 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Osalinho** left.* [26-May-22 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***yeetsticks_1253** joined.* [26-May-22 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Revilo196** left.* [26-May-22 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1a6b137d83** left.* [26-May-22 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***redjaj** left.* [27-May-22 12:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Senriss** left.* [27-May-22 01:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shadirva** left.* [27-May-22 02:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GSi** left.* [27-May-22 03:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***01** left.* [27-May-22 04:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ThoPas** left.* [27-May-22 05:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **deNoailles**: Can anyone spare 2 LSE right now for an outrageous price? :) [27-May-22 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: out of EXO. Posted for 20, if someone can help me out [27-May-22 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WatMan** joined.* [27-May-22 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mahony1** left.* [27-May-22 09:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userdf79152ecd** left.* [28-May-22 03:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***WatMan** left.* [28-May-22 05:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***treysen.joseth** joined.* [28-May-22 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***slumbo** left.* [28-May-22 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Littha** joined.* [29-May-22 12:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nerdium** joined.* [29-May-22 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DEJA_BLUE_V2** joined.* [29-May-22 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nerdium** left.* [29-May-22 11:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2717cdc3b0** left.* [30-May-22 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **deNoailles**: Happy Monday friends! Can anyone spare 1 BSE? Ad on the LM. Thanks! 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Expecting a significant coffers reserve to start building and taxes may be lowered in 2 weeks [01-Jun-22 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **deNoailles**: Thanks armorlord! Much appreciated! [02-Jun-22 01:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mulibu** joined.* [02-Jun-22 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: looking for 10 PWO, ad at LM ;) [02-Jun-22 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **deNoailles**: I got you. Cheers! 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If elected, my plan will remain largely the same with keeping decent unemployment levels and growing the coffers for future POPI works. all infrastructure is supplied with over 2 months in stock. A reversal of the last tax hike will likely take place after the weekly tax revenue summary on Sunday [09-Jun-22 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BlueSkye** joined.* [10-Jun-22 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***terrrrrible** left.* [10-Jun-22 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Draculla** joined.* [10-Jun-22 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dryhicory81** joined.* [11-Jun-22 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nirces**: Ad up for some OVE if anyone has some please? 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[17-Jun-22 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nirces**: thank you [17-Jun-22 06:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: np [17-Jun-22 06:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jordan2k** left.* [17-Jun-22 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BlueSkye** left.* [17-Jun-22 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***splitkooks** left.* [18-Jun-22 06:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***StuNisLaw** left.* [18-Jun-22 07:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AlpoFish** joined.* [18-Jun-22 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***holetanks** left.* [18-Jun-22 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Idontgrind** left.* [18-Jun-22 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Joakkar** joined.* [18-Jun-22 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dryhicory81** left.* [18-Jun-22 10:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jest5959** left.* [19-Jun-22 04:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***blinkerel** left.* [19-Jun-22 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Littlebeans** joined.* [19-Jun-22 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Id10t** joined.* [20-Jun-22 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user1bfc40c512** left.* [20-Jun-22 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***shintsu** joined.* [20-Jun-22 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ashmael** left.* [21-Jun-22 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc176af2edf** left.* [21-Jun-22 05:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MsOrange** left.* [21-Jun-22 06:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lawrence4868** left.* [21-Jun-22 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mammoth_Empire** left.* [22-Jun-22 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nferno** left.* [22-Jun-22 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Heartheim** left.* [23-Jun-22 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userdfe777f271** left.* [23-Jun-22 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: population and POPI remain strong with plenty of workforce for anyone interested in base expansion. no foreseeable changes in taxes given current market prices. If you wish to supply any of the POPI materials please send a PM as there are still no suppliers [23-Jun-22 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alfa199** left.* [23-Jun-22 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BandusDR** joined.* [24-Jun-22 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***afroguardian** left.* [24-Jun-22 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Velicent** joined.* [24-Jun-22 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Velicent** left.* [25-Jun-22 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user11e7db33ca** left.* [25-Jun-22 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: Looking for 1 BSE, ad at LM😉 [25-Jun-22 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Boombeach0236** left.* [26-Jun-22 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: Looking for OVE, ad at LM [26-Jun-22 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Joakkar** left.* [26-Jun-22 11:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sadistic_Djinn** left.* [27-Jun-22 05:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***butterflug** left.* [28-Jun-22 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***shintsu** left.* [28-Jun-22 11:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ench** left.* [29-Jun-22 05:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JimQuant** joined.* [29-Jun-22 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **stackem**: PSA for those that buy fuel from me: [29-Jun-22 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **stackem**: New pricing is as follows, FF @ 8ICA/, SF @9.50/ [29-Jun-22 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **stackem**: Following on, though put is limited (3k FF, 4.5k SF per day). I would prefer if ads were for one day's production or less [29-Jun-22 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GoldenJakAL** joined.* [30-Jun-22 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AlpoFish** left.* [30-Jun-22 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere2666cb761** left.* [30-Jun-22 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: lf emergency MCG posted 50% over cx [30-Jun-22 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NerfWhatKilledMe** left.* [30-Jun-22 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Watson1423** joined.* [01-Jul-22 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: 8/u for FF is 1 under the CX min, so someone is desperate to dump their stock [01-Jul-22 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **mmmd**: or just ships boucher ->avalon and needs to offer FF for the shippers to stay loyal :D [02-Jul-22 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user92a4fc6b5f** left.* [02-Jul-22 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***yesplease** left.* [02-Jul-22 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***VortennTech** joined.* [02-Jul-22 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***heehee46** left.* [03-Jul-22 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sirbalin** left.* [03-Jul-22 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dave_Stingert** joined.* [03-Jul-22 06:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Godtastic** left.* [04-Jul-22 10:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **stackem**: @Talmar, it's so I don't have to ship product to CX [04-Jul-22 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Watson1423** left.* [05-Jul-22 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rakoo** joined.* [06-Jul-22 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***samhoangs** joined.* [06-Jul-22 02:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userdfe9ef2b40** left.* [06-Jul-22 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***storzo** left.* [07-Jul-22 03:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Id10t** left.* [07-Jul-22 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JimQuant** left.* [07-Jul-22 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***X3** left.* [07-Jul-22 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Hi everyone! I'm currently standing for Governor of Avalon, as you can see. My main policy platform is the following: to lower taxes as much as possible, maintain and expand infrastructure as needed to ensure that Pioneers and Settlers remain plentiful, and to maintain open communication on how our fine planet is doing. Above all, though, I'm mostly standing because I think a little bit of friendly competition is beneficial for both sides, and so no matter the outcome this election cycle should hopefully be a fun one. [07-Jul-22 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: I've been keeping quiet with updates as the planet is back to running optimally for two weeks. I'm still interested in continuing the governorship. In the past 3 months the planet has transformed from a lackluster ball with unfilled POPI to having acceptable population of every needed tier. Given the new ENG openings a targeted program will be run when the current festivities expires. Taxes have been on the lower end of managed planets (it is not uncommon to see pioneer taxes in the 35-40s range) yet the coffers have been sufficient to cater to all POPI and the COGC while still modestly grow on a weekly basis with a current reserve of around 500k, growing roughly by 20-30k per week. ( see link for complete P&L: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Nje_qEWrt_DcUNNrQIlAP1VWIGjayRXA1y0HZsguomM/edit?usp=sharing ). If continued to be elected I will continue to maintain topped-off POPI by donating my shipping capacity and purchasing as much as available from the local producers. {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Nje_qEWrt_DcUNNrQIlAP1VWIGjayRXA1y0HZsguomM/edit?usp=sharing avalon P&L Sheet1 Income,date,expenses,date,net,older -->,expenses,date starting reserves,3/25/22,1000000,521188,engineer immigration,3/25/22,80000 taxes,3/27/22,11750,56 FOD -> PAR,6/22/22,8400,220 DW -> SST,3/27/22,11000 remainind reserves,3/29/2022,126460,200 DW -> SST,6/23/22,11000,80 SUN -> SST,3/27/2... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/pn-ELH7D4zav57ogOUOTzG_uIxJneX4xh6EJhp0yjLw/https/lh6.googleusercontent.com/D31jZMPerYQh10tsV-HLGEYUnb2G4lfo4K0irYowHXC9G5BqYjzc_xGF1gSBKjCicn2DnggcLEla_w%3Dw1200-h630-p [07-Jul-22 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: I have and continue to appreciate the residents' support and confidence. I will continue to fulfill all requests directed at planetary business. Your vote is important, I am honored to have it. [07-Jul-22 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dapupeteer** left.* [08-Jul-22 04:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Avalon has some of the highest taxes in Hortus: none of the major planets have higher taxes on Pioneers (let alone in the 35-40 range), and most are far lower. Out of Avalon, Boucher, Promitor and Nova Honshu, the only tax brackets in which Avalon is not highest is Scientists and Settlers (Nova Honshu has slightly higher settler taxes at 40, which offset the PIO taxes of 10). While it may be the case that taxes are higher somewhere else, down in Hortus Avalon is not on the lower end: its on the higher end. [08-Jul-22 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: in this list of planets the taxes are lwoer as POPI is not filled up - certainly not boucher which misses most of its POPI consumables, and certainly not nova honshu which doesnt have much POPI to begin with - that is the mismanaged state avalon was in 3 months ago [08-Jul-22 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: promitor can indeed maintain lower taxes for pioneers as it is such a gigantic planet the overall revenue is sufficient to keep them all happy. a counterexample is vallis and montem which still maintain pioneer taxes at 40 as a forgotten attempt to increase coffers [08-Jul-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: perhaps I should rephrase - avalon taxes are maintained at its current levels while also having POPI and COGC well managed - not once in 3 months has the planet experienced anything but prosperity as I donated all shipping capacity and a million credits to make that happen [08-Jul-22 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***construct0r** joined.* [08-Jul-22 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **deNoailles**: I, for one, only notice taxes when things go wrong. As far as I'm concerned, set them wherever they need to be to keep things running smoothly. [08-Jul-22 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: I thought you were talking about noticing "taxes when things go wrong" in the real world. Profound for the demographic who are a $1000 crisis away from collapse. [08-Jul-22 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DiggingLake** deleted this message.* [08-Jul-22 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Fortunately not: that is a far more depressing subject than in-game tax rates (no matter how high they may be). [08-Jul-22 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: And, as far as not caring what the tax rate is: sure, in that case you should probably stick with what you know. [08-Jul-22 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Do I personally have issues paying the taxes? No, not really. [08-Jul-22 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Do I think amorlord is doing an awful job as Governor, such that they deserve to be thrown out of office come what may? No, clearly not. [08-Jul-22 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: But the taxes are relatively high, when through better management of POPI and judicious use of donations they could be lowered, and given the player wave from Promitor is going to be hitting here soon (if it hasn't arrived already) I believe it is well worth lowering taxes on Avalon now the planet isn't strapped for cash. [08-Jul-22 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **deNoailles**: @RayKowalchuk - Yeah, definitely notice real life taxes a lot more. :D [08-Jul-22 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: I agree with IRL taxes. The player wave from promitor has not hit the planet at all at this time [08-Jul-22 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: A reserve of 500k is the bare minimum to be able to maintain POPI and pay for programs. As of the last few weeks having 20-30k coffers growth means taxes are perfectly set at this time and should not be lowered [08-Jul-22 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: If a wave from promitor will hit the planet it is likely that the additional demand for population will not outstrip current expenditures [08-Jul-22 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I'll keep my vote for Armorlord. He's been doing a fine job so far [08-Jul-22 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GoldenJakAL** left.* [08-Jul-22 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BandusDR**: Anarchy [08-Jul-22 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Well, that was unfortunate timing for the COGC to go on strike xD [08-Jul-22 07:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: I’ve filled the RAT and DW, but I don’t have sufficient MCG or PE here to cover them. [08-Jul-22 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: *facepalm* ive had those resources sitting on inv for 4 days now [08-Jul-22 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: completely forgot why I need PE over here, apologies [08-Jul-22 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: supplies for the next cycle will be completed tomorrow [08-Jul-22 11:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BirDt_** left.* [09-Jul-22 04:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MojoKat** joined.* [09-Jul-22 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: it might be worth asking on the Promitor planet chat what people think they will be getting up to, sound out the new players from steam release and see what they are thinking [09-Jul-22 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: I've been advising on the chat that avalonb is a logical expansion choice from prom. so far there's been very few takers [09-Jul-22 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: however the planet is ready to accept ~50 new players who would want to mostly employ pioneers and settlers with current POPI and reserves. [09-Jul-22 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Majestic12** left.* [09-Jul-22 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***thehowlinggreywolf** left.* [09-Jul-22 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **mmmd**: i am happy i went here :D [09-Jul-22 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: your support is greatly appreciated [09-Jul-22 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***armorlord** deleted this message.* [09-Jul-22 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: all of your votes are the confidence that I can manage the planet well and I am happy to continue to do so [09-Jul-22 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kalinda**: leaving Hortus cx, to avalon, with cargo space available, send msg or post an ad on the lm [10-Jul-22 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **mmmd**: are't thre a ton? [10-Jul-22 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: I have excellent planetary news. with the recent weekly tax income and well-stocked POPI the coffers are approaching pre-management levels of approximately 3 months ago. pioneer taxes can be lowered by an additional credit for the week, plus likely another credit next week [10-Jul-22 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: with this reduction and no large shifts in the population the planet will likely achieve POPI steady-state [10-Jul-22 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: once this is achieved and maintained for a few weeks I'll reach out again and see if the denizens would be interested in keeping largely minimal taxes or attempt to continue slowly enlarging the rainy-day coffers [10-Jul-22 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***xamotex1000** joined.* [11-Jul-22 03:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***l0st** left.* [11-Jul-22 04:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Looks like I was right, taxes can easily be lowered, or otherwise me standing as candidate has rattled the Governor more than I thought (such that they feel the need to cut taxes during the election campaign). [11-Jul-22 04:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: if he wasn't constantly altering the tax rate I'd be inclined to believe you, it's better than other governors that set and forget about the tax rate [11-Jul-22 04:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: that's not to say I don't apricate the debate mind you, it was interesting to read [11-Jul-22 04:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: but in this case, I'm inclinded to believe Armorlord [11-Jul-22 04:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Either way, taxes could still be cut further: as taxpayers, we are paying through the nose to fight game mechanics and maintain massive population buffers (31% unemployment on Settlers, for example, which is why they are so unhappy and keep trying to leave). While there may be edge cases where such massive population buffers are used, the likelihood is that most of the money is just going to be wasted as the game mechanics slowly bleed population. [11-Jul-22 04:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: This is not necessarily negligent use of planetary resources, just inefficient. It’s throwing our money at the problem, rather than using our money smartly. [11-Jul-22 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***armorlord** deleted this message.* [11-Jul-22 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***armorlord** deleted this message.* [11-Jul-22 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: and as bazdakka mentioned I have indeed been tweaking taxes to fix the problems of the planet. I doubt you would have had the inclination to lower than by 1 credit without understanding the POPI situation well [11-Jul-22 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: you are welcome to see the changes in taxes in the P&L of the planet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Nje_qEWrt_DcUNNrQIlAP1VWIGjayRXA1y0HZsguomM/edit#gid=0 however this is greatly skewed by the player influx {Embed} https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Nje_qEWrt_DcUNNrQIlAP1VWIGjayRXA1y0HZsguomM/edit avalon P&L Sheet1 Income,date,expenses,date,net,older -->,expenses,date starting reserves,3/25/22,1000000,726018.04,engineer immigration,3/25/22,80000 taxes,3/27/22,11750,56 FOD -> PAR,6/22/22,8400,220 DW -> SST,3/27/22,11000 remainind reserves,3/29/2022,126460,200 DW -> SST,6/23/22,11000,80 SUN -> SST,3/2... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/pn-ELH7D4zav57ogOUOTzG_uIxJneX4xh6EJhp0yjLw/https/lh6.googleusercontent.com/D31jZMPerYQh10tsV-HLGEYUnb2G4lfo4K0irYowHXC9G5BqYjzc_xGF1gSBKjCicn2DnggcLEla_w%3Dw1200-h630-p [11-Jul-22 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: regardless, this is not inefficient use of taxes. none has been misused including the quantity sitting at the coffers. reducing pioneer unemployment will greatly inhibit the growth of the higher population tiers [11-Jul-22 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: speaking of which, since we have a sufficient population buffer this week's program will be engineer immigration to fill the listed open jobs. There might be some leftover engineers - if anyone considered developing another structure [11-Jul-22 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: money is not thrown anywhere [11-Jul-22 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: It doesn't have to be misused to be inefficient: if your objective is higher tier growth, then you are far better off minimising unemployment at lower tiers so that you get the maximum effect for the POPI on the happiness of higher tiers. [11-Jul-22 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Don't get me wrong: throwing money at it works. Just look at Circe, which is probably the most developed planet of them all. But there are other ways to do it, and its worth highlighting that even if people ultimately prefer to maintain high taxes and high spending. [11-Jul-22 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: (Since what is an election but a debate on how the local government should function?) [11-Jul-22 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Well, I guess it could be a corp vs corp election, but from my understanding neither of us are running as candidates from major corps. [11-Jul-22 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bluedicho** left.* [11-Jul-22 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: At this time we have no population growth objective. The currebtly fullfilled goal was getting everyone the workers they needed up to technicians [11-Jul-22 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: And yes, I have never been part of a corp [11-Jul-22 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: Circe is the most developed planet because SNF needed a high-tech planet to do high-tech stuff, so we threw millions at it. Massive building initiative to boost those high tech pops. And this was before the program changes. [11-Jul-22 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user66c88496b2** left.* [11-Jul-22 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Yeah. The fact that you were able to do that was pretty impressive. [12-Jul-22 05:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nirces**: ad up for OVE [12-Jul-22 05:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nirces**: Higher tiers from from Education and Migration, with Engineers and above coming from Education only [12-Jul-22 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nirces**: Education is a percentage of the previous tier, higher umeployment can lead to more being promoted to a higher tier, providing you can keep everyone 50% happy, massive employment can lead to larger growth [12-Jul-22 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nirces**: of Engineers and above, Technicians will simply migrate in if they are happy [12-Jul-22 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: My understanding was that the education rate was affected by the happiness of the tier being educated into, and that maintaining happiness at said tier was also important to prevent them migrating away after you had put the effort in to spawn them in the first place. [12-Jul-22 07:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: And, also, that maintaining happiness is much harder with high levels of unemployment in lower tiers, due to how needs are shared across and consumed by multiple tiers. 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[15-Jul-22 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: thank you for the acknowledgement. I am glad to hear how you would like to improve avalon [15-Jul-22 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ironhead** joined.* [16-Jul-22 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***construct0r** left.* [16-Jul-22 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gods_Machine** left.* [17-Jul-22 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Feldsperling** left.* [17-Jul-22 02:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NoChadLee**: need a BTA... contract at LM [17-Jul-22 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NoChadLee**: ...thnx... 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[21-Jul-22 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: correct [21-Jul-22 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: the pace is slow [21-Jul-22 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: welcome to the planet [21-Jul-22 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: I advise to not build BSE here rather purchase some at the exchange [21-Jul-22 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: you'll learn soon enough that you made some fatal economic decisions. do not be afraid to COLIQ in the next 3-4 days [21-Jul-22 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TRex_Fireplug**: Thanks for the hint and yes...I'm nearly broke. [21-Jul-22 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TRex_Fireplug**: lol [21-Jul-22 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TRex_Fireplug** left.* [21-Jul-22 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: once you go through enough tutorials and figure out the interface COLIQ [21-Jul-22 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: i'd be happy to lend you credits to catapult your growth [21-Jul-22 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Buying votes hmmm :P [21-Jul-22 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MADDOG9100**: i think, it's more so investing in the Local economy :P [21-Jul-22 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: My tax dollars aint payin for no soshalism [21-Jul-22 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: pure capitalism. if you grow good become more plentiful and cheaper [21-Jul-22 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: as an aside you'd be throwing the devs a bone by buying at least a month of PRO which helps the game [21-Jul-22 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: goods* [21-Jul-22 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: and I've gotten to the point where I really dont mind lending some money, got far too many credits sitting around [21-Jul-22 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ItsKraZyKev** joined.* [21-Jul-22 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bakagal12** joined.* [21-Jul-22 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ItsKraZyKev** left.* [22-Jul-22 02:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **deNoailles**: Can anyone spare 2 BDE? Ad on the LM at a premium price. Thanks! [22-Jul-22 05:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nirces**: Ad for 10 PWO [22-Jul-22 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb84b9da072** left.* [22-Jul-22 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EcoTerra** joined.* [23-Jul-22 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user923f2675e5** left.* [23-Jul-22 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ironhead** left.* [24-Jul-22 12:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Myhay_16** joined.* [24-Jul-22 12:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***EvoV** joined.* [24-Jul-22 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***useref1a8274b5** left.* [24-Jul-22 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Evol** left.* [25-Jul-22 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nirces**: Ad up for some 50 RAT [27-Jul-22 02:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***b3dtime** joined.* [27-Jul-22 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **b3dtime**: Hello! [27-Jul-22 03:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: hello [27-Jul-22 06:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **deNoailles**: My miscalculations continue! Can anyone spare 200 FTL? Ad up for 20/u. Thanks! [27-Jul-22 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **deNoailles**: Merci @NoChadLee! [27-Jul-22 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user595baf274a** left.* [28-Jul-22 12:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***khendry** left.* [29-Jul-22 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Qualgar** left.* [29-Jul-22 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0a4ee8281b** left.* [30-Jul-22 06:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Klugen** joined.* [30-Jul-22 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***amimai002** joined.* [30-Jul-22 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***amimai002** left.* [30-Jul-22 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***amimai002** joined.* [31-Jul-22 06:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **deNoailles**: Can anyone spare some BSE? Ads are on the LM. Cheers! 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[05-Aug-22 07:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Papa DiggingLake is running now [05-Aug-22 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DEJA_BLUE_V2** left.* [05-Aug-22 09:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6754e5ccc9** left.* [06-Aug-22 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: hey everyone, no I will not be running for governor. IRL caught up and I'm mothballing my bases. When the election ends I'll trasfer all tax credits [06-Aug-22 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: It was a pleasure making avalon great again [06-Aug-22 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **armorlord**: I haven't been online in nearly two weeks and I completely forgot to restock the COGC. Apologies everyone, I don't have ships in the system to haul over any MCG or PE [06-Aug-22 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: I should be able to get my ship back from Hydron and carry some MCG and PE out by tomorrow. But if anyone is heading that route before then, either let me know and I'll ship the upkeep materials with you or bring the materials to stock the COGC and I'll reimburse you. [06-Aug-22 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: I'm at hrt in 24 hours. Will that be before/ after you are able to get down? [06-Aug-22 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Imaging around 36 hours before i can get to Avalon [06-Aug-22 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Imagin* [06-Aug-22 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: ....imagine. [06-Aug-22 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: I should be able to get there faster (by burning lots of fuel, mostly :) ) [06-Aug-22 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***njrperson** left.* [06-Aug-22 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: I have a bit of an emergncy RAT order on LM if anyone would be kind enough to fill it. [06-Aug-22 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: (Filled.) [06-Aug-22 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: ty bud [06-Aug-22 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: I have spare MCG on Avalon, mostly kept for repairs and when I bring in the other mats for my expansion plans [07-Aug-22 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Thanks for everyone's help. [07-Aug-22 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: (COGC is filled.) [07-Aug-22 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***01010100** left.* [07-Aug-22 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Afraib_Ollej** joined.* [07-Aug-22 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***unbind** joined.* [08-Aug-22 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sirfrank** joined.* [09-Aug-22 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***freiksenet** joined.* [10-Aug-22 01:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **freiksenet**: do we produce basic prefabs on this planet? CX prices right now are ridiculously high. [10-Aug-22 02:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: not really, though there might be someone's side prohect, the HRT region is poor on metals and LST to make them [10-Aug-22 02:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: best bet is by in either MOR or ANT regions, they usually buy the stuff we produce better at a higher price anyway [10-Aug-22 02:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: buy* in either MOR or ANT... [10-Aug-22 02:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: the HRT region is the bread basket of the game, BEN is ok, though I think that is more out of desperation since they are opposite us, but have fallen behind recently [10-Aug-22 02:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: we also do fuel surprisingly well (though BEN region still beats us) [10-Aug-22 02:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: as far as planets go, this one is a bit of a trap, it doesn't have much in the way of materials a new player would want to use, but makes a good second planet as Promitor is in system [10-Aug-22 02:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **freiksenet**: heh, well I'm trapped then. I'm making he3 currently, nothing much else [10-Aug-22 02:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **freiksenet**: promitor was full by the time I started [10-Aug-22 02:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **freiksenet**: maybe I should coliq [10-Aug-22 02:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: new players can put there first base on any planet [10-Aug-22 02:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: second base needs a open slot [10-Aug-22 02:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **freiksenet**: ah, I didn't know [10-Aug-22 02:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: it's so new players can't be locked out of good planets by long term players taking all the new player spots [10-Aug-22 02:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: yeah, it's a fairly new feature [10-Aug-22 02:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **freiksenet**: well anyway, let's see if I can survive this way [10-Aug-22 02:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: they are called ghost plots, when a normal plot opens up, a ghost plot becomes a normal plot [10-Aug-22 02:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: also good to learn more about the game before resetting since there is a cool down on it [10-Aug-22 02:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **freiksenet**: ah I see [10-Aug-22 02:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **freiksenet**: yeah, I'm in no rush [10-Aug-22 02:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: good, this is a slow game, and no speeding it up with real money, no wallet warriors here [10-Aug-22 02:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **freiksenet**: do local markets work? doesnt look like there are any good offers locally here [10-Aug-22 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: to use the LM, you need to pay for at least 1 month pro account [10-Aug-22 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: there isn't a lot being sold on this LM, it's fairly quite [10-Aug-22 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **freiksenet**: yeah I have gotten a pro account, market itself has 3 sell offers for fuel, but nothing else [10-Aug-22 02:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **freiksenet**: I'd have expected someone to sell stuff here so people can avoid cmx trip [10-Aug-22 02:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: most people even with pro still use the CX for 80% of there orders [10-Aug-22 02:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **freiksenet**: is he3 a reasonable thing to do here? I extract ts and refine it [10-Aug-22 02:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **freiksenet**: there is ts that refines into he3 [10-Aug-22 02:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: Promitor is insanely specialized, but the planets in system also allow really good fuel production, but it's not something I've done myself, so I can't say for sure [10-Aug-22 02:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: but most people here have a base on Promtor as well, grow crops there, ship them here and have all their FP here instead [10-Aug-22 02:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: but FP take up a lot less space than the FRMs do, so there is usually space left over on this planet, and people do various things with it, some use it to produce their own fuel [10-Aug-22 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: of course, not everyone specializes to this degree, but it is a fairly common one [10-Aug-22 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: it's one of the balancing things in this game, how much do you want to specialize, vs being a jack of all trades, and the answer is different for each person [10-Aug-22 02:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **freiksenet**: I see, thanks [10-Aug-22 02:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: a lot of this game is doing your a own research, since markets change, what worked for one person may not work for someone else due to prices being different [10-Aug-22 02:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: waiting, planning, and chatting in various channels make up a large part of the game [10-Aug-22 02:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: it means the payoff for a successful plan takes a while to see, but the satisfaction of well made plans working is amazing [10-Aug-22 02:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: even just listening to experienced players in global helps learn a lot, as we often discuses our plans or how things work [10-Aug-22 02:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: the game is simple, but there are more layers than you'd think at first, but each one follows on from the basic lessons, so it's not to hard to follow most of the time [10-Aug-22 03:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **freiksenet**: dunno what else, I guess I can import more gases and do fuel [10-Aug-22 03:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: HE3? no HE3 on this planet [10-Aug-22 03:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: oh, I see, TS into HE3, yeah, there is a few duel producers here, there are some good H planets in system but since they are gas giants, it's better to put the refineries here instead [10-Aug-22 03:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: TS refining is generally pretty bad: you are far better using those refinery cycles on fuel instead and just buying in the HE3. [10-Aug-22 03:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nalini**: If you do HE3, I will buy everything back from you. Right now I need about 130 a day, but if I get a good supplier I can expand and consume more. [10-Aug-22 03:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **freiksenet**: Sounds good, I'll start producing it tomorrow. I only have one refinery rn. [10-Aug-22 03:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **freiksenet**: so I can do like 6 units per day lol [10-Aug-22 03:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **freiksenet**: but I feel like I'll coliq and do a constriction prefabs business nearby to sell prefabs at promitor [10-Aug-22 03:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **freiksenet**: this has been a great learning experience tho [10-Aug-22 05:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***freiksenet** left.* [10-Aug-22 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Buy up for 20 PWO @ CX Ask. Ty in advance! [10-Aug-22 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I gotcha [10-Aug-22 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: This planet is for Food Production. If you want to refine fuel, you create a base on Helion Prime, which has a CoCG for Fuel Production. ;) [10-Aug-22 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: VH-043e is the HE3 planet. If you need lots of that, talk to the people there and you can get lots. [10-Aug-22 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: It's 1 jump from here [10-Aug-22 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: If you are a new player, you are probably better off not going to Helion Prime yet: INS is pretty expensive. Same with the option of making FF on Hydron, which is really a mid/late game play rather than something you want to do as a new player. [10-Aug-22 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: But yes, refining HE3 here is almost certainly not worth it: you'd be far better off buying it from the GG direct or from the CX. [10-Aug-22 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OniOfAsh** joined.* [11-Aug-22 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Titai** joined.* [12-Aug-22 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OddPotato** joined.* [12-Aug-22 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Dropped the Pioneer taxes to 10 (from 22-24) and the Settler taxes to 20 (from 34-36). I've left the others alone for now, while I figure out to what degree the government needs to support those population tiers (and because I think new players, who are likely to see the highest relative benefit to profitability from lower taxes, are less likely to be in those tiers). [12-Aug-22 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TuffyLess**: :thumbs up: ! Congratz Dig [12-Aug-22 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Making Avalon great again [12-Aug-22 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Afraib_Ollej** deleted this message.* [12-Aug-22 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Afraib_Ollej**: congrats, and nice! just got situated on Avalon and didn't even know it was happening, but that's good stuff... 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[16-Aug-22 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Afraib_Ollej**: nah I don't care what [16-Aug-22 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Afraib_Ollej**: just have FP not busy and gonna be some hours before I can stuff here [16-Aug-22 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Afraib_Ollej**: NUT or H2O might be ideal [16-Aug-22 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Afraib_Ollej**: VEG could fly too [16-Aug-22 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lakota_Macchiato** joined.* [17-Aug-22 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Decent POPR. Not much to comment on it, except that Safety seems to be a blocker and so I'll be upgrading the SST when I get a chance. [17-Aug-22 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rubicate** joined.* [17-Aug-22 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DeniedClimax** joined.* [18-Aug-22 02:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***gateaux** left.* [18-Aug-22 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***galchenok** joined.* [18-Aug-22 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **galchenok**: people? [18-Aug-22 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: ? [18-Aug-22 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Yes LOL? [18-Aug-22 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **galchenok**: how gamed this game? [18-Aug-22 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **galchenok**: =D [18-Aug-22 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **galchenok**: idk [18-Aug-22 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Watch the tutorials? [18-Aug-22 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **galchenok**: difficult [18-Aug-22 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/tutorials/ {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/tutorials/ Tutorials :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [18-Aug-22 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **galchenok**: tutorial? where? [18-Aug-22 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **galchenok**: thx dude [19-Aug-22 12:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OddPotato**: Looking for 200 MCG, i forgot to ship it, if someone can spare some I posted it a higher price than CX [19-Aug-22 12:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OddPotato**: thanks :D [19-Aug-22 12:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kalinda**: :-) [19-Aug-22 07:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: 450/450 free going to prom [19-Aug-22 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Skiipidar** joined.* [19-Aug-22 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **deNoailles**: @DeniedClimax - Posted 3 small ads to the LM for you if you haven't left yet. Cheers! [20-Aug-22 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **mmmd**: I might still have some shipping contracts of someone, but my CONTS stopped loading yesterday and Molp said he might not have time to check why on the weekend. Sorry in advance, but I can't see my old contracts right now (except contracts with changes while i am online) [20-Aug-22 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **mmmd**: So if i have anyones shipping, I am sorry, but I can't access it until molp fixes the bug. 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I might stick in another one if demand for pioneers keeps rising, but for now we should be good. [24-Aug-22 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DiggingLake** deleted this message.* [24-Aug-22 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Otherwise POPR looks decent. I might drop the program next week to Festivities I, unless anyone plans to employ those extra engineers (since the pioneers will continue to grow regardless and the other tiers have healthy unemployment numbers). [24-Aug-22 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: I intend to be slapping down another 1100 Pioneers in the next few weeks, not sure that info is pertinent, but nonetheless [24-Aug-22 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Useful to know still. [24-Aug-22 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: If its spread out over a few weeks it should be fine, its when multiple megabases are dropped in the same week that it becomes a bit of a problem. [24-Aug-22 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: (Even then, though, pioneers are fairly responsive compared to the other tiers and it isn't too hard to get them to flood in afterwards to fix any temporary shortfall.) [24-Aug-22 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Def won't one shot them all, will keep that in mind though, ty for the communication :) [24-Aug-22 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: No problem :) [24-Aug-22 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nalini**: I'm going to be adding 200-900 pioneers in the near future. [24-Aug-22 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: anyone headed here from MOR anytime soon? [25-Aug-22 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jwest23** joined.* [25-Aug-22 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **gatoratlaw**: more fat shipping contracts prom --> avalon, and one avalon --> hortus station [26-Aug-22 04:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **galchenok**: Greetings gyus. ?: workforce used if production stoped? [26-Aug-22 04:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: yes, that includes consumables [26-Aug-22 04:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: buildings also decay, so idle buildings are a waste of money [26-Aug-22 04:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **galchenok**: Thanks dude =) [26-Aug-22 04:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: np [26-Aug-22 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Afraib_Ollej**: if you want shipping to Promitor I'm leaving for it soon [27-Aug-22 01:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lijousse** joined.* [27-Aug-22 08:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Skiipidar** left.* [27-Aug-22 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SpyrzGaming** left.* [28-Aug-22 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mr_potato57** joined.* [28-Aug-22 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kaldi** joined.* [28-Aug-22 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rundeafso** left.* [29-Aug-22 05:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***zund_0112** joined.* [29-Aug-22 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: looking for 500 STL, ad at LM [29-Aug-22 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: sorry, i need SF [29-Aug-22 07:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Geheimsache** joined.* [29-Aug-22 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bodian** joined.* [29-Aug-22 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: Looking for 10 PWO, ad at LM [30-Aug-22 02:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***zund_0112** left.* [30-Aug-22 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***zund_0112** joined.* [30-Aug-22 04:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***IshNarGarn** left.* [30-Aug-22 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***QuarkNexen** joined.* [30-Aug-22 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheSquirrel390** left.* [30-Aug-22 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user48e7741802** left.* [31-Aug-22 05:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Looks most of the gain from the previous POPR went into unemployment, so stagnation in Pioneers isn't too bad an effect (since it means we aren't spending money trying to fight the game mechanics). It does look like there is a decent number educating: while not ideal, given their unemployment numbers, it is a little harder to pump them than Pioneers and as such I'm inclined to think it is ok. The trickle should settle into an equilibrium at some point (like it has with Engineers). Given all that, unless something changes I'm going to keep it on Planetary Festivities 1 next week too. [31-Aug-22 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: o7 [31-Aug-22 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **b3dtime**: Keep up the great work! [01-Sep-22 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Digging 4 Prez 4 Lyfe [01-Sep-22 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***capi3101** joined.* [01-Sep-22 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rjbob** joined.* [03-Sep-22 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***YJ14** joined.* [04-Sep-22 02:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lijousse** left.* [04-Sep-22 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Imlazy** joined.* [04-Sep-22 06:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Restiive** joined.* [05-Sep-22 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mr_potato57** left.* [05-Sep-22 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dohop0** joined.* [05-Sep-22 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MountainMan** joined.* [06-Sep-22 07:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Anyone have TRU on site theyd sell me? Im looking for 12 units [06-Sep-22 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: I've got some on Hortus. How fast do you need it? [06-Sep-22 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: No need - just want. I have some on HRT too so Ill likely just bring it down. Appreciate it anyway [06-Sep-22 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Afraib_Ollej**: @Rannepear I can CONTD you... what's fair? TRU.NC1 TRU.IC1 [06-Sep-22 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YJ14**: Anyone have 20 extra MCG lying around? I put a buy up on LM paying 25/u [06-Sep-22 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: I do if you didnt already [06-Sep-22 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: @Afraib_Ollej [06-Sep-22 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: That would be great! ICA...market is fine with me. Markup is fine too [06-Sep-22 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: I'm mobile so if you could send CONTD that would be preferred [06-Sep-22 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***eXploReR19882** joined.* [07-Sep-22 12:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Exanik** joined.* [07-Sep-22 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: That wasn't a great POPR, although it wasn't a complete disaster: shouldn't have impacted anyone apart from the engineers (who seem to have dipped to 173, just below the max employment rate) due to the unemployment buffers, fortunately, but it is pretty clear we still need the weekly programs active and don't have the infrastructure to support the pops otherwise. I've queued some Festivities IIs to counteract last week and we'll see how that impacts things next week. [07-Sep-22 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: I'm also considering putting another SST down, if it is cost effective to do so, but PIO happiness isn't really an issue and it doesn't look like the higher tier pops are safety capped right now. [07-Sep-22 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user44cd47a280** left.* [07-Sep-22 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dohop0** left.* [08-Sep-22 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Anyone on site have *2* BDE I could purchase off of them.... TWO?! [08-Sep-22 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Got an ad up on LM if so [08-Sep-22 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Thanks in advance! [08-Sep-22 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***templategaleria** joined.* [08-Sep-22 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OddPotato**: Can anyone spare 10 OVE, ad on LM [08-Sep-22 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OddPotato**: thanks!! 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Looks like we had some open PIO jobs beforehand, so I'm going to keep running Festivities II until we build up a decent unemployment buffer. [14-Sep-22 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lighteningbull7** joined.* [14-Sep-22 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere877aa71f9** left.* [15-Sep-22 09:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: I just put down 400 SETs, governor [15-Sep-22 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: If anyone happens to have 2 LBH on ava let me know..my math might have been off a bit.. [16-Sep-22 12:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Afraib_Ollej**: @DeniedClimax [16-Sep-22 12:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: I have 2 LBH on Avalon if you need them [16-Sep-22 09:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4d8363c1ae** left.* [16-Sep-22 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: @DeniedClimax oh you are still here! LOL [16-Sep-22 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nalini**: Looks like it. It's a shame he doesn't respond to messages.) [16-Sep-22 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Afraib_Ollej**: well someone else recently left the noob help channel, so nyeh [16-Sep-22 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: He has normally in the past. Maybe hes just busy 🤔 [18-Sep-22 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lekvarky** joined.* [18-Sep-22 03:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user44e18f5525** left.* [18-Sep-22 07:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dawid88** joined.* [18-Sep-22 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Olwe519** left.* [19-Sep-22 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***potato246** left.* [19-Sep-22 06:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Ran out of GRN :(. AD up on LM if anyone is feeling generous - will hold me over till I can ship some in. TY in advance [19-Sep-22 06:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: >CX$ [20-Sep-22 01:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wolfmet123** left.* [20-Sep-22 11:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pucha** left.* [21-Sep-22 06:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: POPR was decent. I'm going to keep running Festivities II until we get a bigger PIO buffer, though. [21-Sep-22 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***dwells9933** left.* [22-Sep-22 03:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***josephdlutowski** joined.* [22-Sep-22 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user76a031e638** left.* [22-Sep-22 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ATV2019** left.* [23-Sep-22 01:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***neoshancullman** joined.* [23-Sep-22 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Afraib_Ollej**: @SexualClimax [24-Sep-22 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***WordedWheel** left.* [24-Sep-22 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Subversus** joined.* [25-Sep-22 01:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KATOREA** joined.* [25-Sep-22 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BandusDR** left.* [25-Sep-22 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Afraib_Ollej**: I will land on PROM in ~3.5h and near immediately turn back for Avalon if anyone wants Prom=>Avalon movement - I can fill the boat a fair bit more but one have about 150m3 that is critical to move so the rest is 'open' [25-Sep-22 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Hmm [25-Sep-22 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Still avaialable? [25-Sep-22 05:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Ill send you a CONTD just in case. 137t [25-Sep-22 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: I have orders up for buying FF off any supplies here, at 10.25 per unit, each orders is 1,000 FF [25-Sep-22 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***leagion05** joined.* [26-Sep-22 02:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MissZ** joined.* [26-Sep-22 03:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MissZ** left.* [26-Sep-22 07:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dawid88** left.* [26-Sep-22 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***yellfior** joined.* [28-Sep-22 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***valdin98** joined.* [28-Sep-22 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***VizoR** joined.* [28-Sep-22 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Steff1** left.* [29-Sep-22 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Anastasia** left.* [29-Sep-22 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AyeegaJim** joined.* [30-Sep-22 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Enderend** joined.* [30-Sep-22 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ShouyuHikaru** joined.* [01-Oct-22 05:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***hsummer05** joined.* [01-Oct-22 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gordo4444** left.* [01-Oct-22 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ShouyuHikaru**: Hello! [01-Oct-22 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Hello :) [02-Oct-22 03:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: bulk buying RAT on the LM if anyone is interested? not best price you could get, but saves shipping it, only reason I'm buying is my production can't keep up with my upgraded ships right now and I want them traveling full when possible [02-Oct-22 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***A2BeatZ** joined.* [02-Oct-22 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kheiro** joined.* [02-Oct-22 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yelouzin** joined.* [03-Oct-22 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nap253** joined.* [04-Oct-22 01:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***hsummer05** left.* [04-Oct-22 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **gatoratlaw**: need ove, on the LM. Thx [05-Oct-22 02:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: another bunch of cheap buy ads up for RAT, again, not best price, just my production can't keep up with how fast I ship it out at the moment (I have a few large expenses right now) [05-Oct-22 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alethea** joined.* [05-Oct-22 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Looks like we are starting to hit our soft caps on the POPR. I'll keep running the Festivities II for a bit longer, but if we keep it up with the high unemployment I might start dropping it to Festivities I to see how that changes the equilibrium point. [06-Oct-22 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***leagion05** left.* [06-Oct-22 09:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userecab6f7f94** left.* [07-Oct-22 12:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RainWalker** joined.* [07-Oct-22 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kiporshnikov** joined.* [08-Oct-22 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mottin** joined.* [08-Oct-22 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Enderend** left.* [08-Oct-22 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OniOfAsh** left.* [08-Oct-22 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HaguWaterVapor** joined.* [10-Oct-22 02:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: another batch of cheap buy orders for RAT, again, not the best price you could get for them, but saves on shipping it yourself [10-Oct-22 07:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user494d0dade6** left.* [10-Oct-22 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BetaRoman** joined.* [10-Oct-22 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yelouzin** left.* [10-Oct-22 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OceanRider** joined.* [10-Oct-22 10:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Toktu66** joined.* [11-Oct-22 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OceanRider**: Anyone able to pick up my MCG buy order on the LM? was short on building mats [11-Oct-22 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OceanRider**: only need 40 MCG [11-Oct-22 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: got you ;) [11-Oct-22 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OceanRider**: TY so much! [11-Oct-22 06:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Necromanitarian** joined.* [13-Oct-22 06:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DokiDoki** joined.* [13-Oct-22 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***chrisgo** joined.* [13-Oct-22 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Patoriku** joined.* [14-Oct-22 04:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Viczi** joined.* [14-Oct-22 06:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Anyone have 4 LDE & 4 LSE they would sell me? [14-Oct-22 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: yeah, have 5 LDE on planet, and can fairly easily bring more in (was planning on using them myself, but ended up not needing that many of the building) [15-Oct-22 02:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RainWalker** left.* [15-Oct-22 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kiporshnikov** left.* [15-Oct-22 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Khendon_Kalmire** joined.* [16-Oct-22 02:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***dangerduck** joined.* [16-Oct-22 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Patoriku**: Hey, I see I've been added to this chat? What's the purpose of this chat? [16-Oct-22 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Did you join the planet? [16-Oct-22 09:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: You'd be automatically added if you started a base here [16-Oct-22 09:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Its planet specific chat for all playes with a base here. Game automatically does that when you start a new base [16-Oct-22 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Khendon_Kalmire**: Very importantly, I HAVE ARRIVED! [16-Oct-22 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Khendon_Kalmire**: Hello neighbors! [16-Oct-22 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Yeeee [16-Oct-22 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Welcome to the best planet [16-Oct-22 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***kerfy** joined.* [16-Oct-22 07:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kapcie** joined.* [16-Oct-22 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Freindlyneighbourhoodarab** joined.* [16-Oct-22 08:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Anyone have PE for COCG upkeep? [16-Oct-22 08:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Need like...8 [16-Oct-22 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Afraib_Ollej**: ✔ [16-Oct-22 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: *golf clap* [17-Oct-22 03:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Sorry about that: I was trying to figure out what happened, and I think I found the reason why other governors don't fill immediately after COGC upkeep triggers. [17-Oct-22 03:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Namely, because COGC upkeep is determined by the number of bases and there isn't a buffer, you end up with a situation where the COGC upkeep goes up slightly and you are no longer meeting all the requirements. [17-Oct-22 03:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: There must be some grace period before the increased upkeep applies, since otherwise someone joining a minute before the upkeep trigger would cause a strike, but I guess it doesn't cover 10 days. [17-Oct-22 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Patoriku**: @Rannepear Oh yeah, so I did. [17-Oct-22 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Well there you go - just a place for people with Avalon bases to talk about whatever they want [17-Oct-22 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: All planets have a site owner chat [18-Oct-22 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BetaRoman** left.* [18-Oct-22 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nap253**: Have a full ship open for Avalon to HRT or Prom if anyone needs anything shipped send a contract over [18-Oct-22 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OceanRider**: same - have a ship with space headed to HRT [19-Oct-22 05:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Silestrium** joined.* [19-Oct-22 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user444f7901ce** left.* [19-Oct-22 07:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Silestrium** left.* [20-Oct-22 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***koschinovs2** joined.* [20-Oct-22 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***useraf708a861b** left.* [21-Oct-22 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Toktu66**: Posted buy ads on LM for 2 LBH @2800/each | 2 LDE @5000/each | 16 MCG @5/each [21-Oct-22 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Toktu66**: just a smidge short lol [23-Oct-22 01:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***wendell09** joined.* [23-Oct-22 03:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Viczi** left.* [23-Oct-22 06:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***wendell09** left.* [23-Oct-22 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gourami_Lee** joined.* [24-Oct-22 03:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Hey there, Avalonians. [24-Oct-22 03:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Just letting you know that I've gone ahead and dropped taxes on Settlers by 5 across the board. [24-Oct-22 03:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: As part of the tax changes, I've also regularised the tax brackets (mostly because it was bugging me): anyone running Fuel Refining Technicians are now paying the standard 210 instead of 190, and anyone running Food Industry Scientists are now paying 1500 instead of 1250. [24-Oct-22 03:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Will that affect anyone? No, neither of those two categories exist, but for transparencies sake I thought it best to highlight it anyway. [24-Oct-22 03:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: In other news, we are back on Festivities II, so hopefully POPR is a little better this week, but I'll have an update for that after POPR updates (apologies for the lack of update last week). [24-Oct-22 03:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nap253**: Thank you ! [24-Oct-22 03:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: another bunch of ads for me buying RAT cheaply here to sell elsewhere, got if you don't want to whip the RAT somewhere yourself, or if you were only planning on going as far as HRT in the first place [24-Oct-22 03:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nap253**: Gotchu [24-Oct-22 10:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***deNoailles** left.* [25-Oct-22 07:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***gaea** joined.* [25-Oct-22 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kapcie** left.* [25-Oct-22 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DanteDio** joined.* [19-Jan-23 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: gonna be at avalon with 2 ships in a few hours if anything needs stuffs shipped to prom or hrt [21-Jan-23 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **stackem**: Absolute fire sale on fuel for right now [21-Jan-23 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **stackem**: sale closed [21-Jan-23 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tardisboy09** joined.* [21-Jan-23 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tardisboy09** left.* [21-Jan-23 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***danielfisher190** left.* [21-Jan-23 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***grayskies** joined.* [22-Jan-23 07:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rex.Reynolds** joined.* [22-Jan-23 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***HSgoldbox** joined.* [22-Jan-23 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bof98** left.* [23-Jan-23 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***davide.tdm** joined.* [23-Jan-23 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2eeb917c74** left.* [23-Jan-23 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hartimis** joined.* [24-Jan-23 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***musked** joined.* [25-Jan-23 04:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Decent POPR, not much to comment on it. The expanded SST should kick in next week, too. [25-Jan-23 05:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marismols**: Yes looks good! [25-Jan-23 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Atomiccow** joined.* [25-Jan-23 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***montgum** joined.* [25-Jan-23 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***riukkie** joined.* [27-Jan-23 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Constan** joined.* [27-Jan-23 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Constan** left.* [28-Jan-23 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nomadhunter** joined.* [30-Jan-23 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***grayskies** left.* [30-Jan-23 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HSgoldbox** left.* [31-Jan-23 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***davide.tdm** left.* [31-Jan-23 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hartimis** left.* [01-Feb-23 04:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Once again, POPR is looking ok. The drop in Engineers seems to be due to reduced unemployment, and otherwise everything seems fine. [02-Feb-23 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: bulk buying RAT on the LM at near HRT prices if anyone doesn't want to fly them to a CX to sell [02-Feb-23 02:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: also some ads buying FF again at near HRT prices [02-Feb-23 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marismols**: hello anybody can sell 5 TRU. needed very much. [02-Feb-23 03:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: put an ad on the LM, 310 ICA per unit and I'll fill it, I don't mind delayed payment [02-Feb-23 03:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marismols**: thanks a lot [02-Feb-23 03:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marismols**: will do now [02-Feb-23 03:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marismols**: done [02-Feb-23 03:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marismols**: tanks, you saved a day, literaly :) [02-Feb-23 03:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: hint, when asking something like that, put the ad up first, that way anyone that wants to fill it can do so instantly, if it's something you urgently, pay near the ask price of the local the local CX [02-Feb-23 03:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marismols**: ok [02-Feb-23 03:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: all good, I've forgotten things before, if it's not urgent, like my ad for bulk buying RAT earlier, price is fine, but when I need something earlier, I pay a premium to get things done quickly [02-Feb-23 03:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: eg, when setting up a base recently, I forgot to bring PSL, I paid someone the price of a full cargo hold for only 10 units of space to bring them out quickly, knowing there were return contracts for him [02-Feb-23 03:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marismols**: I see [02-Feb-23 03:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: look at it this way, you aren't so much paying for the good, as much as the speedy service [02-Feb-23 03:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marismols**: I agree [02-Feb-23 03:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: bit like paying ask price for goods on the CX, your paying more for fast service, compared to just putting a buy ad up, in this case,, it's a bit like that and asking for delivery as well [02-Feb-23 03:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: it's how I justify my expensive fast buys anyway [02-Feb-23 03:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marismols**: I'll put another ad, seems the number was wrong, needed 8 [02-Feb-23 03:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marismols**: sorry, small letters on the screen [02-Feb-23 03:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: sure, I keep plenty on the planet for repairs (I don't need nearly as many as I have stored, I just don't want to have to remember to ship more of them) [02-Feb-23 03:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marismols**: ok put it up [02-Feb-23 03:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: yeah, I need to fix that as well, my new monitor has much better resolution, and all the writing got smaller and now I wonder if I need glasses.... [02-Feb-23 03:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marismols**: feature to change font size would be nice [02-Feb-23 03:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***thadaeous** joined.* [02-Feb-23 03:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: what I'd like is the ability to alter the default size of some pre selected buffers [02-Feb-23 03:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: there are a few that I open frequently, though aren't important enough to be worth a tile (various CXM tickers) that I always have to resize [02-Feb-23 05:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: So….one thing you can try if you have a multi-monitor. Run the Steam version on a monitor with a lesser resolution and the browser version with your extensions on the main. Then use Steam to access the more difficult to read bits on the secondary with the lower res. [02-Feb-23 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Unless the browser version will allow you to drag buffers to other monitors…not sure as I haven’t tried, lol. Then you’d just need the 2 monitors. 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Enjoy your days while I begin my drudgery, lol [03-Feb-23 05:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ravick** joined.* [03-Feb-23 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: yeah, hate it when I do that [04-Feb-23 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mazer** joined.* [04-Feb-23 09:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ImpoorAF** joined.* [05-Feb-23 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***raicon** joined.* [06-Feb-23 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***YJ14** left.* [06-Feb-23 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: whoever is trying to sell water for 40/u, you can F right off. That's 2 times what it's worth [07-Feb-23 03:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: I noticed you'd recently returned, were you around during the open price manipulation of water a couple of weeks ago, if not, short of it is someone went to all 4 CXs and brought out al the water, then listed buy ads at 40 of that currency and refreshed every day so we couldn't just fill it, relisted it for 100 of said currencies, and he ended up buying of half a million units of it, they held the price that high for close to a month [07-Feb-23 03:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: annoying that they did it, impressive they succeeded for as long as they did [07-Feb-23 03:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: to be fair, it's all still listed, mostly since I doubt he can actually move that much water, and he's just storing it at the CX to save on warehouse fees [07-Feb-23 04:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thadaeous**: Do you need H2O [07-Feb-23 05:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: 45, not 40. But yes, that. [07-Feb-23 05:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thadaeous**: I just sent 2000 H2O to HOR [07-Feb-23 05:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thadaeous**: Where do you need the H2O [07-Feb-23 05:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thadaeous**: I can reroute to AVA [07-Feb-23 05:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thadaeous**: if needed [07-Feb-23 05:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Don’t know that it was needed. Mostly just sticker shock from a recently returned player at water. Honestly, until drastic threw up 40k water just the other day it was still hitting 38-40 on the CX just a few days ago. It wasn’t that long ago my 38 ICA offer got bought up on the CX. [07-Feb-23 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: high water prices drives up the prices on everything farming related, so the price of rats and dw go way up, which causes the prices of everything to go up. It's all linked [07-Feb-23 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: and no, I missed the water hijacking, but heard about it just the other day. Stupid [07-Feb-23 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: You would think that....but most of the folks engaged in mass RAT production anymore also self produce their water. So the massive price hike didn't really affect RAT prices at all. Most of us just kept on crunching RAT's and ignored the madness of the water market. [07-Feb-23 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Boucher provides =) [07-Feb-23 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: to be fair, there was a dedicated push back against it, people were listing fair prices on LMs to get around this guys outrageous buy orders on the CX, kept things running [08-Feb-23 04:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Another week, the trend continues. Nothing particularly unexpected on this POPR: still seeing increases in most but the drop off in engineers due to large unemployment numbers. [08-Feb-23 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***thadaeous** left.* [09-Feb-23 05:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mr.Asbestos** joined.* [09-Feb-23 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CyberGrass** joined.* [10-Feb-23 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZekTheMad** joined.* [11-Feb-23 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: Have a flight headed outbound to Promitor later today if anyone needs anything shipped over, have plenty of empty room! Won't surcharge, just fuel or donation towards fuel is appreciated. :D [11-Feb-23 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: 400m3/t available to be precise [12-Feb-23 07:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jmendes** joined.* [12-Feb-23 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mazer** left.* [12-Feb-23 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ImpoorAF** left.* [13-Feb-23 02:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***xflqr_** joined.* [13-Feb-23 02:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: hi! [13-Feb-23 02:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nap253**: Hello! [13-Feb-23 04:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Can i buy 1BSE and 1BBH from someone quickly? i miscalculated and i'm missing a FP lol [13-Feb-23 04:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: sure, put ads up on the LM at HRT prices, and I'll fill them if someone else doesn't see them first [13-Feb-23 05:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: okay ty [13-Feb-23 07:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: thanks :D [13-Feb-23 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dinotamer2** joined.* [13-Feb-23 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RedSkullLoTo** joined.* [14-Feb-23 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MemoryAlpha**: Emergency dw on lm. 80u buy [14-Feb-23 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Got it. Will fulfill in 5 hours [14-Feb-23 11:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Brave_Sir_Robin** joined.* [15-Feb-23 05:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: POPR is looking fairly decent. Looks like we've had a massive jump in technician usage, but most of the open jobs seem to be covered and the rest should easily be covered next week. Pioneers are starting to peak at their unemployment level, and so should stabilise. [15-Feb-23 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DiggingLake** deleted this message.* [15-Feb-23 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: (Well, maybe not massive: we had a jump, at the very least.) [15-Feb-23 05:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: I'd say someone base dropped on the planet [15-Feb-23 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: that is over 800 new tech jobs in a single week [15-Feb-23 05:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: if I had to guess, I'd say someone put down a lot of IVPs [15-Feb-23 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: though I wouldn't have thought the demand for those products would be that high [15-Feb-23 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: That’s a reasonable conclusion though [15-Feb-23 05:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: But that would be something like 11 IVPs worth [15-Feb-23 05:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: yeah, it's just, that is a lot of IVPs [15-Feb-23 05:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: my more accurate math says 12... [15-Feb-23 05:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: sorry, was working on that before and it was close enough I didn't bother to correct myself [15-Feb-23 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: It must be something else that takes techs. No one needs that many IVP's. 2 is overkill [17-Feb-23 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CyberGrass** left.* [17-Feb-23 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: WTB 250 SF, ad at LM [17-Feb-23 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alethea** left.* [18-Feb-23 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: 216 M3/T available, HRT to AVA. If you need something hauled up, let me know. Departing 20 minutes. [18-Feb-23 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Will be a rapid transit, anticipate 10 hours. [18-Feb-23 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Actually, less. Accidently calced it off prom earlier. Call it 6 hours. [18-Feb-23 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***62** joined.* [18-Feb-23 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb8e3116cae** left.* [20-Feb-23 07:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Keifer** joined.* [20-Feb-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: If anyone wants to haul some RAT's out to HRT to sell, scream now. 500/500 heading back to HRT in just a little bit. [20-Feb-23 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: I have a small package to go to Promitor, though I can drop it at HRT and move it later if you don't mind? [20-Feb-23 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Sure [20-Feb-23 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: are you able to go onto Promitor with it? [20-Feb-23 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: or just to HRT? [20-Feb-23 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Depends on how fast you need it. To HRT I can do in under 10 hours. Prom will likely add another day or 2. [20-Feb-23 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: I'll be heading into Prom, so it won't be an inconvenience, I'm just waiting on a shipment from MOR before I do [20-Feb-23 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: under 4 days, so that's fine [20-Feb-23 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: ad on the LM, it's only 16T [20-Feb-23 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: You paid in CIS, you savage =P [20-Feb-23 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: opps, my bad [20-Feb-23 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: want me to fix that? [20-Feb-23 08:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: No, these shipments are a courtesy. At this point the fees hardly qualify as a rounding error =) [20-Feb-23 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: ok, meant to pay in ICA, but clicked to fast... silly me [21-Feb-23 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jmendes** left.* [21-Feb-23 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: Anyone need anything flown from Avalon to Promitor or Station? Headed out in 1-2 hours, empty cargo bay, 500/500 [21-Feb-23 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OneTry**: CO ATOM CBC [21-Feb-23 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OneTry**: but thanks for the offer [21-Feb-23 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chrono9** joined.* [21-Feb-23 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***aspenthetree** joined.* [21-Feb-23 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dinotamer2** left.* [22-Feb-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***nomadicgamer** joined.* [22-Feb-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Not seeing much to comment on with POPR. The technicians shortage is gone, and while we might see a short Engineer shortage due to the prior weeks of high unemployment (seemingly triggered by Engineer buildings being demolished) we should see that fix itself in a couple of weeks. [22-Feb-23 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OneTry**: awesome as always. Thanks! [22-Feb-23 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: CAC but whatever, was just being nice haha. Just because I don't like to answer DMs and I spend my ICA recklessly doesn't mean i don't deliver and am reliable haha. :P [22-Feb-23 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: It was CBC when they mentioned it. I know because I looked myself as well. Congrats on getting back up to A by the way. [22-Feb-23 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: Thanks, not sure how I got down to B, probably because I did miss 1 contract delivery since joining the game. /sigh sometimes real life happens hehe. :P [22-Feb-23 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: Idk how my financial stability is so awful either, I have a relatively strong 2-planet base setup going, but meh, i do like to spend my profits on expanding my base [22-Feb-23 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: It seems to only care about the last couple periods for stability. And….well….how stable they are. I have never had a period I’m the red, but I did have a stability of C for a week or so when my listed profits went from a million one period, to 50k the next period. [22-Feb-23 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: In the red…stupid fat fingers and autocorrect, lol [22-Feb-23 09:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Ratings are pretttttyy pointless. Wouldnt worry much about it [22-Feb-23 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: for most standard uses, yes, that is true, however, dropping the total off of A is so rare that when it happens, pay attention to why, stability is the hardest to raise, and activity is hard to drop if you log it most days, reliability only drops if you fail a contract, which is a big red flag to potential partners on the LM [22-Feb-23 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: also, new players that have brought pro but haven't earned a rating yet deserve note, since the amount of lost shipments caused by them previously is note worthy enough that I never put a shipping contract at a P rating, I usually give it a C so anyone that brought pro at least a week ago can accept, but it's only to prevent people that get pro within their first week and drop the game after that accepting shipping ads, as to buy or sell ads, those can stay P rated, though if they don't fill their end when they accept, I check the company age before I do my end [23-Feb-23 07:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Sure...but go look at an LM and tell me how many require A ratings in comparison to P [23-Feb-23 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TechnoProblem** joined.* [23-Feb-23 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: true, most of those are to make them easy to see when someone puts an ad up for a particular person (this is a habit from before CONTD existed). most people use P because it doesn't matter (plus it's the default), shipping contracts are much more likely to be rated [23-Feb-23 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: I'm just pointing out reasons why the rating exists, and what it's used for [23-Feb-23 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: I mean, I use P for general merchandise shipping (anything that I'm not "really" going to give a shit about vanishing in a puff of COLIQ smoke), A for things that are important, and CONTD's for critical freight movements [24-Feb-23 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: I've gone ahead and filled the PAR a bit more, to soften the impact of Engineer unhappiness. Hopefully it doesn't yo-yo too much, but on reflection it seemed like it was a relatively cheap measure to head off any further potential drops. [24-Feb-23 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: I've also gone ahead and dropped the taxes on Settlers to 10, same as Pioneers, since I didn't see a good reason to keep it at a higher level given the consistently large surplus of Settlers Avalon seems to accrue. [24-Feb-23 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OneTry**: gj as always Thanks! [27-Feb-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: Someone put up AMM for AIC. Sorry, don't have any of that. I'll buy all the AMM you want to sell for 110 NCC/u [27-Feb-23 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: SOMEONEEEEEEEE... We arent gonna name NAMESSSSS [27-Feb-23 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: I got 1 empty ship sitting at Avalon if anyone needs anything moved to HRT or promitor. :P [27-Feb-23 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ablabla** joined.* [27-Feb-23 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***guyxz** joined.* [27-Feb-23 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: sure, 2 ads up on the LM for goods to HRT, most of a cargo hold [27-Feb-23 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: Someone else scooped em up before I got back on, so those goods must be on the way :P [27-Feb-23 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Posted enough for a ships load if you're still wanting it [27-Feb-23 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Had to find an eclectic batch of crap to make a full ship, but I did it, lol [27-Feb-23 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hannegore** joined.* [28-Feb-23 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: Haha thanks! [28-Feb-23 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Littlebeans** left.* [01-Mar-23 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: Buying 200 units of SF on LM at 15/u. Messed up........ [01-Mar-23 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: Thanks [01-Mar-23 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Np [01-Mar-23 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: Empty ship on avalon per usual, if anyone needs anything moved around to HRT or Promitor just send me a private contract and/or a DM. I'll be on/off several times today, per usual. And if you haven't noticed, I do quite a bit of trucking between Avalon and Prom and typically have 1 standing idle and empty at all times. :D [01-Mar-23 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: CO ATOM - BAA :P (i'm a sheep) [01-Mar-23 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: anyone have COF? i posted on LM [01-Mar-23 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Amazing how I went from shut down due to lack of materials to having enough here to make 8k RATs in less than 24 hours, lol [01-Mar-23 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kaler**: The highs, and lows... #Addiction [01-Mar-23 07:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PINEEAGLE** joined.* [01-Mar-23 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Not much to say about POPR. The decline in Engineers does seem to have been halted but could otherwise have been nasty, so I'm glad I dumped the inputs in, and hopefully we should see the shortfall recover. [01-Mar-23 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: All other worker types seem fine, and have at least a healthy buffer. [02-Mar-23 02:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OneTry**: Awesome job as always?!! :) Thanks! [02-Mar-23 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: Great news, thanks! [02-Mar-23 03:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LordOverlorder** left.* [02-Mar-23 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pinormous**: Thanks DL, wouldn't be the company we are today without ya [02-Mar-23 07:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: He is da best [03-Mar-23 05:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TechnoProblem** left.* [03-Mar-23 06:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cn2586** joined.* [04-Mar-23 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***macho9mm** joined.* [04-Mar-23 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: posted H2O add on LM [04-Mar-23 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pinormous**: ^gotchu [05-Mar-23 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wakuseino** joined.* [07-Mar-23 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***guyxz** left.* [07-Mar-23 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hannegore** left.* [08-Mar-23 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: How is everyone doing this week? [08-Mar-23 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Watching the servers explode [08-Mar-23 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: lol right [08-Mar-23 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: POPR looks to have been ok. Engineers should be sorted now, and while the Pioneer buffer is getting a little low it does look like the trend is heading in the right direction so we should hopefully see some growth either this week or next. I'm going to hold off queuing the next program, though, just in case I need to up it next week. [08-Mar-23 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: (I've also dropped some OFF into the SST, which hopefully will have an effect.) [09-Mar-23 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Nice! [09-Mar-23 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Does anyone have BEA? My production dief :( [09-Mar-23 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: died [09-Mar-23 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Posted on LM [09-Mar-23 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Gotcha [09-Mar-23 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Thanks! [09-Mar-23 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Lucky timing you needed it when you did. Converted over to ALG some time ago. Was getting ready to swap back to BEA to burn off the rest from my system. [09-Mar-23 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Ah that's good timing indeed haha [09-Mar-23 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kuifje** joined.* [09-Mar-23 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***clanogrady** joined.* [09-Mar-23 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PINEEAGLE** left.* [10-Mar-23 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arkhaiel** joined.* [10-Mar-23 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: It would seem my workers started crying about not having padded pants....put up a buy ad for 10 units if anyone has them spare. [10-Mar-23 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: About to send an empty ship towards promitor if anyone eneds anything moved [10-Mar-23 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: And lol @zuul my workers just started crying about not having coffee on promitor so I had to put up an ad too haha. Im so bad with coffee, i should just build a hydroponic farm i guess already... [10-Mar-23 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: I just finally became a net producer of coffee last night because of the coffee madness. Not a lot, I’m at positive 17 units a day. [10-Mar-23 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: Better then negative 17! How many hydros you have setup? [10-Mar-23 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: 9 on Prom [10-Mar-23 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: They mostly just run ALG/VEG, the CAF is kind of a side thing. Dropped a few FP's there as well to do the brewing. Avalon is already capped out on how much the FP's can process. [10-Mar-23 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: Nice i have 10 farms and 3 rigs going on prom right now. Been considering dropping a couple hydros but wasn't sure yet [10-Mar-23 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: I've got 9 HYF's, 15 FRM's, and a big fat 0 for RIG's. I pump all that up at Boucher. HYF's need so much H2O trying to pump it on Prom would just eat a huge amount of the available area. [10-Mar-23 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: Ya the water requirement is what threw me off, haven't balanced it yet without doing something like boucher [10-Mar-23 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: so got my farms on prom and fps going on avalon for rations, need to save up and get ready for #3 probably [10-Mar-23 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: The exact route I followed, if it matters to you, was add Avalon. Move all FP's off Prom to ava and add more FRM's. Then add just a couple HYF's to Prom and set them for ALG to take the protein requirement for RAT's off the FRMs. Water for just a couple isn't insurmountable pumping locally. Then went and opened Boucher and added all the additional HYF's [10-Mar-23 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tulak** joined.* [10-Mar-23 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: I have all my FPs on ava already :P [10-Mar-23 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: But I do appreciate it all, now I have a plan :D [10-Mar-23 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***robertson_aaron** left.* [10-Mar-23 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: Alrighty, empty ship is taking off now :P [11-Mar-23 07:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kuifje** left.* [11-Mar-23 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***hafnil** joined.* [11-Mar-23 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***hafnil** left.* [11-Mar-23 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rento247** joined.* [11-Mar-23 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: Hey hey everyone ^_^ [11-Mar-23 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Hi! [11-Mar-23 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: right at bat familiar faces :3 [11-Mar-23 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: but yeee, so [11-Mar-23 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: could anyone bother to gib some RAT and DW xD [11-Mar-23 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: ad's at LM ^_^' [11-Mar-23 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: out of all the consumables, I forgot The basic ones this time xP [11-Mar-23 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: really out done myself [11-Mar-23 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Ofc :) [11-Mar-23 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: big cheers ^_^ [11-Mar-23 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: I don't have that problem because i'm making those myself haha [11-Mar-23 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: so am I from now on :3 [11-Mar-23 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: just needed bit of push, my workers efficency were at 11% :D [11-Mar-23 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Wow yeah thats not so good xD [11-Mar-23 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: would've taken 3 day to make first RAT T_T [11-Mar-23 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Are they working on pure coffee then? Haha [11-Mar-23 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: pretty much :D [11-Mar-23 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cn2586** left.* [12-Mar-23 01:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***KHBahamut** joined.* [12-Mar-23 04:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: posted a bunchy of cheap buy ads up for RAT, again, these are for people that can't be bothered moving them to the CX to sell, and as such aren't the most profitable [12-Mar-23 05:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Don't mind if i do :) [12-Mar-23 06:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marismols**: Hi, could somebody sell 140 MCG? [12-Mar-23 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: sur~ [12-Mar-23 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marismols**: thanks, put on LM [12-Mar-23 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: np~ ^_^ [12-Mar-23 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marismols**: great, you saved me two days :) [12-Mar-23 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: cheers :) [12-Mar-23 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***macho9mm** left.* [14-Mar-23 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gasgano** joined.* [14-Mar-23 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marismols**: Hi, need help with one BBH. Ad on LM. [15-Mar-23 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Klugen**: Can anyone please sell 20 DW on LM? Moved a bit too much to the ship cargo. Can't create an ad with basic license but can accept your selling ad [15-Mar-23 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Stuck an ad up. [15-Mar-23 09:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Klugen** deleted this message.* [15-Mar-23 09:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Klugen**: Thanks! [15-Mar-23 09:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: As far as POPR, looks like we had a slight shortage of PIOs due to new bases but all of those should be filled now. I'd already started Festivities III after being informed of a base going down, so hopefully we should see buffers build up a bit in the next POPR, but I don't think I'll need to run it twice. [15-Mar-23 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: Thanks, Yes I was short 300 PIOs :) [15-Mar-23 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: Anyone have 20 BBH & 16 BDE they want to sell? :P [16-Mar-23 06:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: I miscalculated and i need 3 bse, posted ad on LM [16-Mar-23 06:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: gotcha [16-Mar-23 06:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Ty! [17-Mar-23 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Huh i'm short on pioneers [17-Mar-23 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: I've never had that before haha [17-Mar-23 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Maybe i should not have made 6FP in 10seconds [17-Mar-23 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: ye that really depends on the planets POPR :) [17-Mar-23 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: on which there already is 328 open jobs since last report :D [17-Mar-23 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Oops didn't think of checking that [17-Mar-23 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Well i'm only short on 36 pioneers so its not so bad [17-Mar-23 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Open jobs were prior to the last report: with the 2771 change, all empty jobs were filled. [17-Mar-23 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: ye it should be fixed within next report, which is in 5 days [17-Mar-23 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: well yee true : P [17-Mar-23 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: if want to go all technical about it xP [17-Mar-23 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Oh i thought open jobs meant after the Change [17-Mar-23 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: nah [17-Mar-23 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Nope, its part of the calculation. [17-Mar-23 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: (That is why it shows you it.) [17-Mar-23 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Ahh i see [17-Mar-23 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: almost everyone make's mistake on that first time looking at POPR though I recon ^_^' [17-Mar-23 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: kinda intuitive think so, as unemployment/open jobs are at the bottom of the report [17-Mar-23 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Yeah, its a very common mistake. [17-Mar-23 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Yeah and i think it would also make more sense to know how many jobs are not filled yet [17-Mar-23 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: in the present [17-Mar-23 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: yeeh ^_^' [17-Mar-23 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: When you lay a production building down it DOES show you how much of that population need can be filled from the reserve pool [17-Mar-23 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: The number in parenthesis [17-Mar-23 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: ye at the 'view base' section [17-Mar-23 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: During construction, I mean. [17-Mar-23 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Shows you what is required and the total amount in the pool that will be avaiable to immediately fill your line [17-Mar-23 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: oh lol, never actually looked at there ^_^' [17-Mar-23 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: it was about time I learn something new again [17-Mar-23 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: *slap* [17-Mar-23 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: ;_; [17-Mar-23 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: *double slap* [17-Mar-23 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: /_\ [17-Mar-23 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Oh i didn't know that, thanks! [17-Mar-23 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Yeah its at 0 now hah [17-Mar-23 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: I'm going to HRT and i have 412t/457m³ available, so send me something if you need shipping (free) [17-Mar-23 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: I'm gonna shower now, the ship will leave in 1h [17-Mar-23 10:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OneTry**: anything more specific about your hygiene? [18-Mar-23 01:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Lol sorry [18-Mar-23 07:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OneTry**: :) [19-Mar-23 01:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RDJ2022** joined.* [20-Mar-23 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OneTry**: EMERGENCY need OVE. Paying ASK price+30%. LM ads posted - pls take only one ad. Thank you. [20-Mar-23 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: anyone have some extra BEA? posted on lm [20-Mar-23 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OneTry**: I dont see any BEA LM ad on Avalon [20-Mar-23 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OneTry**: Done, saved my space entrepreneur ass @bazdakka :) [20-Mar-23 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: I'm still confused, why you wanted peeps only take one ad? :P [20-Mar-23 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OneTry**: you can take another [20-Mar-23 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: but why it matters! >_< [20-Mar-23 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: tell me your secrets! [20-Mar-23 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OneTry**: just in case someone botches 1 ad is better than all ads ... [20-Mar-23 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: huh [20-Mar-23 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OneTry**: and i was going offline so couldnt communicate and so [20-Mar-23 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: fair enough [20-Mar-23 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OneTry**: I mean bad guy could still do it on purpose, but ... [20-Mar-23 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OneTry**: and thank you ;) [20-Mar-23 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: np~ [21-Mar-23 03:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***kheiro** left.* [31-Mar-23 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: Mines very simple, all farms, BEA, NUT, MAI [31-Mar-23 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: send it to avalon and rats :P [31-Mar-23 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: oh and 3 rigs to manage all the water i need [31-Mar-23 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***n0stalg1a** joined.* [01-Apr-23 12:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: 3 rigs wouldn't even make a dent in my water needs! LOL! [01-Apr-23 12:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: and both Prom and Avalon are 1000 space bases. I can pump out a tremendous amount of food [01-Apr-23 12:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: Wish the ORC didn't take up so much space, but need those grapes and hops! [01-Apr-23 12:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: I'm still on one permit for Avalon. It's taken right to capacity, but just the one. [01-Apr-23 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***virtualforg** left.* [01-Apr-23 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ClayTaeto** joined.* [01-Apr-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrJarviss** joined.* [02-Apr-23 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vile_Adventurer**: somebody with fuel on Avalon? [02-Apr-23 12:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: ye I has fuel [02-Apr-23 12:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: though you're the one who was calling me tyrant in global chat :3 [02-Apr-23 12:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: so never mind >:3 [02-Apr-23 12:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vile_Adventurer**: No no, that would never be me! [02-Apr-23 12:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vile_Adventurer**: I wouldnt dare ^^ [02-Apr-23 12:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: haha, fair enough ^_^ [02-Apr-23 12:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vile_Adventurer**: contract is up :_ [02-Apr-23 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vile_Adventurer**: I`m out of ICA atm sadly [02-Apr-23 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: no worries, NCC works just as well [02-Apr-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vile_Adventurer**: best governor ever! [02-Apr-23 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: ikr! >:3 [02-Apr-23 12:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vile_Adventurer**: I'd never say otherwise [02-Apr-23 12:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: ^_^ [03-Apr-23 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LethalRose** joined.* [03-Apr-23 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I also always have stupid amounts of fuel here and on Prom [03-Apr-23 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***smenespionage** left.* [04-Apr-23 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***musked** left.* [04-Apr-23 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Plantasia** joined.* [04-Apr-23 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Simaios** joined.* [05-Apr-23 02:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: I'm bulk buying RAT on the LM, not a very good price, if you can, you should really ship it to the CX and sell it yourself, worth so much more right now, these ads are for those that really don't want to go to that much effort [05-Apr-23 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***P.F** left.* [05-Apr-23 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I saw you were looking for FOD, so I made some. If you are in need, post some ads. I currently have 624 [05-Apr-23 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Don't think that was Bazdakka, rather one of the governors. Rannepear maybe? Can't recall off the top of my head. [05-Apr-23 11:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: yeah, didn't think it was baz, just throwing it out there [06-Apr-23 12:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vile_Adventurer**: is there anybody with some TS and HE3 on hand ? [06-Apr-23 12:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vile_Adventurer**: I`m starting up some REF`s for personal use, but could use some of the inputs to kickstart the process :) [06-Apr-23 03:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: I recommend not using TS, you can mine HE3 directly and it's much cheaper to do, TS was used early universe used when HE3 was inaccessible due to no one being able to make it yet [06-Apr-23 03:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: that is because all HE3 deposits are on gas giants that require AEF to settle, and gas giants usually have some other problem with settling them as well [06-Apr-23 03:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: VH-043e if you want one close by [06-Apr-23 03:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: For HE3 [06-Apr-23 04:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vile_Adventurer**: The thing is though that I use REF for personal use only, so mining it locally seemed like a good idea [06-Apr-23 04:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: fair, just pointing out that TS is the least effective way to use it, your almost better buying the HE3 in than mining TS and turning it into HE3 [06-Apr-23 05:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: DiggingLake (Avalon gov) had some buys for FOD on LM. They could have just expired so he may def still want [06-Apr-23 05:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: @Talmar is the FOD HERE or on HP? [06-Apr-23 05:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: The stupid thing is that TS wasn't available early universe: by the time TS was added here, the first HE3 gas giant (Hermes) had already been tapped. [06-Apr-23 05:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Its an early game bootstrap material that wasn't available early game. [06-Apr-23 06:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mr.Asbestos**: oh hey, I actually have a related question: so INS is stupidly expensive to make but more importantly requires Ar... which is only ever present on planets where you already need INS to settle (except OS-099c but it has laughable concentrations of it, and is super far away) - so how was that bootstrapped? [06-Apr-23 06:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: there were probably planets that had very small deposits of AR which did not need INS [06-Apr-23 06:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mr.Asbestos**: not according to yapt [06-Apr-23 06:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mr.Asbestos**: or do you mean "were", not "are"? [06-Apr-23 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: There ARE planets with AR that dont require INS [06-Apr-23 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: VH-192c is very close to here for example [06-Apr-23 06:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mr.Asbestos**: hm, alright, I guess my brain is already trained to skip the planets requiring anything high-tier to build, like HSE :) [06-Apr-23 06:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Mr.Asbestos**: thanks [06-Apr-23 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: There is OS-099c which only needs MCG but is very far [06-Apr-23 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Though Im not sure where the original AR came from [06-Apr-23 06:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: probably one of those boot strap planets, which would suck for the person doing it, it wasn't until about a year ago that we could fully demolish a base, you could remove all the buildings, but the core module still existed... [06-Apr-23 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vile_Adventurer**: well, the question still remains, is there anybody with HE3? [06-Apr-23 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: It was done via throwaway accounts. I believe one was called something like Argon Pirates, according to rain. [06-Apr-23 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Sure, they only want one left nut for it. HE3 asking price is absolutely obnoxious as of late. [06-Apr-23 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Eh, considering INS prices that isn't awful. Things in general have just gotten more expensive. [06-Apr-23 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: But if you want to get your own supply, VH-043e is just next door and is a pretty decent HE3 source. [06-Apr-23 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Honestly, you’re better off buying FF and making your own SF. [06-Apr-23 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Since this is a personal use scenario, and FF manufacturing with the turd margins from buying HE3 only makes sense if you’re selling mass quantities. [06-Apr-23 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: That or just digging up TS and refining it into HE3 if you don’t need the space for anything else. Since I “do” happen to know your situation and do know you can’t use 500 area of FP’s anyhow yet, lol [06-Apr-23 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: all the FOD is here, on Avalon [06-Apr-23 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: and if you want some AR, let me know, I have a good amount on Montem, and more on XG-452f [07-Apr-23 12:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RedSkullLoTo** left.* [08-Apr-23 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3785dce92c** left.* [09-Apr-23 05:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Exanik** left.* [10-Apr-23 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***pitsch.guilherme** joined.* [10-Apr-23 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Suskueve** joined.* [10-Apr-23 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arkhaiel** deleted this message.* [10-Apr-23 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arkhaiel** deleted this message.* [10-Apr-23 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***useracd70a1b86** left.* [10-Apr-23 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkhaiel**: hello again, I need some quick cash to finish buying prefabs for my new base, does anyone want to buy 500 RAT on Avalon now ? [10-Apr-23 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: there are already buy orders at the LM, whats wrong with them? [10-Apr-23 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkhaiel**: nothing, I accepted one contract but the user is not connected [10-Apr-23 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkhaiel**: I wish I can buy mats and send my ship before going to sleep ^^ [10-Apr-23 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: i will pay 45k ok? [10-Apr-23 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: ad at LM [10-Apr-23 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkhaiel**: enjoy your cheap RATs ! [10-Apr-23 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: i produce them by my own, just to help you with speedy money... [10-Apr-23 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkhaiel**: thanks for your help mate [10-Apr-23 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***gwydion75** left.* [11-Apr-23 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrMoff** joined.* [11-Apr-23 07:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ACreator** joined.* [12-Apr-23 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Still seeing population slowly fall off from the bumper quantity when Festivities III ran. We should see another jump upwards, at which point I'm going to continue managing the decline. [12-Apr-23 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OneTry**: all good, thanks for your hard work <3 [12-Apr-23 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkhaiel**: I have one ship flying to Boucher in few hours with an empty 500t cargo [12-Apr-23 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkhaiel**: does anyone need a ride ? [12-Apr-23 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: How about you bring me back some water? [12-Apr-23 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: He's full up on the return trip =P [12-Apr-23 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: I wonder who filled it up ;) [12-Apr-23 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Dunno. Not me. I asked to fill it up...it was already filled, lol [12-Apr-23 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Nm, I know. Hedonistic Imperative did it. Their fault. [12-Apr-23 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkhaiel**: haha don't fight guys, everyone will eventually fill me up [12-Apr-23 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkhaiel**: just wait for your turn [12-Apr-23 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: ;) [12-Apr-23 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: ....well, that took a dark turn. [12-Apr-23 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: LOL! that did not occur to me at all until you said it this way [12-Apr-23 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Thanks :| [12-Apr-23 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkhaiel**: lmao [13-Apr-23 04:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cryptkickers** left.* [13-Apr-23 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mr.QuakeQuack** joined.* [15-Apr-23 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***b3dtime** left.* [16-Apr-23 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user87e9eeda63** left.* [17-Apr-23 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***unbind** left.* [17-Apr-23 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GodMagician** joined.* [17-Apr-23 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Raudgrani** joined.* [18-Apr-23 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vile_Adventurer**: anybody happens to have some TS on hand? Need about 10 :) [19-Apr-23 12:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***aspenthetree** left.* [19-Apr-23 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pitsch.guilherme** left.* [19-Apr-23 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HurtReynolds** left.* [19-Apr-23 09:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nomadicgamer** left.* [20-Apr-23 12:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Marty82** joined.* [20-Apr-23 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jackanory** joined.* [20-Apr-23 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CassiusStorm** joined.* [21-Apr-23 05:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Suskueve**: i have a ship with 374t/440m3 free space going to promitor soon. anyone have anything to ship? [21-Apr-23 05:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Still there? [21-Apr-23 06:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Suskueve**: yep [21-Apr-23 06:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Suskueve**: ill say if i start flying but rn im waiting for eighter someone else to have something to ship or more of my rations to be ready. but thatll be tomorrow and ill probably have my second ship here aswell :P [21-Apr-23 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: can anyone sell me 10 RAT, I just started a base and forgot to bring some [21-Apr-23 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vile_Adventurer**: Send me a cont :) [21-Apr-23 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: Someone else helped me out, thanks though! Appreciate it [21-Apr-23 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shorewahtevs** joined.* [21-Apr-23 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mr.QuakeQuack** left.* [23-Apr-23 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Does anyone have some DW? Posted on Lm [23-Apr-23 03:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Thank you! [23-Apr-23 03:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: np [23-Apr-23 04:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: we all have excess food on here. Post it and someone will fill it [23-Apr-23 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HojoAugusta** joined.* [24-Apr-23 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marismols**: Can somebody help with DW or H2O. Ads up on LM. [24-Apr-23 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: DW for 10/u? really? [24-Apr-23 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: yeah thats cheap [24-Apr-23 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: lmao [24-Apr-23 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CoreDynamics** joined.* [24-Apr-23 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: lol... [24-Apr-23 10:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CoreDynamics** left.* [25-Apr-23 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I don't mind helping someone out, and selling a bit below the market value, but.... [25-Apr-23 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***PappleJuiced** joined.* [25-Apr-23 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: Empty ship in Avalon headed to HRT or Prom in 4-6 hours, let me know if you need anything shipped [25-Apr-23 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Cargo posted for HRT [26-Apr-23 02:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: posted some DW orders on LM [26-Apr-23 03:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: My bad, misclick [26-Apr-23 03:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: fixed it [26-Apr-23 03:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: for sure, i wish i had the inv to supply it [26-Apr-23 04:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: thats like 11 per unit [26-Apr-23 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: 2 ships sitting idle in dock if anyone has shipping needs [27-Apr-23 03:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: POPR this week wasn't too bad. We should be seeing a slow decline from the Festivities III high, so I'll mostly be managing that in the near term to make sure it isn't too steep. [27-Apr-23 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **clanogrady**: Thanks for taking a risk, Risky Business [28-Apr-23 11:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ChanceRisker**: what did i do? [29-Apr-23 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ChanceRisker**: oh your RAT conts, got it. it was a good price, hard to pass up [30-Apr-23 02:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***tregcontrol7** joined.* [30-Apr-23 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Disarray** joined.* [30-Apr-23 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wallynova** left.* [01-May-23 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fermentahyde** joined.* [01-May-23 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HojoAugusta** left.* [01-May-23 09:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nap253**: posted a buy for PWO if anyone can help me I messed up lol [01-May-23 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: sent [01-May-23 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nap253**: Thank You! [04-May-23 03:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8e7fef77fd** left.* [04-May-23 04:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BLAU95** joined.* [04-May-23 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Proutmouth** joined.* [05-May-23 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rjbob** left.* [05-May-23 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Greenmonkey** joined.* [05-May-23 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***locnar33** left.* [05-May-23 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***locnar33** joined.* [06-May-23 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Anyone have some VEG? posted LM [06-May-23 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: made a miscalculation and now all my FP are dead :( [06-May-23 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Thanks Zuul! :D [06-May-23 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: I may have had 1300 or so lying around =) [06-May-23 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: And another 600 on prom....time for more shipping contracts, lol [06-May-23 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: haha, i'll take some with me when my emergency shipment comes by lol [06-May-23 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I usually have a fair supply as well. 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[09-May-23 06:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Fermentahyde** left.* [10-May-23 01:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***VoidWolf** left.* [10-May-23 04:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Posted another buy for VEG:) [10-May-23 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: put up some bulk buying RAT ads on the LM, not best price, but good for those that don't want to ship them to the CX to sell, but you'd be better sending them to a more distant CX [10-May-23 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Suskueve**: Does anyone need shipping from here to HRT? i got like 900t/900m3 free [10-May-23 07:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vile_Adventurer**: I could do with some shipping [10-May-23 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CassiusStorm**: Anyone selling NAB for reasonable price? [10-May-23 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CassiusStorm**: ha, that was to easy... thx mate [10-May-23 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Anyone got some VEG? :( [10-May-23 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: for sur~ [10-May-23 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: np ^_^ [10-May-23 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***locnar33** left.* [10-May-23 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cognoscentus** left.* [11-May-23 02:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: if anyone needs shipping from here to HRT or Promitor, put an ad up, I have a new stl only ship running cargo from Promitor to here, and it's usually empty or nearly empty on the way back, usually makes a round trip each day [11-May-23 02:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Not much to comment on POPR. It is continuing to go down, as expected. [11-May-23 02:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Engineers is declining a bit faster than I'd like, but hopefully raising the Comfort will help arrest that fall. [11-May-23 03:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vile_Adventurer**: @bazdakka, thats great to know! I have some cargo going back to Prom every now and then! Will keep it in mind :) [12-May-23 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Suskueve**: I have a ship going to hrt in about 45mins. 250t/350m3 open [15-May-23 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jpurrenhage** joined.* [16-May-23 02:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JackStarMaker** joined.* [16-May-23 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vile_Adventurer**: some contracts on HRT LM that would be great if those were filled soon(ish) [16-May-23 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WinstonWater** left.* [16-May-23 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***c0** left.* [17-May-23 05:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: ok, how many people base dropped this last week to do that to the pop report? lol [17-May-23 07:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Do what to the POPR? [17-May-23 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Probably referring to the pioneer shortage. [17-May-23 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: They are low but not in deficit.. But I see now [17-May-23 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Definitely need to bump up the program for more happiness, or meet more needs, or the education out will give us a pioneer shortage again. [17-May-23 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Edu out will be a bit north of 1k, and we only have 500 spare laying around. Without the open jobs the happiness will be under 70% with the status quo so no immigration to offset the edu out. [17-May-23 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Think Digging will manage it just fine as he has for the past however many months :D [17-May-23 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: yeah, I was just making a joke about the sudden increase in bases that must have happened to make a small shortage, since population increased this week, but we now have open jobs [18-May-23 07:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: Ive been tricked many times by the report but there are actually no open jobs ATM. The pop report shows open jobs BEFORE migration in. So the jobs were covered by incoming PIOs (prior to the report there were not enough PIOs at least per the last minute before the new POPR) [18-May-23 07:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: If you go attempt to build a building, youll see there are still workers in the buffer (not many but never the less)... [18-May-23 07:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: There are 524 unemployed workers (at least at the moment the POPR dropped) [18-May-23 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Yeah, no, I was just referring to the fact that the education out will be more than our buffer of unemployed workers next POPR “resulting in” a worker shortage next week. Since the only reason we saw immigration in this week was the open jobs we had last week giving happiness a little upwards tickle. As you said earlier though, I’m sure digginglake has it under control. It’s not like they’ve never flipped on festivities 3 before to do a short boost. [18-May-23 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Although I see you were responding to Bazdaka =) [18-May-23 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rannepear**: :D [20-May-23 05:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userfe1cd47c34** left.* [20-May-23 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nocte** joined.* [20-May-23 07:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userfabb0a05b8** left.* [20-May-23 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***M4RC0_P0L0** joined.* [20-May-23 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M4RC0_P0L0**: I'm new and sort of have a roadmap of how to go about things [20-May-23 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M4RC0_P0L0**: any tips or things i should worry about early on? [20-May-23 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Wait...it let you "start" on Avalon? [20-May-23 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: What did you start here as? [20-May-23 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M4RC0_P0L0**: metallurgy [20-May-23 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M4RC0_P0L0**: tbh the plan was to see whats healthy in the market and COLIQ into that [20-May-23 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: So, metallurgy in Hortus (Hortus is this system) is a big fat no. [20-May-23 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M4RC0_P0L0**: but yeah your concern concerns me what did i do or not do [20-May-23 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Promitor is the main planet in the system, it's a breadbasket world. LOTS of agriculture output, very fertile, relatively abundant water. [20-May-23 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: So it's good for victualers and carbon farmers. [20-May-23 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Avalon is a more or less worthless rock, outside of having no environmental conditions outside the green, that was colonized to process all the agriculture goods coming off of promitor into food. [20-May-23 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: So Prom is agriculture, Avalon is Food Industries. [20-May-23 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M4RC0_P0L0**: i mindlessly clicked through, would the market data i can get here be irrelevant? [20-May-23 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M4RC0_P0L0**: from the nearby CX i mean [20-May-23 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Less irrelevant, and more....it's going to be almost impossible to do metallurgy "at all" on this planet. Literally everything will need to be imported and exported. [20-May-23 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M4RC0_P0L0**: that's fine [20-May-23 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M4RC0_P0L0**: i'm not dead set on anything, i just needed a way to see whats healthy in the market [20-May-23 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M4RC0_P0L0**: then reset to producing that [20-May-23 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M4RC0_P0L0**: ...unless the decisions i've made are permanent...?! which they aren't... right? [20-May-23 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Nope, you can explode everything and start over. [20-May-23 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M4RC0_P0L0**: so my strategy isn't top down retarded and i'm safe?? [20-May-23 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: You're just not going to learn a lot of market data here, because Hortus is so NOT a metallurgy system. Even the materials you'll need to import aren't particularly abundant or cheap here like they'd be in areas more focused around metallurgy. [20-May-23 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M4RC0_P0L0**: no it's not that i wanna do anything in particular [20-May-23 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M4RC0_P0L0**: i just needed data to know what to reroll into [20-May-23 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M4RC0_P0L0**: didn't wanna pick anything without anything to go off [20-May-23 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: I mean, do you have something you'd "like" to do? Almost anything can work, it's just where do you start as that thing [20-May-23 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M4RC0_P0L0**: after VERY surface level research it seems Foods the way to go [20-May-23 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M4RC0_P0L0**: then try my hand at manufacture once i know what i'm doing [20-May-23 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: There are other things with potentially better returns, but RAT's (food) are decently profitable, and VERY reliable. [20-May-23 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: They're directly consumed by the first 3 (of 5) tiers of workers, and the food that the last 2 need include RAT's in their manufacture. [20-May-23 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M4RC0_P0L0**: the flavoured meal stuff? [20-May-23 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: RAT here being the 3 letter code for ration. Type MAT RAT into a buffer to see what I mean. FIM and MEA are the foods for engineers (ENG) and scientists (SCI), and they use RAT's in their production chain. [20-May-23 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M4RC0_P0L0**: ah i see [20-May-23 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M4RC0_P0L0**: is there a way to check price history of goods in CX? [20-May-23 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Yes...but I'm never sure what is PRO only and what is free. [20-May-23 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Click chart on the right of the entry for the material on the CX [20-May-23 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Alternatively CXPC (which is CX price chart) followed by the item code and the CX code separated by a period. [20-May-23 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: So CXPC RAT.IC1 for RAT's at Hortus [20-May-23 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M4RC0_P0L0**: yeah ik i can see that, but a graph instead? [20-May-23 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M4RC0_P0L0**: it was more of an aesthetic thing, this info'll obv do [20-May-23 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Graph instead? Clarify what you're looking for? [20-May-23 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M4RC0_P0L0**: so like a graph of a mat's price history for example [20-May-23 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: It is a graph of the history? [20-May-23 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: At least back as far as half a year, after 180d it doesn't track [20-May-23 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Do you know how to read one of those charts? [20-May-23 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M4RC0_P0L0**: so this might be PRO only thing, cuz i only see blocks of info that basically show the ATH, the PA and ATL, also volume and other things [20-May-23 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Type CXPC RAT.IC1 into a buffer and tell me what you get [20-May-23 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M4RC0_P0L0**: thank you [20-May-23 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Because it sounds like you're looking at CXP [20-May-23 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M4RC0_P0L0**: ^ YUP [20-May-23 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M4RC0_P0L0**: Thank you for humouring my attempts at understanding this game [20-May-23 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **M4RC0_P0L0**: i shall now COLIQ and go into food and cry [20-May-23 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Lol, remember, Promitor to start. Alternatively possibly Verdant in NC space, but I'd recomend Prom. 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And the reason 600 others are doing it is because people keep wanting food for some strange reason. go figure [22-May-23 01:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Suskueve**: is it possible to expand production too fast so you dont get all the workers u need? i have all the habitation i need and all consumables that they need but im missing like a third of the workers i should have T^T [22-May-23 01:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: Yeah, I think if the planet doesn't have enough population to handle the jobs you just produced, then you're gna have some open jobs [22-May-23 01:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Suskueve**: welp i guess there isnt much i can do about that then [22-May-23 01:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: new workers will be distributed (or taken away) when weekly population report kicks in, next one coming in 2 days [22-May-23 01:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: if Happiness is above 70% at the time of report, Pioneers population will grow [22-May-23 02:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bazdakka** deleted this message.* [22-May-23 02:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: opps, wrong planet [22-May-23 02:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: so, when your building a new building, and you see the number in brackets next to how many workers the building needs, that is how many you can pull out of the worker reserve pool that week, if you can't pull more workers, then during the population report, any remaining workers will be distributed out, this is to prevent someone looking at a report, but not knowing that one person has dropped an entire bases worth of workers that week, preventing others from getting any, it's still possible 10 people did that, but the risk is reduced [22-May-23 06:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Not really much to add beyond what has already been said. Fortunately pioneers tend to be fairly responsive to open jobs, so hopefully if you are looking to get pioneers you should get them all in 2 days (although I'm still planning on scheduling a Festivities 3 and upgrade the SST a bit, since demand for Pioneers is increasing and I'd like a bigger buffer so we don't run into these issues). [24-May-23 02:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb582b3d722** left.* [24-May-23 03:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Asteio** joined.* [24-May-23 05:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: POPR looks decent. Everyone should have their Pioneers now, and nothing is in decline. I'm still going to upgrade the SST a bit more, since I think it is necessary, and unless anyone feels particularly strongly against it I'm going to queue Festivities 3 up after the current program. [24-May-23 05:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: looks decent? 1086 open jobs for pio? I have my workers so far, but other won´t [24-May-23 06:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: The "open jobs" is without the added population [24-May-23 06:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: So current PIO unemployment is -1086 + 4102 [24-May-23 06:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: So there's more PIO than needed currently [24-May-23 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: At least, i think that's how it works [24-May-23 06:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Yes, that's right. Another way to tell is to open the base construction menu. It shows (301) available PIOs for me. [24-May-23 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: ok, thanx for this informations ;) [24-May-23 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Qirono** joined.* [25-May-23 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RDJ2022** left.* [25-May-23 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DadBpd** joined.* [26-May-23 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Greed_McTavish** joined.* [27-May-23 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Heliotrope** left.* [27-May-23 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lonestar101x** joined.* [28-May-23 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tyler.johnson9** left.* [29-May-23 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kalinda**: Ad posted for some OVE [30-May-23 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nap253**: in [30-May-23 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nap253**: in LM * [30-May-23 12:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nap253**: TY [30-May-23 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MysteriousWalrus** joined.* [31-May-23 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userca61baa1e4** left.* [31-May-23 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Have empty 500t ship headed from Avalon to HRT. Anyone need anything shipped? [31-May-23 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Leaving sometime when I next have a break [31-May-23 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere10c35ba4d** left.* [31-May-23 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***polcross** joined.* [01-Jun-23 04:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: Shipping ad on HRT to here if anyone is interested, for decent price imo [01-Jun-23 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I gotcha :] [03-Jun-23 05:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: 900t/m3 available heading towards HRt later today, post ads if you want cheap shipping [03-Jun-23 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***themobiletuberYT** joined.* [03-Jun-23 07:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***C.E.O_OF_SLAVERY** joined.* [04-Jun-23 01:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nap253** left.* [04-Jun-23 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Skyink** joined.* [04-Jun-23 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kislovod** joined.* [04-Jun-23 11:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LethalRose**: buying DW @ 200 each on LM. [05-Jun-23 03:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: small shipment 86/100 from HRT to Avalon, 4000 ICA, ad at LM´s HRT and Avalon ;) [06-Jun-23 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***herbloros** joined.* [07-Jun-23 04:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***polcross** left.* [07-Jun-23 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pleinair** left.* [07-Jun-23 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkhaiel**: I just put some fresh COF for sale at market price in the Avalon LM ! [07-Jun-23 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkhaiel**: (well, actually cheaper than market price since it's the requests price) [08-Jun-23 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ranged** left.* [09-Jun-23 02:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***la_hoghead** joined.* [11-Jun-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***szedalt** joined.* [11-Jun-23 03:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OCT3000** joined.* [11-Jun-23 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***C.E.O_OF_SLAVERY** left.* [11-Jun-23 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MADDOG9100** joined.* [12-Jun-23 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gourami_Lee** left.* [12-Jun-23 10:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JoeLaw** joined.* [13-Jun-23 06:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rannepear** left.* [13-Jun-23 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MemoryAlpha**: 5x1000 rat buys up 105u [13-Jun-23 09:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Appreciated, @MemoryAlpha! 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[19-Jun-23 03:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OCT3000** left.* [20-Jun-23 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I have tons of fuel, so if you put up an ad, I'll fill it. Also have tons of fuel on Prom [20-Jun-23 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ArivaldH** left.* [22-Jun-23 04:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Clint** left.* [23-Jun-23 03:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nyuu** joined.* [23-Jun-23 03:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: Nyuuuuuuuu >:3 [23-Jun-23 03:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: crap, i forgot the construction materals to build me the first buildings q.q [23-Jun-23 04:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: put an ad on the LM, I usually keep some on the planet for repairs in case I forget to ship them [23-Jun-23 04:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: sent my ship [23-Jun-23 04:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: I got 113 MCG, 7 BBH, 2 BDE and 6 BSE to spare [23-Jun-23 04:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: no, not enough [23-Jun-23 04:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: i need to build 5 FP and 2 cellblocks [23-Jun-23 04:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: eh living quarters [23-Jun-23 04:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: but bazdakka will have more to add to it : P [23-Jun-23 04:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: but you do as you will ofc~ [23-Jun-23 04:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: just wanted to be help, that's all ;_; [23-Jun-23 04:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: i mean [23-Jun-23 04:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: yes, totally mean [23-Jun-23 04:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: D: [23-Jun-23 04:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: DID YOU JUST [23-Jun-23 04:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: >:3 [23-Jun-23 04:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: xDxD [23-Jun-23 04:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: ^_^ [23-Jun-23 04:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: I have 1k MCG that I can spare [23-Jun-23 04:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: MCG = MachineGun! [23-Jun-23 04:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: brrrrrrrrrrrrt [23-Jun-23 04:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: i bought all stuff already on HRT and my ship will be there shortly [23-Jun-23 04:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: the 200 pioneers will be exhausted for a while [23-Jun-23 04:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Ahhhhhhhhhh! [23-Jun-23 04:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: >:3 [23-Jun-23 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: It's scary seeing Nyuu here [23-Jun-23 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Scary, horrifying [23-Jun-23 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: >:3 [23-Jun-23 12:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Nyuu, you should sell me all your fluffy white goodness so I can continue making pants cheaper. The march of progress for cheap socialist pants! Or some such. [23-Jun-23 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: I mean [23-Jun-23 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: if you want i can sell? 35 RCO in the local market [23-Jun-23 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: i did not start full scale production yet [23-Jun-23 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Yield all your stock to Zuul for he will bring progress :} [23-Jun-23 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: I mean, if you actually want to sell it to me, just contract it direct, save yourself the listing costs. [23-Jun-23 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: ye too late, saw that i already shipped the stuff to HRT [24-Jun-23 01:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Anxuiz** joined.* [24-Jun-23 08:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Does anyone have some spare DW? Posted on lm [24-Jun-23 02:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OMGitzCooper** joined.* [24-Jun-23 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OMGitzCooper**: howdy, coming from hackernews post on EVE adding Excel to the game [24-Jun-23 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Hi! I'd recommend starting on Promitor instead of Avalon :) [24-Jun-23 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OMGitzCooper**: do i make a new account or is there a way to switch [24-Jun-23 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: command for restarting your company is COLIQ [24-Jun-23 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: mind you, it has cooldown period, so you can't spam it, so would recommend you to plan a bit before you do it :) [24-Jun-23 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: though you can't go wrong on starting at Promitor, always solid start [24-Jun-23 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: ^^ as victualler is the best there i believe [24-Jun-23 07:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Ship getting to Avalon in ~2h, anyone want me to take stuff to HRT? ~800 m^3 open [24-Jun-23 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Not quick flight but probably sometime tomorrow, pay what you want :p [24-Jun-23 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: a corn chip [24-Jun-23 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nyuu** deleted this message.* [24-Jun-23 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nyuu** deleted this message.* [24-Jun-23 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: meh [24-Jun-23 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: What [24-Jun-23 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: wanted to link a meme [24-Jun-23 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: does not work, so forget it >_< [24-Jun-23 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: or search on google for [24-Jun-23 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: "i would sell you to satan for a corn chip" [24-Jun-23 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Oooh that's a good one [24-Jun-23 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: all my memes are good ones [25-Jun-23 04:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BLAU95** left.* [26-Jun-23 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sjalvarg** joined.* [27-Jun-23 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AmazingMuhammad** joined.* [27-Jun-23 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DadBpd**: Anybody needing shipment from HRT to Promitor or Avalon, I've got lots of space available, leaving in a few hours [27-Jun-23 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HamletsFather** joined.* [28-Jun-23 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: selling DW on LM [29-Jun-23 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TcEnterprize** joined.* [30-Jun-23 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ocornoc** left.* [02-Jul-23 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: how is everyone today? [02-Jul-23 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Snorting cotton for a better tomorrow. [02-Jul-23 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: haha ya i thought of doing the same but fuel hasn't failed me yet [02-Jul-23 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Also, welcome. I see you're a new player. As a suggestion, I would recommend COLIQing almost anywhere other than here. This planet is...if not outright hostile to new players, it's a very hard start. Virtually no meaningful resources to extract, sourcing large amounts of food processing inputs can be difficult from the CX, and no bonuses to manufacturing (what you'd usually be doing if you needed to source everything from the CX). [02-Jul-23 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: If you have a business plan that works...don't let me dissuade you from doing it, I just imagine this will be one of the rougher start options. [02-Jul-23 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Specifically, this is usually the "second" planet people on the food industries track take after starting on Promitor. Crops are grown there and then shuttled here for processing into RAT's. [02-Jul-23 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: ya I realized a little to late I came for the TS to refine FF but no money in it but ive just been heavy market trading been working out a little better [02-Jul-23 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Yeah, keep in mind TS is basically the "bootstrap" material for the fuel industry for super early game. In the early game, refining HE3 from TS is the only way to get it. HE3 exists in its natural state in the game though, just on gas giants. So until AEF production has begun, TS processing is the only way to get HE3. So now that the universe is developed, refining FF out of TS is...uniquely inefficient and therefore not particularly profitable. [02-Jul-23 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: ya i realized after my first run i had to scrap my extractor it was a mess :( now i focus on ST [02-Jul-23 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: And grabbed a pp1 to min. cost for expansion [02-Jul-23 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: but thanks ill have to try to get out to one cause with out it FF only makes me like 200 a line [02-Jul-23 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: A bit too late since you're already running a PP1, but keep in mind it's almost always a good idea to try and match your planets CoGC [02-Jul-23 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: For example, dropping a FP and producing DW with imports, selling that and buying Bfabs would leave you in a better financial state then making Bfabs yourself here. [02-Jul-23 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: If you're interested in continuing to grow into fuel refining as you get larger, please note VB-778B. That one has a fuel refining CoGC. VH-043e is a good source of natural HE3 (although very expensive to set up on). H is usually readily available locally. [02-Jul-23 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **HamletsFather**: or Hydron, but that is also expensive to set up and to keep up with logistics. [02-Jul-23 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Yes, I don't recommend setting up on Hydron without a substantial fleet, or a customer buying from you direct who has a substantial fleet. [02-Jul-23 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **HamletsFather**: but with that teken care of it is the cheapest option in the long run for H [02-Jul-23 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neoshancullman**: Not only is it expensive to set up on, it is expensive to repair [02-Jul-23 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: I still recommend simply buying from the CX. Supplies are readily available, the price is the cheapest in the galaxy by a decent margin, and sourcing from the CX incentivizes the people already there to continue producing an supplying the market, which aids in keeping prices affordable. [02-Jul-23 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neoshancullman**: I have 13 REF on Prom and 14 EXT on Avalon. H and AMM are cheap to get although GAL has been an issue recently but setting up a base on Boucher will take care of that. I have no problems selling fuel or making money on the CX. [02-Jul-23 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: Ill stick out fuels for now but thanks for the advise everyone worse comes to worse ill restart be for now im staying afloat [02-Jul-23 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Crazy question, why are you running REF's on Prom instead of the planet 1 jump away that's built for REF's? Your output would go way up and your cost per unit would decrease. [02-Jul-23 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Ah, nevermind, I see now. Saw your user age and not your company age, missed the COLIQ [02-Jul-23 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neoshancullman**: Logistics and time spent in game. HOR has the cheapest consumables in the galaxy, I can login and send a ship of fuel to the station and sell in less than 1 hour. The bases basically run themselves. I did make more credits when I did the FRM and RIG on Prom and the FP on Avalon, but it wasn't that much more. I can skim the buys on the CX and have everything done in 15 minutes. How much time do you spend in game? [02-Jul-23 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neoshancullman**: Granted I am not running a multi planet empire like yourself lol [02-Jul-23 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Was going to say, significantly more than 15 minutes...but I also have a dozen players on contracts and 18 permits, so....takes a bit of time =) [02-Jul-23 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neoshancullman**: but if it was just about money i would just print it making software or drones [02-Jul-23 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: I just love efficiency, efficiency efficiency, so with a Fuel Industries planet 1 jump away, I get twitchy seeing a planet filled with REF's. Twitch twitch, lol [02-Jul-23 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: Ya i ran REF here cause I thought TS would be better [02-Jul-23 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: i spend like a couple hors a day but thats just cause im still looking through stuff [02-Jul-23 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neoshancullman**: haha I have OCD to which is why I am trying to minimize my exposure to the game. This is like the 3rd thing and time I am trying out "The Plan", I have to limit myself or I will get sucked into it again [02-Jul-23 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: @HamletsFather a friend showed them to me [02-Jul-23 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Nothing wrong with running a few REF's here. I had 3 at one point making HE3/FF when I was in early days. Of course, fuel was almost always 16+ per unit then too, lol [02-Jul-23 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **HamletsFather**: Great, its good to go throu you options and their cost / return beforehand. [02-Jul-23 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neoshancullman**: True, but I am just a small fish trying to push down fuels prices. 14-16/u was not that long ago [02-Jul-23 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: how quick question do do shipment runs do i have to be pro or just be on here longer [02-Jul-23 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **HamletsFather**: to teke or post shipments and buy/sell on the local markets you need pro [02-Jul-23 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **HamletsFather**: *take [02-Jul-23 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: Thank you [02-Jul-23 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neoshancullman**: if you are looking to just take shipments or buy on the LM you can buy pro for 1 month and once it lapses you will always have basic [02-Jul-23 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: BASIC has access to accepting LM ads, and posting shipping ads at CXs [02-Jul-23 01:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **HamletsFather**: and you can also accept personal contracts sent from pro players with basic. [02-Jul-23 01:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neoshancullman**: it also makes joining a corporation and receiving help from players much easier [02-Jul-23 01:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: thanks that helps wasn't sure if id lose my abilites if it lapsed [02-Jul-23 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: You lose a large number of PRO benefits when it lapses, but contracts are retained except for "sending" direct contracts and issuing contracts on planets. [02-Jul-23 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MysteriousWalrus** deleted this message.* [02-Jul-23 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **HamletsFather**: and you can only fly two of your ships, if you should have more than two at the same time. [02-Jul-23 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neoshancullman**: lol [02-Jul-23 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: was extra wondering for a friend i have whos in OF-375 3 jumps from us in OZ makes sense for him to take contracts if hes coming all the way here [02-Jul-23 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **HamletsFather**: it depends. if his ship is standing around unused it might be worth it to send one and take contracts, but going back and forth is most likely not worth it. also It really depends wich contracts they take. there is no generall answer. [02-Jul-23 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: Thats fair ive seen a couple coming back here from the station when i had free cargo space [02-Jul-23 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: does fuel uses take weight into account [02-Jul-23 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Yes, but not on a starter ship. [02-Jul-23 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: A starter ships engine will hit the G-max for the design, with plenty of extra engine "oomph" left over, such that even when fully laden it still hits the design G-max. And the game calculates all that stuff off your ships acceleration. [02-Jul-23 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **HamletsFather**: also: don't underestimate the repair costs that will hit you when your ship goes to 80%. Hull plates do cost money. [02-Jul-23 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: So until you modify the ship to have a higher G-max which it might not be able to reach while loaded, or a larger cargo hold to make it so you can't reach G-max under load....it just doesn't care. [02-Jul-23 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: Thanks I didn't know how complicated ship building was cause I cant use it yet [02-Jul-23 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: BLU in a buffer [02-Jul-23 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Even though you can't build anything, you can play around with the system. [02-Jul-23 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Then you can take a BLU design and go into test mode with it to see how it will handle with a cargo load. The design specs can be highly misleading as to performance when you get into LCB's and WCB's, since an extra 2 or 3 KT of extra mass will play merry havoc with acceleration numbers [02-Jul-23 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: Damn thanks! Ill def. play around id love a long haul freighter some day [02-Jul-23 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Do keep in mind, if you ever plan to go with PRO, but you only plan to buy a month of it and then be BASIC. [02-Jul-23 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Pro players can upgrade over HQ5, So stockpile materials to build HQ's over 5 so you'll have them after you revert to BASIC. Also, only PRO players can upgrade ships. So get the upgrade materials for your ships before going PRO. [02-Jul-23 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: If, however, you don't mind doing it twice, you can upgrade once early to get contracts, and then again later on when you have those materials stockpiled. [02-Jul-23 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Or you can be crazy like me and just pay it every month =) [02-Jul-23 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: i might its not crazy expensive i came for FF14 and its 14dollars a month [03-Jul-23 06:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OMGitzCooper** left.* [03-Jul-23 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JRUGGER** joined.* [03-Jul-23 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: Curious where everyone's from im from NA east coast time is 3:06pm [03-Jul-23 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: EST as well [03-Jul-23 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Greed_McTavish**: Raised in EST, now in CST [03-Jul-23 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: MST here [04-Jul-23 01:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: PST [04-Jul-23 06:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: UK [04-Jul-23 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Belgium here! [04-Jul-23 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userffe5eed851** left.* [04-Jul-23 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: That's cool nice to see a spread of players I'm from New Jersey, US [04-Jul-23 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: I came from final fantasy 14 used to just play the market now I can just play the market all day! [05-Jul-23 06:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **HumAnt**: Poland :-) [05-Jul-23 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cirop** joined.* [05-Jul-23 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***xpingux** joined.* [06-Jul-23 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: @digginglake are you running for another term, or are you done? [06-Jul-23 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Ah, meant to make an announcement beforehand, but yes: I'm not planning on seeking re-election this term, unless we have a situation where nobody else runs. Given someone else is already running, that doesn't seem like it will be the case. [06-Jul-23 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Its been great to be your governor for this time, but I've been burning out on PrUn recently, leading to lower activity levels, and so I thought it best to step down before I ended up missing something important. [06-Jul-23 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Thanks for being a good governor :] [06-Jul-23 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Well shit. Lost the governor for Helion Prime, lost the Governor for Avalon, and lost the Governor for Montem. [06-Jul-23 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Good luck with whatever you end up getting up to instead of PrUn [06-Jul-23 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Time to step up Zuul [06-Jul-23 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: I already run a rock, it's my precious. [06-Jul-23 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: I'm not planning on leaving PrUn, unlike Rubicate or Rannepear, but I am slowing things down a bit and planning on doing a few more silly things. [06-Jul-23 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: It's the silly things that keep you going [06-Jul-23 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Anxuiz** left.* [06-Jul-23 10:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: That some one running is definately old school, unless they stole the name, their PrUn age is not what it seems.... [07-Jul-23 01:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: Ad for 200 h2o up on LM if anyone can help me [07-Jul-23 03:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: thanks for being our governor for so long @Digginglake you've been a great governor [07-Jul-23 06:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bodian**: 07 Thanks Digginglake [07-Jul-23 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Greed_McTavish**: No idea what it takes to govern a planet, otherwise I'd put my name in the hat. [07-Jul-23 10:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I get the basics, but know other people would do way better than I [07-Jul-23 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: heading to moria station in a couple hours have 200t room left if interested pm me [07-Jul-23 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: from Avalon [07-Jul-23 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: offer closed heading out [07-Jul-23 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Safe voyages [07-Jul-23 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: Thank you [09-Jul-23 12:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Njuk** joined.* [09-Jul-23 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bravotron** joined.* [10-Jul-23 03:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SunKiller** joined.* [10-Jul-23 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AsukaIsVeryCute** joined.* [11-Jul-23 01:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vile_Adventurer**: I posted 2 urgent shipping contracts on LM HRT, good money for quick delivery ;) [11-Jul-23 02:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: Sorry got nothing at HRT yet, if its still there in a few hours I'll do it for you [11-Jul-23 03:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Patoriku** left.* [11-Jul-23 07:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: As they were still there, I've taken them. ETA ~7 hours [11-Jul-23 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JRUGGER** left.* [11-Jul-23 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hectorino** joined.* [11-Jul-23 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: done [11-Jul-23 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TimedMercury64** joined.* [12-Jul-23 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***galchenok** left.* [12-Jul-23 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yellfior**: can anyone spot me 5 mcg. LM ad posted. [12-Jul-23 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Gotcha :] [12-Jul-23 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **yellfior**: You rock! Thanks. [12-Jul-23 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: No problem! [13-Jul-23 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **mottin**: I am looking for FLX 14 units at 3k ads up tks [14-Jul-23 12:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Posted an ad buying 1 BTA :] [14-Jul-23 12:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Gotcha :) [14-Jul-23 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Thank you! [14-Jul-23 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Greed_McTavish**: If anyone needs anything hauled to HRT, I have 2,000t/700m3, leaving in 10 hrs [14-Jul-23 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I'm going to send 245t/135m3 worth of stuff [14-Jul-23 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Erastus** joined.* [14-Jul-23 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Congrats Esabab on becoming governor :] [15-Jul-23 03:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: digging lake retired? [15-Jul-23 05:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: from governor, yes, from game, no, he just wanted to slow down a bit and governor can be a big job (why I don't want it) [15-Jul-23 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Indeed, I could see how being governor of a planet for almost a year might be restricting or repetitive [15-Jul-23 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Esabab**: Hmm, yes thanks...seems I am governor now. What do we need. Anything new? [15-Jul-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: You need to change the tax recipient to your Corp in the LR to receive taxes. [15-Jul-23 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: ^ [15-Jul-23 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I wouldn't mind if you kept the status quo :p [15-Jul-23 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: I mean, we still get taxed without the setting adjusted. The taxes just vanish from existence instead of going to the governor. [15-Jul-23 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: someone needs to make a guide for being gov [15-Jul-23 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Greed_McTavish**: ^ seconded [15-Jul-23 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Greed_McTavish**: SeaPear should take this up. [15-Jul-23 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: it's part of the reason governors will almost always be voted back in, if they ran the planet somewhat ok, no major shortages, then they did a good job [15-Jul-23 11:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: when a governor steps down, best bet for the new one is reach out and talk to the old one and see what he was maintaining things at, then do the same thing [16-Jul-23 12:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: for more details, don't overrun the population infrastructure, excess population does nothing but use up the happiness, etc, of the workers for no benefit. keep a small buffer so new people can set up new bases extra, and don't have open jobs if possible (higher tiers it's more questionable, but that shouldn't be a problem here) [16-Jul-23 04:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: In order of priority, what I would recommend is: get some MCG here to finish filling the COGC, queue a new program (probably Fest 2, I only queued Fest 3 to make the transition smoother), and get some OFF here to restock the INF. [16-Jul-23 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Greed_McTavish**: Loading up for HRT: 2,580t/800m3 available will be leaving in a few hours [16-Jul-23 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Greed_McTavish**: Last call. Leaving in 1hr. [16-Jul-23 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Oh the offers still up. I'll fill the space :] [16-Jul-23 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Not really fill, let me see [16-Jul-23 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***LeifErik** left.* [17-Jul-23 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bowwow** joined.* [18-Jul-23 06:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Garrosh** joined.* [18-Jul-23 07:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AsukaIsVeryCute** left.* [19-Jul-23 07:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: That was a big RAT buy at the CX, wiped out at least 30k units I reckon [19-Jul-23 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Not surprised it was Swanada :p [19-Jul-23 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Obsidianlord** joined.* [19-Jul-23 11:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Acekiller** joined.* [19-Jul-23 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TimedMercury64** left.* [19-Jul-23 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Obsidianlord** left.* [19-Jul-23 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Acekiller** left.* [20-Jul-23 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: Swanada [20-Jul-23 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: The canada of swans [20-Jul-23 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: Canada, the canada of canned swans >:3 [21-Jul-23 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kolqpq** joined.* [21-Jul-23 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nuvolico** joined.* [21-Jul-23 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Foxesinboxes** joined.* [22-Jul-23 01:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6aae952e10** left.* [22-Jul-23 03:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DarkerThanBlack** joined.* [22-Jul-23 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ChristoAmor** joined.* [22-Jul-23 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Erastus** left.* [22-Jul-23 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kolqpq**: Why are taxes here half of Promitor? [22-Jul-23 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I don't know the lowest they can go, but the governors here have been anti-tax [22-Jul-23 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Might be at minimum tax limit right now as the planets in faction space [22-Jul-23 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: yeah i think it's at minimum [22-Jul-23 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: very lucrative BDE contract up [22-Jul-23 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Also, from a purely technical standpoint, avalon needs less taxes. One, each production line on a FP takes less employees than on a FRM, so tax revenue per supported pop is greater here. Also, prom is a heavily settled starter, which means a lot of dead weight abandoned bases not producing tax income but still tying up workers. [23-Jul-23 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ziam** joined.* [23-Jul-23 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Youmademeplay** left.* [23-Jul-23 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Esabab**: Well taxes from the last period were 180550 [23-Jul-23 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Mmm nice [23-Jul-23 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: That is nice, since taxes are basically as low as they can go (yes, there is a minimum in faction space), and, at least eyeballing it real quick, looks like around a 50-60K profit against upkeep materials, so that would pay for....some or all of the program (not sure on the cost since it scales). [23-Jul-23 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: And I could be off on the upkeep cost as well. I literally just eyeballed it real quick right now, lol [23-Jul-23 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Esabab**: Festivities II is 52,942 ICA [23-Jul-23 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kolqpq**: So the "barely there" taxes are enough to pay for both POPI and regular festivities? That's nice. By the way, for curiosity's sake, can the governor tell if the taxes are coming from PIOs or TECs or FP? [23-Jul-23 10:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: No, there is exactly fuck all ability to audit the tax income. [23-Jul-23 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: closest you can do is seeing how many are employed with the pop report [23-Jul-23 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Esabab**: yeah governor accounts and better tax info are longstanding requests to the devs [24-Jul-23 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shinechaote** joined.* [24-Jul-23 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: lol zuul you are really undercutting yourself alot on NS.IC1 [24-Jul-23 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Lmao yeah [24-Jul-23 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I think he's trying to make it resellable-proof [24-Jul-23 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: i mean with increments like that, its easy to do reselling. [24-Jul-23 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: probably trying to give people an incentive to buy quickly [24-Jul-23 10:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: The less visible part is probably how much stock he has left ready to under sell the relisters [24-Jul-23 10:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: This is a great way to tell relisters to leave this essential (at least in HRT) good alone [25-Jul-23 05:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: How is it easy to do reselling? Sure, you can come in and buy up the 1K and relist it...and maybe turn 20K or so in profit on a 300-400K investment if you manage to sell it before I list another pile under you. Or you can tempt fate and run it all the way up and buy it out all the way out to the top so you can make some real profits...on the stuff you bought at the bottom, and PRAY I don't have a giant pile I'm sitting on. [25-Jul-23 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Kind of like OVE's. I list it in lots of 2K. You'd shit your pants if I ever listed the entire pile, lol [25-Jul-23 05:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: a sound tactic to increase OVE demand :3 [25-Jul-23 05:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: (for making peeps shit in their pants) [25-Jul-23 05:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: I know, I know, I'm hilarious as always ^_^ [25-Jul-23 05:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: That's a great marketing ploy....the fact I didn't think about that hurts me. Oh well, it's 6am and I've not finished my coffee yet, I have an excuse. [25-Jul-23 05:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: Able to form sentences before morning coffee counts as superpower for me [25-Jul-23 07:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***themobiletuberYT** left.* [25-Jul-23 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: able to think anything other than coffeeeeeeeeee, before coffee is one for me [25-Jul-23 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***copy2** joined.* [25-Jul-23 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **copy2**: o/ [25-Jul-23 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Hello! [26-Jul-23 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Esabab**: o/ [27-Jul-23 01:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: If anyone could help me out with some h2o there's an ad on the LM [27-Jul-23 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: many thanks [27-Jul-23 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: np [27-Jul-23 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Does anyone have some PG here? If so, could I buy all of it? :) [27-Jul-23 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Organised_Chaos** left.* [27-Jul-23 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **HumAnt**: I have 1200 PG @xfgr_ [27-Jul-23 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **HumAnt**: if you place a buy order for 42k ICA, I will take it, and deliver right away [27-Jul-23 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: sorry, I already sent a shipment from HRT [27-Jul-23 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: and i also don't have pro :D [27-Jul-23 02:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **HumAnt**: OK, no problem :-) [27-Jul-23 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: In the future, if both of you happened to be BASIC, I could act as an intermediary if you didn't mind some slight waits [27-Jul-23 02:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Don't need an intermediary with both parties being basic. [27-Jul-23 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Basic can issue shipping orders on the CX. So you can use shipping and cancelations to transfer material on any planet. And a simple delivery completion for the payment. [27-Jul-23 03:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Ooh yeah, forgot about that [27-Jul-23 05:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: anyone checked out the new loan contracts? [27-Jul-23 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I've had a look at it, haven't put it to use [28-Jul-23 01:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ChristoAmor**: would the cancellations affect company rating? [28-Jul-23 07:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lexetal** joined.* [28-Jul-23 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: shipping stuffs from prom :) [28-Jul-23 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ArcturusRex** joined.* [28-Jul-23 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: :salute: greetings, fellow Avalonians! [28-Jul-23 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Hello there :] [28-Jul-23 06:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kolqpq**: 14 days on a second base? Impressive [28-Jul-23 06:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I'd also say your time on a second base is impressive [28-Jul-23 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Behold the power of PRO. And some short term loans =P [28-Jul-23 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: =D [28-Jul-23 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: I blame both of you! [28-Jul-23 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vile_Adventurer**: Zuul grooming people again ^^ [28-Jul-23 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: What can I say Arcturus, just following in his footsteps :] [28-Jul-23 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vile_Adventurer**: be carefull Arc, he might just get you hooked on this game, and before you know it, you become governor on a random planet ;) [28-Jul-23 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: He'll get you as governor of OZ-189a [28-Jul-23 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: I'm a wonderful tyrant [28-Jul-23 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: Nyuu? [28-Jul-23 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: nyuu too [28-Jul-23 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Forgot Nyuu was on Avalon, oh God [28-Jul-23 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: thihihi~ [28-Jul-23 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: i recycle the pee of all my workforce [28-Jul-23 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: and make it to drinking water here [28-Jul-23 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: is the mat code "DW"? [28-Jul-23 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: ye, "don't worry", absolutely drinking water [28-Jul-23 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: all with imported H2O? sounds heavy [28-Jul-23 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: Absolut DW [28-Jul-23 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: ooh, OZ-189 looks like a paradise to me. Is that where Zuul produces all of his NS? [28-Jul-23 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: You can ask the evil mastermind himself ;] [28-Jul-23 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Not a drop [28-Jul-23 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: Also looks like a FABulous place to make bulkheads and structural elements [28-Jul-23 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: I mean, I do have a fairly serious string of bases up there. Like a necklace. OZ-189, OF-375, OF-443, OF-208. All systems in a row, and I have 6 bases between the 4 systems, lol [28-Jul-23 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: I'll have to study them [29-Jul-23 12:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: be careful of OZ-189A, the planet has high temp, this makes every building way more expensive as that is the most expensive planetary fault to fix, this carries onto repairs as well [29-Jul-23 12:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: it's a good resource tap though, and for FEO, it's overpriced, there are cheaper places you can get FEO that while they produce less, the lower production is so much cheaper that it still makes more money, less so for the LST as there aren't as good of locations nearby to get it. it is however one of the best places in the region to get HAL, which is the only way to get CL which is used in quite a few different production chains [29-Jul-23 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: ...gosh, the vacation brochures made it look so nice! [29-Jul-23 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: those pictures are from hundreds of years ago. now its back to back food processing factories [29-Jul-23 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZekTheMad**: anyone have 12 mcg here by chance? [29-Jul-23 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZekTheMad**: had a repair cost tick over [29-Jul-23 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: yes [29-Jul-23 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Yeah [29-Jul-23 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Whoop [29-Jul-23 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: there you go [29-Jul-23 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZekTheMad**: thank you much [29-Jul-23 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: I've returned to putting ads up buying RAT on the LM, the rate isn't as good as you can get going to the CX, especially a more distant CX, but these ads are for people that don't want to go to the effort of shipping them to the CX to sell and still get a decent price [29-Jul-23 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Appreciate the offers :] [29-Jul-23 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Always nice to have LM deals like that available [29-Jul-23 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: you welcome, I stopped doing it awhile ago due to cash flow issues (I didn't have enough ICA, lots of every other currency though) [29-Jul-23 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: my goal is selling them at other CXs, I have stuff I want to pick up there and want something to sell there (I already have what I want to pick up, just don't want to fly empty one way) [29-Jul-23 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: now that I have shipping capacity again, I plan to return to some inter CX trading [29-Jul-23 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Sounds good man, I know the other people on Avalon won't mind that ;] [29-Jul-23 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: yeah, I offer only slightly less than HRT ask price, but doesn't cost to ship to CX, as I said, could make more putting up offer price on HRT CX, or shipping to MOR, ANT, BEN, but that requires effort to do (ship time, fuel, dealing with other currencies, waiting on the sale if your putting up offer price, etc), I'm offering a less effort way to sell, though in limited amounts. is it a great deal, no, but I think it is at least acceptable for both of us (I buy low enough I can still turn a profit at the other end, you make an acceptable amount on RAT production, hopefully) [29-Jul-23 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: opps, got offer and ask price mixed up in previous message... [30-Jul-23 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Anyone happen to have 2 BBH I can buy? I'll put up a LM ad for them [30-Jul-23 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: gotcha! [30-Jul-23 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Thank you! Screwed up my math [30-Jul-23 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: captcha [30-Jul-23 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ziam** left.* [30-Jul-23 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ship leaving for MOR station tonight, got 1250t and 220m3 free. any takers? [30-Jul-23 06:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Emerus** joined.* [30-Jul-23 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ship heading out [31-Jul-23 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: ship leaving Avalon => HRT Station in 15m. 450t/450m3 free. Anyone need shipping? [31-Jul-23 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Maybe [31-Jul-23 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Sent you 2, should fill ya up [31-Jul-23 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: ::whoosh!:: [01-Aug-23 01:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eno_Phmann** joined.* [01-Aug-23 05:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Psion** joined.* [01-Aug-23 07:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pelayo_Asturias** joined.* [01-Aug-23 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***uristohkrat** joined.* [01-Aug-23 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: local ad selling 500 STL [01-Aug-23 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: To clarify, 500 SF [01-Aug-23 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: I actually went "whaa" and ran off to see if there was a good deal on a pile of steel, lol [01-Aug-23 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: lol i was thinking someone already took it. [01-Aug-23 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: sadly i make my own SF. [01-Aug-23 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: haha sorry i was rushing when i typed it [01-Aug-23 08:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: to clarify SF [01-Aug-23 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: Yeah I had the same confusion lol [01-Aug-23 11:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: ship departing Avalon => HRT Station in 10 minutes, 250t/270m3 free, anyone want delivery? [02-Aug-23 01:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dycart** joined.* [02-Aug-23 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NeedzABetterSN** joined.* [02-Aug-23 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Old school not re-running? [02-Aug-23 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Depends, maybe just forgot to run ahead of time [02-Aug-23 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***roganartu** joined.* [02-Aug-23 11:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Helter5**: anyone got OVE for sale? 200 pieces? [03-Aug-23 01:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: I don't have it on site but I can have it here in 4 hours [03-Aug-23 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Esabab**: Anyone going to run for governor? If not I can do it again [03-Aug-23 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Honestly, governors are in short supply since they must be PRO. And so many of us are already governing some rock. [03-Aug-23 07:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: If a single player could govern multiple planets, problem solved....but with 1 rock per player....well..... [03-Aug-23 08:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: What was the change on that? [03-Aug-23 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Esabab**: adding 1 to food industries. The taxes are break even at best [03-Aug-23 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: I can't speak for everyone, but if you're not covering the tax bill, don't be shy about giving it a bit more of a hike. I wouldn't bat an eyelash at anything up to 20 right now if it were necessary. [03-Aug-23 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: And if you could provide some numbers showing it was needed, I'd swallow probably up to 30 without complaint. [03-Aug-23 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: No one bitches about the taxes on RE on Boucher, and if that were equalized out for pops per production line, I think it would work out to something like 21 on food industries here [03-Aug-23 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Esabab**: Festivities II program is like 53k every week so that alone is around 215k or so a month in cash and easy to calculate. We are averaging like 220k a week in taxes. I'd have to run the numbers on soil, dw and all the other stuff to get an exact readout [03-Aug-23 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Well, like I said, anything up to 20 for me, personally, I don't even need you to tell me why. The planet right now is being run at tax levels where you're more or less subsidizing it. [03-Aug-23 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Hell, we don't even reach 1 ICA per RAT in taxes until somewhere north of 30 if my memory is working. [03-Aug-23 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Esabab**: Yeah, 300k was sent over from the previous governor so was easy to get started [03-Aug-23 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Actually, I think we hit 1 ICA per RAT at 40 in taxes. .25 per run per 1 in tax rate. So at 40 we'd be at 10 per run. If I were you, I'd just kick the tax rate straight to 20....and if you're turning a profit afterwards and feel "bad" about it, you can lower them later. Like I said above, we have a shortage of governors. No one is going to WANT to do it if they're losing money. So long as the plates keep spinning I'm fine with it. [03-Aug-23 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: I wouldn't mind running but I'll already be gov of another planet [03-Aug-23 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: If anyone feels otherwise, let them speak up....but I don't imagine anyone is going to tell you that you need to be subsidizing this out of your own pocket. [03-Aug-23 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kolqpq**: Speaking for myself I'm fine with higher taxes but I can't help but shake my head at the FP tax being higher than the others. Both the CoGC and the fact that FPs have less PIOs reduce the effective tax rate per PIO in comparison to other industries. Although I doubt much of anyone does anything else here so whatever. [03-Aug-23 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: The CoGC doesn't alter the effective tax rate for people with bases. The tax payment is set by the base time for the job, and ignores efficiency improvements from all sources. Technically, the CoGC increases the effective tax rate from the perspective of the governor (more tax revenue incoming) because that set tax is being paid more often because of the efficiency boost from the CoGC. [03-Aug-23 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: So no matter how much efficiency you have, the per unit tax remains fixed for the base owner, but tax revenue increases for the governor by virtue of more work being done. [03-Aug-23 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Which, for anyone who was aware of some of the Montem shenanigans is part of the reason why the "chem people need to pay their fair share" for having the CoGC was so utterly hilarious. Everyone who matches up with the CoGC by default pays more taxes into the upkeep fund by being more efficient. (Another benefit of purely mono-industry bases by the way, the governor can afford to keep taxes lower) [03-Aug-23 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gasgano**: If anyone is going for Avalon in next 24h i've put an ad for 1t/0,5m for 1500 ICA, cause i forgot sth important :D [03-Aug-23 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gasgano**: (on HRT) [03-Aug-23 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: What did you leave behind? [03-Aug-23 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gasgano**: PG xD [03-Aug-23 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Want me to cut you reciprocal contracts for 500 PG then? I have enough here to last me awhile, so I can give it to you to get started and you just return it when your shipment shows up [03-Aug-23 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gasgano**: Nah, it's not that important to create an imbalance this big, thank you though! [03-Aug-23 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: I should at some point give being a governor ago. Any guides anywhere people recommend? [03-Aug-23 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Other than asking previous governors of your planet or asking in the Discords. Closest thing to a guide is an accounting sheet available on the third parties page [03-Aug-23 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kolqpq**: @Zuul That's what I meant by effective tax rate. Since CoGC industry produce faster they pay more tax while using the same amount of population, and indirectly of POPI and Programs costs. Although on the other hand there's also the CoGC maintenance cost, which in fairness should be paid by the people using the CoGC so I guess it all works out in the end whatever. [03-Aug-23 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Ah, I was confused because you had said "reduce the effective tax rate", where it would be increased. We were both talking the same thing though. [03-Aug-23 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: political promises... [03-Aug-23 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: COGC and POPI upkeep costs are largely determined by the wanton level of upgrades applied and the pecentage of upkeep materials delivered. It might seem fair that those benefiting the most from the facilities provided should pay for their upkeep, hoever it's just another issue of the "problem of the commons". [03-Aug-23 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: You could organize an upkeep coalition of players on the planet, but that's alot of work. An easier solution would involve just attracting new companies to fill out at least 1 permit on a given planet. [03-Aug-23 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Of course, being a governor on a packed starter planet definitely helps. By my guestimates, Promitor is getting around the ballpark of 1.4 mil ICA to devote to upkeep and upgrade costs, whereas Avalon (in its current state) is maybe generating ~500k ICA in production fee revenues. [03-Aug-23 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Forming a governing corporation on a planet to open membership to those willing, and able to contribute towards upkeep, while benefitting from a corporate HQ production bonus is also a viable option. [03-Aug-23 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Sadly I believe Avalon is one of the few planets you cannot build an Corp HQ on [03-Aug-23 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: I call bull on that. [03-Aug-23 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: If you have plots available, you should be able to put up a corp hq. [03-Aug-23 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: It's kinda why its stated in the esoteric language of the APEX wiki, that you can't build on starter planets, because they have no plots available at all, if ever, like Promitor. [03-Aug-23 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Uhhhhh [03-Aug-23 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: It's on the building itself in the corporation projects [03-Aug-23 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: And no, you can't build it on starter planets, plots or no plots. [03-Aug-23 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Is Harmonia a starter planet? [03-Aug-23 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Also, your tax income numbers are VASTLY overinflated. [03-Aug-23 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Perhaps to the tune of double [03-Aug-23 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Highly likely, considering it was named 861 days ago....but....I'm not sure, because I didn't pay any attention to what the starter planets are for ANT [03-Aug-23 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I just said what I said as the previous governor even said he tried to put an HQ here and it didn't work. [03-Aug-23 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: I performed an average of my weekly production fees numbers, assuming a normalized distribution. but I don't have access to gov figures anywhere. [03-Aug-23 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: You're not counting for dead accounts. [03-Aug-23 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: If the base facilities aren't running, they're not producing any taxes [03-Aug-23 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: They're just employing workers and eating upkeep supplies while contributing nothing. It's even worse the more popular the planet. [03-Aug-23 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: ooph. [03-Aug-23 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: So, for Avalon, you've likely estimated by at least double. [03-Aug-23 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: For promitor....probably somewhere between 2x and 3x. [03-Aug-23 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: I was estimating everyone having a full plot, with activity. [03-Aug-23 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Maybe even 4x on Prom, since Prom is mostly FRM's which provide VERY little tax income over a full active plot. [03-Aug-23 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: For ANT, you can't build a corp HQ on Deimos or Phobos [03-Aug-23 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: I thought Corporate HQ was only allowed in factionless space [03-Aug-23 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: That's what it says in the handbook: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/tutorials/current-tutorials/08-corporations-and-contracts/index.html {Embed} https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/tutorials/current-tutorials/08-corporations-and-contracts/index.html 08 - Corporations and Contracts :: Prosperous Universe Wiki Prosperous Universe Wiki [03-Aug-23 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: The way they word it is sorta poor in my opinion. It's less faction space, and more planets that were considered starter planets originally [03-Aug-23 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: ah [03-Aug-23 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I wasn't here to know what the original starter planets are so, other than the obvious ones, I had to listen to FireFreak's list he has in the Discords [03-Aug-23 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Anxuiz** joined.* [03-Aug-23 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: I think you can probably look at when it was named. I assume any planets named on server start were starters. [03-Aug-23 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: If it was named afterwards, it likely wasn't an original starter. I haven't tested that theory though [03-Aug-23 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Verdant was named before Avalon (neither of which were on server start) but Avalon is considered a starter [03-Aug-23 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Other starters were probably named prior as some were in the previous universe, thus not having a time of when they were named, like Promitor and Montem [03-Aug-23 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Antares: Deimos, Phobos Hortus: Promitor, Avalon, Berthier, Nova Honshu Moria: Montem, Vallis, Prism Benten: Proxion, Gibson, Umbra, Katoa [03-Aug-23 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: i think those are the original starter planets [03-Aug-23 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: is what firefreak always says [03-Aug-23 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Aye [03-Aug-23 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I guess I just find it weird that some of the original starter planets were not named at the start. Which is sorta confusing as it helps you tell that some are "main planets" when they have a name and aren't named by anyone [04-Aug-23 04:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: faction contract, cost me 3 MCG for 5 faction points, 1k ICA, and 33 FF, could have done 1 MCG if I wanted to be cheaper... faction contract to supply either building materials or upkeep to something, so the smallest amount I could be bothered trying to drag was 3 MCG into the CoCG... [04-Aug-23 04:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: talking about lack of governors, another planet I'm on lost it's governor recently (he moved to governing another planet), and no one stepped up to replace him at the time... we are now onto our second election cycle and still no one runs for governor [04-Aug-23 04:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: being a governor just seems so intimidating [04-Aug-23 04:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: I was planning to try at some point, I just didn't want to on one of my existing planets... [04-Aug-23 04:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: was planning on doing so on a planet that I needed to develop to achieve my goals on [04-Aug-23 05:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **HamletsFather**: It highly depends on the planet how hard the job of the governor is. If you have a planet with a clear purpose and less then 30 Bases it's quite a chill job. Having a Mayor planet with 200 or 300 bases on it is a different thing. [04-Aug-23 05:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: yeah, planet that needs one that I'm looking at has 8 bases on it [04-Aug-23 05:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: I've mentioned I'd consider it on the planet in question, and that I'd want to try and grow a higher tier population so I can move some of my buildings off another planet with the same CoCG since they take up so much space that could be used by lower tier buildings that I really need more of in that region (or at least moved off a non CoCG planet in the same system since I ran out of space for them due to the higher tier planets) [04-Aug-23 05:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: not like I didn't already have enough things to do in the game this weekend as is, I have a ton of stuff I need to plan out because I misread a decimal last week) [04-Aug-23 05:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: replanning half my empires bases to more effectively use their space wasn't in the books, it was only supposed to be a quarter that was effected by that stuff up [04-Aug-23 05:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: That's what developing desolate worlds is for, however you're otherwise limited when a mass of players decide to colonize the world for other purposes. [04-Aug-23 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: oh, with only 1 exception, I've been quite lucky, problem is the desolate planets in that region aren't good to settle, plus permit limits, and if I really want to grow the planet quickly, I'd need to govern it to grow desired pops quickly, it's why I've been holding off on stepping up as governor on planets I'm already on, I choose those because they already did what I wanted them to do [04-Aug-23 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***xpingux** left.* [05-Aug-23 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: "selling@ 20MCG to get rid of it [05-Aug-23 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **HamletsFather**: buying it for socialism! [05-Aug-23 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nyuu**: lol [06-Aug-23 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RazrRagz** joined.* [07-Aug-23 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ArcturusRex** deleted this message.* [07-Aug-23 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: Ship flying Avalon > HRT Station, 250 t / 410 m3 available. Leaving in 30 minutes [08-Aug-23 04:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Windy_Day** left.* [08-Aug-23 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **NeedzABetterSN**: I've got a shipping contract HRT -> Avalon for 7k if you wanna pick it up on your way back [08-Aug-23 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Emerus** left.* [08-Aug-23 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TimurOm** left.* [08-Aug-23 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: miscounted bbh, if anyone got one, contract up to buy one [08-Aug-23 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: anyone need anything shipped from HRT to avalon? [08-Aug-23 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***worvand** deleted this message.* [08-Aug-23 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: 1970t/m3 free [08-Aug-23 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Posted an LM ad looking for OVE if anyone has some available [09-Aug-23 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ship leaving [09-Aug-23 11:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Changyo** joined.* [09-Aug-23 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: if Im trying to get a shipment to Moria (not right now but later) do you think its better to put a local ad out on Avalon or Promitor instead of hortus [09-Aug-23 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: I probably wouldn't, adds a bit of margin for error, though ultimatley wouldn't say it's a 'bad' idea [09-Aug-23 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: you'll get more visibility from inter-cx shippers if you're posted at a CX. [09-Aug-23 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: my thought process was alot of people are going from planet to MOR rather then planet to HRT to MOR [09-Aug-23 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Lots of people going to MOR from here are going there "because" they already have a cargo that they're self producing. Most of the people buzzing through here with cargo room to spare are those doing shipping from Prov->Ava. So they might take it, if there's no other intra-system traffic coming off of Avalon and they're willing to FTL. [09-Aug-23 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: @TcEnterprize what is the size you need shipped? [09-Aug-23 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: @worvand i dont need one right now but normally i have a couple at 137t [09-Aug-23 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ChristoAmor**: Hey, I noticed technicians are in decline and I was looking to invest into InvitroPlants. Is anyone else interested in building up the technician population? I want to contribute towards the upkeep to increase them but I'm a new player and can't contribute all of what's necessary. [09-Aug-23 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Well there's alot of shipments going there atm - it's unusual in that I haven't seen it before. [09-Aug-23 10:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: You'll have trouble shipping it at bottom tier rates. In-system jobs might have enough spare capacity in that those who have room in one-direction might pick up those jobs if they have nothing else better to do. Out of system jobs require some sort of competition to attract the business. [09-Aug-23 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: For instance, a full load for 4-5k to Moria will be competing against a half-load at 8k to Antares. If there's only one ship coming into to HRT to do shipping jobs, you'll be hard pressed to get items shipped to Moria, in that scenario. [09-Aug-23 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: But who knows? \o/ [10-Aug-23 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Honestly, I keep seeing these cut throat rate shipping jobs. In my younger days, I wouldn’t have “ever” taken a CX to CX run for anything under 8k (and that was in hungry times), 10k was pretty much my minimum for a cargo from adjacent CX’s, and 12k for the cross CX route. I know the cheaper ones “do” eventually move (since I see them leaving the LM), it can just take awhile sometimes. [10-Aug-23 05:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: It's funny. [10-Aug-23 05:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: For whatever reason, rates for in-system and to-CX-system have largely dropped, like you said, aside from a few "golden customers" who pay top rate, since they've been through that grind before, and know how it feels. [10-Aug-23 05:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: The rates from a dead-end system, like Boucher, to CX have been steadily increasing, fwiw. [10-Aug-23 05:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: However that's not my point. The bottom rate shipments are easily found with deadlines of 7+ days. The ones that you see on the LM are less than bottom rate. It costs more in current exchange prices, for fuel and repairs, to ship cross CX than's what's being offered in recompense. [10-Aug-23 05:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Basically, pay me, and do my work, so that you can play the game. [10-Aug-23 05:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: MAYBE an LCB or WCB fit ship can pick those things up for a decent rate, but there's usually better work out there for those ships anyways. [10-Aug-23 05:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrSnowman** joined.* [10-Aug-23 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NeedzABetterSN** deleted this message.* [10-Aug-23 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: what would you guys say is a good rate for 500t for CX to CX like HRT to MOR [10-Aug-23 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Honestly, I've seen some taken for like 6k, but I would not take a CX to CX one for less than ~8k [10-Aug-23 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Eno_Phmann**: Why does it say navigation subsystem not ready? [10-Aug-23 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: The server was down... [10-Aug-23 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: Hey P.s. @ChristoAmor and I were wondering if anyone esle was looking for tech. on this planet was thinking of Running IVP but at this rate theres no chance i could employ 1 plant let alone a base [10-Aug-23 04:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: flying to hortus station 1700t/m3 free [10-Aug-23 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: 0.5ica per 1t or 1m3. with ever is more [10-Aug-23 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Sentcha two contracts :] [10-Aug-23 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: three* [10-Aug-23 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: got 1500t/m3 left, any other takers? [10-Aug-23 06:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ship leaving [10-Aug-23 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Appreciate it Worv :] [11-Aug-23 03:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Foxesinboxes** left.* [11-Aug-23 03:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: I'm thinking of setting up a IVP as well, not 100% I want to yet though [11-Aug-23 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***loaf_uh_bread** joined.* [11-Aug-23 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ya looks like we need more technicians [11-Aug-23 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: the ivp wont be fully staffed if built rn :/ [11-Aug-23 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: only registering 3 joining if a build a ivf myself [11-Aug-23 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: 3/70 is not a good workforce [11-Aug-23 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: the resuffle will porbably put it at 50-60/70 tho [11-Aug-23 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Less. Significantly less. [11-Aug-23 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: thanks. couldnt remeber how much the reserve takes [11-Aug-23 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Nevermind, let me crunch again. Was looking at engineers like an idiot, lol [11-Aug-23 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: 27 or less, 27 is all the unemployed technicians on the planet right now, assuming no one has built anything using TEC's [11-Aug-23 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Unless PF3 has been activated for the upcoming week, it will be negative TEC's by the time you've built anything and the POPR arrives. [11-Aug-23 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: infrastructure needs to be improved if anyone wants tecs for their buildings [11-Aug-23 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: pool available for recruitment for me is 3 technicians :/ [11-Aug-23 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Nah, doesn't need improved. Needs supplied. We're on pure DW for safety. Needs OFF. We're sufficient for a holding pattern right now alternating between PF2/3 [11-Aug-23 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Yes, 10% of 27 [11-Aug-23 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ahh [11-Aug-23 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Growth will require running PF3 for awhile, or supplying OFF. [11-Aug-23 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: i can put in some Prephabs in a day or so i have PF 1-2 on planet but it'll take a bit to make\ [11-Aug-23 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Adding more prefabs won't help. [11-Aug-23 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: oh i though it took prefabs so upgrade [11-Aug-23 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: I mean, if you build to level 10 SST and stay on pure DW, that would give another...oh...4% safety fulfillment or so [11-Aug-23 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: we are having problems upkeeping the current level, upgrades wont help it seems [11-Aug-23 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: I don't know that it's problems, so much as it's just not being done because the current settings allow for maintaining a rough status quo. [11-Aug-23 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: its 270 OFF and 270 SUn for upkeep per upkeep cycle on safety station :/ [11-Aug-23 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: so what does need to be done sorry im new [11-Aug-23 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Nothing. You don't need to do anything at all. At "new" TEC's shouldn't even be something you're thinking about. [11-Aug-23 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ^ [11-Aug-23 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: 270 OFF per 3 days, and 270 SUN per 10 days. Doesn't really need both of them though, 1 or the other would be plenty to bring safety up to a happy growth spot. [11-Aug-23 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: That would get you to roughly 70% safety fulfillment. [11-Aug-23 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Infirmary could use TUB's as well, to be honest, at least if you're wanting TEC worker growth. [11-Aug-23 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: oof thats a quarter a mil per 3 days for off alone [11-Aug-23 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Who the hell is selling OFF for 1K/u? [11-Aug-23 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: You might want to double check your math a wee bit, lol [11-Aug-23 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: sorry put in the wrong number [11-Aug-23 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: i did reserve XD [11-Aug-23 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: 24k per 3 days [11-Aug-23 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: quarter a mil is 30 days [11-Aug-23 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: @Zuul to be honest im not but two of my Corp. mates are doing way better then i am so im more speaking for them [11-Aug-23 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: I can't even begin to imagine what got them off to such a fast start ;) [11-Aug-23 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Lmao [11-Aug-23 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: They don't need to worry about Avalon TEC's either =P [11-Aug-23 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: haha know you'd notice eventually [11-Aug-23 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: IVP products just don't have a ton of demand right now. [11-Aug-23 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: More than they did half a year ago, but still not much at all [11-Aug-23 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: ya ive noticed take it most people who need them have the means of making it themselves [11-Aug-23 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: I mean....yes, and no. If you need them you're making enough money to not really care about paying the premium to have someone else make the stuff. It's just that there's plain not a lot of SCI in the universe right now to consume them. More than there were, for sure, but still not many [11-Aug-23 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: Fair, well Ill pass on what ive learned. Thanks for the info as always! [11-Aug-23 09:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: 250 t / 130 m3 available flying to HRT station, departing in 20m [12-Aug-23 06:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: An undeveloped market cuts both ways. People who have the means to do so will reserve room from their otherwise more profitable ventures to purely produce TEC/SCI consumables, due to inconsistent market supply. Producers will likewise scurry to more stable markets due to inconsistent demand. [12-Aug-23 06:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: If you would want to develop that market, start off with more competition on the bid-side. It'll attract suppliers if there's enough going on. If you don't need the product itself, but can forward a decent chunk of change with nothing do to, you can then relist those filled bids. Getting commodities to market is one thing, but information within an assymetric space is also just as valuable. You might not be able to know what some, or most player's production outputs and inputs are, however you'll readily utilize current market orders and trends to justify upcoming operational decisions. [12-Aug-23 06:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: But that's just my conjecture of increasing market competition leading to increased production. Who knows if it'll work. [12-Aug-23 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: seen artificial demand strategy not work in other games. from what ive seen if you want to kick start a market, a supplier has to sell at a tiny profit or at cost for awhile so people already producing switch to relying on others and some people go into useing the product instead of making their own. after that slight price increases bring the market into line [12-Aug-23 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: one big problem is that most people that need those resources prefer to make them themselves. they have way more than enough money to setup the lines needed, and producing your own is more reliable than the market. [12-Aug-23 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: is there anyone with TEC/SCI that wishes something was more avaible in market [12-Aug-23 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: know it seems silly but no way to know but ask ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [12-Aug-23 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Do you mean ENG/SCI or did you actually intend to ask about TEC/SCI? [12-Aug-23 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: I meant ENG/SCI. [12-Aug-23 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: For whatever reason, I value technicians more than engineers XD [12-Aug-23 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: usefulness probably [12-Aug-23 09:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Kolqpq**: I value engineers more than technicians because their picky eater tendencies are so profitable [12-Aug-23 09:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: spacey ramen FTW! [13-Aug-23 01:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: i was asking about TEC/SCI cause there supplies are the least sold on CX so if theres a commodity that is cumbersome to produce they might be more willing to buy it from CX [13-Aug-23 01:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: but also willing to here ENG [13-Aug-23 01:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: if there was a better supply on the CX, since I often buy in bulk and then stock at the CX until I ship them to a base that needs them (I'm horribly unoptimized in that I store consumables at CX warehouse until they are needed), then I wouldn't need a IVP [13-Aug-23 01:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: which commodity if you dont mind me asking [13-Aug-23 02:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: general supply, I can do the various alcohols just fine (ALE, GIN, WIN), as well as MED and FIM myself, I've got 90% of what I need to make SC, but the ones I can't make are HMS, HSS, PDA and VG (why I wanted to IVP) [13-Aug-23 02:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: I'm not are sci consumables yet, or worrying about them either (though that may change in the near future) [13-Aug-23 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ashes** joined.* [14-Aug-23 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Posted ads on the LM buying 18 COF and 20 OVE if anyone has any to spare :] [14-Aug-23 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Thank you both! [14-Aug-23 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Suskueve**: :D [15-Aug-23 07:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NeedzABetterSN** deleted this message.* [15-Aug-23 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: shipping in little over 3k OFF anyone interested? [15-Aug-23 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zuul**: Nope, don't need any more TPS sheets. Thanks though =) [15-Aug-23 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: was told these are full of "promotion goods" dont know what is being promoted tho. [15-Aug-23 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ok i opened one up and its worker's rights promotional material. guess its all going in the INC [16-Aug-23 05:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Okay but who the hell is doing food processing with engineers? [16-Aug-23 05:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: odds are someone is just using the planet as a close to HRT to do more advance projects, still not sure who it is, and they decided that whatever they are making is valuable enough to not need the CoCG bonus, or are too short on permits to be able to spare one where they can get a CoCG bonus [16-Aug-23 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Maybe. [16-Aug-23 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: I've found 17 potential companies using their bases on the planet with a majority industry that can pertain to higher-end processes. [16-Aug-23 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: PSI 3acd18d1 [16-Aug-23 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: PSI b4637cd5 [16-Aug-23 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: PSI ccfa1e06 [16-Aug-23 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: PSI 4b1a42e7 [16-Aug-23 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: PSI 1127f36f [16-Aug-23 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: PSI d454450d [16-Aug-23 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: PSI e898b805 [16-Aug-23 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: PSI b4df2d6b [16-Aug-23 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: PSI ef124246 [16-Aug-23 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: PSI db548c3a [16-Aug-23 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: PSI df5655d5 [16-Aug-23 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: those are planetary plot #'s, btw [16-Aug-23 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: PSI f218eda3 [16-Aug-23 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: PSI 0c03b88e [16-Aug-23 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: PSI a77b39f8 [16-Aug-23 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: PSI 641926db [16-Aug-23 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: PSI 2bdcb739 [16-Aug-23 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: as you can see, it's could be the 1 odd-ball who's using engineers+ with those industries, or a bunch of them :/ [16-Aug-23 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: Nuke them all [16-Aug-23 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Funnily enough, going through all of those plots lends some appreciation to what's happening on the planet. Iv'e found maybe 6 fuel refining operations, something like the same amount for resource extractions. [16-Aug-23 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: No electronics, figures. [16-Aug-23 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ArcturusRex** deleted this message.* [16-Aug-23 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Of those listed being under the Chemistry, Construction, Manufacturing and Metallurgy industries, none of them make any sense due to Avalon's lack of resource density, and of competing planets (Nova Honshu, Berthier) being just a couple of jumps away. They're also anth-thetical to what those needing market funds would actually do on a planet like Avalon to get profits. [16-Aug-23 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I do mininal FF refining here, but mostly food industries. Have only Pioneers at the moment [16-Aug-23 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: yeah, no. Only those who had majority of their business here in one of the 4 listed categories, I posted on. :) [16-Aug-23 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: On phone right now, so not gonna go through the plot numbers you put haha [16-Aug-23 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Food Industies, Fuel Refining, and Resource Extraction (for C or mineral inputs to respective processes) make sense on Avalon. The outliers have likely setup massive plants that require large shipments in to maintain. If you weed out those who are large enough to do so, you might be able to figure out who's needing the engineers. [16-Aug-23 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: The APEX numbers should be helpful in that. GLHF XD [16-Aug-23 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: Is there a trick for getting COPY to work from a chat dialog? [16-Aug-23 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Ctrl+C before you let go of the mouse? [16-Aug-23 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: ooh, sneaky! [17-Aug-23 04:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: neat, didn't know that one myself [17-Aug-23 04:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: my guess why people would do some of these less common uses on Avalon is that want to use a glass STL ship to supply the base here instead of a full FTL ship [17-Aug-23 04:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: used to be a major concern back before the universe unlocked access to scientists, as without them, you can't make FTL ships, this was before governor programs were a thing [17-Aug-23 04:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: also back before steam release [17-Aug-23 04:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: people planned out large parts of their empires around glass STL ships, or lots of shipping contracts [17-Aug-23 04:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: some of those bases could be holdovers from then, and the person just never converted them to something else [17-Aug-23 04:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: it's also whyt the planet Cicre has a level 10 university, and 48% scientist unemployment, basically, a bunch of rich players decided to try and force the growth of scientists the slow way, and it worked, was very expensive, but it worked [17-Aug-23 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: If memory serves, Proxion and Circe both tried to get the first scientists, but then Circe just ran away with it as SNF just plowed resources into scientists [17-Aug-23 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: @deniedclimax had fun passing cash back and forth with ya [17-Aug-23 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: @worvand likewise :) [18-Aug-23 02:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: I couldn't remember who it was, I was new enough at the time I just didn't care, but it was all anyone was talking about for a week so I noticed it [18-Aug-23 02:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: :0 bazdakka was new once? [18-Aug-23 02:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: did dinosours roam promitor? [18-Aug-23 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: was it an ocean world? [18-Aug-23 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: yes, this was back when open plots appeared on the planet sometimes [18-Aug-23 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: we herded them there, and kept them on the unbuilt space of newbie bases when all plots were claimed [18-Aug-23 02:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: so they ate eachother in the battle arenas yall put togeather. wheres the footage that stuff will sell [18-Aug-23 02:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: then straight to the INCs [18-Aug-23 02:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: there is your entertainment datacores [18-Aug-23 05:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrSnowman** left.* [18-Aug-23 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: As I recall, there was a planet going for scientists in each region (Circe, Boucher, Phobos, and Proxion), but Proxion and Circe were the only ones really in contention for first. Boucher was on the back foot because it didn't start very early and was only really OIKOS doing it, and while Phobos had a broader coalition building scientists there was a degree of pride about investing more efficiently (which meant far less was invested into it than the frontrunners). Proxion got the early lead as the first one to start growing a scientist, but SNF overtook them quite rapidly with Circe once they started pouring resources into it as per their plan. [18-Aug-23 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: Then something like the second available scientist on Circe was vultured by someone else, and an update came out that not only made getting scientists far easier (introducing programs) but actually contained an exploit that made generating higher tier pops trivial (instead of the Education program multiplying the base education rate, it added to it). [18-Aug-23 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DiggingLake**: The combination led to a lot of the players involved in leading the race on both Proxion and Circe to lose interest in the game and stop playing, from what I understand. [18-Aug-23 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Nice history lesson :] [18-Aug-23 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: Ship flying Avalon > HRT, 350 t / 400 m3 free. Leaving 30m [18-Aug-23 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I'll make you some contracts. [18-Aug-23 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Ty for lore @DiggingLake [19-Aug-23 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***loaf_uh_bread** left.* [19-Aug-23 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sir_Laffsalot** joined.* [19-Aug-23 12:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gasgano**: Also flying to HRT, got 2690t/785m3 free space [19-Aug-23 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Still available Gasgano? [19-Aug-23 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gasgano** deleted this message.* [19-Aug-23 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Alright I'll send you a few contracts :] [19-Aug-23 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gasgano**: As long as I can fit them - sure :) [19-Aug-23 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gasgano**: *still available - accidentaly deleted msg :P [19-Aug-23 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Appeciated [19-Aug-23 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gasgano**: Leaving in 30-60 min [19-Aug-23 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gasgano**: still got 2539t/726m3 [19-Aug-23 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nanny** joined.* [19-Aug-23 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: wtf? why are rats in hrt so much? [19-Aug-23 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: RAT.IC1 [19-Aug-23 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Swanada is keeping them up for the time being [19-Aug-23 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: guess they are trying to make the market rise. too bad. appearntly theres a report that deflation will be happening soon [19-Aug-23 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ship going leaving to promitor if anyone needs something moved. leaving in 24 hours or until over 50% full. currently 2000t/m3 available [20-Aug-23 07:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ashes**: if anyone happens to have a little PE.IC1 on site, I've posted an AD on the local market [20-Aug-23 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Suskueve**: are there any other worth while planets to set up foor processors at? Im not looking to expand them right now, but i got avalon maxed out so id like to look a bit into the possibility [20-Aug-23 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ChristoAmor**: VH-192c is close by and otherwise useless, no COGC yet [20-Aug-23 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ashes**: FIO shows a dozen other planets with COGC set to Food-making, probably one of those. [20-Aug-23 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: Norwick was my second choice of FP planet for COF-production [20-Aug-23 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: which is at Antares space [20-Aug-23 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Suskueve**: ooh that looks pretty good [20-Aug-23 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: I wouldn't go to Norwick atm..... [20-Aug-23 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: There's a 1k PIO shortage, and it looks like it's only going to get worse XD [20-Aug-23 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Anyways, you can drop FP's anywhere. You'll be missing out on a COGC bonus, but doing such opens up alot more ground if you want to boost your production volume. [20-Aug-23 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: cogc bonus vs fuel costs [20-Aug-23 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: i want more WAR storage, anyone else? [20-Aug-23 06:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: woot now i can have 3 warehouses :0 [20-Aug-23 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Siick. Thanks Worv :] [21-Aug-23 12:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Geez, Antares station is literally overflowing with water, meanwihle at Hortus, we only have ~50k units on ask. [21-Aug-23 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: I hope you all have a nice reserve of it, as it seems we're getting another 2-week drought period..... again. [21-Aug-23 02:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: dought? what happened? [21-Aug-23 02:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Magmadar** joined.* [21-Aug-23 05:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: no idea, I think he's just commenting on the H2O price rising right now [21-Aug-23 05:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: could also be a reference to everyone flipping towards RAT production right now, causing an increase in demand for water [21-Aug-23 06:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: possibly but water was going up before the RAT war [21-Aug-23 06:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: luckily I'm self-sufficent xD [21-Aug-23 06:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: same [21-Aug-23 06:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: same [21-Aug-23 06:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: though having now seen the prices, I think it'll be a case of the price will be slower to make a correction due to everyone jumpingon the RAT bandwagon right now, it wil fix itself, but may take a while... [21-Aug-23 06:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: holy cow i didnt even realize RAT went up [21-Aug-23 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: lol, it's been a major topic for the last few days [21-Aug-23 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: 1 guy is holding the market almost to ransom, we're not sure why at this point... [21-Aug-23 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: I'm usually disconnected from the happenings on the weekend, usually come in to stock and send ships [21-Aug-23 06:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: What happens if we just feed him? [21-Aug-23 06:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: fair, I think it was before the weekend this started though [21-Aug-23 06:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: he places more orders [21-Aug-23 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: interesting [21-Aug-23 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: and he's a fairly active player, so once an order is filled, he'll have a new one up fairly quickly [21-Aug-23 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ashes**: production will outpace him eventually, then RAT prices will crash [21-Aug-23 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: he's basically just the market maker rn [21-Aug-23 06:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: yeah, and he's holding a very small spread between prices, if it lasts a few more days, I can see a lot of fallout happening across the entire market as a result of this [21-Aug-23 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: i guess thats the benefit of having fuck you money [21-Aug-23 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: this will drag the price of everything else up (quite a bit) [21-Aug-23 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: pretty much [21-Aug-23 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: i'm nearly self sufficient for reasons like this [21-Aug-23 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: same [21-Aug-23 06:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: but some of the advance materials I get in will be effected, and some of them are used to make basic materials [21-Aug-23 06:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: but i might build an extra couple FPs to make use of my overstock of my agri goods lol [21-Aug-23 06:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: such like? [21-Aug-23 06:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: mostly things like LST for NS production (I make my own NS, but need to buy LST for it), same with N, I buy raw resources in a lot of cases and do all the production myself [21-Aug-23 06:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: oh i see, didnt you have js-572 for lst? [21-Aug-23 06:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: although Bfab prices were already quite high, this will have fallout on those, while I make my own, it'll force those even closer to the upper MM price [21-Aug-23 06:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: yeah, but that guy bases his price of the CX, yes, he is still a lot cheaper than the CX, to the point it's worth the trip [21-Aug-23 06:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ashes**: they already are, BBH is practically at MM sale price [21-Aug-23 06:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: my lines are fairly safe, but some of the advance stuff I'm trying to set up (for ship building), I still haven't secured my own supply of [21-Aug-23 06:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: i see [21-Aug-23 06:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: a lot of other people haven't got all their supply lines sorted yet, so there will be fallout for them, pushing prices up down the line [21-Aug-23 06:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: a price spike like this will effect everything eventually (if it lasts long enough), it'll just take a bit to go through the system [21-Aug-23 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: Yeah I can see that being an issue [21-Aug-23 06:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: and of course, this is artificial demand, as soon as he runs out of money (if that happens), or he pulls those orders down, the price will then crash, but it'll take longer for effected prices to go back down, since everyone would have set up RAT production to take advantage of the spike [21-Aug-23 06:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: hopefully he gets bored sooner rather than later [21-Aug-23 06:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: hopefully [21-Aug-23 06:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: or course, he could be doing this to delibrately cause a market crash afterwards, since RAT prices were already rising, and while I like them that higher, they shouldn't be that high, when I started, RAT price on HRT sat around 45 ICA and was profitable, since everything else was cheap [21-Aug-23 06:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: RATs were at 45? [21-Aug-23 06:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: or 145? [21-Aug-23 06:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: steam release was such a huge shock to the market it never recovered from it, and the raised prices became the new normal [21-Aug-23 06:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: 45 [21-Aug-23 06:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: people had mathed out that at below 40, it was better just to sell GRN to the lower MM [21-Aug-23 06:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: i see [21-Aug-23 06:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: when was that [21-Aug-23 06:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: steam release? over a year ago now [21-Aug-23 06:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: ohh okay [21-Aug-23 06:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: i discovered this game via browser, but realized later it had a steam option too [21-Aug-23 06:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: same, I was one of the pre steam players [21-Aug-23 06:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: cool thats dope [21-Aug-23 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: it's why I occasionally share stories that basically start as a 'back in my day we had...' (grandpa Simpson voice* [21-Aug-23 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: lmao [21-Aug-23 06:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: I've been around a while, and saw what it was like before a lot of features were added to the game, they have changed how a lot of things are done now [21-Aug-23 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: have you been thru a reset? [21-Aug-23 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: no, I was one of very few people back then to not reset [21-Aug-23 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: back then, the FAQ wasn't a thing, the spreadsheet with starter planets wasn't set up, government programs weren't around, ship upgrading didn't exist, and there were no planets with scientists on them [21-Aug-23 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: that's quite the difference [21-Aug-23 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: it was accepted that 80% or more people would need to reset [21-Aug-23 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: im glad to not have needed to [21-Aug-23 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: oh, and ghost plots weren't a thing [21-Aug-23 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: whats a ghost plot [21-Aug-23 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: like if a planet is already full? [21-Aug-23 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: like the +# on promitor? [21-Aug-23 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: new players can start a base on any planet, even if there is no plots open [21-Aug-23 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: oh ok yeah i figured [21-Aug-23 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: it's basically so starter planets can always be settled on [21-Aug-23 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: makes sense [21-Aug-23 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: back then, people competed for spots on Promitor [21-Aug-23 06:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: that makes sense too lol [21-Aug-23 06:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: I was lucky, started while 2 were open and grabbed one of them [21-Aug-23 06:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: where did you start? [21-Aug-23 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: now, the only people that will ever get a spot on Promitor are new players setting up their first base there [21-Aug-23 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: Promitor [21-Aug-23 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: oh before ghost plots [21-Aug-23 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: for sure [21-Aug-23 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: the lack of space on Promitor meant that other planets that weren't as good had to be used as well to make RAT [21-Aug-23 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: oh, base expansion also wasn't a thing, it was 1 permit, 1 base with 500 area, that was it [21-Aug-23 06:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: oh damn [21-Aug-23 06:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: so yeah, no way Promitor/Avalon could keep up with the whole universes RAT demand, other planets got used for it as well, this resulted in BEN having almost the same price for RAT that HRT did on average [21-Aug-23 06:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: since it was the opposite CX, it made the most sense since it was furthest from HRT, there was also a large corp working on setting up a huge chem setup in the area, and they subsidized a planet to set up HYFs on and another in system to set up FP on [21-Aug-23 06:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: also, a lot of planets that have CoCGs now didn't have them, or any other infrastructure for that matter such as LMs, warehouses, or admin centers [21-Aug-23 06:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: thats interesting, i was thinking of setting up an HYF + H2O set of planets [21-Aug-23 06:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: look up Milways, about halfway between BEN and ANT [21-Aug-23 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: there is another planet in system that has the other half of the CoCG combo [21-Aug-23 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: not sure where they get their water for it though [21-Aug-23 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: is there a way to look up planets via name? [21-Aug-23 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: PLI into a buffer [21-Aug-23 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: if you don't add a planet code, it allows a search function to search for planet names [21-Aug-23 06:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: oh cool [21-Aug-23 06:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: between Promitor not being as powerful as it is now (more people now, base expansion, etc), a corp setting up a full HYF setup in a region to support them later on but not having yet built themselves up, etc, they had very low RAT prices in the BEN region [21-Aug-23 06:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: because of a lower tier universe in general, ANT and BEN suffered a lot, the goods those regions were good at just weren't in high enough demand to justify selling stuff there [21-Aug-23 06:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: oh isee [21-Aug-23 06:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: how does a new CX get put into place? [21-Aug-23 06:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: like if people wanted to setup shop in the far edges? [21-Aug-23 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: the 2 extras were dev added, it was part of a competition they held [21-Aug-23 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: ohh okay [21-Aug-23 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: basically, they knew they didn't have the functionality to allow player built CXs, but they could add them as devs, so they held a competition to develop areas of the map, players would decide the regions to be contested, HUB and ARC are the winners [21-Aug-23 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: i see isee [21-Aug-23 07:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: back then, C was a lot less valuable than it is now, and was almost always at the lower MM price [21-Aug-23 07:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: but as people have moved up the tech tree, products that have C as an early stage got more and more common, resulting in the strong C market you see today [21-Aug-23 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: yeah i went in on that early [21-Aug-23 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: manufacturing was also a lot less powerful, since the only goods made worth anything in that whole field was OVE and PE [21-Aug-23 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: then when i saw it dipped down i went out [21-Aug-23 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: but now i need a lot of it lmao [21-Aug-23 07:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: fuel refining was held by 2 people that brought he price so low no one else could get into the market, when they left (both at the same time), the market for that went absolutely nuts... [21-Aug-23 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: i refine SF and Im surprised how profitable it is [21-Aug-23 07:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: while I'm sure your aware that people often use goods to change currencies, the most common one back then to do so with was fuel, this meant that pfuel in BEN was often more expensive than in other regions as people would sell goods at BEN, have nothing to buy there, so grab more fuel and bring that back with them, it happened so often that it caused fuel in BEN to be more expensive than anywhere else... [21-Aug-23 07:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: that maeks sense lol [21-Aug-23 07:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: when i was f2p for a bit i was wondering how to do the same, but i usually came up with a plan to what i'd purchase on the way back [21-Aug-23 07:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: yeah, this was more of a case, BEN and ANT had nothing worth anything since no high tier industry existed [21-Aug-23 07:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: oh okay [21-Aug-23 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: everything was more expensive in those 2 regions due to them not producing anything worth buying [21-Aug-23 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: is that still the case [21-Aug-23 07:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: i dont really travel over there [21-Aug-23 07:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: that and HRT did have a fledging fuel build at the time (same one that exists today, just without the CoCGs), so BEN main export was able to be made in a more active region [21-Aug-23 07:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: no, they both have much better setups now [21-Aug-23 07:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bazdakka** deleted this message.* [21-Aug-23 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: oh okay [21-Aug-23 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bazdakka** deleted this message.* [21-Aug-23 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: I botched that so badly I'm going to rewrite that [21-Aug-23 07:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: lmao [21-Aug-23 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: so, while the goods on ANT and BEN tend to focus on higher tier goods, there is now actual demand for those goods, and the markets there are actually healthy [21-Aug-23 07:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: ah [21-Aug-23 07:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: a lot of tthe chem based goods are made out in the BEN region, while a lot of higher tier metals are made in the ANT region (or MOR region, but they have different specialties) [21-Aug-23 07:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: ok [21-Aug-23 07:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: interesting [21-Aug-23 07:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: i literally havent gone farther than MOR or ANT [21-Aug-23 07:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: I've only gone to ANT like twice [21-Aug-23 07:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: MOR has good FE, and has poor FE, FE is better for Bfabs, ANT has good AL, MOR has poor AL, AL is also used in Bfabs, but not as good, but is also used in Lfabs [21-Aug-23 07:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: things like that [21-Aug-23 07:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: yeah i see [21-Aug-23 07:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: yes, both regions have access to the other metal, but those regions are where there is easy access on cheap planets to those metals [21-Aug-23 07:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: for sure, ima go on break , ididnt want to leave you hanging [21-Aug-23 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: thanks for the info and history grandp [21-Aug-23 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: because of the low tier universe, and lack of programs to help grow higher tier pops, very few people even moved up to settler tier production, so Bfabs were 80% of the demand [21-Aug-23 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: grandpa lol [21-Aug-23 07:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: and their was almost no Rfab or Afab demand, which meant little need for chem to make them [21-Aug-23 07:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: thats my issue rn, making epo and stuff for rfabs [21-Aug-23 07:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: now, their is Rfab and Afab need, so chem is needed to make a lot of them (look up EPO to see what I mean), this gave BEN a nice start, while a lot of high tier metals started coming out of ANT [21-Aug-23 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: that, combined with no ftl ship production (needed scientists), or ship upgrading, meant everyone was stuck with their 2 starter ships, and glass stl ships [21-Aug-23 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: so location was even more important than it was now, people had to figure out how to get by with just that, 4-6 bases was the limit most people could mange with just their ships, means a lot of older players mentored newer players in exchange for shipping their stuff (I miss that system, it was nice, even if I never benefited from it, I figured out a lot of things from chat, so never needed to be mentored) [21-Aug-23 07:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: anyway, I'm off to bed, if you want more grandpa simpson like stories, let me know [21-Aug-23 07:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: lmao thanks man [21-Aug-23 07:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: or anyone else reading this for that matter [21-Aug-23 07:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: that or if any other older players want to share stories of things they remember, turn this chat into the sounding like the old folks home with stories about how things used to be (how many pre steam release players are reading this?) [21-Aug-23 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: heck, back then, the HRTriangle was a new idea, I remember when someone was contacting me about setting it all up and everything, I was still to new to actually do much back then though [21-Aug-23 07:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: these days, the HRTriangle is the core of a lot of peoples empire, at least on this planet [21-Aug-23 07:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: i can see that [21-Aug-23 07:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: I started the Adalina and Berthier builds for branching in constructor from a Promitor start, it was known, but I was the first to really make it work (and even then I got the order wrong, going Berthier first) [21-Aug-23 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: that doestn work out well [21-Aug-23 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: so these core ideas of where to expand weren't known back then like they were today [21-Aug-23 07:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: yeah, I made it work, and told people the correct way to do that build, and I know of quite a few that followed in my footsteps [21-Aug-23 07:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: back then, anyone wanting to get into construction was settling Montem and Vallis from the Promitor start [21-Aug-23 07:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: yeah i followed you too [21-Aug-23 07:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: I saw that [21-Aug-23 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: anyway, I need to go to bed, it's 12.30am and I have work tomorrow, I'm going to regret staying up this late as is, but it gives you an idea of how long I've been in the game [21-Aug-23 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: Shipping contracts posted to the Local Market, Avalon > HRT Station [21-Aug-23 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: mmm, yummy contracts. [21-Aug-23 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: rat and dw for sale on ava:) [21-Aug-23 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: no more it is not [21-Aug-23 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user66ce8be830** left.* [21-Aug-23 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: there was a long running debate of which region was worse for players, lasted months [22-Aug-23 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: shipping some stuffs from HRT [22-Aug-23 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: I'll pick up 2 to Prom, the rest of my ships are booked for most of the rest of the week. [22-Aug-23 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SurvivorBob** joined.* [22-Aug-23 06:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: Planetfall! [22-Aug-23 06:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: The Loftwing's children propagate, and wish for peaceful coexistence with all. [22-Aug-23 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: as long as you agree that workers have no rights and any worker that tries to bring about worker rights is thrown into the nearest incinerator [22-Aug-23 11:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***P-Money** joined.* [22-Aug-23 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Hi everyone [22-Aug-23 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ello [22-Aug-23 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Heya [22-Aug-23 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I just built a base here because I learned about the food industries campaign [22-Aug-23 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Wish I had known sooner [22-Aug-23 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: they suppressed this knowledge at promitor [22-Aug-23 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ya welcome to the exclusive club [22-Aug-23 11:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: 1/246 [22-Aug-23 11:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: not everyone on the planet talks here so the number is much lower [22-Aug-23 11:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: also thats 246 empty plots [22-Aug-23 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: oh right [22-Aug-23 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: only like 174 plots occupied. [22-Aug-23 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: 1/174 😎 [22-Aug-23 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: damn, refreshed my page and lost pmmg extended [22-Aug-23 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ahh new version. [22-Aug-23 11:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Yeah, I think mainly reworking the way it detects stuff. Does it like FIO now [22-Aug-23 11:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: cool. i was just looking for patch notes. [22-Aug-23 11:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: legit have a hard time playing without pmmg extended. it adds so many QOL stuff [22-Aug-23 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Indeed, very convenient [22-Aug-23 11:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: uhh workforce is broken on it now :/ unless 57.6 + 17 somehow equals 510.1 [22-Aug-23 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: From what I heard, this is 1.8.0 and they're going to be releasing 1.8.1 in another day or so [22-Aug-23 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ahh kk [22-Aug-23 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Not sure if that's a known issue though... [22-Aug-23 11:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: reading the discord, it looks like the workforce page really bugs out pmmg right now [22-Aug-23 11:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: known bug [23-Aug-23 05:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: I wouldn't say that PMMG+ adds much functionality. It's data-driven analytics offer some benefit if you have not much mathematical understanding of the underpinning cyclical mechanics inherent in this game. [23-Aug-23 05:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: But, what is very decent regarding its features, is its XIT FIN buffer --- very useful in cross checking figures that Prunner provides. [23-Aug-23 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: finally capped my 3 permits on avalon. 10 more fps and a bunch of storage [23-Aug-23 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Niice [23-Aug-23 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: woah that's a lot of FP [23-Aug-23 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: What are you mainly making? Noticed you're handling a lotta water [23-Aug-23 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: I mean, that's a lotta GIN, right? :D [23-Aug-23 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: 26 frms on prom, 30 rigs on boucher, 2 fer, 35 fp and 5 wpls on ava and then a plastic and prefab2 plant on phantasm. specifically just kinda doing whatever floats my boat from day to day. seems easy to get lost in weird pyramid schemes of horizontal production... [23-Aug-23 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: operation like this leaves alot more room for versatility and to flow with a changing market [23-Aug-23 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: have seen enough people complain about how their 1 or 2 pinnacle operations being thrashed by manipulation, when it seems like a better idea to just...play the long game [23-Aug-23 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: I'm a big proponent of triple permits per planet, rather than being on 15 planets [23-Aug-23 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Phantasm still a 1 permit base, that's where my energy will go next after my water surplus clears a bit more space in my storages [23-Aug-23 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: LOL I may be seeing the "triple permit" light before too long [23-Aug-23 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: Especially in CX systems [23-Aug-23 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: right I can't speak to elsewhere, but at least in VH feels real nice [23-Aug-23 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: @Roh reason i like pmmg extended is because of the different QOL stuff, shows price per unit in contracts, color codes contracts, adds ETA timers to ships and route scheduling, changes some item colors so they are easier to tell apart, in game calculator and will tell you how many days left of supplies you have left without going to a different page. [23-Aug-23 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: Does anyone have two spare BTAs handy? I never imagined that my workers would want windows in their habitations! [23-Aug-23 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: Local Market ad for 1500 ICA each [23-Aug-23 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: Thanks! [23-Aug-23 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: rule with an iron fist. don't let your workers have 'opinions' [23-Aug-23 09:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: i just took 2 of the windows off my hab and sold it to him [23-Aug-23 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: couple ads up for dw and rat :) [23-Aug-23 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: do fancy addons account for lm prices too? shit be adding up when you're selling coffee [23-Aug-23 11:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: wtf why so many 1 coffee orders? that listing fee got you good [23-Aug-23 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: maybe someone just wanted 1 :3 [23-Aug-23 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: are macros to click fulfill against tos? [23-Aug-23 11:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: asking fgor a friend ofc [23-Aug-23 11:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: for [24-Aug-23 12:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***worvand** deleted this message.* [24-Aug-23 12:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: tell your friend to not get caught [24-Aug-23 12:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: yes, devs want low automated game interactions [24-Aug-23 12:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: i should say no auto game interactions, might want to tell your friend [24-Aug-23 12:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: but damn it would be helpful in some cases [24-Aug-23 12:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: i wouldnt here if it broke rules tbh lol it's not that big of a deal, but if, id gladly sell everything 1 each xd [24-Aug-23 12:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: lol i only saw it on the agreement at the beginning of the game. they probably dont go after it unless its abused [24-Aug-23 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: but damn 53$ to post ech coffee at 469 each really cuts into profits imo [24-Aug-23 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Right, click counters probably arent on their short list atm [24-Aug-23 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: there is a buffer anyway.. [24-Aug-23 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: anwayyy [24-Aug-23 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: naa they probably dont want auto trades and arbitages to take over, those will put some players who like that part out [24-Aug-23 12:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: ah thats true didnt think of it like that [24-Aug-23 12:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: i just wish we could preplan some actions to occur within like 24 hours, like ship arrives, i want it to be preplanned to dump, load up certain items and get going to the next location. [24-Aug-23 12:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: basically give something pending orders on a certain condition that has to be setup every time. [24-Aug-23 12:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: that way i can turn ships around even while im asleep [24-Aug-23 12:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: this game could get away with a rudimentary coding interface to pre plan stuff like that..this game is that..kinda game [24-Aug-23 12:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: but then you're not getting as much screen time ofc [24-Aug-23 12:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: and this is a beautiful game [24-Aug-23 12:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: next to minecraft, eve, and wow. longest game ive played [24-Aug-23 12:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: it will overtake wow soon tho XD [24-Aug-23 12:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: sadly [24-Aug-23 12:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: entertainment is just tough these days [24-Aug-23 12:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: heard about AAA devs yelling at baldurs gate 3 devs for releasing a working product on launch? [24-Aug-23 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: saying that it will cause an unobtainable standard that customers will demand? [24-Aug-23 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: bryh I had a friend that raved about the early access 2 years ago [24-Aug-23 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: its crazy the standard is so..lol [24-Aug-23 12:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: its all over the news now that devs are mad about the game releasing complete with no microtransactions [24-Aug-23 12:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: mind blowing [24-Aug-23 12:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: quality devs are fleeting. [24-Aug-23 12:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: releasing a good game. I've considered getting it but think itd suck me in too much [24-Aug-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: lol. if you get it and hate the control scheme, theres few mods that change the camera and controls to that of a 3rd person rpg [24-Aug-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Was just talking about this with my brother earlier today...standards for the industry have shifted far enough that when a fully functional game gets released everyone praises it except the competing companies [24-Aug-23 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: right [24-Aug-23 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ya. and that really sucks. i used to preorder games back in xbox and early xbox 360 days, not any more [24-Aug-23 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Never know what you're going to get [24-Aug-23 12:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: i usually dont get a game till at least a week after release so i can see reviews [24-Aug-23 12:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: And even if it's okay for todays standards, spending 70 bucks on a new game just doesn't feel right [24-Aug-23 12:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: agreed, i play indies more than AAA games now [24-Aug-23 12:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: AAA no long means AAA quality. its just big studio that is trying to get money [24-Aug-23 12:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Just AAA pricing :p [24-Aug-23 12:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ya. [24-Aug-23 12:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: game engine companies are loving the indie focused takeover tho. they getting alot more money and pushing their tech further faster [24-Aug-23 12:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Indeeed [24-Aug-23 12:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: so how do we fix the industry? [24-Aug-23 12:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: saw an AI that can make 1/2 the next Frame before the info comes in to make it. shit predicts based on last few ones [24-Aug-23 12:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: there it is ai games [24-Aug-23 12:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Im in [24-Aug-23 12:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Jeeez [24-Aug-23 12:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: seen the AI anti cheat? [24-Aug-23 12:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: without seeing any files, it can tell when someone turns on cheats because their abilities instantly change [24-Aug-23 12:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: no but that is scary to think about, I can imagine XD [24-Aug-23 12:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: ive always thought that'd be easyt to monitor anyway [24-Aug-23 12:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ya, its going to be in the next few AAA titles, like COD and stuff. [24-Aug-23 12:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: usually theres a time variation which i'd think would be easy to net catch [24-Aug-23 12:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: its already been announced. [24-Aug-23 12:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I'm imaging someone letting their older brother play an FPS game only for them to get immediately kicked haha [24-Aug-23 12:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: i was also XD [24-Aug-23 12:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: that ai can even tell when someone makes a new account because it stores their gameplay fingerprint [24-Aug-23 12:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: time to go move to mexico [24-Aug-23 12:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: this ai shit is rapidly advancing. but we still got a lawyer who lost his job and law certification because of chatgpt making stuff up [24-Aug-23 12:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Crazy stuff people are going to be able to do with tech soon [24-Aug-23 12:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Crazy stuff already...but yeah, rapid advancements [24-Aug-23 12:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: just dont put on the headset lol [24-Aug-23 12:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: im hoping we can get some restrictions put in. having artists and writers lose their jobs because of greedy companys using ai doesnt fly with me. [24-Aug-23 12:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: heard about a game studio that under the table started training an ai with art that its current artists was making so they could fire them all [24-Aug-23 12:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: We just give it all up and let ai take over every decision and job [24-Aug-23 12:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: lol [24-Aug-23 12:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Trying to restrict something like that after it gets as easily accessible and widespread at it can would be difficult [24-Aug-23 12:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Maan, I wouldn't mind some ai digging holes for me in this heat [24-Aug-23 12:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: that shit exhists [24-Aug-23 12:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: remote controlled diggers, drills, and farming equipment exhist. [24-Aug-23 12:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: just too expensive for company to consider :/ [24-Aug-23 12:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: also children in 3rd world countries [24-Aug-23 12:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Someone on one of the jobsites had a basically remote control excavator, wacky thing [24-Aug-23 12:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ya, thing is ive seen setups where they can control those from states away [24-Aug-23 12:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Jeez [24-Aug-23 12:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: hell we got surgery happening from different countries with remote control bots [24-Aug-23 12:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Oh man just noticed the time. Was fun talking about this stuff [24-Aug-23 12:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: cya [24-Aug-23 12:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Good night Mr. Worv [24-Aug-23 12:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: huh just reallized according to prun, 0.2 + 0.21 = 0.55 strange [24-Aug-23 12:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: 0.55+0.35=0.6 that one is even stranger. [24-Aug-23 01:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: if anyone wonders, those are the weight values for crafting a single FIM and MEA [24-Aug-23 02:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Harvey_UK** joined.* [24-Aug-23 02:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Kuben**: effective marketing on the LM @DaniedClimax ^_^ [24-Aug-23 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: wow, you found a game habit from before my time, though I had heard of it, the automated trading [24-Aug-23 05:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: so the story I got told happened back when there was no minimum difference in prices, even 1K objects could be bid in 0.01 increments, this became known as penny wars [24-Aug-23 05:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: so, while I was around before they limited it to 3 significant decimals, this behavior had stopped before then anyway, the story I was told was that a few people made basic scripts that checked their listed CX orders vs others, if they were best price, nothing happened, but if someone undercut them or bid higher, it cancelled their order and relisted it 0.01 better than the new one, but it wouldn't list the whole amount, because there is a limit to how often you can cancel a order on the CX for the same good each day (eg you can only cancel RAT on HRT 5 times per day, after that, wait a day before you cancel again), so what these bots did was list part of the order, if the other person cancelled and relisted the whole order, the bot would again list part of the order, until the person listing his whole order hit is limit of cancels per day, at which point the bot would list the remaining part of the order (and cancel what it could), meaning they had the best price on the CX by 0.01 [24-Aug-23 05:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: sorry for the wall of text... I should have formatted that better... [24-Aug-23 05:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: anyway, the game was a lot smaller back then, people realized that it was making the game less fun for everyone (including the people with the bots), so stopped doing it, while later, the devs introduced the 3 significant decimals to further limit this practice [24-Aug-23 05:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: it's why if I'm going to beat a price on the CX to undercut or overbid someone, I do it by a notable more notable amount, as the memory was still fresh for others when I started and the behavior was somewhat looked down on [24-Aug-23 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: @worvard you can batch shipment jobs by seperating them with some rented warehousing, being separate from your base storage --- its just a little tedious, but it gives you a chance to double check what items you'll just be quickly flicking over to your ships when they get to a base. [24-Aug-23 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: why have I never thought of doing that, shame I can't do that at the CX warehouse. I tend to use that one to store a lot of stuff I don't need right now. [24-Aug-23 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: always a treat to get a history lesson from @bazdakka [24-Aug-23 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Agreed :] [24-Aug-23 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: @roh i already do that, what i was talking about was being able to setup commands to occur when you cant be online. [24-Aug-23 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: @bazdakka i was around whent hey implemented the 1% change minimum. that 1 cent change on multi thousand costing items caused the market to move very slowly. that stuff sucked [24-Aug-23 09:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: :facepalm: Does anyone have 1 BTA on Avalon they are willing to sell? I posted a Local Market ad for market maker price [24-Aug-23 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: thanks, @worvand [24-Aug-23 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: np i keep alot on hand [24-Aug-23 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: I should learn to do the same :D [24-Aug-23 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: i have everything ill need for the next 30 days in inventory, including repairs, takes alot of STO to fit it all [24-Aug-23 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: i have 5 storage expansions built XD [24-Aug-23 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: gee whiz, 25000 units? [24-Aug-23 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: 26.5k capacity. cant forget the CM capacity [24-Aug-23 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: having alot of supplies means i can spend longer inbetween resupplies and stock up on price dips [24-Aug-23 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: right. 3 permits? [24-Aug-23 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: 2 rn [24-Aug-23 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: i think. damn one second [24-Aug-23 09:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ya 3 but not full [24-Aug-23 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: ah. At first I thought single permits where the way to go, but as I start to use up my shipping capacity, I see the wisdom of just making bigger bases [24-Aug-23 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ya single permits are more efficient, but put strain on your shipping. [24-Aug-23 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: and my spreadsheeting [24-Aug-23 09:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: lol [24-Aug-23 09:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: i built a ship that only does STL stuff in hortus [24-Aug-23 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: really helps free up your other ships and is much cheaper to build [24-Aug-23 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: good idea [25-Aug-23 04:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: agreed, I'm thinking with the next base planned in system I might even add another glass STL ship in system, let me run slower burns between planets when it's quite [25-Aug-23 04:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: I just got into the habbit of keeping a bunch of every prefab I use to repair buildings on the planet, doesn't work very well at higher tiers, it's very expensive to set up [25-Aug-23 04:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: as to shipping, it's why some older players sometimes build shipyards in odd systems sometimes (says that planning to drop a shipyard in a few months when I can spare Afabs) [25-Aug-23 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: i wish i could do stl ship piggybacking on a FTL ship. would make getting them to their system of work easier [25-Aug-23 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: specialty ships would be interesting, a ship that can tug another ship in ftl and stl for ship rescuing and moving, a asteroid clearing ship that reduces asteroid damage taken to ships where it travels, orbital launch ships that resist launch and landing stresses better and can trade inventories in space but are slow in space. [26-Aug-23 04:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: saw redfall? that shit was so fucked up it was really sad [27-Aug-23 04:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: We sort of have those, but not really.... Ship Drone Repair Bays reduce incoming damage from all source, yet it doesn't "repair" the ship. Stability Systems prevent hard landings on risky planets. Larger fuel/cargo bays allow you to haul more fuel around for whatever purpose. All of those are only viable if you upgrade your STL engines, as they're detrimental towards max acceleration, and thus average travel time. [27-Aug-23 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: no way of clearing asteroids, or trading in space, or hauling other ships, :/ i know the system is new, but ships are very generalized and the only specialization options are cargo bay type and not putting a FTL engine on. [27-Aug-23 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: needs more pew-pew :D [27-Aug-23 11:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: a shuttle would be cool maybe capable of bring small loads to planet so the whole ship doesn't need to land [27-Aug-23 11:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: or maybe something like a long range scanner to make planetary exploration survey from orbit to make them actually useful [28-Aug-23 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ouu shuttle, like something you can add to a ship so it can do inventory trades in orbit with the surface. and love the long range scanner, currently i just auto deny all planet exploration quests. would like a buff to that. [28-Aug-23 02:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: Ya me too once I found out that I had to land to complete them I never took another one [28-Aug-23 02:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: suppling a material, or trade run to the station are just so much simplier and fit in with what im already doing so well [28-Aug-23 02:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TcEnterprize**: Ya I agree except the times it wants grapes and pays half there cost [28-Aug-23 02:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ya had one want MEA for pocket change [28-Aug-23 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: huh never got this one before, contrubute building or upkeep materials to avalon [28-Aug-23 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Got one of those for Montem before :] [28-Aug-23 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: I got one for Avalon. Dropped of 2xDW :D [28-Aug-23 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: *off [28-Aug-23 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Very easy to do for Avalon, whether it's donating a penny or not ;P [28-Aug-23 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Lots of DW and 🐀 easily accessible [28-Aug-23 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Autocorrect turning RATs into a rat emoji... [28-Aug-23 04:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Does anyone need anything shipped between here and promitor? I want to make a trip to promitor soon but figured I'll fill up my ship before I go over there [28-Aug-23 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: If you're still here I could send you with some shipments :] [28-Aug-23 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: yep [28-Aug-23 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: still here [28-Aug-23 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Thank you! [28-Aug-23 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: in case anyone wants to toss on another load I have about 150t left to fill [28-Aug-23 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OneTry**: thanks [28-Aug-23 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: @OneTry do you have something to add on, or did somebody else take the offer before I saw it? [28-Aug-23 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I'm going to take off in like 15-30 minutes if nobody else has anything to ship to promitor [29-Aug-23 03:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Magmadar** left.* [29-Aug-23 07:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: have 680m left going to hrt if anyone needs stuffs moved [29-Aug-23 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: If anyone has a few spare PG, I'm willing to pay 50/u. I posted a local buy ad for it [29-Aug-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: Thankee [29-Aug-23 09:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: your welcome [29-Aug-23 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OneTry**: I thanked to my friend - in wrong window ;) [29-Aug-23 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RealKobold** joined.* [29-Aug-23 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RealKobold**: I have [29-Aug-23 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RealKobold**: A w o k e n [29-Aug-23 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **nanny**: good morning [29-Aug-23 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Hello there :] [29-Aug-23 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **OneTry**: hi :) [30-Aug-23 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: well, that is an interesting pop report, might be about to be a shortage of pioneers soon [30-Aug-23 07:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OneTry**: is there any other way to "donate" PIO than delete BUI? [30-Aug-23 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: well you can invest in popi upkeep [30-Aug-23 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: POPI's fine, it's just that some people have supermaxed their bases here? We're not at 0% unemployment with 15k PIOs imported from elsewhere to pick up the jobs. [30-Aug-23 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: ~14 500-area's worth of production added. assuming going full FP or so. [30-Aug-23 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thewatch** joined.* [30-Aug-23 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Anybody want something shipped to Promitor like RIGHT NOW? [30-Aug-23 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I will be taking off this planet in 20 mins with lots of free space (300t) [30-Aug-23 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Lemme send you some contracts :] [30-Aug-23 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: A contract* [30-Aug-23 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: nice :) [30-Aug-23 06:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Thank you! [30-Aug-23 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: @P-Money all full, or still have space? [30-Aug-23 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: im all full but sorry for the late reply [30-Aug-23 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: no worries :D [30-Aug-23 06:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I'm a hog :o [30-Aug-23 11:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ahantate** joined.* [30-Aug-23 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DavikCo** joined.* [31-Aug-23 12:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: hello avalon [31-Aug-23 12:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: :D im here [31-Aug-23 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: Indeed you are, @DavikCo! [31-Aug-23 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: In record time! [31-Aug-23 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: :D yes [31-Aug-23 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: im glad to be established on multiple planets here [31-Aug-23 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: hopefully soon ill be building starships :D [31-Aug-23 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: Avalon is a good sister planet to Promitor [31-Aug-23 12:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: yes I will bring my stuff from there to here [31-Aug-23 12:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: and then back to the CX [31-Aug-23 12:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: more money for more developed product :D [31-Aug-23 12:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: indeed [31-Aug-23 12:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: How do I make half of my FP make one thing and the other half make another [31-Aug-23 12:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: queue one, then queue the other [31-Aug-23 12:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: I mean I know how to set it initially the issue is repeat orders [31-Aug-23 12:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: so if I question it then will all of one type get made? [31-Aug-23 12:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: que* [31-Aug-23 12:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: There should be a "recurring" button when placing the order [31-Aug-23 12:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: oh [31-Aug-23 12:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: im dumb XD [31-Aug-23 12:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: That button doesn't work when you are on trial subscription [31-Aug-23 12:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: gotcha gotcha [31-Aug-23 12:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: One mistake I made here was building FP's too fast and having a hard time keeping my lines running [31-Aug-23 12:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: :D indeed [31-Aug-23 12:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: I have 16 FP and yes keeping them running will be a challenge till next week [31-Aug-23 12:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: but then ill have enough capital to buy more products at a time [31-Aug-23 12:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: sounds like fun! [31-Aug-23 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: I ended up building 3 Hydroponics farms here on Avalon to supplement Promitor produce [31-Aug-23 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: farms take so much space [31-Aug-23 12:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: but at least produce is light [31-Aug-23 12:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: yep, HYF produces much more per area [31-Aug-23 12:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: but requires NS to run [31-Aug-23 12:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: HYF also ignores fertility [31-Aug-23 12:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: oh thats true [31-Aug-23 12:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: does it still get agri bonus? [31-Aug-23 12:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: yes [31-Aug-23 12:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: just not fertility bonus. but also runs where there is no fertility [31-Aug-23 12:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: thats nice then [31-Aug-23 12:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: There should be a good supply of NS at the CX. Price has been dropping lately [31-Aug-23 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ship making a run to HRT. 1600t/m3 free [31-Aug-23 03:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ship leaving [31-Aug-23 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: ship leaving for promitor with 294t available [31-Aug-23 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: let me know if you want anything shipped to promitor [31-Aug-23 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: You still here? [31-Aug-23 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: yep [31-Aug-23 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Appreciate it, as always :] [31-Aug-23 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: 168t left if anyone else wants to get in soon [31-Aug-23 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: i'm gone [31-Aug-23 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Exobros** joined.* [31-Aug-23 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: P dont leave :< [31-Aug-23 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Shipping to Promitor is open again, please send contracts directly to me :) [31-Aug-23 10:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Holy cow you're quick [31-Aug-23 10:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: what can I say, these 20 food processors eat a ton of agricultural supplies lol [31-Aug-23 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Oh boy, I bet. Only got 12 going myself :] [31-Aug-23 10:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: im also shipping in supplies for building and maintaining more. So I probably have a couple more trips to promitor in the next couple days [31-Aug-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Sounds good, I'll probably have stuff for one of those shipments if I catch ya [31-Aug-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I'm only the #72 RAT producer in this galaxy [31-Aug-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: gotta pump those numbers up. [31-Aug-23 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: Shipping from Avalon > HRT. 300t / 375m free. Departing in 30m [31-Aug-23 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: #78 right here :p [31-Aug-23 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: 24 FPs for me, and it's been a mad scramble to keep them always running [01-Sep-23 12:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: 18 for me. very manageable [01-Sep-23 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Frosty802** deleted this message.* [01-Sep-23 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: 60 FPs :c [01-Sep-23 04:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: @ArcturusRex you just need more ships, or post more shipping ads :P [01-Sep-23 05:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: or bigger ships and just hold more stock at each base so it doesn't run out [01-Sep-23 06:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: I just went with a couple of STOs and a glass STL only ship, it'll occassionally run out to Helion Prime, but most of it's time is spend running Promitor > Avalon > sometime HRT > Promitor [01-Sep-23 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: I fly it fairly fast most of the time, with a quick trip being Promitor > Avalon > Promitor taking 24 hours, a few of them, then as planets cycle away, stop at HRT so it's 36 hours as well dropping off the bulk of the RAT I make [01-Sep-23 07:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: I'm prom -> ava -> hrt rinse and repeat daily [01-Sep-23 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: @Roh Mostly should have built up a stockpile of RAT inputs before laying down all those FPs. Not waiting = having to send lots of little shipments (as ag is produced on Prom), rather than waiting for a few larger shipments [01-Sep-23 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: But a few infusions from the CX helps [01-Sep-23 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: you can try Arc, however if you even try to go to a full permit expansion on FPs, you'll be stretching your two starter ships rather thin. [01-Sep-23 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: i have 2k tonnage capacity available with a turnaround averaging of 2 days available for shipping jobs to my long term partners, including myself, just for Hortus system. Naturally this could include all the other planets of interest, however Avalon is a very hungry monster. [01-Sep-23 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: ::roar:: [01-Sep-23 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: only reason I don't go to HRT every cycle is because sometimes I don't have a full cargo hold of stuff to deliver there, I only go to HRT when the cargo hold can be filled (or there is something I need to pick up at HRT urgently), otherwise I figure, it can wait here till I have enough for a full cargo hold, saves a trip and a small amount of fuel [01-Sep-23 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rpag455** joined.* [02-Sep-23 03:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Don't forget about ship depreciation/damage. A month's worth of operational time translated into repairs for my x8 CX ships, of about 50k last week when I rang repair jobs on all of them. [02-Sep-23 07:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **OneTry**: only 50K? I assume STL ships only [02-Sep-23 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: That was for just the STL ships. I haven't run my FTLs through repairs just yet. [02-Sep-23 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Although it looks like the repairs will be going for just about the same amount. [02-Sep-23 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: (I don't repair at the standard interval of 80%, only when I can get them in before that, 83 and 88% durability for the FTLs atm). [03-Sep-23 12:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vile_Adventurer**: If someone has 4 MCG laying around, I`d be happy to buy it, see LM [03-Sep-23 12:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Gotcha! [03-Sep-23 05:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***bravotron** left.* [04-Sep-23 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sauceaholics** joined.* [04-Sep-23 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I have 25 FPs on Avalon now haha [04-Sep-23 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: It's going to be a constant battle to keep em running at this rate lol [04-Sep-23 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Good luck man [04-Sep-23 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: LOL I'm in the same boat as you, @P-Money (except I'm at 24) [04-Sep-23 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: I found that building a few HYF on Avalon helps [04-Sep-23 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Right now I only have about 18 hours worth of supply; I need these people to hurry up & fulfill these shipping contracts lol [04-Sep-23 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I have one shipment due tomorrow that will double my supply duration [04-Sep-23 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Big Grains [04-Sep-23 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: massive grain shipment, like a full ship [04-Sep-23 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Oooh dang [04-Sep-23 05:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: This guy's company is 6 days old, but they are rated A [04-Sep-23 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I think they already fulfilled a shipment I had to a separate location so it should be in good hands [05-Sep-23 04:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: hey anyone on this planet on? [05-Sep-23 04:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Yes how can we help? [05-Sep-23 04:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: you have like 20 spare rats I can buy? waiting on contract to bring me more rats XD [05-Sep-23 05:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **jwest23**: Put up an ad on the LM and I can get you sorted if you still need them [05-Sep-23 05:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: posted ^^ [05-Sep-23 05:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: thanks [05-Sep-23 05:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: goodnight [05-Sep-23 05:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Doubt anyone would take them at about 5/u..... [05-Sep-23 05:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **jwest23**: I sent him a private message about it. I sometimes forget the LM wants the total, too [05-Sep-23 06:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DavikCo** deleted this message.* [05-Sep-23 06:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: fixing it [05-Sep-23 06:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: fixed [05-Sep-23 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: anyone have a ship coming back from hot soon? [05-Sep-23 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DavikCo** deleted this message.* [05-Sep-23 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: hrt* [06-Sep-23 12:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrMoff** left.* [06-Sep-23 06:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: posted some rat buy orders [06-Sep-23 07:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: filled :) [06-Sep-23 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: thx [06-Sep-23 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: Anyone have extra fuel on planet :D I have buy ad posted [06-Sep-23 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: thank you p-money [06-Sep-23 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: no problem :) [07-Sep-23 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RealKobold** left.* [07-Sep-23 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: Anyone need anything moved Ava -> Prom? 500t/500m3 departing in 20 min [07-Sep-23 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: Ship leaving! [07-Sep-23 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: Shipping ads posted in LM for Avalon > HRT [08-Sep-23 02:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: anyone need anything taken to HRT?? [08-Sep-23 02:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Have you taken off yet? [08-Sep-23 02:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I could get in on that. How much space ya got [08-Sep-23 02:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: :< it won't let me abort [08-Sep-23 02:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: if you abort it will finish the current leg and then stop [08-Sep-23 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: it won't immediately stop [08-Sep-23 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: it says illegal arguments [08-Sep-23 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: oh [08-Sep-23 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: try reload the web page [08-Sep-23 02:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: still no [08-Sep-23 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: is it already aborted? [08-Sep-23 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: it won't let me abort [08-Sep-23 02:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: is it already doing the last leg? [08-Sep-23 02:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: I guess there is only one leg [08-Sep-23 02:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: that could be why then, if not I'd post about it in the help channel, I'm afraid I've exhusted my advice :) [08-Sep-23 02:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: its okay, just sad I couldn't help out P-money [08-Sep-23 02:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: I have 450 m3 / 450 t free and a mildly pressing reason to move a ship. I will welcome P-Money's (or other) cargo [08-Sep-23 02:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: Wait, that contract *originated* from HRT xD (it's fine, I have a ship that will make the inbound trip) [08-Sep-23 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thewatch** left.* [08-Sep-23 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: Shipping ads posted for HRT > Avalon [08-Sep-23 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pinormous**: Looking for up to 40 BDE, wanting to trade 1:1 with BBH, message if interested [09-Sep-23 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: If anyone has a spare BTA I placed a buy order on the local market [09-Sep-23 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: thanks :D [09-Sep-23 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: What are you getting shipped? [09-Sep-23 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: Hey anyone on here running technicians ? [09-Sep-23 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Some people have to be running some, as there's a few thousand employed ones [09-Sep-23 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: XD fair [09-Sep-23 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: if anyone is and is willing id like to try and buy 1 of each of their supplies. I may be an idiot and have forgotten their supplies at HRT, id like to avoid looking 6-7 hours of production [09-Sep-23 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: if anyone is willing please reach out to me <3 [09-Sep-23 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: ive also posted buying adds for 1 units of each of the elements I need as well [10-Sep-23 02:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gasgano**: Got you [10-Sep-23 02:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: thank you [10-Sep-23 07:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: Ship leaving for HRT in 30 minutes [10-Sep-23 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Greed_McTavish**: One HRT to Avalon ~500m3 [10-Sep-23 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Greed_McTavish**: ad is up [10-Sep-23 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: posted rat buy if anyone wants to sell [11-Sep-23 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dehzhas** joined.* [11-Sep-23 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: o/ [12-Sep-23 01:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6f1be10f32** left.* [12-Sep-23 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sauceaholics** left.* [12-Sep-23 07:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: Heya, anyone have some extra fuel for sale or going to HRT in less than 20 hours? [12-Sep-23 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: how much fuel [12-Sep-23 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: it was 200. was a contract [12-Sep-23 09:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: oh [12-Sep-23 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: thanks :D [12-Sep-23 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: life is hard atm so buying fuel where I can XD [12-Sep-23 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: got 10k extra that is cligging up my inv, glad to hand some out XD [12-Sep-23 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: good to know there is a nice supply here :D [12-Sep-23 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: im so ready for the population update!!! [12-Sep-23 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: pop update? [12-Sep-23 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: my technicians [12-Sep-23 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: its almost 7 days [12-Sep-23 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: oh, was thinking game update [12-Sep-23 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: im only 41 out of 280 [12-Sep-23 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ya XD [12-Sep-23 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: was like, wtf havent seen that news [12-Sep-23 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: oh hmmm [12-Sep-23 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: weird the timer said 6:22 earlier [12-Sep-23 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: not its only 6:16.... ughh [12-Sep-23 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: davik, want 2k fuel with a pay later contract? [12-Sep-23 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: hmmm sure I can do that [12-Sep-23 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: take a look at that [12-Sep-23 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: looks good to me [12-Sep-23 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: thank you <3 [12-Sep-23 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: np. [13-Sep-23 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **kerfy**: FYI KerfAg refines fuel on Avalon.. [13-Sep-23 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: alot of fuel refining on avalon [13-Sep-23 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I'm now the 16th largest RAT producer in the galaxy [13-Sep-23 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Each of my FPs on Avalon is cranking out 10 RATs per 3.75 hours [13-Sep-23 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: and I have 25 on this planet alone [13-Sep-23 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: so that's 1600 RAT per day on this planet [13-Sep-23 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Jeeez, nice! [13-Sep-23 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: what's for dessert? [13-Sep-23 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Caffeinated Infusion :P [13-Sep-23 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: I'll take it, I prefer my after-dinner cocktails to come in the form of an I.V. [13-Sep-23 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Straight to the dome [13-Sep-23 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Mainlining caffeine [13-Sep-23 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: need a caffine iv drip [14-Sep-23 05:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: who up? [14-Sep-23 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: Buying spare MED kits [14-Sep-23 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: I may have forgotten them when I purchased 3 days of supplies [14-Sep-23 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Andy97** joined.* [14-Sep-23 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Placed a buy order for 25 COF on Avalon LM if anyone has extra :] [14-Sep-23 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: got a pile of beans, but every time i brew them some cases of COF go missing XD [14-Sep-23 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Ahhh, those darn pioneers [14-Sep-23 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Thanks @copy2! [15-Sep-23 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Esabab**: buying a few RAT on LM if anyone is able to fill [15-Sep-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Gotcha :] [16-Sep-23 02:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TcEnterprize** left.* [22-Sep-23 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***heniu_1** joined.* [22-Sep-23 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***heniu_1** left.* [22-Sep-23 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***worvand** deleted this message.* [22-Sep-23 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: dant that one only lasted 12 minutes [23-Sep-23 12:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Curium** left.* [23-Sep-23 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Anybody coming to Av from Hortus Station soon? [23-Sep-23 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: If you are, and you have empty space, then let me know in the next few hours please :) have plenty of stuff you can move for me [23-Sep-23 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Yep. 1k tonnage in total on STLs that are arriving at Avalon, within the next 24hrs. [23-Sep-23 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: I've got some 2k more tonnage reserved at Hortus Station, but since there's no public business headed to Avalon, as of now, you'll have to pay 2-way STL rates. :P [23-Sep-23 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Can I send you 1,000t of shipping contracts from HRT to Avalon right now then? Or are you saying it's already left HRT [23-Sep-23 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: What's your bid rate and deadline on what you want shipped from Avalon -> HRT ? [23-Sep-23 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: 5ICA/t 1-2 days [23-Sep-23 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I dont want it shipped to HRT [23-Sep-23 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I want it shipped to Avalon [23-Sep-23 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Ah. I have ships at HRT without jobs, so they can pick those up. [23-Sep-23 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Send them if you want. [23-Sep-23 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: ok [23-Sep-23 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Sent u 4 contracts [23-Sep-23 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: wait im gonna send 1 more [23-Sep-23 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: mmhmm [23-Sep-23 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: ok done [23-Sep-23 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: thank you [23-Sep-23 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: 1d, 12h arrival. You paid almost bottom tier so the economy plan is what you will get XD. [23-Sep-23 04:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Understood and appreciated lol [23-Sep-23 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: I hope you have cargo coming back to Hortus Station from Avalon, lol [23-Sep-23 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Eh, my industry loses a lot of weight and volume in production, but people are always shipping stuff from Avalon to HRT [23-Sep-23 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Shouldn't have any trouble getting a contract [23-Sep-23 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: You must be one of the specialty industries that I noted to someone in this channel around 1-2 months ago, who was wondering about the industrial activity on the planet. [23-Sep-23 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: You're one of the ~25 companies who don't follow the COGC program here XD [23-Sep-23 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Oh no, I do produce RATs [23-Sep-23 05:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: but the inputs are like 3t for every 1t of RAT produced [23-Sep-23 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: or 3 to 2 [23-Sep-23 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I forget [23-Sep-23 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: yeah it's 3 to 2 [24-Sep-23 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: Ava -> HRT 400/400 departing 1h [25-Sep-23 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Atrophus** left.* [25-Sep-23 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Remember, always pay your bills on time. [25-Sep-23 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: 🤔 [25-Sep-23 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: A Lannister always pays his debts [25-Sep-23 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: why pay your bills on time. if you delay it for awhile you will get people wondering if you are ok [25-Sep-23 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: XD [25-Sep-23 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: true [25-Sep-23 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: they might even send someone to your house with pizza to check on you [26-Sep-23 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: LM shipping ads posted Avalon > HRT [27-Sep-23 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BaxterPierogis** joined.* [27-Sep-23 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: posted a buy for PWO if anyone wants [29-Sep-23 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: placing a rat buy order on local market :D [29-Sep-23 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: thanks [29-Sep-23 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: No problem, good timing (: [29-Sep-23 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: ^^ [30-Sep-23 06:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BaxterPierogis**: does anyone have any MCG Locally? looking to expand my base a bit [30-Sep-23 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pinormous**: If you're still looking, send me a contract; I'll sell @32 [01-Oct-23 04:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BaxterPierogis**: anyone have any drinking water in avalon today? Need a small amount running low [01-Oct-23 04:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***geatspahiu** joined.* [01-Oct-23 05:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BaxterPierogis**: need 50 drinking water [01-Oct-23 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **jwest23**: I have you. Send a contract [01-Oct-23 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: Do you produce DW here? [01-Oct-23 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: if anyone makes DW here ill start buying my DW here instead of from HRT [01-Oct-23 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: no one wants to take your shipments huh [01-Oct-23 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I feel like if you put buy ads on the LM here for DW, and bring attention to it in the chat afterwards you shouldn't have a problen sourcing DW here [01-Oct-23 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: I dont have any shipments, but before I make a shipment from HRT I wanted to check [01-Oct-23 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: im about to move both ships out of system [01-Oct-23 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: hm coincidence :p yeah I make DW, lots of people make that here I think [01-Oct-23 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: Cool ill just start sourcing that from here, DW and RAT I burn over 100 a day [01-Oct-23 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***captaincael** joined.* [01-Oct-23 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BaxterPierogis**: hello my Avalon neighbors. Does anyone have say a spare 200 each of GRN & VEG they wouldnt mind selling me to keep my FP Running. I am running low and my ships are about 2 days away [01-Oct-23 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: How much are you going to pay per unit? [01-Oct-23 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BaxterPierogis**: a fair price [01-Oct-23 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BaxterPierogis**: not looking for a handout [01-Oct-23 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Send me contracts for 200 of each :] [01-Oct-23 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BaxterPierogis**: stand by [01-Oct-23 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BaxterPierogis**: Thank you appreciate it [01-Oct-23 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: No problem at all man, made sure I had a good buffer here in case anything happens :] [01-Oct-23 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BaxterPierogis**: Just wanted to keep my FP running to gain more experts 🤪 [01-Oct-23 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Don't blame you - keeping your buildings constantly running is good [02-Oct-23 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Redemptionist** left.* [02-Oct-23 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: Ship departing Avalon > HRT in 14h, 2600t/750m free [02-Oct-23 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: Anyone have a single BBH/BSE/BDE? I placed LM buy ads at MM prices [02-Oct-23 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BaxterPierogis**: Send me a contract I have a few in Avalon [02-Oct-23 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: @BaxterPierogis, can you accept the LM ads? [02-Oct-23 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: if anyone gets a change :D I have a shipping add, please take me stuff <3 [02-Oct-23 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BaxterPierogis**: I accepted [02-Oct-23 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: Thank you <3 [02-Oct-23 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Filefolders** joined.* [03-Oct-23 12:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Ahh, welcome Filefolders :] [03-Oct-23 12:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Thanks for the welcome. [03-Oct-23 04:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: KSDC's planefall is acknowledged and noted. Welcome to the party [03-Oct-23 04:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Finally made it. [03-Oct-23 06:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BaxterPierogis**: if anyone is making a trip from avalon to promitor let me know [03-Oct-23 06:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: I've got lots of ships landing at Avalon in 2 days. I can commit them if you have jobs. :P [03-Oct-23 06:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: ah, I left 2 hours ago to prom [03-Oct-23 06:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: I'm daily shipping to and from prom. Every other day I'm mostly empty to prom so I have space just let me know [03-Oct-23 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BaxterPierogis**: just put up an ad from promitor to avalon [03-Oct-23 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: Welcome, @Filefolders [03-Oct-23 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: Does anyone have 10 units of MCG they are willing to part with here on Avalon? I posted a buy ad on the local market for 40 ICA/unit. Thanks! [03-Oct-23 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BaxterPierogis**: stand by i may have some [03-Oct-23 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: Thanks again, @BaxterPierogis! My aging food processing plant is in your debt! [03-Oct-23 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BaxterPierogis**: haha [03-Oct-23 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: anyone going to HRT today? [03-Oct-23 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: https://imgur.com/a/OH5iYTX {Embed} https://imgur.com/a/OH5iYTX Untitled Album https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/SHb4_xyUyq7g5MtCDShSVpB9oMxk_Dz1PPRpEtLXKgo/https/i.imgur.com/qHwjgVph.jpg [03-Oct-23 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: anyone got a bingo? [03-Oct-23 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I almost have a top left to bottom right diagonal. I haven't underestimated buildings required to produce intermediate inputs yet. [03-Oct-23 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ya base planners really help with that one [03-Oct-23 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Yeah. It's by the grace of PrUnPlanner that I haven't made that mistake, surely. [03-Oct-23 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***trawq** joined.* [03-Oct-23 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: 2x HRT -> Ava on Ava LM, total 200/200 [04-Oct-23 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: Hey anyone on planet have MCG? like 200-300 ish? [04-Oct-23 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: wrong planet XD [04-Oct-23 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: 1x HRT -> Ava on Ava LM, total 1 / 1.25 (smol!) [04-Oct-23 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: I buy rat, I do place da rat order [04-Oct-23 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: delivered your order of rodents. [04-Oct-23 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: thank you :D [04-Oct-23 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Diergu** joined.* [05-Oct-23 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BaxterPierogis**: running super low on drinking water I put up a buy order for 100 DW at HRT Sell price if someone can fill asap for me [05-Oct-23 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BaxterPierogis**: nevermind i am good [05-Oct-23 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Diergu**: anyone know other similar game ? [05-Oct-23 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: similar in what way? [05-Oct-23 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Diergu**: any other game involving this type of complex economy [05-Oct-23 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Diergu**: and space tematic [05-Oct-23 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: eve [05-Oct-23 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: x, x2, x3, x4 [05-Oct-23 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Diergu**: x4 its a mmo ? [05-Oct-23 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: no you said complex economy [05-Oct-23 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Diergu**: ah, and mmo, you knw ? [05-Oct-23 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: eve [05-Oct-23 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: best i can think of. thats can be close to this and mmo. [05-Oct-23 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: if you like the empire management and have a good computer, x4 has that but no actual multiplayer, just the weird expidition system [05-Oct-23 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Diergu**: okay <3 , thx [06-Oct-23 06:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BaxterPierogis**: I put up a local add for a shipping contract 2500 ica to MOR 67t 56m3 [06-Oct-23 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: not heading that direction within the next 15 hours :/ [07-Oct-23 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***latrostra** joined.* [08-Oct-23 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: about to post a 600 Rat buy ad [08-Oct-23 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: well ended up being 800, let me know if someone has RAT but in smaller volume [08-Oct-23 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Gotcha, Davik :] [08-Oct-23 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: much love [08-Oct-23 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: <3 [08-Oct-23 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Greed_McTavish**: 499.8t AVA > PROM Shipping LM ad posted [08-Oct-23 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lazrith_Draven** joined.* [09-Oct-23 05:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***geatspahiu** left.* [09-Oct-23 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Highlaender** joined.* [09-Oct-23 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BaxterPierogis**: I posted a small shipping order from HRT > PR [09-Oct-23 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BaxterPierogis**: HRT > Prom if someone could fill it [09-Oct-23 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BaxterPierogis**: sorry I meant HRT > Avalon [09-Oct-23 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userda2145281a** left.* [09-Oct-23 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SDRainbow** joined.* [09-Oct-23 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***xxKobalxx** joined.* [09-Oct-23 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xxKobalxx**: Hey all, just started and completed the contract to start a production line, do I just wait the 7 hours now? Or are there things to do in the meantime? [09-Oct-23 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: It'll be slow going to start. Just get your orders queued up for now. [09-Oct-23 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xxKobalxx**: Okay so basically just queue some things up and check back in tomorrow? [09-Oct-23 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Pretty much. [09-Oct-23 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xxKobalxx**: Sounds good to me, thank ya much! [09-Oct-23 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: It can get more involved the bigger you get. [09-Oct-23 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: But it's pretty simple in the beginning. [09-Oct-23 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xxKobalxx**: That's kinda what I figured, I'd imagine this stuff starts to compound as it goes on [09-Oct-23 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: You can keep things simpler if you make a point of it. [09-Oct-23 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Some pretty old accounts just chill out on one planet. [09-Oct-23 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Others have bases on thirty planets and must have turned all their hair grey by now. [09-Oct-23 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Having three bases is quite a challenge to keep everything running [09-Oct-23 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Well, my other 2 are basically self-sufficient, but Avalon requires me to ship in goods at least once a day [09-Oct-23 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Damn this high efficiency [09-Oct-23 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I have 171% efficiency on my 25 FPs [09-Oct-23 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xxKobalxx**: See I'm not going to lie the constant flipping back and forth and fine tuning each piece is one of the aspects I'm most interested in! [09-Oct-23 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: It's neat, and it's pretty cool to see the effect of getting bonuses lined up. [09-Oct-23 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: It can definitely become more and more of a hassle though. [09-Oct-23 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I wish I were remotely close to a third ship. [09-Oct-23 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I need to save up some money for that ship upgrade offer for noobs so I can get ahead of my logistics requirements. [09-Oct-23 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: It's really cool to be able to build up a planet from nothing, into having infrastructure, and multiple bases colonizing it [09-Oct-23 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Whats the ship upgrade offer [09-Oct-23 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Uh. [09-Oct-23 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Let me see. [09-Oct-23 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Oh. It was for accounts up to 180 days old. [09-Oct-23 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Damn. I'm still rocking with the 2 starter ships, but I want to get one more for STL only transportation [09-Oct-23 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Yeah. [09-Oct-23 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I want some planethoppers pretty badly too. [09-Oct-23 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I dont know how to make one yet [09-Oct-23 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I need to buy pro again dont I? [09-Oct-23 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Yeah, you need pro to build any ships, and you need pro to operate more than two ships at a time. [09-Oct-23 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: That's lame, I should be able to use them all with BASIC [09-Oct-23 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Yeah. [09-Oct-23 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: You can have them, but I think you can only have two in flight at a time without shelling out. [09-Oct-23 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I would love a planethopper to service my stuff here in Hortus system. [09-Oct-23 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: same. [09-Oct-23 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Folbad** joined.* [10-Oct-23 07:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BaxterPierogis**: Hopefully someone makes a trip from HRT to Avalon have a shipment there if someone could pick up its small [10-Oct-23 07:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BaxterPierogis**: if someone could fill my VERY Small order of COF while my ship gets back, I need just 20 COF I put a local market order up, I am running low [10-Oct-23 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Myself33550336** joined.* [10-Oct-23 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kislovod** left.* [10-Oct-23 11:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Irony** left.* [11-Oct-23 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nuvolico** left.* [11-Oct-23 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SDRainbow**: Anyone need shipping from HRT to Avalon in the next 24h. My ship is comming back to restock. [11-Oct-23 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I could give you a full ship of stuff from HRT -> Avalon if you want :] [11-Oct-23 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SDRainbow**: I only have space for 100t ^^' [11-Oct-23 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I could give you 100t of stuff then hahaha [11-Oct-23 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SDRainbow**: Just make a offer on the LM and I likey take it tomorrow if you don't low ball me to much. [11-Oct-23 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Was about to send a direct contract - 3d shipping from HRT -> Avalon, 100t, 1200 ICA [11-Oct-23 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SDRainbow**: works to, don't have that much expirience with direct contracts [11-Oct-23 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Just like one of the faction ones, this one isn't in a rush so I don't care if you wait out the pick up shipment timer [11-Oct-23 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Basically once you pick up the shipment, you have 3d to get it to Avalon :] [11-Oct-23 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SDRainbow**: nha, need to restock my foods to not interrupt my production. So it will likley arrive within 24h [11-Oct-23 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Sounds good man, appreciate it ! [11-Oct-23 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SDRainbow**: empty space is a waste, so thanks for the fast offer '' [11-Oct-23 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: :] [11-Oct-23 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ACreator** left.* [11-Oct-23 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***n0stalg1a** left.* [11-Oct-23 06:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Styx007** joined.* [11-Oct-23 06:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***trawq** left.* [11-Oct-23 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Have a ship getting to Avalon in 5m, 2900/900 available shipping to HRT if anyone has anything in the next like 15-20m [11-Oct-23 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Leaving in 10m ^ [12-Oct-23 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: shipping posted Avalon > HRT [13-Oct-23 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Diergu** left.* [13-Oct-23 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BaxterPierogis**: posting a shipping ad from HRT - Avalon [13-Oct-23 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: AVA -> HRT 300/300 departing ~ 3ish hours, send your traffic [13-Oct-23 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Stand by. [14-Oct-23 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***lol_beckie** joined.* [14-Oct-23 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: LM shipping posted Avalon > HRT [14-Oct-23 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sauerkrautonaut** joined.* [15-Oct-23 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user094f3c587e** left.* [17-Oct-23 07:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BaxterPierogis**: I put up a shipping order from HRT > Avalon [17-Oct-23 07:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SDRainbow**: On which LM do you guys poste this? [17-Oct-23 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: Shipping ads posted on Avalon local market, from Avalon to HRT Station [17-Oct-23 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Plantasia** left.* [17-Oct-23 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: doesnt someone near hortus make insulation? [18-Oct-23 12:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Highlaender** left.* [18-Oct-23 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Myself33550336** left.* [19-Oct-23 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Changyo** left.* [20-Oct-23 05:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SDRainbow**: Anyone need shipping to HRT from here (Avalon) I have 250t/350m3 space. [20-Oct-23 05:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SDRainbow** deleted this message.* [20-Oct-23 05:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SDRainbow**: leaving in ~2h [20-Oct-23 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: :D [20-Oct-23 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BaxterPierogis**: I put in a small Avalon > HRT order to ship if someone was so kind as to pick it up. Thanks again! [20-Oct-23 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: Assorted HRT -> AVA CONTS up on both LM [20-Oct-23 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: why not put them on the HRT LM? [20-Oct-23 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: My goals are beyond my understanding [20-Oct-23 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: Also because [20-Oct-23 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: (More seriously, the AVA LM filing fee is cheaper, and I figure it's seen by people who already have bases here, and therefore have inbound shipping) [20-Oct-23 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: good point, but the 1 day shipping will turn off some people from the contract [20-Oct-23 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: Not a big deal if they don’t move. I can move them myself later if I have to [20-Oct-23 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: “Keep calm and make money.” [22-Oct-23 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***useraddf195002** left.* [22-Oct-23 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: More inbound CONTS on HRT LM [23-Oct-23 05:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***smartsw** joined.* [23-Oct-23 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Orangatangle** joined.* [24-Oct-23 05:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CreativeUniverse** joined.* [24-Oct-23 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Esabab**: If anyone wants to run for Governor go for it. I'm not going to have the time to keep doing it for a while so I wont be in the list [24-Oct-23 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Out of curiosity, what's the weekly cost vs. taxes? [24-Oct-23 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Esabab**: its making 340k a week. Cost depends on people sneaking in to pay the COGCs and what not. It would be pretty close to even I think if I was paying for everything every week. [24-Oct-23 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Esabab**: Money is kind of pointless tho so I don't keep an exact accounting [24-Oct-23 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: woah 2 shipyards in HRT! [24-Oct-23 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: I can just bundle ship parts with GRN BEA and VEG when flying from Promitor to Avalon :D [24-Oct-23 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vile_Adventurer**: lol, why the shipyard? [24-Oct-23 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Holy cow, someone actually did it for Avalon [24-Oct-23 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: seems like shipyards are in season this week. Boucher, Verdant, and now Avalon! [24-Oct-23 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: You better believe I'll use this one over VH-331e (sorry-ish) [24-Oct-23 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: Oh hey we have a shipyard now :o [24-Oct-23 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: What's wrong with Shiptronia, @MysteriousWalrus? [24-Oct-23 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: The shipyard on Boucher surprised me because it's in the "middle of nowhere." This one surprises me because this system already has a shipyard. Aren't they all created equal? It is the availability and flow of parts that strikes me as the key variable, and I have no insight beyond what shows up in the CX. [24-Oct-23 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Shiptronia has bad environmental factors, which effect landing damage and various factors. Also renting the 2000 ICA warehouse is a slight pain if you do that [24-Oct-23 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: The starting shipyards are all on very bad planets with high warehouse fees [24-Oct-23 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: I'm curious as to why Avalon was favored over Promitor for the new shipyard, but definitely not complaining! [24-Oct-23 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I'm so glad that shipyard got built, because I was on my way to shiptronia when I got the notification [24-Oct-23 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: now I can abort that flight and take it home to avalon [24-Oct-23 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: that'll save a 2000 ICA warehouse bill [24-Oct-23 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: It was just a cargo bay upgrade [24-Oct-23 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: IT is* [24-Oct-23 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: yeah but you have to empty out your fuel tanks somewhere, unless you bring an escort ship [24-Oct-23 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: Hello, world. I'm throwing my hat in for governorship of Avalon. While this would be my debut appearance in the governance sphere, I am committed to stability, transparency, and the furtherance of your goals on Avalon. I would be honored to receive your vote in this upcoming election. [24-Oct-23 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: (translation: I am doing this for lolz but will probably not set things on fire) [24-Oct-23 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: No, vote for me! [24-Oct-23 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: @ArcturusRex I didn't know you had to empty the tanks, thanks [24-Oct-23 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Vote me if you want higher taxes!! [24-Oct-23 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Are they saying booo, or Boo-urns? [24-Oct-23 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: @MysteriousWalrus, are you trying to steal my campaign platform?! [24-Oct-23 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I'm proven true as I have raised taxes before ;] [24-Oct-23 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: I would vote for higher taxes man if he was running :D [24-Oct-23 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: So far "will probably not set things on fire" is the only promise we've got to vote on [24-Oct-23 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: "Vote Bob. Everything will probably be perfectly all right, maybe." [24-Oct-23 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I dunno, at least it's an honest campaign [24-Oct-23 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I'll throw my hat in the ring for the heck of it ;] [24-Oct-23 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: LOL [25-Oct-23 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bodian**: @ActurusRex Ref your curiousity.. It was attempted but Promitor didn't have any free plots. I had no idea these counted toward planetary projects. [25-Oct-23 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: I still wonder about he shipyard, by the time your buying anything for a ship upgrade, 2000 for a single rental of a warehouse is pocket change [25-Oct-23 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: but I'll take it, Avalon is better, but by no means is it better than the cost of actually building a shipyard in the first place [25-Oct-23 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: the shipyard at Shiptoria has done a total of 280 finished projects, if they all rented a warehouse for 1 week, that is 560,000 ICA in rental fees, I'm pretty sure the shipyard costs more than that, though I'm also aware that earlier on in the universe (before building FTL ship was unlocked or ship upgrades) a few corps did production with the, dropped off at shipyard of your choice as part of the deal and that would increase rental fees [25-Oct-23 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Keifer** left.* [25-Oct-23 05:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bodian**: Cost not a consideration, I'm winding down operations and leaving a few gifts on the planets I've operated from. [25-Oct-23 05:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bodian**: Some people choose to cause chaos in the markets (H2O for example) but this is my way out. [25-Oct-23 05:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bodian**: Although the H20 racket did generate some fun and got old and new players working together... guess it wasn't all bad [25-Oct-23 05:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **bazdakka**: fair enough then [25-Oct-23 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***valdin98** deleted this message.* [25-Oct-23 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***valdin98** deleted this message.* [25-Oct-23 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***valdin98** deleted this message.* [25-Oct-23 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Appreciate it, bodian :] [25-Oct-23 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: It's not too late, you can still create mayhem and chaos! [25-Oct-23 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Please don't go. The drones need you. They look up to you. [25-Oct-23 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BaxterPierogis**: I put up a local shipment from HRT > avalon if someone was kind to pick it up. [25-Oct-23 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: First! [25-Oct-23 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BlackBelt2007** joined.* [26-Oct-23 12:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: AL23's planetfall is acknowledged. Welcome to the party! [26-Oct-23 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: wow, 4 gov candidates [26-Oct-23 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: With the recent opening of elections, I would once again like to ask you for your vote for governor of Avalon. As a fellow landholder on this world, I pledge to work towards stability, transparency, and the furtherance of your goals -- because your goals are my goals. I would be honored to have the chance to serve your mission through the direction of Avalon's common resources for the benefit of all. [26-Oct-23 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: Vote Bob. It'll be pretty OK, really. [26-Oct-23 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: In the spirit of democracy, I just want to let it be known that my vote is for sale for cash. [26-Oct-23 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: hahahhaa [26-Oct-23 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I'll be honest - my votes going to Bob :] [26-Oct-23 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: oi what I voted for you [26-Oct-23 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I'm just trying to keep the votes even. [26-Oct-23 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: :o fun game [26-Oct-23 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: hahah rip marismols [26-Oct-23 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: o7 [26-Oct-23 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: oh wow this election's a bloodbath, Galaxia splitting the vote! [26-Oct-23 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: In-corporation feud?? [26-Oct-23 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: We need some more candidates :o [26-Oct-23 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Say no more. [26-Oct-23 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Lets gooo [26-Oct-23 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I think on a serious topic - whoever gets in, trimming down the number of settlers might be a nice start, a bit hard as they're in between but :p [26-Oct-23 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Evened out again. [26-Oct-23 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I saw haha [26-Oct-23 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: We just need a couple votes for marismols. [26-Oct-23 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: (For the avoidance of doubt, and to ensure the efficient distribution and utilization of planetary revenue for furtherance of your goals, I would create as soon as possible a separate governance corporation.) [26-Oct-23 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: (My buddy and I are going to take the money and run, so there's no need for me to reorganize corporate structure.) [26-Oct-23 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: vote 4 me [26-Oct-23 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I guess I'll actually throw my hat in as I doubt Avalon will cost close to Circa. I'll just stay in this corporation in the event I do win [26-Oct-23 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Avalon's also a lot closer to home ;] [26-Oct-23 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: (Though me throwing my hat in will not make me take this vote seriously :} ) [26-Oct-23 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: (Heaven forbid anyone do that.) [26-Oct-23 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vile_Adventurer**: jeez, 4 runners! [26-Oct-23 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vile_Adventurer**: 5 even! [26-Oct-23 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Toyota up in here. [26-Oct-23 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: If you vote me in as governor, I promise to use the money for the advancement of Food Industries on Avalon ( I have 28 Food Processors, and I'm sure many of you do too) as well as expanding the warehouse :) [26-Oct-23 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I've been an upstanding base operator here for a while, I employ 1,120 pioneers, and I even started the first project at our wonderful shipyard :p [26-Oct-23 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: 26 FP plus a lonely FER [26-Oct-23 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: While the advancement of Food Industries on Avalon is consistent with HTNO's goals, and those of many of you on this world, I argue that to declare a focus on this sector at the expense of others is premature. I argue that we must not lose sight of the needs of other industries on this world. I have heard from companies on Avalon in the Chemicals industry, supporting HYFs and HER production on our nearby breadbasket Promitor, and would assert that it is essential to our shared prosperity that the governor of Avalon work towards the continued success of this sector among others. [26-Oct-23 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: Additionally, the new gift of a shipyard on our world opens new and intriguing possibilities for our future that we must not ignore. The demand for ships, and upgrades to the same, is unrelenting and poorly served, and we as a world have a new opportunity to change this. It is imperative that the new governorship consider how this new resource may be supported for the benefit of all. [26-Oct-23 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: But while we open our ears to new possibilities, we must of course honor and support the needs of those who continue to rely on Avalon's unique combination of exchange proximity, habitability, proximity to fertile land, and continued support for our Food Industries sector as provided for by the Chamber of Global Commerce. From my perspective, supporting the needs of Avalon's constituents by keeping the Chamber running is the governorship's most important charge, and I pledge to apply the planetary revenue in service of this vital task. [26-Oct-23 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: Above all else, I promise as leader to listen, to try to understand, and to use the powers of governorship to further your goals on this world. [26-Oct-23 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: If I happen to become governor, my main goal is just to make sure pioneers, settlers, and technicians have a relatively stable unemployment across the board. I'm not planning on changing any of the local rules of Avalon nor am I trying to do anything spectacular, I just plan on trying my best to make sure everyone can get enough lower tier workers for their needs. [26-Oct-23 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: My main goal is to blow up, and then act like I don't know nobody hawhawhawhawhaw [26-Oct-23 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: To be clear about what I plan to do if I win - to be transparent with you guys. I will let the first week (that I get taxes) ride to get an understanding of expenses vs. taxes. Depending on that I will post an update in this chat and make changes to the taxes if need be. [26-Oct-23 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: if you want to blow up, theres INC for that [26-Oct-23 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/83dWxeo0JBw {Embed} JodyHighRoller https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83dWxeo0JBw MY MAiN GOAL My Mango 🥭 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/xFHgGA1yooXW8FqsgSI65zTkd5q5BNEFiOlIecI-wLQ/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/83dWxeo0JBw/maxresdefault.jpg [26-Oct-23 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Imagine how profitable and efficient everything could be if we could just incinerate the unemployed. [26-Oct-23 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: alot of easy carbon [26-Oct-23 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: ooh, I'm voting for "incinerate the unemployed"! [26-Oct-23 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: fuck it, thats my moto now. im running now. [26-Oct-23 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: vote worvand, i will incinerate the unemployeed [26-Oct-23 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: we needed more people running, we didnt have enough [26-Oct-23 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: oh my, now I'm torn... [26-Oct-23 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: (but at least "torn" isn't as bad as "incinerated") [26-Oct-23 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I'll incinerate all of the bourgeoisie, only sparing our precious slaves, I mean pioneers [26-Oct-23 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Now we're talking [26-Oct-23 11:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **roganartu**: why would you do chem on avalon instead of helion? [26-Oct-23 11:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: if you didn't want to spend the extra permit and INS [26-Oct-23 11:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **roganartu**: sure I guess, but I'm more responding to the messages above about considering chem for avalon cogc. Surely the vast majority of people are doing food here and chem on helion already, what's the point in changing that? [26-Oct-23 11:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **roganartu**: chem is already expensive enough to establish and profitable enough to run that the INS is kind of a rounding error [26-Oct-23 11:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: oh my I didn't notice that. Gonna have to vote for the Food Processing! [26-Oct-23 11:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: the chem fight happens pretty often on every secondary planet in the starter systems. Big pharma is just trying to expand their profits. [26-Oct-23 11:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: I love a good chem fight, though [26-Oct-23 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: And I have to say, chem has been good to me [26-Oct-23 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: just not on Avalon [26-Oct-23 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: look at current COGC votes, theres no one voting chem, not much traction to be made with a campaign designed to promote chem here [27-Oct-23 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlackBelt2007**: does anyone have the materials for two pioneer habs available on avalon that I could purchase from you? [27-Oct-23 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: throw up some contracts for ask price [27-Oct-23 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlackBelt2007**: thanks man! [27-Oct-23 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlackBelt2007**: I forgot to buy the stuff for the habs when I was at hortus so thanks for saving me a trip back [27-Oct-23 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: np, you paid above ask price so i should be thanking you [27-Oct-23 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlackBelt2007**: yeah I didnt feel like typing in the exact numbers lol [27-Oct-23 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: few people keep on avalon keep extra fabs around just in case, just toss up a contract for what you are missing for a decent price and you will get some bites [27-Oct-23 12:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlackBelt2007**: cool thanks [27-Oct-23 12:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: that sentence came out so weird in the beginning, think its bed time XD [27-Oct-23 12:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlackBelt2007**: i know the feeling [27-Oct-23 12:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: It seems that my opponents slanderously insinuate that I somehow intend to scandalously exert outsized influence upon the focus of Chamber of Global Commerce. Conveniently, they leave out the immutable fact that the Chamber answers to your collective will alone. [27-Oct-23 12:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: Be that as it may, I continue to pledge as leader that the consensus of the Chamber's participants is respected, and its operation supported, in furtherance of your goals on this world. Your goals are my goals. [27-Oct-23 12:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: i dont like wordy govenors, it always seems like they are hiding something by beating around the bush [27-Oct-23 12:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: from reading all your text, what i got is, you will kiss anyone's butt as long as they vote you. [27-Oct-23 04:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marismols**: I pay 10k for a vote. DM me for this shady deal :D [27-Oct-23 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: From my understanding reading through the chat, there was no such slandering from your opponents. A site owner just raised a genuine question in relation to your comment. [27-Oct-23 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: Brushing aside the referenced opponent's contempt -- for they are an opponent in this election, and they do show contempt -- I'll instead address what I see as the heart of their question: How would I possibly address the needs of voters so differently aligned? [27-Oct-23 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: It's quite simple. The Chamber of Global Commerce provides for the needs of its constituents as long as it is fed, and a healthy worker pool provides for the collective good of all so long as it is sustained by the planetary infrastructure. [27-Oct-23 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: As a fellow landholder with a vested interest in these, it is impossible for my goals to be misaligned with yours, as both are supported by these in service of a singular mission: "Keep calm and make money." [27-Oct-23 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **smartsw**: BUYING 50 Caffeinated Infusion (COF) @ 25,000.00 ICA [27-Oct-23 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **smartsw**: at the local market [27-Oct-23 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: accepted [27-Oct-23 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **smartsw**: Thanks [27-Oct-23 11:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lakota_Macchiato** left.* [27-Oct-23 11:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Circle_of_Life** joined.* [28-Oct-23 01:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: In a attempt to be flowery with your language, you introduced 2 falsehoods, it is possible for your goals to be "misaligned" with mine, you just got to be in a different field and want different COGC buffs or be a tyrant govenor who majorly increases or maxes out taxs for no reason, and the other is, the COGC doesn not provide for "needs" it provides a buff that people would like, but their bases can run without them. Your attempts at diplomatic speech just sound like a cult speech to me :/ [28-Oct-23 04:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***clanogrady** left.* [28-Oct-23 04:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I keep it simple, I'm running a base that's nearly maxed (4 area left) with FPs. I understand that this planet produces a surplus of taxes. My plans are to make this planet even better for FP operators like myself and the many others, by lowering taxes on FP outputs such as RAT, DW, COF. I also want to use the surplus money to expand the warehouse as much as possible (I think the limit is 1000 units but maybe not) [28-Oct-23 05:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I'm also active 7 days a week and I've never failed to deliver a contract on time yet. I think I'm a trustworthy candidate and if elected governor, any Avalon site owner can expect me to respond to their concerns in under 24 hours (assuming no personal, real life, emergencies) [28-Oct-23 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: if surplus money was a thing then that would be a decent idea, but most planets run at a deficit and require the governor to put in their own money sadly. while you do seem more "sane" than survivorbob, having someone who already been a govenor on the list puts you at a major disadvantage, there are many intricacies to being govenor, like being in your own corp so money isnt sent to other members or corp, setting corp as reciever of taxes, and running a spreadsheet to keep track [29-Oct-23 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Avalon does not run at a deficit according to the current gov [29-Oct-23 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: And if it did, then fixing that would be my first order of business, but thankfully it's a very profitable job as it is. [29-Oct-23 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***P-Money** deleted this message.* [29-Oct-23 07:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: That's why so many people want to have it [29-Oct-23 07:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I will be a governor soon, one way or another, but I would like to start on Avalon [29-Oct-23 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Garrosh**: I don't want to be rude or anything, but I think it's going to happen somewhere else [29-Oct-23 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I don't know if I'd consider this a 'very profitable job.' Esabab made it sound like it was just about breaking even [29-Oct-23 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: lol no being gov is usually not profitable at all [29-Oct-23 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: people do it because they know someone else would fuck up if they take it on [29-Oct-23 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: :] [29-Oct-23 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: yup :) [29-Oct-23 03:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: if you want to be governor, start on a smaller planet and learn the ins and outs as theirs not really a definitive guide on it. [29-Oct-23 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: I can tell you that Boucher is fairly break even, at the moment we're upgrading infastructure so I'm actually spend more than I get in taxes. I post the financial summary every week and if you are on the faction operations discord you'll find the gsheets link in the Boucher politics channel. [29-Oct-23 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Esabab said Avalon makes 300k profit per week, wym "just about breaking even"? [29-Oct-23 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I would decrease the taxes a bit, so it might be close to even if I had my way [29-Oct-23 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: 10/24 09:10 AM [CUGB] MysteriousWalrus Out of curiosity, what's the weekly cost vs. taxes? [29-Oct-23 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: 10/24 09:12 AM [XX] Esabab its making 340k a week. Cost depends on people sneaking in to pay the COGCs and what not. It would be pretty close to even I think if I was paying for everything every week. [29-Oct-23 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: "It would be pretty close to even I think if I was paying for everything every week." Is not 300k in profit, it's taxes going to POPI [29-Oct-23 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: thats a vague answer, like if he's not paying for everything, what is not getting paid for? It sounds like they are collecting the 340k and doing nothing [29-Oct-23 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I'm sure that's not the case, but it comes off that way [29-Oct-23 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: to me at least [29-Oct-23 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Paying for everything every week - you can buy the stuff bulk at the beginning of the month [29-Oct-23 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Making your own goods, there's different ways that could make sense [29-Oct-23 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: lol pmoney calm down [29-Oct-23 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: When I was governing Circa, I bought a decent amount of the stuff in bulk but some of the other stuff bought almost weekly. [29-Oct-23 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: But I doubt they're making 300k in profit looking at the current taxes... [29-Oct-23 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: governors barely make money [29-Oct-23 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: it just doesnt work that way sadly [29-Oct-23 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: popi is expensive [29-Oct-23 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: especially with these taxes being set to the lowest already [29-Oct-23 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: cant even lower the taxes below 10 in faction space I think [29-Oct-23 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Correct [29-Oct-23 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: prices vary indeed though, because sometimes people like to be generous and fill needs of the popi [29-Oct-23 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: like I did with DW, I supplied all of it for quite a while until I stopped making it [29-Oct-23 06:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: pop upkeep, cocg bills, gov programs. It all adds up! plus any upgrades needed to maintain population happiness. [29-Oct-23 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: many people new to governorship seem to get the idea that its easy money, but sadly its alot of work and expense management. [29-Oct-23 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: back when i started it was normal for governors to lose a few hundred K a term just keeping everything afloat. glad people arnt afraid of slightly higher taxes now. [29-Oct-23 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: anyone know how much govt programs cost currently? all the other costs seem easy to manage. [29-Oct-23 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I'd assume ~50k for festivities III? [29-Oct-23 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Not bad for what it does [29-Oct-23 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: PF scales with the population. PF1 on Prim costs about as much as PF3 on Boucher [29-Oct-23 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Interesting, thanks for that context! [29-Oct-23 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Oops, I meant Prom not Prim [30-Oct-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: someone should name a close by planet primitor just to cause lots of confusion XD [30-Oct-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: circa and circe all over again [30-Oct-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Primotor. [30-Oct-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: lol rename hortus b to primotor XD [30-Oct-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: That would be so insanely annoying. [30-Oct-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I love it. [30-Oct-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: i would totally do it if i had the correct supporter rank [30-Oct-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Time to give the devs more money, I guess. [30-Oct-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: sadly got no extra money to give... if only i had my ICA wallet as my bank account total [30-Oct-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Take on more work. The prank demands it. [30-Oct-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: I love it, I've been looking at planets to name. [30-Oct-23 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Promotor [30-Oct-23 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Given that most people would probably just type "Prom" when keying in destinations, the maximum damage would be done by naming it Promator [30-Oct-23 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Assuming the auto-complete goes alphabetically [30-Oct-23 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Oooh [30-Oct-23 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Yep, just confirmed that using Circa and Circe [30-Oct-23 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: "Prometor" works too [30-Oct-23 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Does it go by planet named alphabet or system - searching "No" in the PLI - Nova Honshu, Nova Unalaska, Nobellion [30-Oct-23 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: I don't think it allows searching by system, e.g. Midway c [30-Oct-23 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Or Bastion for that matter [30-Oct-23 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Yeah...the newish named systems can't all be search currently [30-Oct-23 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: But what I meant is that it looks like it may alphabetize by system designation [30-Oct-23 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlackBelt2007**: 40t/250m^3 Avalon to Moria if anyone wants it [30-Oct-23 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BlackBelt2007**: I will be leaving this afternoon, probably like 6hr [30-Oct-23 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nakohnen** joined.* [30-Oct-23 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: "Promato"? [30-Oct-23 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: prometor is a got one, looks like someone typoed it, could make it its own by going prometeor [30-Oct-23 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: the planet that wish for falling rocks [30-Oct-23 02:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GamingStuff** joined.* [30-Oct-23 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: lmao you're going to screw over sooo many new players [30-Oct-23 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: i love it [30-Oct-23 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: "Promenade"? [30-Oct-23 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: nope no no we're not going french [30-Oct-23 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Why limit ourselves? We have four planets left to name. [30-Oct-23 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Primotor. Prometor. Promotor. Promoter. [30-Oct-23 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: We have to name some southwestern planet a close variation of Promitor so people accidentally send their ship on a 300 FF flight to a wasteland planet :} [30-Oct-23 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Planet in a system that's alphabetically higher than V (not hard at all) [30-Oct-23 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Jesus. [30-Oct-23 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: You know, I was worried by all the comments about throwing colonists in the smelters, but I know now without a doubt that you people are evil. [30-Oct-23 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: LMAO [30-Oct-23 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Thank you !! [30-Oct-23 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BaxterPierogis**: posted a shipment from HRT > Avalon [30-Oct-23 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I'll pick that up in ~2hrs [30-Oct-23 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: INC, not SME ;) [30-Oct-23 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: Could always reprocess the ash for trace TI or AU, anyway 🤷 [30-Oct-23 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: throwing pioneers into incinerators is how i fixed the last unionization [30-Oct-23 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: What unionization ;] [30-Oct-23 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: exactly [30-Oct-23 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: "Unionised workers will be subjected to ionisation." [30-Oct-23 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Best way to figure out which of two people is a chemist and which one is a tradesman is asking them to pronounce unionized [30-Oct-23 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Guys, you know we belong to a cooperative, right? [30-Oct-23 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Nice, joke, by the way, P-Money. [31-Oct-23 02:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: agreed, nice joke [31-Oct-23 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Orangatangle** left.* [31-Oct-23 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: thanks guys [01-Nov-23 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cymatic_Flux** left.* [01-Nov-23 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: took me half a day to get it :D [01-Nov-23 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I like to imagine you were just sitting there scratching your head looking at your screen for a good 12h trying to understand it :p [01-Nov-23 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I'll fulfill the CoGC upkeep in 7d, I'll let others submit contributions in the meantime if they have faction contracts or are feeling generous :] [02-Nov-23 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***NerdRantz** joined.* [02-Nov-23 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **NerdRantz**: Question. When starting out and you set up production. What else can you do while you wait for 7 hours? XD [02-Nov-23 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Read a book. [02-Nov-23 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Joking aside, the game starts slowly. [02-Nov-23 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **NerdRantz**: Bahah ok I just wanted to check. So you can't really do anything until that first order completes and you sell? [02-Nov-23 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: If you want to play around with the game while waiting on production or shipping, you might enjoy acquainting yourself with some of the third-party tools for the game. [02-Nov-23 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **NerdRantz**: Oh! I'll go check that out! [02-Nov-23 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: You can plan out expansion in PrUnPlanner.org, for example. [02-Nov-23 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **NerdRantz**: I work remotely so this is the perfect game to just have running while I'm sitting at my desk. [02-Nov-23 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Nice. [02-Nov-23 10:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: People can recommend you lots of tools. The two most popular are prunplanner.org and fio.fnar.net. [02-Nov-23 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: One I also really like is aeryen23.github.io/yapt. FIO is able to do the same thing with a little more information, but I think YAPT is pretty, and FIO sometimes struggles under the load we put on it. [02-Nov-23 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NerdRantz**: I'll have to go check those out thanks for the information! [02-Nov-23 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NerdRantz**: How is everyone today? [02-Nov-23 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Pretty good! How about you? @NerdRantz :] [02-Nov-23 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CreativeUniverse** left.* [02-Nov-23 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NerdRantz**: Not too bad just finished up work for the day. [02-Nov-23 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Nice! Finished up work for the day as well, just have some small things to do here and there then I can relax :p [02-Nov-23 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***rpag455** left.* [03-Nov-23 10:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nanny**: anyone available to quickly pickup a shipment to go from avalon->hrt? 5000 ICA for 400t on LM [03-Nov-23 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I'll have it to HRT in ~9h or whenever I check tonight :] [03-Nov-23 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: Congratulations to the new governor! [03-Nov-23 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: cheers, and thanks to everyone who ran and made it. a fun and entertaining race! [03-Nov-23 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Thank you! That was a good race indeed :] [03-Nov-23 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: btw: don't forget to set your own corp as tax collector because that doesnt happen automatically [03-Nov-23 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Aye...connection right now won't allow me to edit Local Rules [03-Nov-23 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Just got off work :p [03-Nov-23 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I'll probably be able to edit it once my term in Circa ends, this time tomorrow. The taxes being collected right now are probably going towards Esabab's dividend anyway. [03-Nov-23 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: ah [03-Nov-23 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: no they're going to Insitor I believe [03-Nov-23 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: yeah they get wasted for now [03-Nov-23 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: For example, when I took over Circa, it was before Sunday, so all the taxes went to the previous corporation despite me being tax collector [03-Nov-23 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: hm weird [03-Nov-23 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Congratulations, boss. [03-Nov-23 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Thanks :] [03-Nov-23 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***gufoscudo** joined.* [04-Nov-23 04:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chrono9** left.* [04-Nov-23 09:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Raudgrani** left.* [05-Nov-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gnu-Boot** joined.* [05-Nov-23 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: 500t/500m available on Avalon -> HRT. Post LM ads to fill that with auto provision on if you want and I'll pick em up when I can :] [07-Nov-23 09:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: CoGC upkeep filled - thanks @Shin-Hong_Ng for contributing the PE necessary :] [07-Nov-23 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BaxterPierogis**: posting a small package for 2k ict Avalon > HRT [08-Nov-23 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GamingStuff** left.* [08-Nov-23 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Anyone up for overnighting a couple shipments from HRT for me? 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[12-Nov-23 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***gufoscudo** left.* [12-Nov-23 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TherenShadowborn** joined.* [12-Nov-23 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tembleqito** joined.* [13-Nov-23 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ace_Ape** joined.* [13-Nov-23 12:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0ec5542a89** left.* [13-Nov-23 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlackBelt2007**: what is the best place to set up water production around prom? preferably in the direction of Moria not the other directions [13-Nov-23 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Proutmouth** left.* [13-Nov-23 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Well, the best, most popular one is in the opposite direction from Moria, and that would be Boucher. [13-Nov-23 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Danakil is right on the path to Moria and it very habitable, but its water reserves aren't nearly as rich as Promitor, let alone Boucher. [13-Nov-23 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: *and is [13-Nov-23 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Frost is another frozen water world along the lines of Phantasm, and it's just past Moria. [13-Nov-23 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***-butterfly-** joined.* [13-Nov-23 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Repare** joined.* [13-Nov-23 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Repare**: I have 500/500 open shipping capacity going to Promitor, looking to leave soon [13-Nov-23 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Repare**: Ah, whoops. Wrong planet chat [13-Nov-23 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Repare**: Never mind, right chat! I'm flying from Avalon to Promitor [14-Nov-23 02:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marismols**: Some shippments HRT->AVA if you have spare space in your trunk. [14-Nov-23 02:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marismols**: AVA LM [14-Nov-23 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eno_Phmann** left.* [15-Nov-23 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: Couple of small HRT -> AVA on AVA LM [16-Nov-23 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: Can you provision the goods please my firned [16-Nov-23 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Shorewahtevs**: friend [16-Nov-23 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: Provisioned! [16-Nov-23 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: Hey im placing some RAT buy orders on the LM [16-Nov-23 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Folbad**: filled all your RAT conts bud [17-Nov-23 05:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***klinqy** joined.* [17-Nov-23 09:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: Thank you :D [17-Nov-23 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere17adca958** left.* [17-Nov-23 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sansemin** left.* [17-Nov-23 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userced2568a6b** left.* [17-Nov-23 10:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kalbas** joined.* [18-Nov-23 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb296287f98** left.* [18-Nov-23 09:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cornelius.Vanderbilt** left.* [18-Nov-23 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nilu** left.* [18-Nov-23 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc8569293b6** left.* [18-Nov-23 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Coming close to the end of my current term - Avalon is running at a 125000 ICA deficit per week keeping the planet supplied with the inputs required to maintain the population. If I get re-elected I am going to raise taxes by a small bit for Pioneers and Settlers, each a week apart to see how much each effect the total financial situation. [19-Nov-23 01:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SDRainbow**: understandable [19-Nov-23 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user84f22920da** left.* [19-Nov-23 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Circle_of_Life**: Gotta pay the bills, we need good leadership and the small fees are no big deal to provide a hospitable planet. Thanks mighty leaders [19-Nov-23 11:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: ^ + 1 [19-Nov-23 11:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: On a random note - @Gravy it's cool seeing you at 999d in :] [19-Nov-23 11:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gravy**: Hot damn, that means a bunch (fewer these days) of us will hit 1k when the universe started [20-Nov-23 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: Well I voted for a promise to raise taxes, so ... promises kept! :D [20-Nov-23 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: >keeping campaign promises [20-Nov-23 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I knew he didn't have what it takes to be a politician. [20-Nov-23 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I bet there'd be mass hysteria if I got re-elected and didn't raise taxes :o [20-Nov-23 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Circle_of_Life**: I keep asking to pay more to help our planet! [20-Nov-23 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Circle_of_Life**: It's funny how we can have more pride in paying this game's planetary taxes than our own in real life local governments lol [20-Nov-23 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Very true :p [20-Nov-23 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tembleqito** left.* [20-Nov-23 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Well, our pretend planet isn't blowing our pretend taxes on foreign adventurism for one. [20-Nov-23 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: However, if elected governor, I pledge to intervene in the humanitarian disaster that is [foreign planet]. [20-Nov-23 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Promitor [20-Nov-23 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Too many people. We should nuke it from orbit. [20-Nov-23 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Nah. Promitor is our Greatest Ally (TM). [20-Nov-23 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Also, we both have bases there. Quit that. [20-Nov-23 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: I'm definitely not saying that because it would make for cheap real estate [20-Nov-23 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: That would be evil [20-Nov-23 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Game doesn't work that way. [20-Nov-23 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: If it did, you might be able to bend my ear. [20-Nov-23 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Yeah, yeah. I kid. [20-Nov-23 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Kidding around? You think this is a game? [20-Nov-23 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Game? I thought I opened bloomberg terminal. [20-Nov-23 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: I'm in the wrong place [20-Nov-23 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rowbot** joined.* [20-Nov-23 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Circle_of_Life**: Lol I got bases on both as well, seems to be a common trend of smart minds thinking alike. [20-Nov-23 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: No nuking of Promitor please. [20-Nov-23 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Promitor-Avalon is a major dynamic duo. [20-Nov-23 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Too synergistic to pass up having them both [20-Nov-23 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: And how close both are to HRT is so nice [20-Nov-23 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: It kinda gave me unrealistic expectations for other planets when I was starting out [20-Nov-23 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Can we at least like...ignite Odysseus or something cool? :] [20-Nov-23 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: That'd result in a massive stink ;) [20-Nov-23 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: If we can't blow something up then what are we even doing? [20-Nov-23 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ace_Ape** left.* [20-Nov-23 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: You can, it would just smell like burnt ammonia :D [21-Nov-23 02:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Wait, I'm going to need that hydrogen. [21-Nov-23 02:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: And the ammonia too. [21-Nov-23 09:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RastaSquare** joined.* [21-Nov-23 01:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***bowwow** left.* [22-Nov-23 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rinzai** joined.* [22-Nov-23 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mumetnaroq** joined.* [22-Nov-23 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mumetnaroq** left.* [22-Nov-23 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***raratak** joined.* [23-Nov-23 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Astralroth** joined.* [23-Nov-23 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Crowmen** joined.* [24-Nov-23 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marismols**: May be someone wants to sell water for 30/u. Ads in LM. [24-Nov-23 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pinormous**: bet [25-Nov-23 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***klinqy** left.* [25-Nov-23 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kulentxo** joined.* [25-Nov-23 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kalbas** left.* [26-Nov-23 01:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I'll sell water for 25-29 per unit at Boucher :) [26-Nov-23 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wakuseino** left.* [26-Nov-23 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I think tonight, with elections going the way they are, I'm going to do the pioneer tax raise from 10 ICA to 15 ICA across all industries, see how much that effects tax revenue then adjust settlers next week [26-Nov-23 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: several Rat and DW placed [26-Nov-23 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: :D i do need atleast 1 rat order today [26-Nov-23 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Filled a mandatory RAT order [26-Nov-23 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: <3 [26-Nov-23 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Got the DW ones as well - I'll let someone else manage the rest of the RATs :] [26-Nov-23 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: thank ye [26-Nov-23 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: @MysteriousWalrus interesting point! If you raised them both together, you wouldn't know how much each contributed to tax revenue. I imagine PIO represents the lion's share, due to FP being PIO-only [26-Nov-23 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I'd assume having +5x as many PIOs they should be doing the lion's share of taxes, it'll be nice to see how big of a difference that small raise will make [26-Nov-23 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Lexetal**: Hey im trying to trade my NCC for your ICA, if anyone's interested DM me [26-Nov-23 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Not using the FOREX? [26-Nov-23 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: FOREX? [26-Nov-23 10:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: oh the FX command [27-Nov-23 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: @Mordgier, Governor of Circa (QQ-001a) is trying to encourage new bases on the Circa, he is offering discounted tier 1 prefabs and 90d payment periods for said materials - If you're interested to do some manufacturing in the Moria region or interested in the planets resources, let him know I told you to reach out to him and see what deals you can work out! :] [27-Nov-23 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Not entirely the best location to advertise this, but it's a nice foothold in that region if you want to expand out of Hortus [27-Nov-23 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Pricing reference if you want to settle on Circa: "BSE:1K BBH:1.5k BDE:1.5k BTA:800 MCG:20" [27-Nov-23 11:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: Well that's going to accelerate my plans to colonize Circa [27-Nov-23 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Just putting it on the table, there are closer manu planets, e.g. Nova Honshu and one of the OF-443 planets [27-Nov-23 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: ^ [27-Nov-23 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Nova Honshu is the Hortus manufacturing planet, if you want to stay somewhat centralized in one region - just spreading that deal :] [27-Nov-23 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vile_Adventurer**: OF-443B [28-Nov-23 04:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: yeah Nova Honshu is on the bucket list as well, but since I already have a base on Circe, Circa is "closer" for me [28-Nov-23 04:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ArcturusRex**: I also have plans for the FEO/HAL deposits on Circa :) [28-Nov-23 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marismols**: I will buy water. LM. [28-Nov-23 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Circle_of_Life**: Oh wow, Circa was on my list, maybe it just moved on up to next planet :D [29-Nov-23 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RastaSquare** left.* [29-Nov-23 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***thaelina** joined.* [30-Nov-23 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***uristohkrat** left.* [30-Nov-23 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: Placed RAT buy orders :D [30-Nov-23 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Fulfilled [01-Dec-23 12:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: tahnk you [02-Dec-23 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc761a1c0c5** left.* [02-Dec-23 07:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Crowmen** left.* [02-Dec-23 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Calma** left.* [03-Dec-23 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I am going to let the Pioneer tax increase run another week to get a better understanding of how the increase effected overall taxes - some people have long orders from before the tax raise. One week gives me a good idea but I'll let it ride for one more then make changes to SET. :] [03-Dec-23 10:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TorchWerkes** joined.* [04-Dec-23 01:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***xxKobalxx** left.* [04-Dec-23 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***YuLun** joined.* [04-Dec-23 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FEDO** joined.* [04-Dec-23 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest. [04-Dec-23 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: And what is the charge? [04-Dec-23 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Creating a meal!? A succulent Basic Ration meal!? [04-Dec-23 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Hahahah [04-Dec-23 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Ahh, I see you know your Judo well! [04-Dec-23 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Are you ready to receive-- Wait, am I allowed to deliver this line in game chat? [04-Dec-23 06:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ive done it, ive made the highest quality RAT possible. [04-Dec-23 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Circle_of_Life**: You left your scientists unattended with full consumables for a week and a new candy RAT flavor is unleashed [05-Dec-23 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: 2 rat buy orders posted [05-Dec-23 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marismols**: accepted [05-Dec-23 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: thanks [05-Dec-23 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **YuLun**: 500 t/m³ to HRT or promitor [06-Dec-23 07:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: rat and dw buy posted [06-Dec-23 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheVanquish121** joined.* [06-Dec-23 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Nakohnen**: your price for DW is off [06-Dec-23 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: let me check it [06-Dec-23 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: might have missed a digit [06-Dec-23 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: lollll thats supposed to be 100 water [06-Dec-23 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Anyone have like 300 MCG I can buy? For some reason my math was off [06-Dec-23 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: sure [06-Dec-23 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: just throw a contract up for 30 each [07-Dec-23 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Does anyone have 2 BSE, 1BBH and 1 BDE I can buy on Avalon? Happy to pay a little extra. Thanks! [08-Dec-23 06:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***EVERGREEN.** joined.* [08-Dec-23 06:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: posted some RAT buy [08-Dec-23 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: DW and RAT buys posted [08-Dec-23 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **nanny**: various 2-day Prom->Ava shipping ads posted on Prom LM. a few thousand ICA for a couple hundred t/m3. [08-Dec-23 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: here to HRT posted [08-Dec-23 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***About35Badgers** joined.* [08-Dec-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HatEnjoyer** joined.* [08-Dec-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **HatEnjoyer**: a [08-Dec-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: ａ [08-Dec-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **HatEnjoyer**: Just installed. This is confusing :D [08-Dec-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: It's a lot to take in at first. [08-Dec-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **HatEnjoyer**: I've noticed. It is a tad entertaining trying to figure things out tho [08-Dec-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: My advice is that you don't need a lot of the features yet. Start by following the tutorial and learn what you need to use here and now. The rest will build on it later. [08-Dec-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **HatEnjoyer**: unerstood [08-Dec-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Also, I'm a big proponent of starting on Promitor. If things don't feel like they're working out here, Promitor is a pretty simple start. Plus, it's so full that the only way to have a spot there is to start there. [08-Dec-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: prom is good s tart [08-Dec-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: this is my hometown [08-Dec-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: i was smol once now big [08-Dec-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Promitor and then Avalon is a powerful move. [09-Dec-23 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **HatEnjoyer**: Welp, I started in avalon already, so there's that [09-Dec-23 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Yeah. If things don't work out, you can restart by liquidating your company. The command is COLIQ. Break glass in case of emergency. [09-Dec-23 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **HatEnjoyer**: oh. I see [09-Dec-23 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Goyya** joined.* [10-Dec-23 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CassiusStorm** left.* [10-Dec-23 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Alright as previously stated, settlers taxes raised from 10->25 ICA, will monitor over next two weeks to see how much of an impact this has on the overall financial situation :] [11-Dec-23 12:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Thanks @Andy97 for continually helping fill CoGC upkeep :] [11-Dec-23 02:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: O7 [11-Dec-23 02:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: No problem! [11-Dec-23 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Anyone have water available that5 I can purchase on Avalon? [11-Dec-23 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I have a bit - send me a contract for market bid if you want :] [11-Dec-23 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Thank you sir [11-Dec-23 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: How many units were you thinking? [11-Dec-23 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I can spare up to like..2500 right now? :] [11-Dec-23 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Wonderful. Ill purchase a fair amount lol [11-Dec-23 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: sent [11-Dec-23 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Gotcha :} [11-Dec-23 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Thankya kindly [11-Dec-23 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TorchWerkes** left.* [12-Dec-23 01:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Samdroid_** joined.* [13-Dec-23 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Soulvenom** joined.* [13-Dec-23 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Buying add for water posted [13-Dec-23 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Qualitative** joined.* [13-Dec-23 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BuckDitkus** joined.* [14-Dec-23 07:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: rat buys posted :D [14-Dec-23 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***gatoratlaw** left.* [14-Dec-23 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Does anyone have 6 BBH, 2 BSE and 6 BDE [14-Dec-23 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: That i can buy on avalon? [14-Dec-23 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: yeah [14-Dec-23 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I got you [14-Dec-23 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I'll accept whatever the current Hortus asking price is [14-Dec-23 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: amazing, thank you [14-Dec-23 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: No problem bud :) [14-Dec-23 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Insitor gang's gotta work together [14-Dec-23 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Yessir, appreciate it [14-Dec-23 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Its my first expansion and i keep realizing the things I was forgetting lol [14-Dec-23 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Been there, done that lol [14-Dec-23 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Avalon is a great first expansion for Promitor starts though [14-Dec-23 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Yeah its fantastic. Eats an unholy amount of water until I get boucher up and running tho lol [14-Dec-23 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: just try to keep those FPs running 24/7, it can be tough [14-Dec-23 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: very true. even with boucher, promitor, and Chu I still dry up my materials at times [14-Dec-23 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I haven't run out on Avalon yet, but I've exhausted my backlog of crops from before I reached this level of consumption, so it's increasingly a risk. [15-Dec-23 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FEDO** left.* [16-Dec-23 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: lots of DW and RAT buy posted [16-Dec-23 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BuckDitkus** left.* [16-Dec-23 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***PofigIST** joined.* [17-Dec-23 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GeneralZ** joined.* [17-Dec-23 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **GeneralZ**: hellooo avalon :) [17-Dec-23 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **GeneralZ**: anyone got 100 DW and 100 OVE for sale? forgot to bring that with me...ad on LM [17-Dec-23 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***masonwater** joined.* [17-Dec-23 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Oktasat** joined.* [17-Dec-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: heyyooo [17-Dec-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Welcome! :o [17-Dec-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: i forgor that i get a new global chat when i set up the base earlier :) [17-Dec-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Yeahh, they start to blend together after the first few you're in ;p [17-Dec-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: cant wait till i settle a planet that isnt in the starting list of planets [17-Dec-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: well i had just woke up right before i set up base, so i had other stuff on mind than the game [17-Dec-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: You have all really good planets so far :] [17-Dec-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: thank you, i plan on being a water baron, and this gem, will supply all my other bases with DW, RAT, and OVE [17-Dec-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Avalon can output a whoooole lot [17-Dec-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: ill eventually turn promitor into RIGs instead of farms [17-Dec-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Some would consider that heresy, I'd be a hypocrite if I judged you :p [17-Dec-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: yea, too much for me lmao i gotta run with no luxury consumables [17-Dec-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: it feels like heresy tbh, but we do what we must [17-Dec-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I got 20 FRMs and 20 RIGs on Promitor, I'm right in the middle haha [17-Dec-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: oh you got it fully developed? [17-Dec-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Only planet of mine that is literally packed to the gills [17-Dec-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: 1000/1000 area :o [17-Dec-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: can i ask, when did you start spending the permits for the extra area? [17-Dec-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I put down my base on Avalon at 60d in, which was after I fully developed Promitor [17-Dec-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I added permits to Promitor when I needed more space to build [17-Dec-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: woa [17-Dec-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: i wasnt planning on adding extra permits to any bases until new ones starting making half of the best base i have [17-Dec-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: The only base I have extra permits on right now is Promitor, as it hurts to me to have it underdeveloped [17-Dec-23 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: i was planning on developing boucher first, but the advantage of all those FRMs is pretty big [17-Dec-23 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Really hard choice there :p [17-Dec-23 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: It's very tempting to just produce more water than you can transport yourself [17-Dec-23 09:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***HatEnjoyer** left.* [18-Dec-23 07:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jpurrenhage** left.* [19-Dec-23 04:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **GeneralZ**: forgot to build a storage, someone got 6 BBH, 2 BSE, 6 BDE, 60 MCG? AD on LM [19-Dec-23 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kitsejuust** joined.* [19-Dec-23 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I see no necessary changes for the upcoming term on Avalon - planning on running everything the same way as I have thus far :] [19-Dec-23 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Sounds good to me [19-Dec-23 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***wpiqfivtoyscsfjxit** joined.* [19-Dec-23 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **GeneralZ**: still missing 2 BSE, anyone some in stock? ad on LM [19-Dec-23 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: sorry lol i only have BTA :( [19-Dec-23 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: got my first ship upgrade going, here in avalon too [19-Dec-23 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Upgrading to a WCB? [19-Dec-23 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: an MCB [19-Dec-23 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Oooh nice [19-Dec-23 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Doubling your storage makes a really big difference [19-Dec-23 09:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: yep, will allow me to actually haul most of the water from boucher myself lol [19-Dec-23 09:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: That was my guess - really helps :} [20-Dec-23 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***useree2aaaf049** left.* [20-Dec-23 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vention** joined.* [21-Dec-23 04:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***harry26548** joined.* [21-Dec-23 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: yoo there he is [21-Dec-23 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Vention and harry26548 :o [21-Dec-23 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vention**: I have indeed arrived, now it's time to see if my pre-planning will pay off - I'm very hopeful that I planned my logistics correctly [21-Dec-23 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Luckily if not, it can be correct somewhat quickly here :] [21-Dec-23 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Welcome guys! [21-Dec-23 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **harry26548**: Anyone got like, 4 or 5 BTA? I somehow forgot it [21-Dec-23 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: I have 4 [21-Dec-23 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: actually 5 lol [21-Dec-23 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: send a contract [21-Dec-23 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Anyone about to send a ship out to Avalon? I will pay a significant premium for expedited shipping. [21-Dec-23 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Ooops [21-Dec-23 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Was slightly confused :p [21-Dec-23 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Should've taken me up on it! [21-Dec-23 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Would've been an easy job! [22-Dec-23 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Qualitative** left.* [22-Dec-23 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: HRT>Avalon posted [23-Dec-23 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Unc0unted** joined.* [23-Dec-23 06:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **harry26548**: Ad up on LM for 48 RAT. Accodentally ran out [23-Dec-23 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Gotcha <3 [23-Dec-23 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **harry26548**: Appreciate it [23-Dec-23 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: No problem :] [23-Dec-23 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: posted lots of rat BUY [23-Dec-23 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: will try to pay by tomorrow night as i will be busy untill then as a heads up [23-Dec-23 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: they need auto pay selection [23-Dec-23 11:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Took a few of them :] [24-Dec-23 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: All POPI inputs are currently being filled as needed - don't forsee any expenses other than programs in the two-three coming weeks. Going to use the next tax dividend to increase the warehouse by a level whenever I get supplies sorted out [24-Dec-23 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: wooo more storage. [24-Dec-23 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I like having that extra storage...mostly keep governor supplies seperate from my production supplies :] [24-Dec-23 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: ^+1 [24-Dec-23 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ya while back i bankrolled a level to get us from 1k->1.5k those levels arnt cheap [24-Dec-23 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Luckily it seems $CNS upped from level 5 -> level 6, so next upgrade gives increased max units [24-Dec-23 06:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera8ccff2b11** left.* [25-Dec-23 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Don't lend too much credit of base numbers lending accurate HQ levels off-of someone's company tab. [25-Dec-23 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Some of us are actually really big (in Japan) ;) [25-Dec-23 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: LEAD provides actual metrics, if you can find pplz corps in the listings. [25-Dec-23 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CandiceRichter** joined.* [25-Dec-23 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Oktasat** left.* [25-Dec-23 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Finished the upgrade for warehouse to level 7 - you can now rent 4 units for a total of 2000t/2000m if you want :] [25-Dec-23 09:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: It's a Christmas miracle! [25-Dec-23 09:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SurvivorBob** deleted this message.* [25-Dec-23 09:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: 3x HRT -> AVA total 465/450 posted HRT LM [27-Dec-23 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Remember -- Every vote for me is 1000 ICA towards nuking Promitor! [27-Dec-23 06:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: woah woah woah [27-Dec-23 06:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: hold on what do i get out of a nuked promitor? [27-Dec-23 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: More...space? :] [27-Dec-23 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **YuLun**: 500t / m³ Ava -> HRT / Prom, dm or post to LM, I'd come back and check in 9 hours I think [27-Dec-23 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Wait, I don't want to have to change my vote. [27-Dec-23 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Are we flexible on the nuking thing? [27-Dec-23 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: We can be sort of flexible [27-Dec-23 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Suggest another target and we can work things out :] [27-Dec-23 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Deep space where no one lives? [27-Dec-23 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: A nice fireworks show? [27-Dec-23 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Hm... [27-Dec-23 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: We could always nuke VH-331e for the heck of it? [27-Dec-23 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Right in our front yard [27-Dec-23 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Fine. Dantooine. They're on Dantooine. [27-Dec-23 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Lmao [27-Dec-23 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I can tolerate VH-331e as a target. Detonations might even warm the place up a little. [27-Dec-23 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: "Commence primary ignition" [27-Dec-23 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Something something foul stench. [27-Dec-23 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: :] [27-Dec-23 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vention**: I for one think that nuking Prom could be a good thing. No need to make GMOs when fallout can just do the whole mutation thing for us right? Mutfruit, Tatoes, and Razorgrain for all, I say [27-Dec-23 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: No. [27-Dec-23 09:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: What about the cash crop that is tomacco [27-Dec-23 09:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: No. [27-Dec-23 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vention**: Unfortunately, Simpson Inc. (Currently chaired by Lisa Simpson III) owns the genetic rights to that particular mutation. We could try for Tobato though? The fresh and safe(TM) alternative? [28-Dec-23 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: Did I miss a planetary nuclear bombardment event? [28-Dec-23 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: Should have reserved tickets online (: [29-Dec-23 01:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **harry26548**: Did a dumb, if anyone has EXO on LM [29-Dec-23 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DampflokTV** joined.* [29-Dec-23 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DampflokTV**: Hello [29-Dec-23 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Hello! :o [29-Dec-23 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: Hello! [29-Dec-23 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DampflokTV**: Hey, whats the best way to get some Iron? [29-Dec-23 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DampflokTV**: I did buy some and i do have a ware house, but i have no idea how the pruchased items will be put into my warehouse [29-Dec-23 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: Ib guess you bought at CX, so the Iron is at the CX, thanx IT ITS actial in Contracts and If you have a ship at the CX you can fullfill the contract, thanx you will have IT in your ahip [29-Dec-23 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DampflokTV**: Ok, i need to send the ship to the station then to pick it up? [29-Dec-23 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: Right [29-Dec-23 05:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DampflokTV**: I clicked fullfill and now i have it in the warehouse, ok i will send a ship then, thx [30-Dec-23 12:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kitsejuust** left.* [30-Dec-23 01:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Darth_Merkel** joined.* [30-Dec-23 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OneTry** deleted this message.* [31-Dec-23 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3200eb0a9f** left.* [01-Jan-24 01:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gnu-Boot** left.* [01-Jan-24 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: lots of RAT and DW buy posted [01-Jan-24 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: dang just shipped a bunch of both out to HRT [01-Jan-24 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: sorry [01-Jan-24 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: will pay by tomorrow night, tonight if accepted soon [01-Jan-24 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: 👍 [01-Jan-24 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***funfolder** joined.* [02-Jan-24 05:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mortos** joined.* [02-Jan-24 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheVanquish121** deleted this message.* [02-Jan-24 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Does anyone have extra PG I could buy? [02-Jan-24 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Lemme check [02-Jan-24 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: How much you thinking about? [02-Jan-24 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Like 500 would be ideal, if not like 350 [02-Jan-24 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: 500 would be fine - let me check prices then I'll send you a contract :] [03-Jan-24 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dzentak** joined.* [04-Jan-24 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Darth_Merkel**: Hey, new Neighbor here, currently moving my food processing up here from Promitor. Anything i should be aware of? :D [04-Jan-24 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Pretty straightforward place. Bring your crops here and take the food away. [04-Jan-24 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: You can fit 12 pioneer habs and 28 food processors in a 500 area base [04-Jan-24 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: with a storage building [04-Jan-24 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ashes**: probably don't wanna make 28 FPs tho, they eat A LOT of crops [04-Jan-24 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: yeah that wont work unless you're doing HER -> FIM -> MEA [04-Jan-24 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Or if you have a whooole lot of inputs ;] [04-Jan-24 07:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: If you _do_ have many inputs, though, you can drown the world in RATs. Chittering, squeaking, skittering RATs. Or at least try (: [04-Jan-24 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Between my two farm bases and my RIG planet, I'm able to keep 28 FPs going. Before I had the RIG planet it was hard though. [05-Jan-24 01:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Darth_Merkel**: Where is your RIG Planet? @P-Money [05-Jan-24 01:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: boucher [05-Jan-24 01:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Darth_Merkel**: thanks! [05-Jan-24 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Heibaytoi** joined.* [05-Jan-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CriticalThinking** joined.* [05-Jan-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CriticalThinking**: Hello fellow space farmers [05-Jan-24 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Hello! [05-Jan-24 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lilLite** joined.* [05-Jan-24 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lilLite** left.* [05-Jan-24 07:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Welcome to the planet. [06-Jan-24 02:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***J.Shepard** left.* [06-Jan-24 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RazrRagz** left.* [07-Jan-24 03:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***24harborrun** joined.* [07-Jan-24 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nano_xXx** joined.* [08-Jan-24 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SmartSquirel** joined.* [08-Jan-24 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Repare** left.* [08-Jan-24 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: POPI has been filled for next 20-30d, also thanks to a little help from @Kalinda :] [08-Jan-24 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MXSTXR** joined.* [09-Jan-24 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***StormSouza** joined.* [09-Jan-24 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nanny**: 220t to HRT @ 4k ICA posted to LM [10-Jan-24 01:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FlammaVarga** left.* [10-Jan-24 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hendrig** joined.* [11-Jan-24 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LancerCaster** joined.* [11-Jan-24 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LancerCaster**: I have successfully invaded Avalon! [11-Jan-24 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: There goes the neighborhood. [11-Jan-24 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Oooh another taxpayer?? [11-Jan-24 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: oh man our property value! [11-Jan-24 07:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: https://i.imgur.com/EFqRbev.png {Embed} https://imgur.com/EFqRbev Me when I buy 400 extra rolls of toilet paper in case I get an upper respiratory infection and have to stay home for a couple weeks https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/8ocru5RgdACbY9hhgmInv9ytyDPcKhZFvxZQwzbx_Z0/https/i.imgur.com/EFqRbevh.jpg [11-Jan-24 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: good timing [12-Jan-24 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: Hey [12-Jan-24 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: who is selling rat and DW :D [12-Jan-24 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: i sell DW [12-Jan-24 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: im about to post some DW and rat buy ads :3 [12-Jan-24 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: perfect :> [12-Jan-24 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: why not buy off CX? [12-Jan-24 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: i use it here, avoid shipping [12-Jan-24 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: i dont have ships in region [12-Jan-24 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: and i use a hell ton [12-Jan-24 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: ah, ill take the rest later, leave a chance for new players to sell ;p [12-Jan-24 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: XD as long as they get filled :3 [12-Jan-24 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: i try n do 14 ish days supply at time as work is busy busy [12-Jan-24 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: well i can sell at market price here in the future if you like [12-Jan-24 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: im not sure when that will be but i will always try n post ads for at or little higher than ask at cx [12-Jan-24 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: better for me to sell on planet anyways c: [12-Jan-24 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: :D [12-Jan-24 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: Bedtime, all contracts filled will likey be payed tomorrow night or sunday as its my off day. Thanks fellow travelers [13-Jan-24 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Heibaytoi** left.* [14-Jan-24 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ined** joined.* [15-Jan-24 03:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: it looks like 3 permits on promotor will be enough to supply 1 full permit here [15-Jan-24 04:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Just barely not enough, unless you also have HYF [15-Jan-24 04:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Darth_Merkel**: What ratio are you guys running? I have 24 FRM and 2 HYF on Prom and currently and 20 FP here [15-Jan-24 04:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: 28frm to 23 fp [15-Jan-24 04:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: 27frm rather [15-Jan-24 04:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: thats the wrong number, sorry, 23 was 2 permits of farms, 27frm to 28fp [15-Jan-24 04:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: 4/4 permits being used [15-Jan-24 04:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: if i stick a corp hq on avalon my demand will be just over the production on promitor [15-Jan-24 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***schoos76** joined.* [15-Jan-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Darth_Merkel**: how do you get 4 Permits, isnt 3 the limit? [15-Jan-24 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: Upgrading your HQ gives you more permits [15-Jan-24 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Three permits is the limit per planet, but you can have more than one base. [15-Jan-24 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: There's a limit at some point for free accounts, but I don't remember what it is off hand. [15-Jan-24 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: As @SurvivorBob said, you get more permits by upgrading your HQ, which becomes increasingly expensive. [15-Jan-24 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: The limit for a free account is eith 5 or 6 permits. I wanna say it was 6 [15-Jan-24 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: @Dzentak, it's worth noting you can't put Corp HQs on any original starter planet - Promitor, Avalon, Montem, and Vallis to name a few [15-Jan-24 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: well i dont need to fully build out promitor then at 3 permits, i can do some other things besides frm at least for myself [15-Jan-24 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I only put 1 permit on each of my planets [15-Jan-24 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I usually try to only put 1 permit per planet, but I can easily justify three on Promitor, and more than one on Boucher [15-Jan-24 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Morlup** joined.* [17-Jan-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MXSTXR** left.* [17-Jan-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***schmeck13** joined.* [17-Jan-24 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Misswutttttt** joined.* [17-Jan-24 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***StormSouza** left.* [17-Jan-24 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Anyone shipping Avalon --> HRT? [17-Jan-24 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Need like 1k/1k [17-Jan-24 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: nm [18-Jan-24 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Almost all expenses between December 17 and January 18 seem to be covered by the tax dividends received within those times - past month only running ~75k in the red. I've been logging expenses and revenues since taking up governorship but haven't made it public. If enough people are interested I could try and throw together ~monthly reports, though they'll be ugly and somewhat inaccurate at representing the situation entirely [18-Jan-24 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: It might be interesting to see for curiosity's sake, but I trust your governance. [18-Jan-24 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Only problem with logging it as such is that I don't really buy/bring supplies in every week or something to correspond with taxes and such, I just buy/stock up on them randomly when needed, like monthly sometimes then weekly sometimes [18-Jan-24 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I'll play around with formats and stuff to see if I can log the upcoming month in a favorable way :o [18-Jan-24 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Alright! I played around with formats for a while and settled with this - The following shows a (hopefully) really accurate summary of the past month of Avalon's expenses and revenues. If this is something you guys would like me to continue feel free to ask and I'll try to make monthly ones :] [18-Jan-24 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRxx-NeQICp-Rq5DULw20mq6pmYbV_Ly948AErxrtVmbD-6vqYhnwj0BWMpbqAb-Br1MvX6jhE89bLG/pubhtml# [18-Jan-24 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: Enlightening, thanks for assembling the report! [18-Jan-24 11:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: 100% unforged and not covering up for any embezzlement! :] [18-Jan-24 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: But serious - thanks for the feedback :p [18-Jan-24 11:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: As long as the embezzlement is for the nuking of Promitor or the consumption of PIOs or SETs in INCs then it's not embezzlement, it's a line item (: [18-Jan-24 11:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Amen brother ! [18-Jan-24 11:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: :O [18-Jan-24 11:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Er I mean... [18-Jan-24 11:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Such talk always comes up during election time [18-Jan-24 11:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: We have no weapons of mass destruction...? [18-Jan-24 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: @SCHAITR what can I say.. the voters are just drawn to it? [19-Jan-24 01:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Taxes have been set to the minimum as @worvand was generous enough to pay for the next week ! :] [19-Jan-24 01:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: 💸💸💸 [19-Jan-24 03:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **GeneralZ**: someone got 30 CAF? ad on LM [19-Jan-24 06:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ranvids**: Will have 400m3 free cargo Avalon>HRT in about 10 hours if anyone is interested [19-Jan-24 08:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: We are not incinerating anybody, whether that be in charcoal burners or with nuclear weapons. >:( [19-Jan-24 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: pfft, says you [19-Jan-24 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: if we blast a crater in promitor, then it will fill up water, right? easy water [19-Jan-24 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: :O [19-Jan-24 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I don't think that would help. [19-Jan-24 09:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Because I would drown you in it. [19-Jan-24 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: D: [19-Jan-24 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: How'll you drown someone with the word "water" in their name? [19-Jan-24 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: In water. [19-Jan-24 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: I guess that makes sense [19-Jan-24 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: might take a while tho [19-Jan-24 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Everything in this game takes a while. [19-Jan-24 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I wonder how long the nuke would take to build and then deploy 🤔 [19-Jan-24 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Asking the real questions out here lmao [19-Jan-24 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rustbite** left.* [19-Jan-24 02:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: LOL [19-Jan-24 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***filipe.sbp** joined.* [19-Jan-24 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Was that upgrade just in case the nukes have an "accident"? [19-Jan-24 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Oh no, I'm sure it's completely unrelated! [19-Jan-24 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***marchioro** joined.* [19-Jan-24 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Pay no attention to the uranium refinery upgrade in a few minutes! [19-Jan-24 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Er nooo, the population is always entirely safe...no need to worry about that :) [20-Jan-24 06:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DRAKONIT** joined.* [20-Jan-24 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3d334d779c** left.* [20-Jan-24 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***StercusTauri** joined.* [23-Jan-24 07:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***robbie048** joined.* [23-Jan-24 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc61a309e33** left.* [23-Jan-24 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ckiser** joined.* [24-Jan-24 05:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lazrith_Draven** left.* [24-Jan-24 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DadBpd** left.* [24-Jan-24 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vile_Adventurer** left.* [24-Jan-24 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: RAt and DW buy posted [24-Jan-24 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: XD i know there is a lot of competion with those other high volume orders [24-Jan-24 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: Transmitted RAT, may your house be ever full [25-Jan-24 04:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0619cf459d** left.* [25-Jan-24 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Janelle1116** joined.* [26-Jan-24 09:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vention** deleted this message.* [26-Jan-24 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Timipro69** joined.* [27-Jan-24 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ablabla** left.* [27-Jan-24 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Balun2018** joined.* [27-Jan-24 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RayBoyo** joined.* [27-Jan-24 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ranvids**: WTB 300 units RAT in Avalon and 300 in Promitor [27-Jan-24 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I could provide the 300 on Avalon [27-Jan-24 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Just send me a contract or post LM asking for slightly less than market value [27-Jan-24 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ranvids**: 90 unit? [27-Jan-24 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Sure. [27-Jan-24 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ranvids**: thank you. Still need em in Promitor :D then [27-Jan-24 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Sadly I've been slacking with keeping my own base there supplied so can't help you this time around! Haha [27-Jan-24 05:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ranvids**: np :D [27-Jan-24 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RayBoyo** left.* [27-Jan-24 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RayBoyo** joined.* [27-Jan-24 06:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **YuLun**: 450t/m³ Ava -> HRT (-> Prom), leaving tomorrow morning (hopefully after about 8 hours) [27-Jan-24 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **YuLun**: Would call again before leaving, and good night Avalon :) [27-Jan-24 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RayBoyo** left.* [28-Jan-24 12:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Alrighty taxes have been raised to their previous level - Thanks again @worvand for helping out with funding that last week for lower taxes :] [28-Jan-24 06:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DRAKONIT** left.* [28-Jan-24 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **GeneralZ**: someone got 58 MAI? need it for the faction quests. AD on LM [28-Jan-24 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***monsooncrackle** joined.* [28-Jan-24 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***StercusTauri** left.* [28-Jan-24 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tantypants** joined.* [29-Jan-24 07:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ranvids**: wtb 300 rat in boucher or promitor or hrt [29-Jan-24 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mr.McSquiggy** joined.* [29-Jan-24 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I'll send a contract for HRT if you still need it [29-Jan-24 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ranvids**: yes!! [29-Jan-24 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ranvids**: next time 90 u pls [29-Jan-24 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ranvids**: @MysteriousWalrus [29-Jan-24 11:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: 👍 [29-Jan-24 02:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AntAndOnion** joined.* [29-Jan-24 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Anyone have any PG i could buy here? [29-Jan-24 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Like 200 [29-Jan-24 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: @TheVanquish121 i can spot you at market rate. [29-Jan-24 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: send the cont if you want. [29-Jan-24 05:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Yeah thanks I will [29-Jan-24 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: @roh why cant i find you on recipients [29-Jan-24 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: lmao [29-Jan-24 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: erm, type my name in as Roh [29-Jan-24 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: i think it's case sensitive [29-Jan-24 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: It should have sent lol dont know why that was so hard [29-Jan-24 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: LOL. filled :P [29-Jan-24 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Saved my gd life thank you! [29-Jan-24 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: PG is life, if you deal with DW these days. [29-Jan-24 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Yeah im eating lots over on Wet Water lol [29-Jan-24 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: forgot I still need some here [29-Jan-24 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Procur** joined.* [29-Jan-24 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Procur**: I heard this is where the cool kids chat [29-Jan-24 07:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: It is. Do you smoke? If not, you might as well COLIQ, since you'll never be kool. :P [29-Jan-24 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: This is, in fact, Kool Kids HQ. [29-Jan-24 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Thanks, @Andy97 for the infrastructure upgrade >:D [29-Jan-24 08:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: No problem! [30-Jan-24 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zuul** left.* [31-Jan-24 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***k4el** joined.* [01-Feb-24 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: I wonder what kind of secret shipment is being sent all around the galaxy by @worvand 🤔 [01-Feb-24 05:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: actual nukes [01-Feb-24 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YuLun**: must be [01-Feb-24 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YuLun**: nukes always got moved around frequently [01-Feb-24 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LaenUnder** joined.* [01-Feb-24 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: buying rations above hrt price [01-Feb-24 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***g.epoch** joined.* [01-Feb-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: @Dzentak I got 200 you can take now and 200 more in 36 hours if you wanna send a contract or on LM [01-Feb-24 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I got you @Dzentak. I'll fulfill as soon as I see the payment :) [01-Feb-24 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: didnt see the message [02-Feb-24 01:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Samdroid_** left.* [02-Feb-24 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: @--SCHAITR-- shhh the contents of the package must not be revealed [02-Feb-24 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RavenRapier** joined.* [03-Feb-24 02:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***aCensor** joined.* [03-Feb-24 05:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: I mean those parcels are fairly obvious, regarding what they could be carrying. [03-Feb-24 05:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Obvious to the extent that they're some sort of electronics commodity, from a CLR, EDM, or ELP. They're unlikely to be an intermediary product, and more likely to be an end-use thing like CDs or MHPs (to be used in POPI upkeep), since there's no utility in sending electronics intermediaries, of such little size, across the galaxy, since bases that make them will be integrated for production requirements. [03-Feb-24 05:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Since the shipping tallies only provide 2 decimal places beyond the whole number, and since it's so small, I can't determine what's exactly in there, only a really good guess, since nothing else fits the parameters :P [03-Feb-24 05:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: So, not the plutonium but just the triggering mechanisms? [03-Feb-24 05:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: or maybe some recently filled porn that's been burned to a CD, and it needs to hit the universe-wide broadcasting network, really fast? [03-Feb-24 05:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Likely not SWF or MWF. It could be a RAD (i didnt know they were so tiny). RADs are used for BRS production for STL ships, so it's very likely that. [03-Feb-24 05:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: The other high likelihood is just a handful of PDAs or SCNs (high tier pop consumables) [03-Feb-24 05:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Yes, you can get fairly accurate intelligence from what's available in this game. Public shipping ads can be correlated with commodity properties to give highly probable estimates of cargo values, and I can grab all of your basic base information to figure which sort of probability is the highest. [03-Feb-24 05:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: I hear people complain of piracy, but i think most who do it are just dumb. [03-Feb-24 05:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: If you had actual pirates in here, they would be sniping high value shipments with a high probability factor, and play it off as "shipping errors" as much as they could on the communication platforms, until they could cash out and transfer the loot to a a fund willing to launder the money. [03-Feb-24 05:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Be lucky that you play this game, and not Eve Online XD [03-Feb-24 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: Ad on LM, buying DW x200, 100/u [03-Feb-24 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: I didn't mess up 👀 [03-Feb-24 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: What's up with the ultra light shipping ads on LM? [03-Feb-24 12:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: not even .01t [03-Feb-24 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Timipro69** left.* [03-Feb-24 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: :] [03-Feb-24 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Surrealcookie** joined.* [03-Feb-24 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RayKowalchuk**: There's a company named Tch-inc whose Managing Driector is named 62. I click on their name and a red buffer comes up that says "No user for input [input]." I can't submit communication to them. Is this person real, or a bot? They have 11 bases, including on Avalon. [04-Feb-24 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OhneNamederEchte** joined.* [04-Feb-24 06:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YuLun**: I think that's just apex can't handle purely numeric user name atm [04-Feb-24 06:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YuLun**: nope, @1000 works [04-Feb-24 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: @RayKowalchuk scroll up, I commented on those shipments. [04-Feb-24 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **nanny**: need 343t shipped from HRT->Avaon, 5000 ICA [04-Feb-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **nanny**: also need 210t shipped Ava->Prom [04-Feb-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **nanny**: 2500 ICA [04-Feb-24 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **nanny**: both taken, ty [05-Feb-24 04:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: Anyone need some shipping avalon > HRT/prom [05-Feb-24 04:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: Leaving in an hour or two [05-Feb-24 04:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: ill post on lm [05-Feb-24 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user93c9ebc831** left.* [05-Feb-24 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Anyone need Avalon --> Boucher? [06-Feb-24 03:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: Avalon > HRT/prom leaving in 3 hours or when cargo full [06-Feb-24 03:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: Up to 500t free [06-Feb-24 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rob11** joined.* [06-Feb-24 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rob11** left.* [07-Feb-24 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: This latest finance report is being finished before I expected. Going forward I will try to post them on the first Sunday of a month, though I might engage in some tomfoolery here and there. Numbers look weird as, if you look in the transactions page, there was a giant donation and thus money was put towards improving Avalon's infrastructure. Next report will is expected on March 3rd, in which I expect less costs from population inputs, resulting in some money I can put towards warehousing or something else useful. Please let me know if you're interested in seeing these going forward! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/3/d/e/2PACX-1vSyXHLe7fMgXp3v2_WMDFZY84N6xOj7J09fYmw8_iK-uxkXFMCaXBurQ-PQ8Dnfe3MP2dnYu0kkGFP4/pubhtml# [07-Feb-24 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: Enlightening. Thanks for the report! [07-Feb-24 07:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: o7 [08-Feb-24 02:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rowbot**: This is awesome, thank you Walrus of Mystery! [08-Feb-24 07:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YuLun**: prom -> ava hopefully 400t/m³ arrive within one day, departure in 10~15 mins [08-Feb-24 07:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YuLun**: *correction: 300t/m³ [08-Feb-24 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Keep the FIN REPs coming, they're great! [08-Feb-24 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Thanks, will do! 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Forgot to refil this weekend [12-Feb-24 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alexgil8** joined.* [12-Feb-24 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***g.epoch** left.* [12-Feb-24 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ERROR_X2** joined.* [12-Feb-24 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: Avalon -> Prom. lots of space leaving in the next few hours. [13-Feb-24 01:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ferrous** joined.* [13-Feb-24 02:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***G11steel** joined.* [13-Feb-24 04:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ranvids**: i have about 490/490 free space Avalon>Boucher and 300/400 HRT>Boucher available [13-Feb-24 04:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ranvids**: departing in 1 hour [14-Feb-24 02:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***zarasophos** joined.* [14-Feb-24 02:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Brave_Sir_Robin** left.* [15-Feb-24 04:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***martinc1194** deleted this message.* [15-Feb-24 04:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **martinc1194**: LOG.AI1 70k@1 buy order [15-Feb-24 04:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **martinc1194**: opps. wrong channel my bad [15-Feb-24 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AmosMoses** joined.* [15-Feb-24 11:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: https://i.imgur.com/5DNHzBT.png my third ship project done at avalon {Embed} https://imgur.com/5DNHzBT https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/c93viNokTwB5RpDo3HBdTm5YJDdd2rQrsvZ_VguLAVI/https/i.imgur.com/5DNHzBT.png [15-Feb-24 11:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Sweet! My next shipyard project should be done in ~13h :o [15-Feb-24 11:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: this one takes 22.5 hours [15-Feb-24 11:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: cant wait for the extra shipping capacity [15-Feb-24 11:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: https://imgur.com/a/BRTdpQw {Embed} https://imgur.com/a/BRTdpQw Untitled Album https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/EIWWyDHKTHOc8CQh2kS1xPtvgbOWoqEaQCrwa-Q9GSA/https/i.imgur.com/BTRPH9th.jpg [15-Feb-24 11:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Extra shipping capacity is a blessing :] [15-Feb-24 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: so much yes, and i need tons, im getting a 2k from craftsman and thinking about taking another from GTU just for the timely [15-Feb-24 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: since GTU order queue is nearly empty [15-Feb-24 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: CraftsmanThirteen is amazing. [15-Feb-24 11:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: GTU is just able to pump them out, but his prices are unbeatable :p [15-Feb-24 11:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: yes, im gonna get a second from him because of his prices lol [15-Feb-24 11:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: the waiting is just suck [15-Feb-24 11:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I got an WCB from him. I'm on his list for another WCB and an LCB [15-Feb-24 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: wow leave some room in his queue for me [15-Feb-24 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Luckily it gives me time to build up the money necessary ;P [15-Feb-24 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: lmaoo [15-Feb-24 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: im not getting mine until sometime march [15-Feb-24 11:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: That's roughly the time he said for mine :] [16-Feb-24 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: How much lol [16-Feb-24 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: and what does LCB/WCB stand for? [16-Feb-24 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: his price an LCB is 2.75M and LCB/WCB stands for a ship with 2k/2k and 3000t/1000m storage respectivly [16-Feb-24 12:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: its weird he doesnt advertize his prices lol, he would have a year long queue if he did [16-Feb-24 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **GeneralZ**: anyone got 6 BBH, 2 BSE and 6 BDE? ads on LM [16-Feb-24 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YuLun**: got you :) [16-Feb-24 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **GeneralZ**: ty [16-Feb-24 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Darth_Merkel**: Anyone got some spare PT lying around? I kind of forgot that if i want to built HYF and have settlers i need some more consumables... planned everything except that... [16-Feb-24 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Darth_Merkel**: Thanks copy2! [16-Feb-24 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Exobros** left.* [16-Feb-24 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Haxov** joined.* [16-Feb-24 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: LCB just means large cargo bay. WCB stands for weight cargo bay (even though in-game it's called a High-Load Cargo Bay) because it prioritizes weight capacity over volume [16-Feb-24 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I think there is also a VCB which does the opposite, prioritizing volume over weight [16-Feb-24 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I'd definitely think about getting one of those if I made a base on Hydron [16-Feb-24 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dixon_Cider** joined.* [16-Feb-24 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dixon_Cider** left.* [17-Feb-24 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***harry26548** left.* [18-Feb-24 06:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kaldi** joined.* [18-Feb-24 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrafanGravanc** joined.* [18-Feb-24 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: DW rat buy posted [18-Feb-24 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DrafanGravanc**: Whats up neighbors [18-Feb-24 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Helloo! [18-Feb-24 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: 😁 [18-Feb-24 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: heyo [18-Feb-24 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Yo! Welcome to the party! [19-Feb-24 04:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***jhsubstance** joined.* [19-Feb-24 06:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rakkzi** joined.* [19-Feb-24 06:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DeniedClimax** left.* [19-Feb-24 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***homeless_starship** joined.* [20-Feb-24 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***assjackets** joined.* [20-Feb-24 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **assjackets**: o7 [20-Feb-24 06:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **assjackets**: The cult has made landfall, already we see some familiar faces and can't wait to meet the rest! [20-Feb-24 07:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Welcome aboard. [20-Feb-24 07:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Hellloo! [20-Feb-24 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: o7 [20-Feb-24 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DrafanGravanc**: Yoooooo [20-Feb-24 10:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: rats up on LM [21-Feb-24 01:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ferrous** left.* [21-Feb-24 02:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***G11steel** left.* [21-Feb-24 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **mottin**: ship for sale at Prom´s LM [21-Feb-24 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **mottin**: there are two versions of engine and cargo bay ENG / FSE and WCB / VCB [21-Feb-24 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Alexgil8** left.* [22-Feb-24 12:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LaenUnder** left.* [22-Feb-24 05:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: anyone got some spare PWO, wasn't paying attention and have almost run out >.< [22-Feb-24 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YuLun**: there you go :) [22-Feb-24 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: tyvm :) [22-Feb-24 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: more rats on LM [22-Feb-24 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: potential to give discount on RATs to returning customers - message me to arrange something [23-Feb-24 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Parek0** joined.* [23-Feb-24 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gravy** left.* [23-Feb-24 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Going into my fifth term as governor of Avalon, currently in a good spot financially. Look forward to collecting more taxes from you silly people :} [23-Feb-24 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jacchus** joined.* [23-Feb-24 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: wow haha i love taxes, i get to be called silly :] [23-Feb-24 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: taxes mean i dont have to worry about infrastructure upkeep. :D [23-Feb-24 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sapho** joined.* [23-Feb-24 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **GeneralZ**: buying 67 HCP, ad on LM (for faction quest) [23-Feb-24 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **GeneralZ**: lol...its 69 not 67, ad for 2 on LM [23-Feb-24 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **GeneralZ**: ty [23-Feb-24 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Procur**: Yeah, cost of 300 SUN is pretty rough at market rates [23-Feb-24 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Procur**: And that's just 1 component of 1 piece of infrastructure lol [23-Feb-24 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: easy to make tho [23-Feb-24 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Procur**: Fair [23-Feb-24 11:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***kllewellyn** joined.* [24-Feb-24 04:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: RATs up on LM [24-Feb-24 05:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ranvids**: @tantypants do u have discord? :D [24-Feb-24 05:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ranvids**: would need about 1300 rats / weekly maybe we could do a deal each week? [24-Feb-24 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: sure, my tag is tantrum [24-Feb-24 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FUC_Prozer** joined.* [24-Feb-24 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ranvids**: any rat at split price? [24-Feb-24 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Afraib_Ollej** left.* [25-Feb-24 12:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Circle_of_Life**: 100 t/m LM ad on HRT to Avalon if anyone needs a tiny cash ;) may post a few more [25-Feb-24 05:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ranvids**: anyone has 700 RATs in Avalon? [25-Feb-24 05:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ranvids**: paying 100/unit [25-Feb-24 06:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ranvids**: still looking for those RATs [25-Feb-24 02:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ranvids**: still looking for rats [25-Feb-24 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ranvids**: WTB RATs Hortrus - Avalon offering 100/u [25-Feb-24 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Still looking for 700 @Ranvids? [25-Feb-24 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ranvids**: yes [25-Feb-24 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I'll send a contract. [25-Feb-24 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ranvids**: chad [25-Feb-24 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ranvids**: thanks [25-Feb-24 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: No problem. [25-Feb-24 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Ranvids**: hero [26-Feb-24 06:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Castarn** joined.* [26-Feb-24 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wolfoo** joined.* [26-Feb-24 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Can I buy some H20 and PWO from anyone here? Thank you! [26-Feb-24 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: How much of each? I have H2O available [26-Feb-24 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: like 2 K would be perfect. For PWO ideally like 20 [26-Feb-24 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DrafanGravanc**: Anyone have any OVE they're able to sell me? Posted an LM ad :] [26-Feb-24 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: @TheVanquish121 sent you a water contract [26-Feb-24 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Anyone have some extra Agri here? [26-Feb-24 06:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Anyone need any shipping off of Avalon? in ~3h I have 2x 3000t/1000m leaving for HRT [26-Feb-24 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Departed :p [27-Feb-24 01:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marismols**: Need help with 20 PWO. LM. Thanks! 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I'll attach the report so you guys can look over it here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTJnUilm8HsTQcPJxcJMm6KqYQL19M2vwVhK2AmTg0N5gG-jdtBsoG26fXJEcGVzOhDG_eiS4dETgD3/pubhtml# [01-Mar-24 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sleepy_Joe** joined.* [01-Mar-24 06:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: Thanks for the financial report! It's always appreciated, ceterum censeo Promitorem esse delendam. Any concrete plans for the budget surplus? [01-Mar-24 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Current plan is to invest it into infrastructure but that won't necessarily be a long term sink for it - I'll think of ways to use it that could benefit the planet further down the line :p [01-Mar-24 11:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Circle_of_Life**: Way to pull off matching projections to real needs pretty close. I think extra infrastructure investment is good as well [02-Mar-24 04:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: mathematical [02-Mar-24 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Parek0** left.* [02-Mar-24 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CandiceRichter** left.* [03-Mar-24 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***UnscathedMaster** left.* [03-Mar-24 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: rats on LM under cx bid [04-Mar-24 12:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4db6d836cd** left.* [04-Mar-24 02:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: why COGC next fuel refining is coming up when food production has more votes? [04-Mar-24 02:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: fukin huuh [04-Mar-24 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: ⛽️🔥 [04-Mar-24 03:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Its a big where the last vote shows up as the "next" when it isn't [04-Mar-24 03:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: *Bug rather [04-Mar-24 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: It'll take a pretty big coordinated effort to flip the CoGC of Avalon, luckily as Schaitr said, that's just a visual bug [04-Mar-24 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FearForester** joined.* [04-Mar-24 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Circle_of_Life**: We got bugs on our space infrastructure?! [04-Mar-24 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: give the pioneers metal sticks and send them to kill those capitalism hating bugs [04-Mar-24 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nembrot** joined.* [05-Mar-24 01:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dycart** left.* [05-Mar-24 03:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***thisko** joined.* [05-Mar-24 07:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BDDFC** joined.* [05-Mar-24 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Wolfoo** left.* [05-Mar-24 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***kllewellyn** left.* [05-Mar-24 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: more RATs on LM :) [05-Mar-24 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Perrone_Jets** joined.* [06-Mar-24 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2131df535c** left.* [06-Mar-24 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dayzed**: Does anyone perhaps have 48 MCG on Avalon I could buy? [06-Mar-24 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Yeah you can send me a contract if you want [06-Mar-24 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dayzed**: Do I need a PRO license for that [06-Mar-24 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **assjackets**: yee [06-Mar-24 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dayzed**: Dammit [06-Mar-24 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dayzed**: I don't have PRO. But thanks for the tenacity <3 [06-Mar-24 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Lol no worries [07-Mar-24 02:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sapho**: Hi all [07-Mar-24 02:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sapho**: I'm new here and producing fuels [07-Mar-24 02:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Sapho**: is there any corporation managing the investisments in this planete infrastructures ? [07-Mar-24 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Well the governor is MysteriousWalrus and we are in the Citrus Union Corp if that is what you mean [07-Mar-24 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: the citrus union governance bureau is managing it, lead by mysteriouswalrus and the sole employee is mysteriouswalrus, the board meetings are insane i hear. [07-Mar-24 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Can i buy 3 BDE from someone here? [07-Mar-24 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I gotcha. [07-Mar-24 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dayzed**: Should I stay up until 2 AM so I can unload my ag products and start RAT production? [07-Mar-24 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I would go with no. [07-Mar-24 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dayzed**: Haven't produced any all day... Been waiting on my ship to get here from Hortus [07-Mar-24 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Dang. [07-Mar-24 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dayzed**: @Filefolders I think you meant yes [07-Mar-24 10:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Sleepy. [07-Mar-24 10:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: Congratulations, your tempi are now at 2 AM, ceterum censeo Promitorem esse delendam. [07-Mar-24 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **assjackets**: I considered the same thing before, but when all is said and done I would rather have a good night's sleep than make a few extra bucks in a business sim game [07-Mar-24 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dayzed**: That is a rational and smart idea, @assjackets [07-Mar-24 10:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dayzed**: Unfortunately, I am an irrational and dumb man [07-Mar-24 10:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dayzed**: Actually, I am going to leave my PC on and have an autoclicker going where the "unload" button will pop up when it arrives [07-Mar-24 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **assjackets**: perfect lol [08-Mar-24 04:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: isn't there an option to unload on arrival o.0 [08-Mar-24 04:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marismols**: yes if you have pro [08-Mar-24 04:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marismols**: there is an option in fly window - "unload on arrival" [08-Mar-24 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: sadly dayzed doesnt have that :/ also wish you could tick that after the ship already departed. [08-Mar-24 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dayzed**: Sadly I do not have that : ( [08-Mar-24 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dayzed**: So many things a PRO license gives the benefits of [08-Mar-24 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dayzed**: I did end up staying up until 2 AM anyways, not only for this game but I was playing SWTOR with some buddies [08-Mar-24 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc531aaa7c0** left.* [09-Mar-24 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Keroe** joined.* [09-Mar-24 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Keroe** left.* [09-Mar-24 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Keroe** joined.* [09-Mar-24 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dayzed**: Why did @Keroe join twice? [10-Mar-24 12:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: prob made base, deleted base, and then remade [10-Mar-24 07:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sleepy_Joe** left.* [10-Mar-24 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Does anyone here have a teensy bit of STL fuel for sale on-planet? [10-Mar-24 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I have a small bit I keep here for if people get stuck, how much you need @FIilefolders? [10-Mar-24 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Uh, a hundred, two hundred? [10-Mar-24 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I forgot to leave fuel behind for my new ship project. [10-Mar-24 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Also one of the reasons I keep some stocked here hahaha - contract sent [10-Mar-24 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Thanks, bossman. [10-Mar-24 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: o7 [10-Mar-24 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dayzed**: I'm going to commit severe acts of treason against Insitor Cooperative if I get 3 planetary survey contract offers in a row again [10-Mar-24 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: XD [10-Mar-24 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I don't blame you one bit @Dayzed [11-Mar-24 03:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: RATs up on LM. cheaper than cx ask :P [11-Mar-24 03:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: cheaper than bid too* [11-Mar-24 03:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: heheh [11-Mar-24 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BDDFC**: anyone got like 50 rations for sale? ill pay 120 a pop [11-Mar-24 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BDDFC**: need an emergency restock [11-Mar-24 06:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BDDFC**: done messed up and accidentally took em all with my ship back to hortus fml [11-Mar-24 06:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: i can help you @BDDFC [11-Mar-24 06:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: if no one else has [11-Mar-24 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BDDFC**: sent, and thank you [11-Mar-24 07:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: no worries :) [11-Mar-24 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user48c6dd9b4a** left.* [11-Mar-24 09:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheFrayZer** joined.* [12-Mar-24 07:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JJWPE** joined.* [12-Mar-24 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***profitprophet** joined.* [12-Mar-24 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***FearForester** left.* [12-Mar-24 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Anyone need shipping to HRT? [12-Mar-24 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **stackem**: Anybody want to buy CAF? DM me and we can talk [13-Mar-24 05:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Klugen** left.* [13-Mar-24 07:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Perrone_Jets** left.* [14-Mar-24 01:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ISHO** joined.* [14-Mar-24 11:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user70f517c84a** left.* [15-Mar-24 03:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user829521d8d3** left.* [15-Mar-24 04:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JoeRider85** joined.* [16-Mar-24 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Paradigm55** joined.* [16-Mar-24 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ilikebabaganoush** joined.* [17-Mar-24 02:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Have a small LM ad buying MCG if anyone could fill it. My organization has been lacking these past few days 😁 [17-Mar-24 02:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: :) [17-Mar-24 02:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Much appreciated! :p [17-Mar-24 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ilikebabaganoush** left.* [17-Mar-24 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ptdnxyz** joined.* [17-Mar-24 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: anyone need shipping avalon to HRT/prom? [17-Mar-24 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: 500m^3 left [18-Mar-24 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Crazy.Banana** joined.* [18-Mar-24 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***_Daimyo_** joined.* [18-Mar-24 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: Hello everyone. I've been on Promitor for half a year and have been trying not to take the obvious base but I'm finally here. [18-Mar-24 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: ayo welcome [18-Mar-24 11:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Welcome :] [19-Mar-24 12:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: About time! [19-Mar-24 12:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Welcome aboard. [19-Mar-24 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Harvey_Goldfield** joined.* [19-Mar-24 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Harvey_Goldfield**: Welcome aboard :) [19-Mar-24 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: I've got water shipments to Avalon but they're taking longer than I expected, anyone want to sell me a thousand or so water at CX ask? :) [19-Mar-24 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: I set up 25 FPs immediately and am only making DW so I haven't had time to make more runs [19-Mar-24 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: rats up on LM [20-Mar-24 03:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***natury** joined.* [20-Mar-24 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gasgano**: Hello fellow foodies. If anyone feels like Avalon is too small, I invite you all to join our agro&food productions pair of planets, i.e. Lemuria (AJ-768a) and AJ-120b :) [20-Mar-24 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Harvey_Goldfield**: how far away are they? Do they have enough population? [20-Mar-24 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gasgano**: Well... click and find out :) I fly a day to both, but between them is just a few hours. Lemuria has decent pio pop, and starting it's settlers pop. AJ-120b has been set up by me a few days ago so it's just getting up with everything [20-Mar-24 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mathcrimes02** joined.* [21-Mar-24 04:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OldPopsy** joined.* [21-Mar-24 05:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***frozenice** joined.* [21-Mar-24 07:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc3b3fc4feb** left.* [21-Mar-24 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***weristsodumm** joined.* [21-Mar-24 11:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NotPeaK** joined.* [22-Mar-24 04:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***robbie048** left.* [22-Mar-24 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Easyc430** joined.* [22-Mar-24 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Look forward to serving another term as governor, don't have anything much to say other than thanks and I'll continue doing my best :} [22-Mar-24 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: 👏 [22-Mar-24 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***_Gene_O** joined.* [23-Mar-24 01:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gasgano**: Long live the Walrus [23-Mar-24 03:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***natury** left.* [23-Mar-24 06:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***akina2024** joined.* [23-Mar-24 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Here here! [23-Mar-24 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***_Gene_O** left.* [24-Mar-24 02:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***iHateAnime** joined.* [24-Mar-24 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JCham** joined.* [25-Mar-24 04:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: some RAT buy orders on LM, pretty close to market price [26-Mar-24 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Plenty of space available Avalon > HRT, send me your shipment orders! Leaving in about 1.5hr [26-Mar-24 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: 1790t and 1900m^3 [26-Mar-24 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: leaving now [27-Mar-24 07:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Yudhishthir** joined.* [27-Mar-24 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Yudhishthir**: Hi all. I just built my first base on Avalon. And did stupid mistake and forgot to bring SCN with me. Now my technicians are on strike and it will take me at minimum 1 day to bring it. Can anybody help? I posted local contract on Avalon for two SCN [27-Mar-24 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: @JJWPE thanks for contributing some FOD to the PAR :] [27-Mar-24 09:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Crazy.Banana** left.* [28-Mar-24 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eaglenest24** joined.* [29-Mar-24 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***weristsodumm** left.* [29-Mar-24 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pewpewpewpew** joined.* [30-Mar-24 03:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***HumAnt** left.* [30-Mar-24 04:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **GeneralZ**: someone got 2 BSE? AD on LM [30-Mar-24 06:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: Got you @GeneralZ [30-Mar-24 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **GeneralZ**: ty :) [30-Mar-24 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Khendon_Kalmire** left.* [30-Mar-24 07:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DeniedClimax** joined.* [31-Mar-24 02:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OldPopsy** left.* [31-Mar-24 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dayzed**: ^ dawg what is that username LMAO [31-Mar-24 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: It's a great username 😔 [31-Mar-24 01:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: A returning classic. [31-Mar-24 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Going to release this latest Avalon report a bit late due to me forgetting it occurred exactly on Easter weekend...I'll try and get it out sometime this week :} [01-Apr-24 12:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **About35Badgers**: Take your time. We hope your holidays where good. [01-Apr-24 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **NotPeaK**: Wow governor is slacking, time for a revolt! [01-Apr-24 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Nah, he's good for it. [01-Apr-24 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Alrighty here it is! If we have another week like this I could probably be out of the red in terms of my entire governorship (that's including the huge donation that was thrown at me a few terms ago): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSlv_iML61xU-Nt55ek8GBau2TlFdjuwIAtbwfsw0S-1rTfBRMz3SPXbEd6nFUcY3Zg5QLxXrV69JFZ/pubhtml [01-Apr-24 12:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Another month like this* lmao my brain isn't entirely here still.. [01-Apr-24 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Oh nice, nice to see its not a net negative anymoer [01-Apr-24 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: *anymore [01-Apr-24 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: The previous spending for upgraded pop infrastructure seems to be helping quite a bit, also I spent less on some things like programs this past month [01-Apr-24 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: I've still only got a core module here for a base..This week I should be throwing down a 3 permit pio base [01-Apr-24 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Sweet! Glad to have you here [01-Apr-24 02:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Ayy welcome aboard @DeniedClimax [01-Apr-24 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: thank you! :) [01-Apr-24 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NotPeaK**: Im just here so i dont get fined [01-Apr-24 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: :} [01-Apr-24 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***akina2024** left.* [01-Apr-24 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Skahletto** joined.* [01-Apr-24 10:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: Looks like there's a continued positive trend happening in terms of budget balance. Any thoughts on how you intend to invest further surpluses? [01-Apr-24 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: May I suggest disbursing funds to Filefolders? [01-Apr-24 10:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Assanova** left.* [01-Apr-24 11:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DirkStruan** joined.* [01-Apr-24 11:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: its good seeing it finally in the green without extra donations needed, that donations field has been propping it up in alot of the previous ones. Im also glad to see mysteriouswalrus actually getting rewarded for all the work, altho 14k a day still isnt much compared to what bases can pump out. [01-Apr-24 11:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: @survivorbob how goes your planet that you govern? [02-Apr-24 12:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: @SurvivorBob, due to you blocking all dealings with my corporation, even a player that wasn't even 30d in at the time of joining, with seemingly no explanation, I do not owe you one here. [02-Apr-24 12:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: If there is anyone here that's actually interested in the surplus and has creative ways of me utilizing it, I am open to such suggestions. Though I will let it be known, I do believe that Governors in this game should be rewarded for doing what they do. I look forward to hearing any feedback from you guys :] [02-Apr-24 12:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: You should just keep it for yourself [02-Apr-24 01:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Grand prize for Avalon bingo night. [02-Apr-24 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: raise the taxes by 1% and skim it off the top :) [02-Apr-24 01:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: maybe that nuke will \\finally\\ be built, do you know how long we've been waiting???? @mysteriouswalrus make. it. happen. [02-Apr-24 01:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: pls no nuke [02-Apr-24 01:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: where would we test the nuke? testing it on avalon or promitor would be a bad idea. we need a lifeless planet that has no value. [02-Apr-24 01:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Hortus J. Close enough to make the point. [02-Apr-24 02:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: naa we cant nuke right next to us, we got to pull a ww2, develop and test in secret then lets the first use make the statement [02-Apr-24 02:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: You, uh, are aware of where they conducted those nuclear tests, right? [02-Apr-24 02:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Namely inside the contiguous United States. [02-Apr-24 02:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: and on some islands [02-Apr-24 02:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: i propose life- the planet for testing that is [02-Apr-24 02:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: ZV-896c [02-Apr-24 02:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: out of the way, unlikely to impact us in any meaningfull way, and it'll teach those hippies whats what [02-Apr-24 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: @MysteriousWalrus Disappointing sentiment to hear from the Government of Avalon. 👎 [02-Apr-24 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dayzed**: Yes, I am also very curious how the governor will utilize my 478.05 ICA/wk. /s [02-Apr-24 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dayzed**: @MysteriousWalrus Keep lining your pockets and keep up the good work :D [02-Apr-24 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dayzed**: 705.88 ICA/wk* [02-Apr-24 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: @SurvivorBob if you believe that sentiment (that apparently a good few other site owners agree with) is disappointing, you are more then welcome to vote me out next election :] [02-Apr-24 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: To everyone else that has responded to me, I really do enjoy governing you guys, I'll continue doing my best to keep the population stable ! [02-Apr-24 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: interesting drama between you two... as for govenorship, i doubt anyone misses what is essentially nickles and dimes in the videogame pocket from some taxes [02-Apr-24 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: and its a nice bonus to deal with all the... complexity of actually governing a plant, esp one so large as avalon [02-Apr-24 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Few people actually have any idea what goes into giving a shit about running a planet. Rule with an iron fist. Should raise taxes further, lean on the weak. [02-Apr-24 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Jk, don't change, ur perfect [02-Apr-24 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: I don't see any problem with governors expecting to make a profit when they do a good job managing a planet and I would be disinterested in a game culture that would expect such a thing [02-Apr-24 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: I'm also in favor of Walrus just keeping the money, if the planet doesn't need more POPI. [02-Apr-24 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I'm in favor of surpluses being disbursed to me. [02-Apr-24 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: yeah as long as taxes are relatively reasonable you can just keep the surplus to yourself, congrats for even making a profit on that, not easy to do [02-Apr-24 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **NotPeaK**: I vote we give it to FileFolders as well I think he has big plans [02-Apr-24 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: I think that given that fact that most political seats irl offer monetary compensation for their services, eventhough it's fixed value, I see no problem in one pocketing in some surplus in a video game - the amount that varies even adds some meritocratic aspect to it. With all that being said, go Walrus, go! [02-Apr-24 12:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: I just put down 8 pio houses and 20 fps to relize I didn't bring anything to produce..aaand demolished everything at the 7 minute mark. that was close :P [02-Apr-24 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: To be clear, my disappointment is not with the Government of Avalon electing to assign its surplus to the benefit of its electted leader. That is a valid policy decision, and worthy of support. [02-Apr-24 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SurvivorBob**: If the leader chooses to use the platform of the Government to amplify an unrelated trade dispute in response to an inquiry from a landholder, then I have nothing to say to them. [02-Apr-24 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: Francis Underwood would have you not say anything too, albeit with a different approach, if I had to guess [02-Apr-24 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: so I'd consider myself lucky in your position, it could be worse :D [02-Apr-24 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: "unrelated trade dispute" someone seems to have forgotten why you started this? yall ran for governor spouting stupid shit and saying yall would make bank on being governor by raising taxes constantly IN THIS VERY CHAT, i pointed out the stupidity and everyone thought you were just running as a gag like many people in the game do. after yall lost the running i noticed i could no longer run cargo for yall as i was blocked. REALLY? all this over losing an election yall werent taking seriously? thats straight up petty man. [02-Apr-24 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: the fact that yall keep bringing up shit and then trying to play it off like we are the ones who started it really pisses me off. [02-Apr-24 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: trust me, if we start shooting back you wont like it. [02-Apr-24 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: who said we would make bank off of avalon? It was the exact opposite. When me and bob ran for governor both of us were adamant about NOT raising taxes, while someone else liked to increase them weekly in order to "break even" even though it was already profitable [02-Apr-24 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: you've got the wrong guy pal [02-Apr-24 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: It's my opinion (not the culture of the game or whatever) that people shouldn't enrich themselves by taking advantage of government positions. I find it immoral in real life, but this is a game. If you want to increase taxes all the time, you certainly can, but I won't vote for ya. I likeit when politicians lower my taxes. [02-Apr-24 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: bob was the one talking about raising taxes, you pmoney were talking about entising people to join the planet and change the COGC to something other than food industries, thats when i pointed out doing that on a planet already populated with lots of food industry was a bad idea and wouldnt get you votes [02-Apr-24 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Why would I change the CoGC when I have 28 food processors here? You're just wrong man. [02-Apr-24 03:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: thats why everyone assumed yall were running as a gag, yall kept spouting nonsence. [02-Apr-24 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: this is a community game, stop treating it like pvp and get over the loss [02-Apr-24 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: yeah no. What happened was Walrus had experience running a planet in the past and both of us were never governors, so somebody else in chat was saying "give it to the guy with experience, being a governor is so harrrd like you dont even understand" [02-Apr-24 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: even though it's the easiest most basic thing ever to just let the planet with good programs stay the same [02-Apr-24 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: so now you block new players that associate with us over a difference in experience that SOMEONE ELSE SAID. do what you want with me, BUT KEEP NEW PLAYERS OUT OF THIS [02-Apr-24 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I never ran for governor here on Avalon aprat from that one occasion. and since then my taxes have been increased like 2, 3, or maybe 4 times? [02-Apr-24 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: my block list is 2 people buddy [02-Apr-24 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: idc if you block me or what ever. DO NOT PUNISH OTHER OR NEW PLAYERS FOR IT [02-Apr-24 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: and none of them are in your corp [02-Apr-24 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: talk to survivor bob, [02-Apr-24 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: you defending him, have him tell you what he has done [02-Apr-24 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: bob is allowed to block whoever he wants. We may be in the same corp but I'm not his daddy [02-Apr-24 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: then dont defend him [02-Apr-24 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: you arnt his daddy [02-Apr-24 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I'm just clearing the record because people are saying stuff as a fact when it's actually the exact opposite of how it played out lol [02-Apr-24 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: regardless, neither of us want this silly planet anyway now lol [02-Apr-24 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: seems like ya do, tho, you still here [02-Apr-24 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I want my food processors, yeah, but I don't need to collect taxes [02-Apr-24 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: so here is my offer, like i said before multiple times to even bob, drop it, its in the past. stop bringing that shit up [02-Apr-24 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Like I said the originally, I only planned to be a one term governor and fix the tax situation so new players can make some money here. We got our own planets to worry about [02-Apr-24 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: buddy, that was walrus campaign, yall were on meme shit [02-Apr-24 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: You don't know what you're talking about, delusional [02-Apr-24 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: We ran honest campaigns and walrus is the one who got elected and raised the taxes [02-Apr-24 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: All I ask is that you don't spread lies about my corporation [02-Apr-24 03:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: bruh you just said you would "fix the tax situation" now you blaming walrus for raising taxes, on your previous statement you would have also. avalon was in the red [02-Apr-24 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: What do you think I meant??? I'm talking about lower taxes, not raising them! [02-Apr-24 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: avalon wasn't in the red, most of the work here was done not by the governor but by other people donating to keep things running and upgrading [02-Apr-24 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: He didn't have to raise taxes, and I wouldn't have either, even if it lowered my own profits [02-Apr-24 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: but taxes are such a small part of operating costs that nobody pays attention [02-Apr-24 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: naa not when survivor was talking about making bank from taxes in this chat. no one would take you seriously [02-Apr-24 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: you keep saying that but you're wrong [02-Apr-24 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: that's not what happened [02-Apr-24 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: that's not what we stand for [02-Apr-24 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: wanna see who makes bank from taxes? lets compared corp dividends [02-Apr-24 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I bet you benefit greatly from Walrus' tax increases [02-Apr-24 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: that's why you're defending it and telling lies [02-Apr-24 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: lol [02-Apr-24 03:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: actually you don't get anything, he keeps it all for himself and left your corp so that you won't receive a dividend haha [02-Apr-24 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: dude THATS HOW GOVENORS DO THINGS. [02-Apr-24 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: look around every governor is in their own corp [02-Apr-24 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: it fixes a problem with the game the devs are already working on fixing by overhauling the goverment system [02-Apr-24 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: some people do that, I don't [02-Apr-24 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: It's convenient to do that when you actually stand to make money from the position, it makes no sense to do it if you're in the red [02-Apr-24 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: and thats why you didnt win the goverment, it is increadibly hard to track money income and outflow unless you do that [02-Apr-24 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: it's actually easier to track income when everyone in the corp gets the same income instead of one person hoarding it all and having the ability to hide the true dividends from the rest of us [02-Apr-24 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: but then you have to track everyone in the corp suppling stuff and how much expenses they are spending. [02-Apr-24 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: and uh oh you have a bad egg. guess what you cant kick them from the corp. [02-Apr-24 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: because there is no kick function [02-Apr-24 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: so now you have a leach [02-Apr-24 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: funny thing is, if you're not trying to enrich yourself from the position and you operate the government altruistically then those bad eggs don't get a dividend [02-Apr-24 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: what are you on about? [02-Apr-24 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: making no sense [02-Apr-24 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: If there's profit, it gets shared. If you're breaking even and not ripping people off, you don't get a profit from holding the gov [02-Apr-24 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: your dividend will say 0 [02-Apr-24 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: so everyone in the corp gets a cut of what the corp makes, you dont pick who gets it and who doesnt [02-Apr-24 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: you can pick who you invite to your corp. But everyone in the corp receives an exactly equal share of the taxes which becomes your dividend [02-Apr-24 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: you cant kick people or control who gets what, hence the making their own corp [02-Apr-24 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: forcing your other corp mates to donate or send money around just because you want to be governor is a very sad outlook [02-Apr-24 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Nobody in my corp is forced to donate to anything. Everyone in our corp joined for free with no expectations of ever having to donate to any projects. The people who cared about improving the planet did so out of their own pockets, not from robbing people [02-Apr-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I fulfil COGCs all over the game universe and I'm not a governor of any planet. I'm giving up money to help these planets move forward [02-Apr-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: so now you are saying walrus robs people, especially after people back walrus over survivor bob? [02-Apr-24 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Taxation is theft, don't you understand? [02-Apr-24 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: especially if you jack up the taxes all the time [02-Apr-24 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: taxation is payment to keep the population from leaving the planet without that person having to worry about said population [02-Apr-24 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: walrus keeps population happy and manages growth vs new bases and you expect him to cover all costs of people who dont want to deal with that side of the planet himself [02-Apr-24 04:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I didn't say any of that, here you go again [02-Apr-24 04:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: i much prefer paying taxes over having to keep importing materials and having fights over who puts in what [02-Apr-24 04:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: you did, by saying taxes arnt needed, you called it theft [02-Apr-24 04:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: taxes are theft if the govenor does not provide a service [02-Apr-24 04:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I didn't say I expect him to pay for it all now did I [02-Apr-24 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: this govenor is DOING HIS JOB so go to hell calling it theft. [02-Apr-24 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: then where would the items and money come from? [02-Apr-24 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: if no one covers it then we all lose workers [02-Apr-24 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: if it isnt the govenor its another person having to pay more than their share [02-Apr-24 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: taxes is a way to make sure EVERYONE pays their share of keeping the workforce [02-Apr-24 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: mmmmkay buddy [02-Apr-24 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Everyone must be forced to pay into this system, it cannot be voluntary right? It's not like anybody can just donate supplies to the infrastructure. Except that they can do that any time [02-Apr-24 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I don't donate to the infrastructure here anymore because of the greed. Walrus can afford to do it himself with the taxes that I'm giving him [02-Apr-24 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: everyone is using the workforce that costs to upkeep, granted i would love a system that let you do donations instead of taxes but that system is 1 not in the game and 2 would be increadibly hard to prevent people taking advantage of [02-Apr-24 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: like I said, I'm not a governor and I actually donate to planets out of my own profits in order to benefit newer players with less money [02-Apr-24 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: so it is in the game, and you're telling lies again [02-Apr-24 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: if everyone had that outlook P-money, then we would be good, but we have MANY people not like that [02-Apr-24 04:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: there is no way to do donations and have it give you a tax credit. p-money come one man [02-Apr-24 04:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: yeah I can think of at least one of them [02-Apr-24 04:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: tax credit? what? [02-Apr-24 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: you just said there was a way of tracking donations and making it fair for everyone, lets hear it [02-Apr-24 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I just said what now? Read it again [02-Apr-24 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: i did a few times. [02-Apr-24 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: "yeah I can think of at least one of them" in responce to my tax speal with 1 and 2 [02-Apr-24 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: so what system in the game insures everyone is paying their part for their workforce [02-Apr-24 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: when I said "I can think of at least one of them" I'm talking about when you said "if everyone had that outlook P-money, then we would be good, but we have MANY people not like that" [02-Apr-24 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: i know there are people who do that, that is why i said MANY not ALL [02-Apr-24 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: but regardless, everybody can see who donates to COGC or planet projects. Just scroll down and it says who donated what [02-Apr-24 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: hell i used to give alot to popi, on avalon and prom both, even built a level on the warehouse just to boost us on how many warehouses we can have [02-Apr-24 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ya everyone can see who donates p-money, now how would you make someone who isnt donating, donate [02-Apr-24 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: what system besides taxes forces someone to do their part when they arnt? [02-Apr-24 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: why do people have to donate? Isn't it enough that I bring jobs to the planet and supply my own workforce with resources? [02-Apr-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: why should new players who barely get by with 5 figure weekly profit be forced to pay into something that is only benefitting one individual (governor) in the end? [02-Apr-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: but people who dont do their part in popi happiness and just use workforce cause popi to leave from unhappyness and take workforce from other bases [02-Apr-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: @P-Money, you have always said that being a governor is profitable, that hasn't been true for this planet until I raised the taxes AND then utilized this taxes and donations to upgrade the infrastructure for this planet to make it break even, and now more. [02-Apr-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: worvand I don't think you know how population happiness works [02-Apr-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Esabab, the previous governor, before stepping down told us all that taxes were 350k/wk and that it was only break even because he was supplying inputs from his own production [02-Apr-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: anybody can donate to upkeep of infrastructure that increases the happiness [02-Apr-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: im actually pretty aware on how happiness works [02-Apr-24 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: SurvivorBob, ran on one of his promises of making a separate corporation to better track his tax dividends, then here you are saying that I am greedy and corrupt for doing that exact thing [02-Apr-24 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: well happiness of pioneers comes from job availability, but you're saying that people who use our workforce are lowering the happiness [02-Apr-24 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: But where are my benefits? dental, health, vision?? how am I supposed to take care of my workers :( [02-Apr-24 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I didn't say you're greedy and corrupt for that, you're greedy for forcing us to pay higher and higher taxes when originally most of the work around here was being done by donations [02-Apr-24 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: happiness comes from more than job availablility [02-Apr-24 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: yeah theres also infrastructure which again is not the governors sole responsibility [02-Apr-24 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Most of the work was not done by donations, it was done by Esabab and DiggingLake paying out of their own pockets. [02-Apr-24 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I've actually been governor before and seen how it works [02-Apr-24 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: oh so like donations [02-Apr-24 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: "It's not donations, it's people voluntarily giving up their money" yeah that's what a donation is [02-Apr-24 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: When it's the governor donating, it's just them doing their job. [02-Apr-24 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Whether they raise taxes to fund the planet, or pull it out of their pockets, they are doing their job. [02-Apr-24 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I also never "forced" anyone to pay higher taxes, I explicitly ran on the campaign of raising taxes. [02-Apr-24 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: yeah the governor before was a chill guy who was charitable and not greedy [02-Apr-24 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: not everyone voted for you, the rest of us are forced into your tax increases [02-Apr-24 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: dude thats democracy, thats how voting works [02-Apr-24 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: duh [02-Apr-24 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: You're acting like I'm milking you dry, I literally brought it in line with what other planets have [02-Apr-24 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: the point flew over your head [02-Apr-24 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I'm going to leave it at that, anybody can go back and read what I've said. I'm hungry and I've been too busy responding to you instead of eating my food. Let the people decide who is right, obviously I won't change your mind worvand [02-Apr-24 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: however, anybody that wants a planet for growing crops with no taxes and a charitable corporation who keeps it going without asking for anything in return, you're welcome to build your base on Chu [02-Apr-24 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: That's what I've been doing, just letting the people decide who is right. At least now if I get voted out of my position, my successor will actually be able to run the planet with the taxes they recieve from the office. [02-Apr-24 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I'm not even mad at you walrus [02-Apr-24 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I never said that :p [02-Apr-24 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I'm only mad that worvand is out here spreading lies about my corp members [02-Apr-24 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I was simply commenting on some discrepancies I saw throughout this conversation [02-Apr-24 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Fair enough [02-Apr-24 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: we may disagree on how to run a planet, but I'm not going to come running to take your position anytime soon. I have no desire for it anymore [02-Apr-24 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: If someone promises to lower my taxes though, i'm sorry but they will have my vote [02-Apr-24 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: I'll promise it and double them, don't say that. [02-Apr-24 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: well then you'll have an angry constituency 🤣 [02-Apr-24 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: i can't blame anyone for wanting to make a profit in a capitalism simulator, but I prefer when I keep my money and give it out voluntarily [02-Apr-24 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: taxation is not theft lol [02-Apr-24 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: this is a german game and german ordoliberal economics is perfectly appropriate [02-Apr-24 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: this whole dispute is stupid [02-Apr-24 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: well what happens in real life when you don't pay your taxes? someone with guns comes to make you pay. that's basically robbery [02-Apr-24 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: government officials IRL is paid [02-Apr-24 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: yeah lol the government has a monopoly on violence and uses it to enforce its decrees, if you want to get neoreactionary about it, "no voice all exit" -- just move [02-Apr-24 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: wait you can't because every functioning country disagrees with wingnut economics [02-Apr-24 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: Thinking that taxes are voluntary is delusional though [02-Apr-24 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: your money has value because the government insists that trade and tax collection be denominated in a currency controlled by its institutions [02-Apr-24 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: who said they were voluntary? they'll imprison you for not paying them [02-Apr-24 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: so then how is that not theft [02-Apr-24 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: because they have a legitimate right to collect economic revenue from a population that they manage and every nation that disagrees collapses because the new dynamics suck [02-Apr-24 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: governments whose primary revenue source is taxation or trade duties etc have a direct interest in the economy [02-Apr-24 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: It's a necessary evil, but lets not pretend it isnt still stealing from someone else's labor [02-Apr-24 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: alternative systems fall to the resource curse and other issues [02-Apr-24 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: the whole concept of calling it theft is a misunderstanding in terms and a failure to understand political economy [02-Apr-24 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: it's lolbert nonsense [02-Apr-24 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: the government will also imprison you if you drive without a license [02-Apr-24 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: or smoke in a restaurant [02-Apr-24 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: the monopoly on violence allows them to enforce the rules on people who operate in their territory [02-Apr-24 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: So if someone comes up with a gun in your face and says "give me half of what's in your wallet right now" you won't say you've been robbed. you'll say you voluntarily gave up your money [02-Apr-24 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: it's not theft because theft is illegitimate enrichment [02-Apr-24 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: that's just taxes [02-Apr-24 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: I'm not arguing with college freshmen misunderstandings [02-Apr-24 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: stop reading mises or whatever [02-Apr-24 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: theft is when people take things that they didn't earn [02-Apr-24 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: politics is an empirical discipline and at some point you people need to accept that your worldview is empirically unjustified [02-Apr-24 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I earn my money and the governement steals it from me [02-Apr-24 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: end of story [02-Apr-24 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: and that western liberal democratic capitalism is the clear victor regardless of how you feel about its "necessary evils" [02-Apr-24 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: what is necessary is not evil [02-Apr-24 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: this is pure sophistry [02-Apr-24 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: this is not a genuine debate about the functioning of society, it is word-wrangling in search of an argument [02-Apr-24 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: the Cosmocene Combine will gladly join the Citrus Union in your blacklist [02-Apr-24 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: you'll blacklist me because we have a philosophical disagreement lmao [02-Apr-24 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: also, GLXY doesn't blacklist people if that's what you think is going on [02-Apr-24 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: worvand must've gotten in your head [02-Apr-24 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: if you say so [02-Apr-24 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: I've never spoken to worvand [02-Apr-24 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: but you are repeating his talking points [02-Apr-24 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: but I can read this discussion and the two of you are making fools of yourselves by arguing for ideological positions which don't work [02-Apr-24 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: XD ok buddy [02-Apr-24 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: his "talking points" are mainstream understanding of economics and political economy and they have been empirically proven correct both in real life and in simplified models like PrUn [02-Apr-24 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: reconstruction of society and its policies from first principles is a laughably stupid error that always results in genocide or at best unintentional mass death [02-Apr-24 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: believing in this imaginary blacklist is "mainstream understanding of economics and political economy" to you? [02-Apr-24 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: history is an empirical discipline [02-Apr-24 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: can members of CU accept LM contracts from the relevant parties or no? did they do anything beyond humiliate the two of you to earn this? [02-Apr-24 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: no further discussion is necessary [02-Apr-24 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: you can accept any of my LM contracts. Once again, nobody is blacklisted [02-Apr-24 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: I will not blacklist or mute anyone [02-Apr-24 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: I've blocked 2 people and that was for my own reasons, not because we decided as a corp to block them from intereacting with all of us [02-Apr-24 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: because I see all interaction as contractual under the implied terms of known-effective systematic approaches to governance [02-Apr-24 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: those implied terms do not require your consent [02-Apr-24 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: and none of those people are in your corp or in CU so whats the issue? [02-Apr-24 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: you are subject to the forces of hstory [02-Apr-24 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: the issue is that I'm abrasive and argumentative and I can't avoid an argument when I know I'm right [02-Apr-24 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: you've lost the plot [02-Apr-24 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: but I've said my piece and I will go do something else now [02-Apr-24 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: I will vote for Walrus as governor of Avalon for as many terms as he wishes to run [02-Apr-24 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: I advise everyone reading this to do the same no matter their feelings [02-Apr-24 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: pure self-interest is sufficient. pay your taxes. [02-Apr-24 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: if the government said your taxes were 100% I think you would feel differently [02-Apr-24 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: laughable counter argument: if chocolate tasted like dog poop you wouldn't want to eat it [02-Apr-24 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: but feel free to accept my contracts because none of you are blacklisted :) [02-Apr-24 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **P-Money**: you can test it yourself instead of falling for what worvand told you [02-Apr-24 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: so, who's next in line to feed the troll? [02-Apr-24 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Ill pass this time @marchioro, but thank you for your generous offer :) [02-Apr-24 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dayzed**: @Marchioro Just throw him some taxes, he'll be quite happy [02-Apr-24 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: @P-Money Are you serious? [02-Apr-24 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Do you really think we're "enriching" ourselves off of 14K/day in tax revenue? Give me a break. [02-Apr-24 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: I love how you say Avalon was in the green before Walrus was governor and then admit that it relied on donations. Taxes in this game as they exist are so low you almost don't notice them. Avalon alone makes me enough in one day to cover what I pay in taxes across my whole company for a month. [02-Apr-24 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dayzed**: Just for some clarification, wouldn't it be 1,508.88/day if it were evenly split among CU's shareholders? [02-Apr-24 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: And your whole corp may not have blocked us as you say, but SurvivorBob has every single one of us blocked including a new player that wasn't even here for the last election. [02-Apr-24 06:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: @Dayzed Correct! [02-Apr-24 06:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Yeah, we're all just getting fat and happy off of it! I've put at least 2.5 million ICA of my own money into upgrading the infrastructure on Avalon, but that's definitely what I'm after! [02-Apr-24 06:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: The single-user corp system is a stand-in for the future system in which tax income will go to a special planetary fund. [02-Apr-24 06:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dayzed**: I feel like that's a fair wage to pay our Governor and the community members that prop up our economical upkeep. It's essentially pennies [02-Apr-24 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: The reliance on donations by users to maintain planetary infrastructure is fine, I guess, but the governor is the one responsible if this system collapses. It's simply more rational to centralize maintenance responsibilities. Relying on private investment to solve collective action problems causes robber barons. [02-Apr-24 06:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: "We maintain population infrastructure and maintain demographics on a planet as a charity" means that all of your politicians will be status-seekers rather than economically rational actors. [02-Apr-24 06:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Exactly [02-Apr-24 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: I think the idea that an economic and logistical simulation is ideally run by anarcho-capitalist principles is so absurd that I don't even know where to begin. [02-Apr-24 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: Because, you know, anarcho-capitalists have never demonstrated a capacity for either economics nor logistics. [02-Apr-24 06:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: They are, at best, hyper-efficient actors in a system designed in a manner antithetical to their stated principles. However, their revealed preference is to live in societies where these problems are handled by competent central authorities. [02-Apr-24 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: It's fine for individuals to engage with an economy in this manner because they bear no responsibility for the functioning of society as a hole, but an anarcho-capitalist opining on politics is a man who cuts off his own legs to reduce his weight so he can run faster. [02-Apr-24 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: Clown behavior. Read a book. [02-Apr-24 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: *whole [02-Apr-24 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dayzed**: I personally will not let Avalon turn into Cyberpunk 2077 [02-Apr-24 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dayzed**: Trust [02-Apr-24 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: I don't think governance in this game should be a volunteer or, in some cases, charitable position where you're paying out of your own pocket to cover upkeep (unless your planet is some sort of weird pet project where you want to do that sort of thing). [02-Apr-24 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: i personally will not let avalon be bleak and non cyberpuck [02-Apr-24 06:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dayzed**: @Masonwater My mortal enemy... We meet at last [02-Apr-24 06:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: i will not stand by and let you rob our dear citizens of the greatest mankind has to offer, cyberpsychosis! [02-Apr-24 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Jeez. Avalon chat is getting so spicy that it might turn my RAT into FIM. [02-Apr-24 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Hail Governor MysteriousWalrus though. Heck of a guy. [02-Apr-24 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: i had to tell my bf about it, being the most interesting thing that has happened in a few months lmao [02-Apr-24 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dayzed**: N-No! Don't provide corporations more control over our lives! We will never acquire full liberation from the scourge that is taxes! [02-Apr-24 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: always glad to provide some spice and entertainment. [02-Apr-24 06:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: I'm pretty sure Worvand has put even more into Avalon than I have. If we were involved in Avalon's government to get rich we'd be doing a pretty terrible job of it. [02-Apr-24 06:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: haha ya. [02-Apr-24 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Both of you have put close to 2,500,000 ICA each towards the development of Avalon. [02-Apr-24 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: you can only get so rich, at some point you just start hoarding money to make a number go up. got to put it somewhere useful [02-Apr-24 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: I don't need or want any sort of pat on the back or recognition for it, I'd just like to not be called a robber. [02-Apr-24 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: agreed. [02-Apr-24 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: +1 @worvand [02-Apr-24 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: which reminds me to make an announcement on Prom chat ;) [02-Apr-24 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: :} [02-Apr-24 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: I think the poor troll had to much to eat, he's probably hibernating now [03-Apr-24 05:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Interesting change in the TEC employment rate 🤔 [03-Apr-24 06:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JoeRider85**: Why'd it go down when there was a technician immigration program? [03-Apr-24 06:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: low happines? [03-Apr-24 06:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Someone built a lot of TEC buildings, which is why I thought it was interesting [03-Apr-24 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JoeRider85**: I think it is 770 new tech jobs (I added 280 of those with 4xIVP) -- so probably another 7xIVP from others considering the MTP market [03-Apr-24 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TherenShadowborn**: I don't know enough about how population works, but is there anything that can be done to stop the slow loss of Technicians from Avalon? [03-Apr-24 08:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JoeRider85**: Pretty sure we have to make a sacrifice to the harvest god. Well, I don't know that for sure -- but in the past when we have made sacrificial offerings, no technicians left. [03-Apr-24 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TherenShadowborn**: Not sure what that entails, but point me in the right direction! [03-Apr-24 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: I think we need a governor to STEAL more taxes from us and then simply do their job and invest in infrastructure that will make tecs happy, so we can complain about it later /s [03-Apr-24 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Lmaooo [03-Apr-24 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: you'd have to invest in TEC POPI or something to keep them from leaving [03-Apr-24 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: The TECs are definitely a bit unpredictable sometimes, I was already noticed a drop in unemployment but the numbers were hovering around the same. I'll bring over some more inputs when I have a ship over at HRT [03-Apr-24 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I'll probably be bringing over some TUBs, STR, or both if anyone here happens to produce them somewhere. If not I'll just buy from the CX :] [03-Apr-24 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Short term, I'm going to upkeep the INF and PAR a bit more, long term, I am going to put the surplus towards upgrading those a bit further in hopes of this not occurring again [03-Apr-24 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TherenShadowborn**: Again, I don't know much about the population, and I'm not super rich, but if there is anything I can do to help, let me know! [03-Apr-24 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Appreciate the offer! It's probably just going to involve me shipping a few hundred thousand in parts to make us get TECs like 5-30% faster [03-Apr-24 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: you better, Walrus, cuz that's a governor's job. don't expect a pat on the back for doing your obligation. sneaky thief. /s [03-Apr-24 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Awww darn, I might have to steal some more! [03-Apr-24 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: He can't keep getting away with it! [03-Apr-24 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Because he's the hero Avalon deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him. Because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A Mysterious Walrus.. [04-Apr-24 02:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Paradigm55** left.* [04-Apr-24 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***filipe.sbp** left.* [04-Apr-24 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***janmady** joined.* [04-Apr-24 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mrmaxpower** joined.* [04-Apr-24 10:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lol_beckie**: I've got 500t/500m heading to prom leaving either right now or in 9-10 hrs [05-Apr-24 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eaglenest24** left.* [05-Apr-24 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Happy Friday, you rascals [05-Apr-24 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Lol TGIF indeedf [05-Apr-24 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: This week cant end soon enough [05-Apr-24 12:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Happy Friday :} [05-Apr-24 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TherenShadowborn**: Hopefully next week brings some Tecs... :) [05-Apr-24 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: tacos? yes please [05-Apr-24 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: TACO TUESDAYS [05-Apr-24 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: thats what we should do with all the stolen money [05-Apr-24 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hardline** joined.* [07-Apr-24 06:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LapsedNortonSubscription** joined.* [07-Apr-24 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CD-Energis** joined.* [08-Apr-24 03:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user0322286179** left.* [09-Apr-24 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gasgano**: Hello everyone. If you feel like Avalon and Promitor are too small for you - I invite any and all to Lemuria (AJ-768a), an agriculture planet, and AJ-120b - a nearby food productions planet. Check us out [09-Apr-24 06:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***qeeshash** joined.* [09-Apr-24 10:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***antonioeggerson18** joined.* [09-Apr-24 10:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: anyone got an extra BSE? ad on LM ty [09-Apr-24 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Gotcha. [09-Apr-24 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: should just asked you ;D [09-Apr-24 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Hahaha no worries :] [10-Apr-24 04:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***szedalt** left.* [10-Apr-24 06:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: The TEC population is on the rise, seems like a few people dropped a whole lot of jobs requiring them so it took me really by surprise. Need to increase the TECs by like 20% lmao [10-Apr-24 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Someone dropped some ENG buildings as well [10-Apr-24 06:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Wonder what they're making here 🤔 [10-Apr-24 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Got no clue - alas I am only trying to maintain the first three populations 😅 [10-Apr-24 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Any excess are uhh, happy little accidents [10-Apr-24 08:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: jfc it's getting worse [10-Apr-24 08:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: 350 more technicians and 1k open jobs [10-Apr-24 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TherenShadowborn**: Appreciate all the support for the Tecs! [10-Apr-24 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: ^ [10-Apr-24 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: The peeps running techs are likely IVP (MTP) - MEA bois. [10-Apr-24 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Definitely - hopefully we'll have the TECs to accommodate them all [10-Apr-24 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Some also do use this MCG planet for advanced Metallurgy, Chemistry, and Manufacturing processes, that would be painful to do elsewhere. [10-Apr-24 08:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Aye [10-Apr-24 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Going forward I'll look into taxing other industries using TECs more than food industries. I'll think about that when I get home though [10-Apr-24 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: I can give you the most base rundown of the TEC pop tree. :) [10-Apr-24 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: The most useful ones, direct, are the HWP, LAB, PP3/TNP, for direct-to-market commodities. Everything else is involved in a intermediate category, there their O's are used for other I's, be they on higher, or lower pop requirements afterwards. [10-Apr-24 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: It'll be good for me to note this before election I suppose, I'll have to take a look at the finances and how much goes into maintaining TECs, but I could see a raise in the future for *Non food industries* Technicians. I am not going to raise any others next term. [10-Apr-24 08:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Tbf for the Food-Instustry TECs, the IVP's through-put, in terms of commodity units per day, is rather LOW. [10-Apr-24 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Player co-ops needs a bunch of them to be competitive. [10-Apr-24 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Hm, don't really know much about them as I only just built my first base using TECs [10-Apr-24 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: 2 FIM + 1 MTP -- @15.5 hrs --> 2 MEA... [10-Apr-24 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Though yeah, I do recall all like +18h recipes on IVPs last I checked [10-Apr-24 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Yeahh [10-Apr-24 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: 1 PPA + 1 NS + 1 HCP -- 18 hrs --> 4 MTP [10-Apr-24 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: You need a whole IVP base, just to feed a whole FP base, that is making MEA. [10-Apr-24 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: If not more. [10-Apr-24 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: That doesn't surprise me [10-Apr-24 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: FPs go through stuff like crazy [10-Apr-24 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Like almost 3 IVP bases XD [10-Apr-24 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: IVPs are like almost 3x the size of an FP [10-Apr-24 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: 🥴 [10-Apr-24 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: And they use almost x2 the popi, per building. [10-Apr-24 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Aye [10-Apr-24 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: What's the decay percentage for migrating out? <50% happiness? [10-Apr-24 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: Fuck I had it bookmarked [10-Apr-24 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: pct.fnar.net [10-Apr-24 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: 70% for coming in, 50% for going out, I believe :p [10-Apr-24 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Though a lot of the specifics are harder to understand :o [10-Apr-24 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: this has been fact checked as TRUE by an Avalon patriot [10-Apr-24 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Hahaha [10-Apr-24 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: ye, I think Archi's Gov planner spreadsheet works still, with the most recent FIO endpoints. You can run the buffers down to 50% satisfaction for the TECs. Of course, do note it here, and on UFO, if you plan on doing such. [10-Apr-24 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Since popi happiness runs on a 5 week average, you could keep the #s up, but it will cost revenues that could be diverted elsewhere. [10-Apr-24 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Archi's gov planner is very helpful, I can do without it but it's really really nice being able to see what *should* happen [10-Apr-24 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: It helps if players actually chatted with the govs on where they want to settle, especially withi higher tier pop considerations. [10-Apr-24 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: But, it doesn't really matter, as long as SET Happy < TEC Happy ---- and/or TEC Happy > 70% [10-Apr-24 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Luckily I had some corp members wanting to help me with upkeep - I *want* to have a healthy buffer of TECs, we'll see how much it costs to upkeep them going forward 😅 [11-Apr-24 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: can't believe nobody will stand up against this thief! are you all really going to let him run away with this rigged election? stop the count already! [11-Apr-24 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: It's not a rigged election! All the opposition is just...not present :] [11-Apr-24 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: probably still hibernating [11-Apr-24 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: just empty whining that killed the planet's chat for a week [11-Apr-24 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: just so we have oppisition, ill run. i vow to triple and use 1/2 of that to build unnecessary buildings trying to see if i build enough, will it take an additional base slot. hey science must be done. [11-Apr-24 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: You got my vote ;] [11-Apr-24 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: that reminds me of one episode from Rocko's Modern Life where he was running in election against Big Head, and not even Heffer voted for him lol [11-Apr-24 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: P [11-Apr-24 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NotPeaK**: P [11-Apr-24 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: my dudes, if you can't tell my age from the memory I just shared, I can tell you I'm too old to be into the insides of single letter meanings in text chatting. Not long ago did I find out what F was, but now P... I asked google, but I'm not sure its answer fits your replies. Please enlighten me. [11-Apr-24 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NotPeaK**: No clue, I just wanted to start a P chain [11-Apr-24 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: >he's in the age cohort to have watched Rocko's Modern Life but didn't know Press F to Pay Respects [11-Apr-24 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: No idea what P means though. [11-Apr-24 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: These dang Zoomers. [11-Apr-24 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: I have a hard time keeping up with all the memes and modern references... [11-Apr-24 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Full disclosure, I also voted for Worvand [11-Apr-24 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: yay for tripling taxes [11-Apr-24 10:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ill need the money for all the science. how many buildings does it take to make only DW and OFF needed to supply the population, what is the rate of population leaving and immagration in, [11-Apr-24 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: at the end of my second term, we will have answers to questions. why the second term? theres no way to get enough data from the first one ofc [11-Apr-24 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: i will be the one and only scientist, there cant be others on the planet, they all call me mad... im not mad, just need answers [11-Apr-24 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: I voted for you ironically at first but tripling taxes, you have me dripping. [12-Apr-24 02:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***nerbur331** joined.* [12-Apr-24 02:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***nerbur331** left.* [12-Apr-24 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Barranco** left.* [12-Apr-24 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***EVERGREEN.** left.* [13-Apr-24 03:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***aCensor** left.* [13-Apr-24 05:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **AmosMoses**: do you know, I think most of you might almost have been Monty Python scriptwriters. almost... [13-Apr-24 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***traincz** joined.* [13-Apr-24 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hardline** left.* [13-Apr-24 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SilentButtDeadly** joined.* [13-Apr-24 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pixelriegel** joined.* [14-Apr-24 12:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Hosting a barbecue at my base tomorrow afternoon, everyone invited, bring a side. no political talk [14-Apr-24 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Rad. I'll bring the potato salad. [14-Apr-24 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dayzed**: I'll bring the bean salad [14-Apr-24 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **YuLun**: which timezone [14-Apr-24 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NotPeaK**: HRT + 2 [15-Apr-24 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ERROR_X2** left.* [15-Apr-24 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CD-Energis** left.* [16-Apr-24 03:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Darth_Merkel**: Anyone got 10 MCG laying around? willing to pay Premium Price on LM [16-Apr-24 03:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Darth_Merkel**: Thanks! Great Service :P [16-Apr-24 03:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: np [16-Apr-24 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: Anyone putting HER on the market in ~24 hours? [16-Apr-24 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I could if the price is right. How much are you looking to buy? [16-Apr-24 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: I can do 300 for 2500 [16-Apr-24 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I have 225 for you. [16-Apr-24 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: starts to break down after compared to the alternative [16-Apr-24 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: alright - I've got a ship heading back from Avalon with FIM to sell - I'll have the money at 9pm EST if you're down - if not I'll send a cont [16-Apr-24 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: alternatively I can trade you the value in FIM [16-Apr-24 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: err [16-Apr-24 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: buy order FIM [16-Apr-24 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: (1,700) [16-Apr-24 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I'll wait for cash. [16-Apr-24 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: np [16-Apr-24 02:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Yeah, just send me a contract when you're ready. I plan to check in around 8:30 CST, so I'll see it tonight. [16-Apr-24 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: sent [16-Apr-24 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Oh, do you want those on HRT, or would you prefer them on Avalon? [16-Apr-24 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Because that's where they are right now. [16-Apr-24 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: oh [16-Apr-24 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: fuck yea I want them on Avalon [16-Apr-24 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Let's try that again then. [16-Apr-24 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: fixed [16-Apr-24 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Super. [16-Apr-24 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: Can someone sell me like 50 DW, I calculated wrong. Paying over CX on LM [16-Apr-24 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: 👍 [17-Apr-24 06:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AmosMoses** left.* [17-Apr-24 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hulkster** joined.* [17-Apr-24 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Skahletto**: Selling ration/water on the local for market price <3 [17-Apr-24 10:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***antonioeggerson18** left.* [18-Apr-24 09:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***loqman.hajizadeh** joined.* [18-Apr-24 09:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **loqman.hajizadeh**: HEY guys i messed up i dont know how to open tabs [18-Apr-24 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Is NEW BFR in the bottom left what you're talking about? [18-Apr-24 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Or SCRN up top? [18-Apr-24 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **loqman.hajizadeh**: i made two habitat for my pioneers i cant make any resource plus i accidentaly removed two windows how to get back into default mode [18-Apr-24 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: There's not a reset button, but you can put those windows back where they were. [18-Apr-24 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **loqman.hajizadeh**: how ? they get popped up in middle they dont get fixed [18-Apr-24 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: If you hover your cursor over the gear icon at the top right of a buffer, you can click the horizontal bar to split the buffer in half, or you can click the vertical bar to split them in half vertically. [18-Apr-24 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: You can then enter the command you want into that new buffer. [18-Apr-24 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Alternatively, you can drag the contents of a buffer into another one by clicking and dragging the blue bar at the top of the buffer, for example the blue bar with the title "Avalon Global Site Owners" here. [18-Apr-24 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Is that what you're trying to get answered? [18-Apr-24 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **loqman.hajizadeh**: sorry mate i cant fix anything its too hard to make a good interface to work in this game [18-Apr-24 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **loqman.hajizadeh**: i dont know how to use command section [18-Apr-24 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I guess I don't understand the question then. [18-Apr-24 10:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **loqman.hajizadeh**: what should i produce in start of game ? [18-Apr-24 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Avalon is optimized for food production. [18-Apr-24 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: My recomendation would be to restart on Promitor to grow your own crops to make into food though. [18-Apr-24 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **loqman.hajizadeh**: i want to learn the game [18-Apr-24 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: There's a tutorial. [18-Apr-24 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: That's a fantastic way to learn the game. [18-Apr-24 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **loqman.hajizadeh**: where it is the first tutorial was so dumb compare the shit this game wants [18-Apr-24 10:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Check your contracts page. The game will send you some contracts to guide you through the very first steps. [18-Apr-24 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **loqman.hajizadeh**: how is doing a production order ? [18-Apr-24 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: There are a couple ways to get there. From your base menu (BS VH-331g in this case), you can click "Production". [18-Apr-24 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **loqman.hajizadeh**: i started a production but its halted [18-Apr-24 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Check "Workforce". [18-Apr-24 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I will bet a million trillion dollars that you left all your food and water on your ship. It needs to be in your base inventory to feed your workers. [18-Apr-24 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Your dudes won't work if their needs aren't being met. [18-Apr-24 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Janelle1116**: Oh they'll work alright....[pulls out jumper cables] [18-Apr-24 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Torture is not yet implemented as a mechanic, @Janelle1116. [18-Apr-24 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **loqman.hajizadeh**: filefolders i cant play this game cuz i dont know how to put thing in their place [18-Apr-24 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Click and drag. [18-Apr-24 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **loqman.hajizadeh**: how to fix their position ? [18-Apr-24 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I've already told you. [18-Apr-24 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: You need to split an existing permanent buffer. [18-Apr-24 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: I understand this game is difficult to play if you aren't fluent in English, but the tutorials aren't optional. [18-Apr-24 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: 1) You have a buffer like so: https://ibb.co/xJntny2 {Embed} https://ibb.co/xJntny2 1 hosted at ImgBB Image 1 hosted in ImgBB https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/FTQ42M8Qx6fqHjR8SKrrgqJpmu8pFdeKhzaia2FUa98/https/i.ibb.co/SRk4k26/1.png [18-Apr-24 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: 2) Hover over the cog in the top right like so: https://ibb.co/xJntny2 {Embed} https://ibb.co/xJntny2 1 hosted at ImgBB Image 1 hosted in ImgBB https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/FTQ42M8Qx6fqHjR8SKrrgqJpmu8pFdeKhzaia2FUa98/https/i.ibb.co/SRk4k26/1.png [18-Apr-24 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: 3) Click the vertical bar to split it vertically or the horizontal bar to split it horizontally like so: https://ibb.co/KqzCZrV {Embed} https://ibb.co/KqzCZrV 3 hosted at ImgBB Image 3 hosted in ImgBB https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/-0nSjHQZC_Qn77wic6JktWy8djYdd9RZdufLw0nzkdk/https/i.ibb.co/nc8h2LQ/3.png [18-Apr-24 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: 4) Pull up whatever buffer you're going to use like so: https://ibb.co/Nr7njt0 {Embed} https://ibb.co/Nr7njt0 4 hosted at ImgBB Image 4 hosted in ImgBB https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/47iOhegNNyQOsSugRS5lmdS7AZhNpY1RYCnp9Psm6k8/https/i.ibb.co/2S5YtWz/4.png [18-Apr-24 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: 5) Drag it by the blue part into the blank buffer like so: https://ibb.co/tp3tdvq {Embed} https://ibb.co/tp3tdvq 5 hosted at ImgBB Image 5 hosted in ImgBB https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ppG7NztlStg_5VvVH-vmBn6XoMOJ64GqY4jQkZ-0Y8c/https/i.ibb.co/whYXvPS/5.png [18-Apr-24 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: If that doesn't answer your question, I don't know what to tell you, sorry. [18-Apr-24 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***loqman.hajizadeh** left.* [18-Apr-24 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: lol @ him leaving [18-Apr-24 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: It was bound to happen. [18-Apr-24 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: "Help me! I've read nothing, and I still don't understand how to play the game!" [18-Apr-24 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: We hate to see it. [18-Apr-24 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Well, he restarted on Promitor, so he did something right at least. [18-Apr-24 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Some people arent cut out for the type of game the requires this much thinking and planning [18-Apr-24 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: and that is totally fair lol [18-Apr-24 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I know it's a niche game. [18-Apr-24 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: The thinking and planning is why the rest of us love it so much lol [18-Apr-24 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: It still surprises me sometimes to see people who have enough interest to register and start the game but lack the ability to understand anything. [18-Apr-24 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: tbf I didnt realise what the mental workload was before I started, spent my first month wasting coliqs [18-Apr-24 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: You appear at least to have the benefit of a command of the English language. [18-Apr-24 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: that does help [18-Apr-24 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Incomprehension on two fronts? That's rough. [18-Apr-24 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: As well as mostly functional braincells [18-Apr-24 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: that also hleps [18-Apr-24 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: I say as i misspell helps [18-Apr-24 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: I never said I had working braincells [18-Apr-24 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Tragic. [18-Apr-24 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Mostly functional @TheVanquish121 ;] [18-Apr-24 02:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **TheVanquish121**: Partially functional i would say [18-Apr-24 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: i gues the SCIENCE is delayed, well played mysterious, keep your stable workforce. [18-Apr-24 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: mysterious pulverized me in the votes, 34 to 3 [18-Apr-24 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Wow. That thief stole the election too. [18-Apr-24 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: First I steal your votes, then I steal your money! >:D [18-Apr-24 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Crytycal** joined.* [19-Apr-24 06:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BaxterPierogis** left.* [19-Apr-24 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Going to do the tax raise on TECs ~Monday, out of town right now and doing that on mobile is just as bad as contracting :p [20-Apr-24 02:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***cxiu** left.* [20-Apr-24 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dayzed**: Wow he's raising taxes again! Unbelievable (i will not be effected by this) [20-Apr-24 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera966adbd2f** left.* [20-Apr-24 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: jesus christ. [20-Apr-24 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: @DeniedClimax did you just win the latest mega-millions lottery draw? [20-Apr-24 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: @Filefolders I'm not surprised at all. When our civilization basically grants us the ability to satisfy all of our needs, with the click of a button or two, the effort required to show a tangible interest in something is not even worth 0,0001 kCal of energy. [20-Apr-24 06:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: all hail amazon prime [20-Apr-24 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: @roh depends who's asking >.> [20-Apr-24 06:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: @DeniedClimax most def. If it's your fam ---- no you didn't win the lottery (wtf is a lottery anyways?!?). If its your anon internet fwends, who know not where you live, or how you look like, sure, you may have just won? :D [20-Apr-24 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Skahletto**: DW on the LM [20-Apr-24 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: yeah, at 100 ICA per unit. [20-Apr-24 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Skahletto**: how so? [20-Apr-24 07:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Skahletto**: 100x500 would be 50000, not 34000 [20-Apr-24 07:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Skahletto**: am i missing something? [20-Apr-24 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: The previous ad of 75 DW @ 7500 ICA must have been deleted, or closed. [20-Apr-24 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Skahletto**: Thats on promitor, this is the avalon channel, sorry for the confusion [20-Apr-24 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Indeed! [20-Apr-24 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: But if you would have sold your DW @ 8 ICA less, per unit, you would get that money straight away! [20-Apr-24 07:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Hence, the efficient markets theorem at work. (profitable LM ads are rare unicorns indeed). [20-Apr-24 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Skahletto**: I didnt post the 75 for 7500 lol [20-Apr-24 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Skahletto**: I posted for undermarket price.. usually i post at market price and i have no issues still [21-Apr-24 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Redllamaaa** joined.* [21-Apr-24 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hirnblutlord** joined.* [21-Apr-24 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SilentButtDeadly** left.* [21-Apr-24 07:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Alright the changes to the TECs have been made - SCI were also increase but that...literally does not matter considering the population lmao [21-Apr-24 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Next financial report should be out this Saturday for those interested - week has an obvious deficit due to the TEC shock, though I received a fair bit of support helping get those numbers up, I'll point that out when posting it :] [21-Apr-24 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: OUTRAGE [21-Apr-24 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: <3 [21-Apr-24 07:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Please don't riot! Where else am I going to put my money?! :O [21-Apr-24 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Estrascolaptra** joined.* [22-Apr-24 12:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: taxes arnt high enough, its revolution time [22-Apr-24 12:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: can we get a before and after of the taxes pleas :) [22-Apr-24 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: @masonwater when I get home I'll try to make a before and after of it and post it either in the UFO Discord or here if you want it :] [22-Apr-24 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: post it here [22-Apr-24 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Alrighty, when I get home and have time I'll do so [22-Apr-24 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Reffex** joined.* [22-Apr-24 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Okay - essentially Food Industries TEC 210 -> 250, all other industries 210 -> 270 [22-Apr-24 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: I'm not sure I'll ever recover [22-Apr-24 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Skahletto**: Recover from what [22-Apr-24 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: nice :) [22-Apr-24 10:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Splott** joined.* [23-Apr-24 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Castarn** left.* [24-Apr-24 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: 2 quick deliveries from HRT to Avalon required, paying very well. Bonus 2k per delivery if completed in under 12 hours. [24-Apr-24 07:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **tantypants**: Make that 3 [25-Apr-24 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Skahletto**: selling DW on the LM [25-Apr-24 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Skahletto**: CHEAPER ;) DW on the LM [26-Apr-24 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Releasing Avalon's monthly report a bit early (1d early) as I will not be putting anything else into POPI, Programs, or CoGC within that time, but as expected after the TEC situation, POPI Upkeep went up a good bit, hence the Technician tax raise. Programs were down also due to the technicians, Tec programs cost a flat 50k while the Planetary Festivities are based on population. Note, this report doesn't reflect the 2.5m in donations from @Janelle1116, @worvand, @TheVanquish121, and @DeniedClimax. [26-Apr-24 06:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTnWjuANsl7gPNOuMOuF0qL6f3rwcWGLpCwcbvX7pvZrYUL48QXtdgtX5BZgDH9-UJBcf2__YRA8d-e/pubhtml [27-Apr-24 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **GeneralZ**: cant wait for the next popr, Im missing quite a few TECs [27-Apr-24 07:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **GeneralZ**: was wondering why my orders take 3 days [27-Apr-24 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I'm also awaiting next POPR, I'm guessing we'll have about the same amount of TEC growth as this past one :? [28-Apr-24 12:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: hoping for over 400 myself [28-Apr-24 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SnowPen** joined.* [28-Apr-24 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: over nine thousand prolly [28-Apr-24 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neoshancullman**: over 9000 !?!?! [28-Apr-24 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: What, nine thousand?! There's no way that can be right! [28-Apr-24 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: *crushes scouter* it lies [29-Apr-24 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***schnalf** joined.* [29-Apr-24 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hirnblutlord** left.* [30-Apr-24 10:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8942b9ad9f** left.* [01-May-24 09:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: The technician issue has been solved [01-May-24 09:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: Good work nerds [01-May-24 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Skahletto**: buying COF.IC1 for 900 on LM [02-May-24 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **-butterfly-**: Hi, I would buy 2 TRU, posted ad on local market [05-May-24 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ainyru** joined.* [06-May-24 11:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DarkerThanBlack** left.* [06-May-24 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usered471d47ae** left.* [07-May-24 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FamousFries** joined.* [08-May-24 12:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***fetty** joined.* [10-May-24 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***profitprophet** left.* [10-May-24 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Gimme all ur water pl0x [10-May-24 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I like how you've got the pricing set up - sold you a little bit :p [10-May-24 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: appreciated! don't feel obligated, just trynna soak anything up I can -if anyone was drowning from lack of storage ;O [10-May-24 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I usually have 10-20k here so I can occasionally throw some around :] [10-May-24 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Prolly need to build a rig base one of these cycles [10-May-24 10:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: one can dream [10-May-24 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: You could always get in on Boucher ;] [10-May-24 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Boucher is pretty sweet. [10-May-24 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Oteador** joined.* [10-May-24 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: Boucher is amazing, just built over there yesterday. Too bad I ended up 50 PIO shy of max though [10-May-24 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: the problem I had with bouch a while back was just not having the shipping logistics ready in the long term [10-May-24 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: personally. [10-May-24 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: on a side not shipping a thing or two from hrt [10-May-24 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: as I like doing things in excess with little planning. yolo [10-May-24 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Worse comes to worse, Climax, you can sell the H2O on the local market :p [10-May-24 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: I can barely keep my bases full of inputs, the water is the catch all when my ag scheme overwhelms lol [10-May-24 04:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: 'divert all power to drinking water!' [10-May-24 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: You beautiful son of a bean farmer [10-May-24 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DeniedClimax** deleted this message.* [10-May-24 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: F, didn't mean to delete '@governor' [10-May-24 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: @governor 😭 [11-May-24 03:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Koobey** joined.* [11-May-24 05:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Koobey** left.* [11-May-24 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: going to prom if anyone needs sumtings hauled put them on lm [11-May-24 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: 20 min [11-May-24 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: expert #5 pog [11-May-24 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Very nice. [13-May-24 01:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SFScorpio** joined.* [13-May-24 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: few tings coming here from hrt if anyone free [13-May-24 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MushManRandallSavage** joined.* [13-May-24 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: @SFScorpio o/ [14-May-24 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SFScorpio**: Cheers! [14-May-24 03:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Darth_Merkel**: Hey Guys, I've now maxxed out my Farms on Promitor and Chu, what are the next-best Farming Planets close to here? (By the way: Chu offers Tax-free Farming and Water Extraction, join today! ;D) [14-May-24 04:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Lemuria, I would say. [14-May-24 04:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: You could farm on Danakil, but the CoGC is for construction. [14-May-24 04:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Easyc430** left.* [14-May-24 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: If you're interested in farming, you may have to go over to Harmonia soon :p [14-May-24 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ptdnxyz**: Gross, people are extracting water on Chu itself? I guess it's OK if you're doing the low-H2O GRN recipe or something but that deposit is terrible [15-May-24 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Darth_Merkel**: Yeah i dont actively extract water there, i just had 10 Units of Area left so i built a single RIG to somewhat support the water consumption [16-May-24 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***StoutCrusher** joined.* [16-May-24 02:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***StoutCrusher** left.* [17-May-24 01:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nical** joined.* [17-May-24 10:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***mathcrimes02** left.* [18-May-24 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***muad_dib** joined.* [18-May-24 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Feddtoni** left.* [19-May-24 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***sibe32** joined.* [20-May-24 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RedWolf_ShadowFlame** joined.* [21-May-24 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userdd2cb8759c** left.* [21-May-24 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **muad_dib**: hello [21-May-24 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: COLIQ and go to PRom [21-May-24 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: hi [21-May-24 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Howdy. Abrupt but not incorrect advice. [21-May-24 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Promitor is the place. [21-May-24 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Context: Avalon is a good secondary planet option, Promitor being the place where many people produce crops that you can then turn into rations (or further stuff) [21-May-24 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Promitor is full, plot wise - meaning you cannot get a spot on the planet without starting there. This is even more important due to it being the most fertile planet in the core of the galaxy :] [21-May-24 08:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: So I'm not saying that you shouldn't start on Avalon, just that starting on Promitor is objectively better and you can always join us on Avalon after not too long to process your food :p [21-May-24 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: You *can* start on Avalon, but you *should* start on Promitor and come to *Avalon* for your second planet. [21-May-24 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: ^ [21-May-24 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I meant to put the second set of asterisks around second, not Avalon, but I have brain damage. [21-May-24 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Brain damage is airborne here, it seems. [21-May-24 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I'm not sleeping enough, it's ruining my life, and it's all my fault. [21-May-24 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Hurray! [21-May-24 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: brb kms [21-May-24 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: See ya! [21-May-24 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: ( <3 ) [21-May-24 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: <3 [21-May-24 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ya the only way to get on promitor is to start on promitor, its a great planet and will never have a open base slot for those who didnt start on promitor. the planet pairs perfectly with avalon. why are you still reading this, restart on promitor [21-May-24 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: (And then hurry back to Avalon for your second base. We'd love to have you here.) [21-May-24 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Hm starting on ava, now there's an interesting challenge. [21-May-24 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: you could run it, but being locked out of prom..yikers [22-May-24 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: hi [22-May-24 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***J4AAceman** joined.* [22-May-24 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **muad_dib**: is vertical integration really that important? [22-May-24 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **muad_dib**: why not just never have a base on promitor [22-May-24 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: Prom has unique advantages discussed above that makes it desirable, and the only way to get in on it is to start there [22-May-24 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: And imo vertical integration is only good in specific cases that will become very apparent if you play this game more [22-May-24 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: COLIQ --> Promitor [22-May-24 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: do it now [22-May-24 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **muad_dib**: ok ill look into it :) [22-May-24 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: I'm not asking [22-May-24 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: Look [22-May-24 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: if you do restart on Prom, send me a DM and I'll give you 50k ICA [22-May-24 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: one time offer, limited time deal [22-May-24 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: He's not pro. [22-May-24 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: If I reset rn will you give me 50k on prom? [22-May-24 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: do not do that [22-May-24 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: lol [22-May-24 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: do it pussy [22-May-24 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: for that bag [22-May-24 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Please don't do that. [22-May-24 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: In the words of Quavo, "You get the bag and fumble it, I get the bag and flip it and tumble it (Yeah)' [22-May-24 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Who? [22-May-24 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: exactly [22-May-24 08:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPbF6BlmzV4 {Embed} Gucci Mane - Topic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPbF6BlmzV4 I Get the Bag (feat. Migos) Provided to YouTube by Guwop Enterprises/Atlantic I Get the Bag (feat. Migos) · Gucci Mane · Migos Mr. Davis ℗ 2017 Atlantic Recording Corporation Unknown: Alex Tumay Unknown: Colin Sing Unknown: Eddie "eMIX" Hernàndez Vocals: Gucci Mane Unknown: Guwop Producer: Metro Boomin Programmer: Metro Boomin Producer: Southside Programmer: Southside ... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/zJZez4jpoGza7ITwQMujFe8lcoAlew1bDX2p-CI-0j4/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/yPbF6BlmzV4/maxresdefault.jpg [22-May-24 10:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: @DeniedClimax I would. [23-May-24 08:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: hi um could someone give me BTA for my construction, I cant get materials because i have no people living there [23-May-24 08:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: hello? [23-May-24 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: dude is anyone even on [23-May-24 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: ? [23-May-24 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: my guess is that your request isn't clear enough for anyone to answer [23-May-24 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: oh um do you have BTA inventory? [23-May-24 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: How many BTA do you need? [23-May-24 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: 3 i guess [23-May-24 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: do u have that? [23-May-24 10:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: you're in luck [23-May-24 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: sent you a contract for them, accept it and I'll have them to you [23-May-24 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: To foreworn you, I will be going on lunch in 15 min and will most likely not fulfill it for the proceeding hour, just be warned. accept it or otherwise, but just a heads up [23-May-24 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: k thanks [23-May-24 10:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: damit i can't do the contract thingy because i have a free acount [23-May-24 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: i will just have to trade at the market thingy [23-May-24 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: ah, an oversight on my part, Didn't know you couldn't accept a contract sent. well..goodluck. :) [23-May-24 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: thnks:) [24-May-24 04:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **frozenice**: Yeah accepting a contract is a basic feature [24-May-24 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: hi I have placed an order for the BTA in the trade shop [24-May-24 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: it should work now but i haven't gotten any of them fufilled [24-May-24 08:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: do you think u could trade some with me? [24-May-24 08:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: You listed purchase offers for less than any of the listed selling offer. [24-May-24 08:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Additionally, your listings are cheaper than the highest purchase offer, so yours will only be fulfilled after those. [24-May-24 08:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: i know but i want to get those ones fufilled [24-May-24 08:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: You'll need to wait an awfully long time or offer a higher price. [24-May-24 08:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: k how do I edit orders? [24-May-24 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: You could have your orders fulfilled immediately if you offer a price that matches a sell offer. In this case, that would be 1,460 ICA. [24-May-24 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: k i do that now [24-May-24 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: Does anyone have ~400 SF fuel here [24-May-24 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Go to CXOS. You can delete your previous orders and list new ones. [24-May-24 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: k [24-May-24 08:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: You can check the order book for what you're trying to buy to see what offers you're competing against. [24-May-24 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: k i just put it in how long untill it be filled? [24-May-24 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: are other people able to fufill your requests? [24-May-24 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: for materials i mean [24-May-24 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: and r u able to complete my order? [24-May-24 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: hello? [24-May-24 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: where did everyone go [24-May-24 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: ?? [24-May-24 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: i be listening to musc in my class right now [24-May-24 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: it is instrimental pop songs but by and orchestra [24-May-24 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: did i spell orchistra right? [24-May-24 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: wow i type fast [24-May-24 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: hewo? [24-May-24 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: :) [24-May-24 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: dude ads are so anoying when it comes to utube [24-May-24 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: bruh [24-May-24 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [24-May-24 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: You're not going to win tons of fans spamming the chat. [24-May-24 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: oops i didnt realize i forgot i was still on here\ [24-May-24 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Do you have a ship or a warehouse at Hortus Station? [24-May-24 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: yes [24-May-24 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Check there. [24-May-24 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: im on it rn [24-May-24 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Otherwise, the order will be in a contract (CONTS) for you to redeem. [24-May-24 08:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Provided it went through. [24-May-24 08:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: k thanks [24-May-24 08:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: bie [24-May-24 09:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Fascinating individual. [24-May-24 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **RedWolf_ShadowFlame**: ? [24-May-24 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: He admires your chatting [24-May-24 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Paghera72** joined.* [24-May-24 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Huh. [24-May-24 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Wolves, man. [24-May-24 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Manwolves even. 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We received ~920k ICA worth of donations that aren't reflected in it but wanted to mention that here :] [28-May-24 10:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vT-2m1mVk9CaklJ3cnDjrbDqoQOKyk2IAsiz6IeC7JK0t8zoaYAXvdEekE5FuqUuC0TL_VMCCbwYtHH/pubhtml [28-May-24 10:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Skahletto**: buying drinking DW.IC1 for 70$ on the LM [29-May-24 01:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Anxuiz**: MCG buy ad @ 40/u on the LM [29-May-24 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Skahletto**: Buying BBH and BDE on the LM [29-May-24 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Skahletto**: above market price [30-May-24 12:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Altura16** left.* [30-May-24 12:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere91a91b547** left.* [31-May-24 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ezrael** joined.* [31-May-24 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Plontz** joined.* [01-Jun-24 03:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***wiktor1403** joined.* [01-Jun-24 03:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***muad_dib** left.* [01-Jun-24 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3cf192058e** left.* [01-Jun-24 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: aaand coule ads coming here from hrt [01-Jun-24 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JunkboX** joined.* [02-Jun-24 06:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **wit.iwfa**: buying RAT 120/u on the LM [02-Jun-24 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lokkij** joined.* [02-Jun-24 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZionOrion** joined.* [02-Jun-24 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Welcome to the neighborhood, @ZionOrion. [02-Jun-24 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Welcome :} [02-Jun-24 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: damn didnt realize i get another chat window too lol [02-Jun-24 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Avalon Sooper Seekrit Clubhouse [02-Jun-24 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: shouldn't it be SOUPER? [02-Jun-24 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: ;-P [02-Jun-24 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: looks like i can sell my RATs on LM and not have to transport them to station nice [02-Jun-24 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: You are correct. It is a food processing world. [02-Jun-24 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Yeah, plenty of people buy from the source. Keep in mind that you're likely to have plenty of space on the return trip if you want to take your output elsewhere to sell though. [02-Jun-24 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: The rations are a lot lighter than the crops. [02-Jun-24 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: yes i need to figure out logistics of shipping all my farm goods here and at what intervals needed to keep production going [02-Jun-24 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: PrUnPlanner has a nice shipping frequency tool. [02-Jun-24 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: i started with 2 habs and 5 FPs and a load of 100 each of BEA,NUT,GRN [02-Jun-24 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: as i phase out the FP on Prom and turn them into Farms and maybe another INC or two [02-Jun-24 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: think im gonna need another rig too [02-Jun-24 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Sounds like the play. [02-Jun-24 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: I cant figure out how to add a second base to pruplanner though, i got my prom base all set up on there but cant figure out how to add a second [02-Jun-24 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: is each base its own empire? [02-Jun-24 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: No. You need to make the plan for the second planet and then make sure it's assigned to the same empire as the first one from the Management screen. [02-Jun-24 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: how do i add another planet? [02-Jun-24 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Planet Search [02-Jun-24 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Make sure to save it after you draw it up. [02-Jun-24 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: ah now i see it...not very intuative ;-( [02-Jun-24 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: new base button is needed for the empire page or something [02-Jun-24 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [02-Jun-24 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: There's a learning curve. [02-Jun-24 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: indeed and thnx for helping me learn ;-) [02-Jun-24 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: No problem. [02-Jun-24 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: PrUnPlanner is very nifty, especially once you have more than one base. [02-Jun-24 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Definitely once you have more than one base o.o [02-Jun-24 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: is there a way to tell it that i am importing my own raw mats instead of it calculating the cost of me buying them? [02-Jun-24 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: like it saying i have to but GRN and BEA etc when i dont i can bring them in [02-Jun-24 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: *buy [02-Jun-24 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: It'll show that on the empire screen. [02-Jun-24 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: You can set price overrides as well, though I haven't bothered with that personally. [02-Jun-24 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: You used to have set set them all individually to get it to reflect it better, but PRUNplanner does a nicer job of that recently :p [02-Jun-24 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: I think i got it set up, thnx guys and/or gals! [02-Jun-24 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: Now I can hurry up and wait even more! [02-Jun-24 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Good luck! I don't wanna get in the way of your waiting ;] [02-Jun-24 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: You're welcome. [02-Jun-24 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I want chat's opinion on this, so the politics update is coming up *sometime* soon. I want to know this: If the devs give us a bit of heads up on the update, would you guys be opposed to me temporarily raising taxes very soon before it to start the government off with a good bit more liquidity? (Note, the government will be a separate context and have it's own bank account after the update) [02-Jun-24 06:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I will pay an amount greater than what I would have paid in increased taxes to hire an assassin. [02-Jun-24 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Will said assassin usurp my role as governor after he finishes your task? [02-Jun-24 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: where do i see current tax rate? [02-Jun-24 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: LR VH-331g [02-Jun-24 06:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Or go to PLI VH-331g, go to the top bar where there's context buttons and hit the one that says ^ [02-Jun-24 06:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: i must be blind [02-Jun-24 06:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: i dont see it [02-Jun-24 06:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Okay so, LR VH-331g, then under the fees tab, it has Production fees [02-Jun-24 06:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: PIO/SET/TEC/ENG/SCI - 15/25/270/1080/1980 ICA [02-Jun-24 06:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: ah thnx [02-Jun-24 06:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: whats the proposed increase? [02-Jun-24 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: When the update comes around, I could even do something like "temporarily raise PIOs to 30 and SETs to 40" Temporarily being probably the first two-three weeks of the update. [02-Jun-24 06:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Doing that would probably/most likely give us a healthy amount of money in the government account to do stuff as usual [02-Jun-24 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I defer to the governor's judgement. [02-Jun-24 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Also when the time of the update comes around, I'll throw out a list of people I'd endorse for parliament, but that isn't necessary now ;] [02-Jun-24 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: I'm too new to make an informed decision, I only have PIO currently and that would double my current tax. So I will defer to the wisdom of those who been here long enough [02-Jun-24 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: In all honesty, taxes are barely noticeable unless your liquid assets are literally empty, but I try not to go overboard with it here, just taxing enough to cover the management [02-Jun-24 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Most of the profit margins are wide enough for the taxes to be immaterial for the producer. [02-Jun-24 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: Yeah I'm sure I can handle it, as I say just too new to fully understand what degree of impact [02-Jun-24 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: In this situation, I consider the cost of mismanagement to be much worse than the cost of taxation. [02-Jun-24 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: it certainly wont put me under lol [02-Jun-24 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: That's very fair..I didn't understand any of it until my second month governing lmao [02-Jun-24 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: ive got a solid income with my prom farms [02-Jun-24 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: solid for a noob at least ;-P [02-Jun-24 06:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: How many FRMs you got? [02-Jun-24 06:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Promitor is a very reliable start. [02-Jun-24 06:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: currently 18 farms [02-Jun-24 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: i am deleting my FPs and adding farms as i am able [02-Jun-24 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Sweet. 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[10-Jun-24 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: You get a free undo in the first hour. [10-Jun-24 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Demolishing it will return the full amount. [10-Jun-24 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: and how would i go about demolishing it [10-Jun-24 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Base Menu --> Buildings --> Demolish [10-Jun-24 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: oh no it still says I can't afford an extractor lol [10-Jun-24 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: What start did you pick? [10-Jun-24 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: wait I'm dumb I already had an extractor [10-Jun-24 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: i was intending to make a smelter and now have it [10-Jun-24 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: ok so I started to gather 9 units of mag and it says 17 hours that's real time correct? [10-Jun-24 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: so Ijust come back tomorrow? [10-Jun-24 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Correct. [10-Jun-24 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: The start is slow, but it gives you a chance to get your bearings. [10-Jun-24 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: okay and when I come back tomorrow I started gathering magnetite I'll start smelting [10-Jun-24 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: then once I smelt all the ore what do I do with it lol [10-Jun-24 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Actually, magnetite isn't smelted. [10-Jun-24 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: oof [10-Jun-24 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: what about Tectosilisite [10-Jun-24 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: If you mine sulfur, though, that's smelted. [10-Jun-24 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: or sulfur crystals [10-Jun-24 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: okay [10-Jun-24 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: TS can be smelted or refined [10-Jun-24 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Huh. I forgot TS could be smelted. [10-Jun-24 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: That looks pretty uneconomical though. [10-Jun-24 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: With O and AL to make SI [10-Jun-24 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Yeah, probably [10-Jun-24 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Anyway, once you have enough product to sell, load it on your ship and fly to Hortus Station, where the commodity exchange is. [10-Jun-24 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Sell it, buy the things your workers need, and use what's left over to buy stuff to expand. [10-Jun-24 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: okay simple enough [10-Jun-24 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Oh yeah, smelting it looks awful [10-Jun-24 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: how much should i stockpile before going? [10-Jun-24 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: my ships carry 500m3 so I should probably fill them up first [10-Jun-24 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: I saw complaints in the reviews that the game was pay to win but I don't even see a cash shop [10-Jun-24 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Drag the fuel slider all the way down to make it a nice, slow flight. Flight time and fuel consumption are not linear, so you want to save as much fuel as you can. [10-Jun-24 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: There's a subscription model, but you keep important subscriber features after it lapses. Think of this as the free demo. [10-Jun-24 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: It's not pay to win for sure [10-Jun-24 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I'm pretty reluctant to play subscription games, but the people calling this pay-to-win are being unreasonable. [10-Jun-24 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Yep [10-Jun-24 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: If you decide you like it enough in a month of two to stick around, consider whether the subscriber features are worth it to you. [10-Jun-24 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: If you could buy in-game currency with real money, definitely [10-Jun-24 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: well it's cheaper than the insurance on my phone lol [10-Jun-24 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: >not rolling the dice on your phone [10-Jun-24 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: wish we could buy experts ;-P [10-Jun-24 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: or ships [10-Jun-24 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: i would fork out cash for either right now [10-Jun-24 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I'm glad you can't. [10-Jun-24 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Pay-to-win is bogus. [10-Jun-24 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Take out a loan. [10-Jun-24 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: i hate the term "pay to win" when there is no winning [10-Jun-24 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Well, okay. [10-Jun-24 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Pay-to-out-compete me in a sandbox. [10-Jun-24 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Yeah, I'm not a fan [10-Jun-24 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: Okay I will be back tomorrow thanks for the help [10-Jun-24 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: And I don't look at this as competition, I am more socialist than capitalist and I see this as a team sport. ;-) [10-Jun-24 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I mean, I'm not so different. I do think it kind of defeats the point of the game though. [10-Jun-24 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: the point of all games it to have fun [10-Jun-24 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: We're conquering the wilderness of space through heroic labor. Cash payment isn't labor. [10-Jun-24 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: No, the point of the game is to crush your enemies financially [10-Jun-24 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: I mean, uhhh...have fun! Yeah, have fun! [10-Jun-24 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: They don't have to be *crushed*, but I do yearn for the day when I can do some big market dumping. [10-Jun-24 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: That's fun [10-Jun-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: meh, i just want to go around the universe and populate every planet [10-Jun-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: beans for all! [10-Jun-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Good man [10-Jun-24 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Same here. [10-Jun-24 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Man's destiny is to spread across the stars. [10-Jun-24 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: IDIC [10-Jun-24 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: If anyone here has DW to spare, I put a cont on LM for 100 units, pretty please and tyvm [10-Jun-24 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: TY life saver [11-Jun-24 05:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Belladonna** joined.* [11-Jun-24 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Oteador**: buying 1 BDE on LM above market, because it appears that I don't know to count [11-Jun-24 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Ah. Regrettable. [11-Jun-24 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Procur**: I got you [11-Jun-24 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Oteador**: thanks! [11-Jun-24 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Procur**: Happens to the best of us lol [11-Jun-24 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Definitely. [11-Jun-24 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***uKuLeLe87** joined.* [11-Jun-24 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Haxov** left.* [12-Jun-24 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user123ba60fa8** left.* [12-Jun-24 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***chrisgo** left.* [13-Jun-24 01:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DampflokTV** left.* [13-Jun-24 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: if a planets soil fertilitiy is just -- does that mean you can't grow there [13-Jun-24 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Correct. Only certain planets support life. Hydroponic farms can be operated on any planet, though. [13-Jun-24 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: some integer value is required for FRM/ORC building construction/use. HYF require nothing, but there's I/O consequences from them. [13-Jun-24 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Yeah, watering HYF and keeping them in nutrient solution is somewhat intensive. [13-Jun-24 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: You can get some pretty impressive throughput with them though. [13-Jun-24 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Unless you want to grow grain, in which case you need amber waves of grain, not rows of nutrient trays. [13-Jun-24 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: (By which I mean that not every crop is suitable for hydroponics.) [13-Jun-24 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Impressive is an understatement. [13-Jun-24 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: And no, they all are suitable. [13-Jun-24 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: When you get to the point of wanting more quantity, over margins, it gets extremely relevant. [13-Jun-24 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Grain won't grow in HYF. [13-Jun-24 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: We get MAI instead., [13-Jun-24 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Neither will herbs. [13-Jun-24 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Yeah, that's all I meant. [13-Jun-24 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: It's possible to grow inputs for RATs with hydroponics. [13-Jun-24 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: ALG/BEA --- GRN/MAI ---- NUT/VEG [13-Jun-24 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Conventional farms are not strictly required to make basic food. [13-Jun-24 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: That's your RAT combos [13-Jun-24 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: pick and choose. [13-Jun-24 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Yep. [13-Jun-24 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: You also get CAF, but not HER [13-Jun-24 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Mhm. [13-Jun-24 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: RCO and HCP are on both. For better things you'll need the pop tech upgrades. [13-Jun-24 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tonatsi** joined.* [13-Jun-24 12:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Amber waves of grain. I like [13-Jun-24 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Would could assume we'd still have the same visible light spectrum? [13-Jun-24 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I would expect so. [13-Jun-24 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Welcome aboard, @Tonatsi! [13-Jun-24 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf6da717bbf** left.* [13-Jun-24 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***toaim** left.* [14-Jun-24 05:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Over the next few weeks I'm going to try to lower the amount of SETs we have on here while trying to not affect our TEC growth all too much. This involves me not inputting the OFF for the SST and INF after the current reserves run out to see how it affects it :] [14-Jun-24 06:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Reducing the SET bubble is one of the biggest challenges. Good luck! [14-Jun-24 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Thank you! I'll try my best but I won't let the other populations struggle depending on how difficult it is lmao [14-Jun-24 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: I've given up on Prom ;) [14-Jun-24 10:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Based [15-Jun-24 06:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: I mean, the SET issue is not a big one. All you have to do is literally cut off any Safety/Health POPI, which is easily done via editing the LRs. [15-Jun-24 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: PIOs won't run away, and everything else should be stable, provided that you have Comfort/Culture accounted for. [15-Jun-24 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: You might have a few TEC attrition, but the SET attrition will be farm more. [15-Jun-24 06:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: P.S.: It'll take a month for the happiness levels to average out from the previous upkeep periods. :) [15-Jun-24 06:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: *looks at VH-331a's LR-Population-Target levels* [15-Jun-24 06:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: wow, no wonder you've given up. Everything is on max settings. XD [15-Jun-24 07:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Yes please share your vast experience with us. [15-Jun-24 07:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Nah. [15-Jun-24 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: Claiming you know what you're doing but not explaining the details is badass [15-Jun-24 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: Boss level confidence [15-Jun-24 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: 😭 [15-Jun-24 02:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: https://pct.fnar.net/population-infrastructure/ {Embed} https://pct.fnar.net/population-infrastructure/ Population Infrastructure - PrUn Community Derived Information Community derived data & formulas from the game Prosperous Universe [15-Jun-24 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: It's pretty straightforward. most of PIO needs come from bases themselves. Anything that's up and running will provide >50% of general needs. SETs will always be greather than PIOs in regards to Safety/Health, so they can be nerfed entirely if you don't want SETs being maintained. [15-Jun-24 02:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Since PIO needs will always be greater than 50, you can pretty much run a PIO satisfaction of >70%, which will ensure an influx for the education thing (which never ends). Unless you're gunning for TEC/ENG/SCI with extra Comfort/Culture/Education POPI, then you'll always be running insufficiencies regarding their upkeeps. [15-Jun-24 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: But that's with no unemployment. From what I've modelled on Promitor, as an example, it'll have to upgrade a few higher tier POPI so that it can provide satisfaction (currently seriously undersatisfied). [15-Jun-24 02:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: But once such upgrades happen, then you can indefinitely run with + migration, looping with - migration, with education accounted for, albeit with higher POPI upkeeps since people are employing significant numbers of higher tier pops there. [15-Jun-24 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: I mean yeah, you can argue with me, regarding what's optimal, but each gov can model their own stuff with things like Archiel's sheet, or running their own. It's not the point though. If you dont wan't such fat, higher tier POPI, just cut them down. [15-Jun-24 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Whatisavanhallen** joined.* [16-Jun-24 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JakobS** joined.* [17-Jun-24 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: yo, huge favor. can someone shoot me a contd for 10 COF at 800 ea? :) 10 hours till my ship gets in with supplies :/ [17-Jun-24 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: I can but my next COF batch doesnt complete for 5 1/ hours if that helps? [17-Jun-24 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I can spot you. [17-Jun-24 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: pretty sad that i dont even have any spare, i need to start stocking consumables beyond "enough for today" [17-Jun-24 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: It'll come with time. [17-Jun-24 11:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: There's less of a cashflow crunch as your business grows. [17-Jun-24 11:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: At least, there have been for me. [17-Jun-24 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: i am trying to use every penny to make another so having supplies sitting around seems counter productive [17-Jun-24 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Exactly. [17-Jun-24 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LostInkwell** left.* [17-Jun-24 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Tyvm Filefolders! [17-Jun-24 03:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: No problem. [17-Jun-24 06:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Montea** joined.* [17-Jun-24 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user250d6cb935** left.* [18-Jun-24 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gladi099** joined.* [18-Jun-24 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: is magnetite worth mining over sulfur or tectosilisite? [18-Jun-24 04:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Honestly unsure - I will say that someone bought a batch of TS from me on Hortus for +200/u [19-Jun-24 01:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***valdin98** left.* [19-Jun-24 02:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lokkij** deleted this message.* [19-Jun-24 02:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Lokkij**: Thanks ENVictualia! [19-Jun-24 05:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sapho** left.* [19-Jun-24 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **iHateAnime**: Hello, any reason why there max 5 Wherehouse units per company? [19-Jun-24 05:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **iHateAnime**: *Warehouse [19-Jun-24 05:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: To get more, you need to upgrade the warehouse level - 1 more rentable unit every 2 levels until level 20 [19-Jun-24 06:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **iHateAnime**: oh thx, 20lvl max as I see? [19-Jun-24 06:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Yes [19-Jun-24 06:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: So max 10 rentable warehouse units each company [19-Jun-24 07:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DiggingLake** left.* [19-Jun-24 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Only CX stations have unlimited warehouses. [19-Jun-24 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: RIP DiggingLake [19-Jun-24 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I didn't even know he was sick. [19-Jun-24 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: He was just told of the tax hikes on Avalon, that's what did him in [19-Jun-24 11:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: :,( [19-Jun-24 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Another victim of @MysteriousWalrus reign of terror [19-Jun-24 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Without an end in sight. [19-Jun-24 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **fetty**: Shipping contracts from HRT to Avalon in local market. 5K each [19-Jun-24 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Suika** joined.* [19-Jun-24 06:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: @fetty no provision [19-Jun-24 06:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Prosting shipping ads without auto provision, uh. It's the bane of my existence. [19-Jun-24 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: yeah i got one of his as well, they gonna make me wait then i will too ;-P [19-Jun-24 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lguth3728** joined.* [20-Jun-24 02:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pomme_de_Terroriste** joined.* [20-Jun-24 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Akwaena** joined.* [20-Jun-24 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***uKuLeLe87** left.* [21-Jun-24 02:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Estrascolaptra** left.* [21-Jun-24 05:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: .... Still no provision from that person. [21-Jun-24 07:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: f [21-Jun-24 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: It doesn't seem like anyone is buying sulfur and silicon [21-Jun-24 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: I might have started on the wrong planet [21-Jun-24 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: it happens [21-Jun-24 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: you can always COLIQ to restart if you feel stuck [21-Jun-24 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: how long does it usually take you to get an order sold? [21-Jun-24 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: maybe there's not many people playing so i just need to wait [21-Jun-24 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: yes for sure some items move quicker than others [21-Jun-24 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: are you mining on avalon? [21-Jun-24 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: ya [21-Jun-24 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: the bonus for avalon is food [21-Jun-24 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: I also made the mistake of starting on a non fertile planet [21-Jun-24 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: yes if you want to farm [21-Jun-24 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: so i have to buy all my food and water [21-Jun-24 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: well regardless of where or what you start as you will always be needing to buy outside supplies [21-Jun-24 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: near impossible to be self suffient [21-Jun-24 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: by design me thinks [21-Jun-24 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: right but now that I know the mechanics I realize stability items are in high demand [21-Jun-24 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: since everyone needs to feed and water their people [21-Jun-24 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: yuppers [21-Jun-24 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: thats why i chose food to start [21-Jun-24 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: not because its best profit but it is steady demand [21-Jun-24 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: and early on they say its best to just sell to whoever is bidding rather than putting it on and waiting because idle money is not what you want starting out, every penny should be making money early game [21-Jun-24 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: have you tried Pruplanner? [21-Jun-24 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: https://prunplanner.org/ {Embed} https://prunplanner.org/ PRUNplanner Prosperous Universe Empire and Base Planning tool. Plan your empire and projects, dominate the markets. [21-Jun-24 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: allows you to build and plan bases and production lines outside the game using ingame data so you can test it before committing in game [21-Jun-24 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: You can make it work with an Avalon start, but I'm a big proponent of starting on Promitor and then expanding to Avalon. [21-Jun-24 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: It might be worth a COLIQ and restart. [21-Jun-24 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lguth3728**: So if someone were to produce water and rations for a reasonable price planeside they would be in high demand? [21-Jun-24 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lguth3728**: I recently started my second base here and was going to produce those anyway. So for me it would be cheaper to sell here then ship it back to hortus station. [21-Jun-24 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: It's not uncommon for big players to place orders on the local market here for bulk resupply. [21-Jun-24 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: If you're traveling between Promitor and Avalon already though, it isn't that far out of your way to swing by Hortus Station to sell your output though. [21-Jun-24 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lguth3728**: yeah some of my output would head here for my own base. I would just end up with excess and was wondering if I could sell it. [21-Jun-24 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Likely so. [21-Jun-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: wait there's a local market?! [21-Jun-24 04:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: I'm going to try liquidating everything i've made so far and see if I have enough to make a 2nd base on a fertile planet [21-Jun-24 04:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: Silicon doesn't seem worth making. Aluminum costs almost as much as silicon sells for and it's part of the production [21-Jun-24 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: There are other silicon processes that don't use aluminum. [21-Jun-24 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: It's still my impression that other minerals are more profitable to process though. [21-Jun-24 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: Please COLIQ and start on Prom [21-Jun-24 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: @gopher [21-Jun-24 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Plontz**: i saw coliq on the forums when i glanced there too but whats it mean? [21-Jun-24 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: restart [21-Jun-24 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Plontz**: ah, liquuidation? [21-Jun-24 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: or command liquidate which is essencially that [21-Jun-24 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Plontz**: gotcha [21-Jun-24 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: in case you make a bad start, wrong planet etc [21-Jun-24 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: There's a cooldown with its use though. [21-Jun-24 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Be smart, plan ahead with the APEX console, since you won't have the info when you COLIQ [21-Jun-24 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Fortunately, there's no need to COLIQ again after restarting on Promitor because it's the best start in the game. [21-Jun-24 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Eh.... [21-Jun-24 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: You'll get better starts on Boucher/Etherwind if you want a really simple and efficient solution..... But you'll never be able to get on Promitor. [21-Jun-24 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Or Montem, Or Vallis; or Katoa; or Deimos.. [21-Jun-24 06:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: "But you'll never be able to get on Promitor." [21-Jun-24 06:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Yeah. [21-Jun-24 06:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Real estate has value. [21-Jun-24 06:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I'm including that in my pronouncement that Promitor, the second most fertile planet in the game and right next to its CX, is the best start in the game. [21-Jun-24 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: also grows the best tasting beans [21-Jun-24 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Yes, also worlds famous beans. [21-Jun-24 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Most fertile planet within civilization ;] [21-Jun-24 06:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: ^ [21-Jun-24 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lexetal** left.* [21-Jun-24 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pomme_de_Terroriste** left.* [21-Jun-24 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: if I coliq will I lose all the progress i made gathering things? [21-Jun-24 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: or does that liquidate and come with me [21-Jun-24 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: if people would just buy my sulfur and silicone I'd be fine [21-Jun-24 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: you cheapos [21-Jun-24 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: the asking price for silicon is 800 while the asking price for aluminum is more [21-Jun-24 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: I need to use aluminum to make it lol [21-Jun-24 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: coliq is just a fresh restart [21-Jun-24 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: I've already played two weeks [21-Jun-24 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: 2 weeks isn't long in the grand scheme, especially w/o Pro [21-Jun-24 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: Prom + the previously mentioned plots are giga efficient [21-Jun-24 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Well if you're pro when you join, and you figure out that you need to COLIQ, you can always transfer your starting materials to a trusted pro licensee, to give back when you've figured out what you want to do. [21-Jun-24 09:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: I'm pretty sure the devs have balanced this sort of arrangement, since the COLIQ has an exponential timer, which increases per use (refer to the APEX manual for that one). [21-Jun-24 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: It's not much, but having friends really helps, when you make serious mistakes. :) [21-Jun-24 11:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: I think the main problem is that there's only a couple of things that seem to sell well [21-Jun-24 11:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: or lack of purpose [21-Jun-24 11:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: so you can't just start anywhere, because there's some things that just have no demand or little [21-Jun-24 11:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: theoretically you should be able to start anywhere and be fine [21-Jun-24 11:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cchienhs** joined.* [22-Jun-24 01:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: There is definitely a big difference in demand between different goods. [22-Jun-24 03:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ashes** left.* [22-Jun-24 04:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Basic consumables and B-fabs are like bread and butter. They go together really well, and you can't make a tasty sandwich without them. [22-Jun-24 04:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: If you want a fancier sandwich, you just up-tier yourself. :P [22-Jun-24 04:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ined**: Tasty sandwhiches are the best. [22-Jun-24 04:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Everything else, is literally a surplus market. Demand/sales are not guaranteed, at all. [22-Jun-24 05:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: I mean yeah, people will eventually need this, or that, or they decide to make a fabrication base that only churns out end-market stuff like consumables/fabs, and hence needs to buy things from the CX directly, et cetera. [22-Jun-24 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: There are a ton of things that sell @gopher [22-Jun-24 09:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: I make 11 unique goods I put on the CX - you just need to make sure you're making stuff that is annoying to make that people will buy it [22-Jun-24 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: or you need to get a feeling for how often your consumers are going to CX [22-Jun-24 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: for non-consumables, many will keep 14day+ buffers, which means they're only buying from you every 14 days [22-Jun-24 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: thats my experience with construction inputs at least [22-Jun-24 09:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: But that is yet ANOTHER reason why a Prom start is nasty good. You can make a variety of food/agri products that have great margins AND sell super to reasonably fast [22-Jun-24 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: Also, when you get into niche goods like Sulfur, it's good to have a specific plan (which is hard to do as a newbie) [22-Jun-24 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: I'm pretty confident the only people buying sulfur in significant quantities are in ANT and MOR [22-Jun-24 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: to make into IND [22-Jun-24 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***alexmaister** joined.* [22-Jun-24 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: yeah the market is currently buying sulfer for 60, which is less than the oxygen it takes to make it [22-Jun-24 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: however magnesium seems to be okay to sell [22-Jun-24 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: sorry, I meant magnetite [22-Jun-24 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: so I might be saved [22-Jun-24 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: if I just pump out a ton of magnetite I think I can get off this rock and on a fertile planet. It will take a long time though, but I can produce 180 every 11 days [22-Jun-24 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: how do I get more pioneers? [22-Jun-24 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: also experts [22-Jun-24 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: I could also experiment with selling tectosilisite for less than market value but above asking price [22-Jun-24 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: around 180 might suffice [22-Jun-24 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: You get more pioneers by building both more workplaces for them and more housing for them. [22-Jun-24 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Your base won't hire pioneers for which it doesn't have work or housing. [22-Jun-24 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: If a fertile planet is your goal, I really recommend liquidating and restarting on Promitor. [22-Jun-24 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Your start will be a lot smoother. [22-Jun-24 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: The sulfur and magnetite here are pretty good, but you might be disappointed in the size of the market. 56 units of magnetite sold on Hortus CX in the last week. [22-Jun-24 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: agreed, a restart on promitor is definitely the way [22-Jun-24 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: you can't get on promitor as a second base anymore, only if it's your first [22-Jun-24 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **xflqr_**: and it's quite literally the best planet in the game [22-Jun-24 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I would offer to take up a collection to offset the progress you'll lose, but I can't send cash directly to a free player. [22-Jun-24 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Lots of people COLIQ and restart, sometimes later than two weeks in. [22-Jun-24 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***raicon** left.* [22-Jun-24 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: wait i can't ever build another base on promitor? [22-Jun-24 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **SweatyGopher13**: what about contracts are they worth doing [22-Jun-24 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SweatyGopher13** left.* [22-Jun-24 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Depends. [22-Jun-24 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Promitor is full though. The only way to get a plot there is to start there. [22-Jun-24 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: That's why so many people in this chat advoate liquidating your company and restarting on Promitor. [22-Jun-24 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Promitor is EZ mode. [22-Jun-24 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Very strong start. [22-Jun-24 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Some contracts will cost you more to fulfill than you'll get out of them, so exercise discretion. [23-Jun-24 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***N0ma13** joined.* [24-Jun-24 12:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: I used COLIQ several times early in so I had a month timer at one point preventing a restart lol [24-Jun-24 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Whew. [24-Jun-24 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Filefolders** deleted this message.* [24-Jun-24 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Filefolders** deleted this message.* [24-Jun-24 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Filefolders** deleted this message.* [24-Jun-24 12:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Never COLIQed. [24-Jun-24 12:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Stuck the landing first try. [24-Jun-24 12:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Unlike typing these messages, which I screwed up repeatedly. [24-Jun-24 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Holy moly [24-Jun-24 09:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***JakobS** left.* [24-Jun-24 09:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: With the announcement of the upcoming Politics update, I decided it'd be a good time to drop my endorsements for members of parliament for the next election. In order to continue running Avalon like I have thus far, I'd like it if we could form one with me as Governor then @Andy97, @worvand, @Filefolders, and @--SCHAITR-- [$LUME] [24-Jun-24 09:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: 💪 [24-Jun-24 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: What are your [24-Jun-24 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: policies [24-Jun-24 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: Will Avalon be changed into an electronics planet? [24-Jun-24 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Heh heh heh, of course not! [24-Jun-24 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: My policies...make money :] [24-Jun-24 09:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: idk, that laughing seemed a bit sarcastic [24-Jun-24 09:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I hate electronics [24-Jun-24 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Procur**: Has there been a date announced yet? [24-Jun-24 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: Wednesday [24-Jun-24 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Aye, I look forward to it :] [24-Jun-24 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I can assure you that Councilor Filefolders will never support policies which deviate Avalon from its current course of feeding the diligent workers of Insitor and beyond. [24-Jun-24 02:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: long live the parliament of Avalon! [24-Jun-24 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GawainMM** joined.* [24-Jun-24 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: any plans on improving the warehouse btw? or do most people feel like that the current level is enough due to the high volume of shipping done around here? [24-Jun-24 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: It's enough for me, but I would appreciate the expansion anyway. [24-Jun-24 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: @machioro I do have plans on getting it to 3000t/3000m - I've just been low in liquidty recently [24-Jun-24 05:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: That's probably going to be occurring not too far from now, I do think upgrading the warehouse even further is just a long tern goal though :} [24-Jun-24 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: yeah, little by little is fine [24-Jun-24 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: I have some left overs from dismantling buildings I had from a second permit that I had to vacate to something else, but then also had a bunch of buildings close to the 45d mark [24-Jun-24 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: maybe I contribute some myself after all, no biggie [24-Jun-24 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Honestly I can finish that upgrade next time I decide to send a ship here. [25-Jun-24 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: that'd be lovely, I just screwed two people over with them shipping stuff to me here due to my lack of space (actually my poor planning that resulted in a lack of space) [25-Jun-24 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: put up some RAT for sale, just below HRT prices, in case anyone is interested. expected delivery within 1 day and 7 hours. and no, it has nothing to do with me trying to free up space until we have an upgraded warehouse, dunno why you'd think that. [25-Jun-24 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vention**: I'm slowing my buying of RATs on-planet for the next week or so as I'll be away till next Monday and don't expect much internet access. Apologies I can't continue to help free up that space ;) [25-Jun-24 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: ha, thanks mate <3 I'll figure it out [25-Jun-24 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***theMonolit** joined.* [26-Jun-24 02:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nano_xXx**: How long that "Temporary" Tax raise will be? [26-Jun-24 02:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: At the latest - until July 20th, though depending on how the finances actually work in this I might change it back sooner :] [26-Jun-24 03:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: Vote Gladi for Parliament - Experience from Nova Honshu! :D [26-Jun-24 06:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: did anyone else notice if their production lines got mixed up after the update? [26-Jun-24 06:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: and flight ETAs [26-Jun-24 06:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: I sent a message here yesteday, 22h ago, about RATs being ready in 1d and 7h... those are still 1d away, something is really off [26-Jun-24 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: although the % is correct [26-Jun-24 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: maybe it's pmmg then? [26-Jun-24 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: nvm, I misscalculated stuff and my production is slower [26-Jun-24 07:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Interludio** joined.* [26-Jun-24 07:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: Ive heard whispers about pmmg being temporarily fucked up [26-Jun-24 07:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: was the $ per m/t for shipping ads also a pmmg feature? just realized it's also missing [26-Jun-24 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Correct [26-Jun-24 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Looking like it's going to be an interesting election on almosf every major world 😅 [26-Jun-24 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: yeah, chats are quite busy. interesting times. [26-Jun-24 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Anihillator** joined.* [26-Jun-24 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Darth_Merkel**: Now thats what i call an election. This is gonne be fun... :D [26-Jun-24 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I look forward to it. [26-Jun-24 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: It'll be interesting to watch. [26-Jun-24 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: It'll be interesting to see how fiercely contested the elections after this one will be. [26-Jun-24 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: will we see the rise of political parties across the galaxy? [26-Jun-24 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Darth_Merkel**: ohhh, that would be so cool! [26-Jun-24 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I'm *guessing* the majority of planets will win with majority of people trying to keep the status quo [26-Jun-24 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Though Promitor and Avalon are the only planets I've seen where the incumbent has endorsed others :p [26-Jun-24 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: I think the most interesting, and potentially dramatic scenarios, would be the ones where there are three distcint parties running, and all of them get a seat, and there is potential for the second and third places to try and unite against the governor [26-Jun-24 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: although having a single party as opposition is already quite rare, from what I've seen, not to mention 2 opposing parties [26-Jun-24 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: or maybe a flock of inexperienced players just run for the sake of it and fill out seats just to annoy the governor, who knows... [26-Jun-24 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: talking about mid size planets though, don't think that would happen to planets like Prom or Avalon [27-Jun-24 04:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Lhokee**: Danakil and a few other planets are endorsing others. It is not just Prom and Avalon [27-Jun-24 05:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Montea** left.* [27-Jun-24 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Aye, I'm not saying there aren't others, but at the time of my message those were the only ones I have seen (I don't have a base on Danakil) [27-Jun-24 07:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zugore** joined.* [27-Jun-24 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: greetings neighbors [27-Jun-24 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Ah hello there, welcome @Zugore [27-Jun-24 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Seeing you everywhere recently [27-Jun-24 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: Yeah, I have clients here and a new cont starting in the near future that requires my presence at Avalon. [27-Jun-24 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: I do get around.... [27-Jun-24 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Clients? What kind of stuff do you do exactly? [27-Jun-24 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: Logistical support - provisioning....corporate client. [27-Jun-24 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Fair enough :p [27-Jun-24 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: Been working this contract for 8 weeks now. [27-Jun-24 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Thanks, @ZionOrion. [27-Jun-24 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: huh? [27-Jun-24 09:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: @MysteriousWalrus I wouldn't be surprised if people start doing HYF here. It's a nice location, with a surplus of H20 always available at the CX. Or other things for that matter. Lots of stuff to be done on an MCG-world right next to a CX. [27-Jun-24 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: @ZionOrion - for contributing to the CoGC :P [27-Jun-24 09:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: @Roh, people do all sorts of weird stuff here [28-Jun-24 07:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: have considered HYF leap [28-Jun-24 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***HamletsFather** left.* [28-Jun-24 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Lhokee**: @MysteriousWalrus you make that sound like a bad thing ;p [28-Jun-24 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Darth_Merkel**: that depends on your attitude ;P [28-Jun-24 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: @Lhokee I'm confused, make what sound like a bad thing? [28-Jun-24 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Oh not aligning with CoGC - I literally have refineries and extractors here. [28-Jun-24 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Lhokee**: people doing all sorts of weird stuff [28-Jun-24 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Lhokee**: OMG it's Darth_Merkel. <3 your name. If you know anything about Angela and her past, it hits just right [28-Jun-24 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Lhokee**: Now you are going to make me read up to try and see what you think I was referring to about whatever you were talking about refineries and extractors [28-Jun-24 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Ah I guess 'weird' could be taken negatively :p [28-Jun-24 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I mostly just mean uh, an assortment of stuff that doesn't align with the CoGC - people using smelters and stuff on Promitor is weird, but to each their own :} [28-Jun-24 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: And honestly, the sun's been beating me this week, I read your message and I had to read the chat a few times to figure out what you were referring to and it made me feel stupid when it finally clicked lmao [28-Jun-24 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Lhokee**: I know right, how could anyone see weird and not immediately go to wow how original or edgy or he is blazing a new trail, setting a new trend, thinking outside the box ... you get the idea. I wasn't meaning to come off as serious [28-Jun-24 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pixelriegel** left.* [28-Jun-24 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Exanik** joined.* [29-Jun-24 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gvision** joined.* [29-Jun-24 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***OfWales** joined.* [29-Jun-24 11:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***cchienhs** left.* [30-Jun-24 01:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ptdnxyz** left.* [30-Jun-24 05:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***la_hoghead** left.* [30-Jun-24 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: hey folks, I have an ad up at HRT station to bring the remaining TRU in order to finish the warehouse upgrade [30-Jun-24 07:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: if anybody can pick it up so we can have that finished, I'd appreciate it [30-Jun-24 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: thanks! 6th unit available :) [30-Jun-24 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: <3 [30-Jun-24 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I would say someone's successfully trying to buy my vote, but you aren't even running. [30-Jun-24 03:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: lol [30-Jun-24 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: I'm good, as most people here, I trust Walrus and his buds [30-Jun-24 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: don't think I'd be able to contribute much more than eventually contributing with materials and voting for the current CoGC program [30-Jun-24 03:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: which I don't need a seat on the PM to do, so... [30-Jun-24 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Appreciated! Any support is great [30-Jun-24 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I do look forward to the election :} [30-Jun-24 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: As it's Sunday, a little past 8 PM EST I got the remnants of that weeks dividend [30-Jun-24 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I subtracted the amount I put towards the first program and contributed it to the Government :] [30-Jun-24 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LancerCaster**: I can't believe there'd be corruption in this government! It's unbelievable! [30-Jun-24 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LancerCaster**: *Hides the 1$ I stole from Astraeus' government [30-Jun-24 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: lmao [01-Jul-24 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: shuttle run from Avalon to Promitor, then to HRT Station....departs 25m...space available 600/600 [01-Jul-24 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: 300/220 remaining [01-Jul-24 09:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: departing [02-Jul-24 01:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: Flew in to repair and of course am one BHP sort. I put add above market for one BHP if anyone has an extra to spare [02-Jul-24 01:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZionOrion** deleted this message.* [02-Jul-24 02:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Frosty802**: I will later today so if its still their I'll fulfill it for you [02-Jul-24 05:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: Thx [02-Jul-24 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BlackBelt2007** left.* [02-Jul-24 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: for some weird reason I have one pioneer over my required amount. size is displaying 1161, out of 1160 required. odd. [02-Jul-24 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: that's where he went....send him home [02-Jul-24 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I've got one Settler working here without any housing for him... [02-Jul-24 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: I've heard of ghost experts, but never ghost settlers...nice bug. [02-Jul-24 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: he's just a learned PIO trying to graduate early [03-Jul-24 05:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GoatGerrie** joined.* [03-Jul-24 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Day before the election so I'll restate who I hope you guys will vote for. @worvand, @Andy97, @Filefolders, and --SCHAITR-- [$LUME], and me as governor. Andy and worvand, have put millions worth of building materials and inputs into the planets POPI, Filefolders has always been very helpful in this chat while also being leader of one of the bigger Insitor corporations. Schaitr is an obvious choice as long-term governor of Promitor and formerly Boucher - I like to think I've done a pretty good job managing the planet these past months, but with their support I hope to get Avalon in better shape. [03-Jul-24 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maxliam708** joined.* [03-Jul-24 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***theMonolit** left.* [04-Jul-24 12:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: This oldtimer is just looking for a parliament seat, thats all [04-Jul-24 12:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: I'm just looking for galactic domination [04-Jul-24 04:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Stroke58** joined.* [04-Jul-24 04:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Stroke58** left.* [04-Jul-24 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: @Gladi099, you already have three of those. [04-Jul-24 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: :D [04-Jul-24 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: I'm new to Avalon (and compared to those guys ^^^, new to PrUn)...all those donations over the months and years, though surely appreciated by all, were voluntary - not sure why one would think that qualifies someone for office. So, I'm here to represent the newbies, not the has been's; and as a newbie, to learn the ropes of governance under the tutelage of more experienced folks that will surely be on the council too. Let's not have 1 clique entirely running the show. [04-Jul-24 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: The past 20 years have tainted me on politics, I don't trust none of ya [04-Jul-24 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neoshancullman**: <3 you all. could not help but smile at reading the comments [04-Jul-24 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: @Roh , call me a collector [04-Jul-24 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: @Zugore, while I sort of understand the sentiment, the planet can not run off of goodwill. While you may not agree, while those donations were voluntary, they were by site owners on Avalon that wanted to help maintain Avalon's population and keep it running [04-Jul-24 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: If being a new player qualifies you someone for office, then surely being an older player with a history of supporting the planet should too. [04-Jul-24 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: looks like we're witnessing the first round of debates for the upcoming term o.o [04-Jul-24 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Who's better at golf though? [04-Jul-24 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: Sure - I'm not simply new, just newer than you - from your speeches and conversations though, it almost seems as though you're completely against new players participating in anything - in fact can't seem to recall any of your boys in the global help thread assisting new players (may I missed it)....I get that it takes more than a little effort to support and grow a planet, and am willing to throw in my fair share. [04-Jul-24 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: Walrus has my vote [04-Jul-24 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: he fixed that gnarly technician issue [04-Jul-24 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: @Filefolders - I suck at golf [04-Jul-24 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: though I'm willing to play along cause its enjoyable [04-Jul-24 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: @LNS - no doubt [04-Jul-24 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: It's important that new players' interests be represented, but I will vouch for MysteriousWalrus helping new players. He's been very active in Insitor space and has helped multiple players, including myself, as we have grown in the game. [04-Jul-24 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: no doubt [04-Jul-24 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: He's a solid dude, but I will need to hear about his golf game before making a fully informed decision. [04-Jul-24 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I'm definitely a golf God. [04-Jul-24 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: here come global domination [04-Jul-24 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: You've never seen a swing like mine! [04-Jul-24 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: this guy knows his way around holes [04-Jul-24 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: no way around it [04-Jul-24 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: Oh, I can swing - hitting the ball is anbother matter entirely [04-Jul-24 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: It feels like every time I turn around Filefolders is in here helping newer players with something or another [04-Jul-24 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: "People see my swing, and they tell me, 'You have the most beautiful swing I've ever seen!' It's true!" [04-Jul-24 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: I think there's more than way of helping. being active in the help channel does give you some visibility, but doing what walrus does here and schaitr at prom is likely less noticiable, especially by newcomers. they have kept the status quo so far making it great for the majority, and I think they should continue to do so until they get bored. [04-Jul-24 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: more than one way* [04-Jul-24 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I think they should keep doing it even if they get bored. None of you is allowed to quit until I decide you can quit. [04-Jul-24 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: Outstanding point File [04-Jul-24 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: https://y.yarn.co/c87d095a-198f-4dd8-83b5-01cecad9b80c_text.gif {Embed} https://y.yarn.co/c87d095a-198f-4dd8-83b5-01cecad9b80c_text.gif https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/EvGRn0tJMO9qQaKvNFqnMDIESiRb3cv8mufG51SQu54/https/y.yarn.co/c87d095a-198f-4dd8-83b5-01cecad9b80c_text.gif [04-Jul-24 03:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Only reason I stopped the financial reports was because of the politics update, that kind of threw a wrench in that lmao [04-Jul-24 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: It'll be interesting to do if they do anything with the government accounting feedback the devs were soliciting on the forum. [04-Jul-24 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: *interesting to see [04-Jul-24 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Idk why the devs solicit feedback. They tried to implement GAAP, but it was never actually implemented? You'll notice in your company's books, that there's plenty of accounts for GOV related revenues and expenses, but for some reason, such things were ported to be only collected via CORP accounting, which is ever so general, and completely useless (especially since the politic update). [04-Jul-24 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Yeah, it's not real GAAP. [04-Jul-24 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: They could provide some simpler but more useful tools, which would be nice to see. [04-Jul-24 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: What they should do, is clean up the redundancies in the CO accounting, basically remove corporate accounting (since there's no way to kick back revenues to an organization anymore), and actually make Ship Valuation work? [04-Jul-24 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Sounds good to me. [04-Jul-24 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: you can post it on the forum if you want. Who know's if they'll listen, since they've got alot on their plate. [04-Jul-24 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: They definitely do. [04-Jul-24 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: god I hope they do [04-Jul-24 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Oh, I meant they have a lot on their plate. [04-Jul-24 04:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Procur**: I have a feeling that now that they've developed the government context system they may expand it to Corporations in the future [04-Jul-24 04:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: That would be cool [04-Jul-24 04:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: Part of the economic warfare system... [04-Jul-24 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: conquering planets... [04-Jul-24 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: you'd be better off with checking out "Falling Frontier" on steam, if you want to conquer planets. [04-Jul-24 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Expanse-esque RTS/TBS with a Sol-centric environment, ahead from us for like 300-400 years. It is looking very nice so far, release expected later this year. [04-Jul-24 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I was going to ask if that was any good, but it's not out yet. [04-Jul-24 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: It looks pretty cool. [04-Jul-24 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: "Enemy officers not killed in action can be captured and interrogated, or left in their escape pods as bait in order to ambush any rescue ships." [04-Jul-24 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Ah, another war crime simulator for me to play. [04-Jul-24 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: War crimes, all the way. [04-Jul-24 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: It's not like the enlisted peeps should have any expectation of survival, upon contact, anyways. The stuff is beyond brutal. [04-Jul-24 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Darth_Merkel**: Good luck to all the candidates, may the best people win ^^ [04-Jul-24 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Darth_Merkel**: And since im running, maybe just a few words: I've been governing a small farming planet for a few months now (by the way: settle on Chu GY-110c ! Tax free farming!) and would really appreciate the chance to learn from some Experts how to best govern a planet, especially a larger one. [04-Jul-24 06:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: too bad, the experts only want to hang with their peeps - they don't want to teach other new folks - they just want yes men to ride their coat tails, so that the status quo doesn't change. [04-Jul-24 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: good old if it aint broke dont fix it [04-Jul-24 08:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: No one's saying it's broken, but if no one new is allowed to join the good ol' boys club....eventually we'll rum out of good ol' boys (and the knowledge and wisdom they could have passed along. [04-Jul-24 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: My problem is not with any of the individuals on the "ticket", it's the fact that there's a ticket - vote for me and my cronies or everything will go to hell in a hand-basket. [04-Jul-24 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: I like it the way it is, why the devs thought to change the system, who knows, I want to keep doing things my way without any input from anyone else - that's where I have issues. [04-Jul-24 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: It's not the individuals or their past contributions or their performance in any particular role...just the superiority complex they espouse - no one other than who they say should be involved - doesn't much like we're voting for a governor, more a dictator - All Hail Walrus and his lackeys. [04-Jul-24 08:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: At this point, I know even if I make it onto the parliament, I can't affect change - he'll be the governor, two of his lackeys will be there at his side and schaitr will just sit idly in his seat occupying space - just like at Verdant, no word, no vote, no show. [04-Jul-24 08:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Cronies, huh? [04-Jul-24 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: What change would you like to see? You've been here what, a week? [04-Jul-24 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: Global domination, much? [04-Jul-24 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Do you know what sarcasm is? [04-Jul-24 08:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: Attitude [04-Jul-24 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: yes, very much so [04-Jul-24 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: but on a stump, unless of course you're riding coattails [04-Jul-24 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: I have an attitude? [04-Jul-24 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: did not say that, have never engaged with you [04-Jul-24 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: don't know you from adam [04-Jul-24 08:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: And yet you're slandering me [04-Jul-24 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: where have I mentioned you by name? when have I slandered you? [04-Jul-24 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Well, I'm one of those "lackeys" youre referring to [04-Jul-24 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: unless you're multi-accounting and forgot to switch accounts [04-Jul-24 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I never said the planet would turn into a hellhole if other people got elected, I simply stated that if people wanted to keep supporting the current administration, they should vote for the candidates I endorsed. [04-Jul-24 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: ^ [04-Jul-24 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: I don't see what's so hard to understand about that [04-Jul-24 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: there, you've just identified yourself as his lackey, it's ok for you to identify as such but not for me to refer to you as such? [04-Jul-24 08:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: He was using your word choice... hence the quotes [04-Jul-24 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: touche, my words... [04-Jul-24 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: sentiment remains unchanged [04-Jul-24 08:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: You're really making a good pitch for your candidacy acting like this [04-Jul-24 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: I'm not acting like anything, I simply responded to a citizen that made a comment [04-Jul-24 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: You seem like somebody that I'd love to work with. Maybe that's why he endorsed certain people? [04-Jul-24 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I just and rubbed the wrong way by your behavior in this chat. You come onto the planet just seven days ago and immediately run for a seat on Parliament, preaching how you're doing it to represent the newbies [04-Jul-24 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: being a newbie myself, yeah - [04-Jul-24 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I'm trying to be respectful but each message you've sent has been pretty passive aggressive. [04-Jul-24 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: I actually registered for the election before I built my base here, they're unrelated, as discussed earlier [04-Jul-24 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Heh [04-Jul-24 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: How's that better? [04-Jul-24 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: I already know and have admitted I cannot affect change here - my biggest issue is one faction holding 5 seats....not like it matters at this point, I've seen the new system from the inside already, and know that everything that is done will be in public view, so anything negative can only last a month. [04-Jul-24 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: I'm still curious what change you would like to see [04-Jul-24 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: I've never said you will do anyting negative or that you are a bad guy and should not be elected governor....never...you rubbed me the wrong way first with the me and my guys only exclusive club attitude....sorry, just the way I feel about it. [04-Jul-24 08:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: I don't believe I ever said I expected change in policy, Andy. [04-Jul-24 08:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: I have never once said he Walrus was a bad governor or didn't deserve to be reelected or continue running the planet [04-Jul-24 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: I'm sorry gents you're not used to folks sharing their opinion with you. [04-Jul-24 08:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: He's run the planet single-handedly for 8 months. What is so crazy about having one group run the planet? [04-Jul-24 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: And it's not just one group either [04-Jul-24 08:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: The endorsement doesn't support that statement [04-Jul-24 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: I'm plenty used to people sharing their opinion with me [04-Jul-24 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: and countless folks have run countless planets single-handedly - so what, new system, new rules, new opportunities [04-Jul-24 08:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Yeah, and how exactly does endorsing people for parliament conflict with that? [04-Jul-24 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: this really isn't about you Andy [04-Jul-24 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Yeah, it is [04-Jul-24 08:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: The conversation to which I was referring earlier, with respect to words exchanged with the good Governor, did not occur in this room - so I can definitely say, this is not about you Andy. [04-Jul-24 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Are you talking about our conversation on WB-675c? [04-Jul-24 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: likely [04-Jul-24 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: yes in fact [04-Jul-24 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Likely 😭 [04-Jul-24 08:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: (had to think for a minute sorry [04-Jul-24 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: theres also Verdant [04-Jul-24 08:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: though I don't believe we've spoken there [04-Jul-24 08:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: No, Shagie's doin a good job there so I'm less involved. [04-Jul-24 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: But I do believe conversations about governorship involving this planet, are relevant here. [04-Jul-24 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: You've been very talkative about governance on this planet in this chat the past few days [04-Jul-24 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: You keep talking about us as if we're gonna run this planet like the mob [04-Jul-24 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: we are in the midst of an election andy and I'm not roding the coattails of the sitting governor, I think its appropriate to be discussing governance here, don't you? [04-Jul-24 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: It's appropriate, but it doesn't make sense to say it isn't about someone else [04-Jul-24 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: You aren't making any sense at all [04-Jul-24 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: I think it's perfectly fair to be discussing governance here [04-Jul-24 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: But he's not running his own campaign, he's an attachment to yours [04-Jul-24 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: I'm just running to ensure he can continue to run the planet as well as he has [04-Jul-24 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: and you tyhink I would be a detriment to that, andy? [04-Jul-24 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: And you are making a very good point of why it makes sense to do that [04-Jul-24 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Yes [04-Jul-24 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Which is also technically his campaign, because as I said, he and worvand donated a lot to help upkeep this planet in the past [04-Jul-24 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Clearly [04-Jul-24 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Them donating a lot to the planet and helping upkeep infrastructure is actually relevant, despite what you have said [04-Jul-24 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: Why do you think I pose a threat to his ability to continue to govern? [04-Jul-24 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: What campaign are you running exactly? Any time I ask you for specifics on these nebulous arguments you keep making you just deflect. [04-Jul-24 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: I've never said their donations were not relevant, nor unappreciated. [04-Jul-24 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: You run for office on this planet and then land here less than a week ago and all I see from you is the same sort of antagonistic remarks [04-Jul-24 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: What should I think of you? [04-Jul-24 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: As I told your boss when he asked, I ran to represent the interests of my clients who do not have time IRL to be involved in politics IG; the base is a separate issue and came later to prepare for a new contract. [04-Jul-24 08:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: It's not really a separate issue [04-Jul-24 08:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: I'm curious as to what these "interests" are [04-Jul-24 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: You're complaining about how you won't be able to enact change but have nothing to say about what that "change" would be [04-Jul-24 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: I'm a decent, hard-working guy, who supports those coming up behind him, defers to those with wisdom and experience who are willing to share it, and supports the growth and development of the communities in which I reside and do business. That's who I am....I prefer inclusiveness to exclusivity, and that is where we are coming to a head. [04-Jul-24 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: We started "coming to a head" before I had a clue who you were, that's where I'm confused [04-Jul-24 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: did you ever ask? [04-Jul-24 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: before thios conversation [04-Jul-24 09:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: No. Like I said I've watched you go on and on about this for the last few days and then I got tired of biting my tongue. [04-Jul-24 09:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: It's only been a day, I made a short stump pitch like everyone else just before the polls opened....and then this conversation this evening. Hours, not days....pace yourself, though, polls remain open for a week! [04-Jul-24 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: On a side note - must be the fourth of July - it's like I'm in the middle of a live-fire exercise....but I'm surrounded 150-foot trees, so not a flash of light anywhere to be seen....just the constant barrage of explosions in the distance. [04-Jul-24 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Yeah, all my neighbors are launching fireworks. The dogs are thrilled. [04-Jul-24 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: I bet... [04-Jul-24 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: It doesn't even have to be a "firework" holiday around here....they blast em off for any old special occasion [04-Jul-24 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: My immediate neighbors at least tend to stick to the two fireworks holidays. [05-Jul-24 12:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: "Rich" discussions here on governing, much more than on Prom where I expected more 😅 [05-Jul-24 12:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Perhaps you can also share the reasons you have ran for elections and even governed planets that you don't have a base on @Zugore? I've always been curious about those [05-Jul-24 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Better watch out @--SCHAITR-- [05-Jul-24 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: His corporate client might suddenly take an interest in Promitor! [05-Jul-24 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: I find it hard to trust anyone that actively seeks political office, just saying [05-Jul-24 12:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: Public servants are an extinct species I fear [05-Jul-24 12:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: That may be an issue in a general sense, but as a long-time resident of planets managed by a couple of these candidates and a partial patron of a few planets myself, I know that these guys run a tight ship, sometimes at their own expense. [05-Jul-24 12:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Promitor and Avalon have excellent staffing on minimal taxes, and the CoGCs run without a hitch. [05-Jul-24 12:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Besides, there isn't a Prosperous Universe equivalent of Congressional insider trading, so there's not a whole lot of personal enrichment to be achieved through being an office hound. [05-Jul-24 12:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: I enjoy managing the population and most of the mechanics behind governance. I find it fun, but for the most part it's a thankless job and you can wind up sinking a lot of money into it really quick. [05-Jul-24 12:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Exactly what Filefolders said [05-Jul-24 12:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: That said, I can understand finding the behavior of office hounds annoying. I can't do much for you on that front. [05-Jul-24 12:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: There must be some level of "enrichment" for so many to be trying so hard [05-Jul-24 12:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: The enrichment is preventing mismanagement of the planet where they do business. [05-Jul-24 12:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Exactly [05-Jul-24 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: But it also opens another fun aspect of the game to you [05-Jul-24 12:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Probably also not infrequently a little megalomania too, but I can stomach that in exchange for good governance. [05-Jul-24 12:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Playing as governor can be a fun way to cultivate a planet. [05-Jul-24 12:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: I get to be King of my own little rock [05-Jul-24 12:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: That is the satisfaction [05-Jul-24 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I like to keep the population happiness number high (within reason). [05-Jul-24 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: My workers deserve the best (within reason). [05-Jul-24 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: I can show you my books for Danakil if you'd like. I'm at a 3.2 million NCC defecit since I took office. [05-Jul-24 01:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Lhokee**: This is much better than the Verdant chat. After scrolling up and reading all that I feel the need to have a smoke (cough) Thank you all, and good luck to all the candidates [05-Jul-24 01:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Verdant is worse? [05-Jul-24 01:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: @ZionOrion - to put it this way, I set a temporary tax raise on Avalon for Pioneers and Settles at +15 their original value and I don't think the planet is even breaking even after that :p [05-Jul-24 01:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Though as they said, I guess the 'enrichment' mostly comes from some degree of fulfillment while managing the planet. Not so much for my pockets. [05-Jul-24 02:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: Dont like any of the options? vote me, ill keep the seat warm and watch from the sidelines :D [05-Jul-24 04:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: Not at all ashamed to admit that I've been hired in the past to serve as a Sinecure Governor to assist in remote planet development - doesn't require a base, just time. [05-Jul-24 04:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: Promitor, they're there, but I lack the interest, frankly. [05-Jul-24 04:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: Other than that, the only base where I am on parliament, where I don't have a base is OZ-189a - where I'm planning a base, and my client has a base....doesn't prevent me from contributing to the planet. [05-Jul-24 04:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: Why? I want to learn, I want to serve - sorry, am I being selfish.... [05-Jul-24 05:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: No that’s fine. I was really curious because I did remember seeing you running on quite a few planets I’m on, but that you didn’t have any bases on. [05-Jul-24 05:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: I’m sure you’d agree it’s reasonable to be worried when someone does that, especially when I really value having a stable governing body so we can all continue making money (or losses maybe) [05-Jul-24 05:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: What would you like to learn about governing? [05-Jul-24 05:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: My ultimate goal i the game is to develop a planet from scratch, .like so many of you old-timers have done....I fully understand that requires a great deal of personal commitment and infrastructure (as well as liquidity)....so while working toward those precursors, I'd like to learn the ins and outs of managing the popi infrastructure - that at this point is my least understood aspect. [05-Jul-24 05:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: I did initially join the list on several other planets where my clients have a presence, but soon realized I should at least initially limit myself so as to be able to give each office its due time andattention. [05-Jul-24 06:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: My thought on all of these was not to swoop in and take over, hence my dismay when lowstrife for example withdrew at Prism, rather to join the respective teams and learn from the best of the best in the field. [05-Jul-24 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: Just as the planets can grow well without good governors, the global community cannot grow without planting the seed of wisdom and knowledge in the next generation. [05-Jul-24 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: *can't [05-Jul-24 06:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: You could start by reading the POPI mechanics in the pct.fear.net website. I didn’t have anyone mentoring me when I started governing Boucher and just figured things out along the way by reading that and making my own clunky spreadsheets. [05-Jul-24 06:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Now there are tools like Archiel’s governor spreadsheet to make life easier so the learning curve isn’t so steep anymore. [05-Jul-24 07:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: And just to share, there was usually no cause to “dethrone” the incumbent governor if they have been doing a good job, so most of us who are governors started from the small and faraway planets before slowly working our way up if we’re lucky [05-Jul-24 07:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: (All of these in *old people voice*) 😉 [05-Jul-24 07:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: Understood, and as stated, dethroning has not been the intent, but with the advent of the new system, it allows for learning from inside the system; so why not jump in and get my feet wet? [05-Jul-24 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: Heck we only had the experience from last universe and they changed how some stuff worked when this one started... we had to reverse engineer it and then someone made a awesome google sheet that most people use now [05-Jul-24 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: regarding taxes: its a learn by doing thing [05-Jul-24 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Glad [05-Jul-24 07:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: adjust, see how much money comes in after 2 month, cause it takes a loooong time to adjust, then adjust again.... [05-Jul-24 07:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Gladi is one of the OG governors o7 [05-Jul-24 07:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: And tbh the new system is nice and all but it makes more work, cause now i got to make payment contracts to myself for feeding the planet... [05-Jul-24 07:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: I really wish they added a mechanic that pays people when they add to POPI and COGC [05-Jul-24 07:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: instead of having to do all this paperwork in the contract system... -_- [05-Jul-24 07:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: o/ [05-Jul-24 07:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: the new system is a little more transparent, and fairly easy to use. [05-Jul-24 07:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: its transparent, yes but puts more work on me [05-Jul-24 07:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: its not easy to use [05-Jul-24 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: well, easish* [05-Jul-24 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: my opinion, sorry, I've used it. [05-Jul-24 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: how often? once? [05-Jul-24 07:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: several times over the last week on two planets. [05-Jul-24 07:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: You have to make the payment motions e v e r y week [05-Jul-24 07:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: might as well remove repeating orders [05-Jul-24 07:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: repetition is what wears players out and makes em leave the game [05-Jul-24 07:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: the whole game is repetition.... [05-Jul-24 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: the less there is, the better, so you can focus on the meaningful repetition [05-Jul-24 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: makeing the same payment motion every x days is not meaningful [05-Jul-24 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: the feature is incomplete - again - sadly - look at CONTD - we are still waiting on "repeating contract" [05-Jul-24 07:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: I learned a long time ago, I am not most people - and I have an odd sense of fun....what many would call dreary meaningless repetition, I enjoy... [05-Jul-24 07:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: agreed repeating orders on ContD would be nice...I would use that frequently [05-Jul-24 07:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: lets see how you feel in 300 or 600 days [05-Jul-24 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: and on the topic of learning, dont need the new system to learn. just ask - lots of people willing to teach. UFO discord best place for it [05-Jul-24 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: But i also agree that the initial endorsment of Walrus kinda rubbed me the wrong way as it read like entitlement.... [05-Jul-24 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: On the logistics side of my operation, I clear over a 100 conts/week....admittedly, I have not been here long, no one's arguing that I'm new. [05-Jul-24 07:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: A bit different wording could have gone a long way of not sounding entitled [05-Jul-24 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: and with that enjoy my 5 cents for what they are worth [05-Jul-24 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: that I'm not new, sorry... [05-Jul-24 07:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: entitled, not so sure about that....just keeping busy, playing my game. [05-Jul-24 07:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: so much resistance from the old hands....makes one start to wonder... [05-Jul-24 07:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: the entitlement comment was not directed at you, read it again. its about walrus endorsement text. that you commented on as well and used the word "cronies" [05-Jul-24 07:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: if i remember right [05-Jul-24 07:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: sorry, missed that little blurb (was typing) [05-Jul-24 07:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: learning from inside the system alongside reading the textbook frankly is more fun, I'm a hybrid learner... [05-Jul-24 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: idk [05-Jul-24 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: I think it's reasonable to shill your preferred parliament [05-Jul-24 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: whats entitled to me are old governors that can't be bothered to campaign [05-Jul-24 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: ive seen that on way to many small planets [05-Jul-24 07:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: agreed - curious to know what about the way it was put made you feel like it was an entitled comment, Gladi [05-Jul-24 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: rereading it, maybe it sounds a bit like Walrus didn't consider the possibility of not being reelected? [05-Jul-24 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: it read to me like "they did x in the past, vote them in now" maybe something alongthe lines of "they did x in the past, it would be great/nice/awesome if you honor that with voting them in" [05-Jul-24 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: thats how i received it [05-Jul-24 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: gotcha [05-Jul-24 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: yea this governor stuff is getting annoying now [05-Jul-24 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: there was a KAWA post thats getting really easy to emphasize with [05-Jul-24 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: Proxion? [05-Jul-24 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: might have been related, but its in the discords [05-Jul-24 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: Lapsed you mean the discussion or the goverment system? [05-Jul-24 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: well its the government system --> discussion pipeline thats getting annoying [05-Jul-24 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: the crux is lots of OGs have been running planets pretty tight or at significant losses [05-Jul-24 08:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: and all of a sudden people have very strong opinions about minor things [05-Jul-24 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: ah well, you know the fun part? you get the discussions in 30 days again :D [05-Jul-24 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: if I were a governor paying for ~200 people I'd be steamin [05-Jul-24 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: maybe [05-Jul-24 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: we'll see [05-Jul-24 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: and then maybe one more time and then its back to normal :D [05-Jul-24 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: this is definitely as lively as it'll be [05-Jul-24 08:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: yea [05-Jul-24 08:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: I don't have bases in too many big planets, I have fun with a bit of the drama to be honest, but I can see it getting old the more often you see it [05-Jul-24 08:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: well at least we're not ANT [05-Jul-24 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: what's up with them? [05-Jul-24 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: you've got a couple bases up there, surprised you haven't seen it [05-Jul-24 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: Rise vs. OOG [05-Jul-24 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: some pretty desirable planets are having runoffs right now [05-Jul-24 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: maybe the ones I got are a bit more chill [05-Jul-24 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: only thing I find it funny is having so many planets close to the CX that are fertile and are not agri COGC [05-Jul-24 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: lol [05-Jul-24 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: they make more than RAT in ANT [05-Jul-24 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: Harmonia seems like it would be it contention [05-Jul-24 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: looks like its still got a few days until the election kicks off though [05-Jul-24 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: I think it's the last non full planet that still has agri [05-Jul-24 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: in ANT? [05-Jul-24 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: 100% [05-Jul-24 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: yeah [05-Jul-24 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: There are HYF shenanigans going on in that ice station system [05-Jul-24 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: but for regular players, yea [05-Jul-24 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: and I've seen close votes I think it was in Phobos, between agri and something else [05-Jul-24 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: ( : [05-Jul-24 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: Phobos WILL return to tradition [05-Jul-24 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: EDC farmers will be deported [05-Jul-24 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: I hope so, was planning to go there anyway [05-Jul-24 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Gladi099**: I somehow still hope to get a spot on deimos [05-Jul-24 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: its hopeless [05-Jul-24 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: but same [05-Jul-24 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: I mean, why take a fertile planet for that, aren't there any other rocky planets with no extreme conditions that you can use? [05-Jul-24 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: no for the deimos plot [05-Jul-24 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: oh its just a little trolling [05-Jul-24 08:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: no one actually wants Phobos to be agri except for a few native Phobians [05-Jul-24 08:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: I personally want it food industries [05-Jul-24 08:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: well, I might wanna focus on DW a bit more then [05-Jul-24 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: As promised - the temporary tax raise has been brought to an end. While I do think the current tax rate will need to be re-evaluted sometime, I'll let the next collective administration figure out a gameplan on that rather than just myself. [05-Jul-24 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: OUTRAGEOUS [05-Jul-24 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: how dare you lower taxes, we need money for when the new space elevator gets added [06-Jul-24 12:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***roadke** joined.* [06-Jul-24 02:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Lokkij**: Oh dear, I apparently overspent a little when resupplying and now don't even have the money for production fees lol [06-Jul-24 02:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Lokkij**: Anyone willing to loan me like 1k until I get to the CX again? [06-Jul-24 02:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: contract sent [06-Jul-24 02:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Lokkij**: Thank you!! [06-Jul-24 02:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: o7 [06-Jul-24 04:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Darth_Merkel**: Does anybody have 5 MCG in a dark corner of their warehouse by any chance? Willing to pay 1k for same-day delivery (see LM) [06-Jul-24 04:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **JoeRider85**: I do [06-Jul-24 04:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Darth_Merkel**: Thanks! [06-Jul-24 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userbec096d48c** left.* [06-Jul-24 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Prisma** joined.* [06-Jul-24 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: Gooodddddddd morning Avalon! [06-Jul-24 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: I just bought a summer home here. Nice place. Might stay a while. [06-Jul-24 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: welcome [06-Jul-24 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: howdy [06-Jul-24 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Welcome :] [06-Jul-24 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Welcome. [07-Jul-24 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere6201ad553** left.* [07-Jul-24 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Palono** joined.* [07-Jul-24 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: There's no way I just tried to pay myself with NCC from the government that only recieves ICA... [07-Jul-24 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Ummmm [07-Jul-24 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: I'm invoking the 25th amendment [07-Jul-24 09:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I swear I'm competent! [07-Jul-24 09:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: They shouldn't be putting ICA below the other mediocre currencies... [07-Jul-24 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: they should put the one the goverment mainly deals in on top [07-Jul-24 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: send me a contract ill give the government 100k NCC and CIS to work with [07-Jul-24 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: It's the same deal for Danakil. NCC is on the bottom. [07-Jul-24 10:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: They have it alphabetically :[ [08-Jul-24 08:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Ahhh [08-Jul-24 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **GeneralZ**: someone got 13 TRU or do I have to fly back to HRT? :D [08-Jul-24 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: got you ;) [08-Jul-24 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: anyone spare some AMM, ad up on LM [08-Jul-24 03:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: TY [09-Jul-24 05:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LonelyRats** joined.* [09-Jul-24 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gladds** joined.* [11-Jul-24 05:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3edbc0d5cd** left.* [11-Jul-24 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shorewahtevs** left.* [11-Jul-24 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***b9nk** left.* [13-Jul-24 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sphexzor** joined.* [13-Jul-24 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Well, the Avalon COMG is not only more diverse, but also is a friendlier place to be on! :) [13-Jul-24 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Unless a given planet's new politics will be affecting people adversely, most just don't care, since this is a single-player game. :P [13-Jul-24 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Organised_Chaos** joined.* [13-Jul-24 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **assjackets**: This is a single player game? Who's the player? Have I been an NPC this whole time? [13-Jul-24 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: he means it's possible to play the game without direct interaction with other players. [14-Jul-24 03:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Truisis2** joined.* [14-Jul-24 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: ^^ Yes. Many play like this. Trial users are forced into a single-player focus, since they only get to experience, rather indirect, and rather statistically determined player action on the CX. They can't contract/negotiate with other players. [14-Jul-24 01:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: It's sort of the same with BASICs, but they have almost the same limitations that trial users have, albeit with a few workarounds. [14-Jul-24 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***RayovacEveready** joined.* [15-Jul-24 03:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Belladonna**: i have a honest question I've been playing mmos for the past 15 years and the cost for pro is only like 8 bucks a month and yet i see a lot of people complain (the steam reviews especcially) why are so many people outraged at the price? its pretty low as far as mmos go? [15-Jul-24 03:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Belladonna**: im not saying anyone here is complaing just somthing ive noticed in general [15-Jul-24 03:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: the only response to that I've ever heard in here is that in some countries, 8 bucks is alot - key to remember this is a German game with an international audience [15-Jul-24 04:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mr.Meeseeks** joined.* [15-Jul-24 05:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I think people have a hangup about the price because it's a browser game. [15-Jul-24 05:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I agree with your assessment. It's a pretty reasonable price for an MMO. [15-Jul-24 05:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: cheaper than going to a movie and way more than two hours of entertainment [15-Jul-24 05:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I definitely see it that way. [15-Jul-24 05:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: It's cheaper than Runescape these days if we want to compare browser MMOs. [15-Jul-24 08:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***roadke** left.* [15-Jul-24 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheDanger** joined.* [16-Jul-24 06:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: you mean OSRS (Old-Skool Runescape)? [16-Jul-24 06:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: With the amount of content that they're dumped into that revitalised project, their subscription cost is well worth it XD [16-Jul-24 12:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ArcturusRex** left.* [16-Jul-24 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ryalai** left.* [16-Jul-24 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: It wasn't a dig at Runescape. [16-Jul-24 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Runescape was kind of a nostalgia thing for me, and I didn't check in on it frequently enough to prevent my account from being permabanned for gold farming when the password was compromised without my realization. [17-Jul-24 04:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***daft_user** joined.* [17-Jul-24 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***SkyKing74** joined.* [19-Jul-24 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: History started twenty minutes ago. [19-Jul-24 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: lol [19-Jul-24 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Nothing my enemy does is rooted in any context at all. [19-Jul-24 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: you have enemies? [19-Jul-24 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Myself, mainly. [19-Jul-24 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: And I think he's winning. [19-Jul-24 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: :( [19-Jul-24 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: enjoy your wine, gn [19-Jul-24 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I had beer tonight. [19-Jul-24 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Night, pal. Sleep tight. [19-Jul-24 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Esabab** left.* [19-Jul-24 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: I appreciate the positive feedback @Zugore [19-Jul-24 06:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user6b89e8bd72** left.* [20-Jul-24 01:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Some_Dude** joined.* [20-Jul-24 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***RedWolf_ShadowFlame** left.* [21-Jul-24 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere77e7ba735** left.* [21-Jul-24 09:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user19c8042ac0** left.* [21-Jul-24 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mysticizmo** joined.* [22-Jul-24 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Gingoman** joined.* [23-Jul-24 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MLGtas** joined.* [23-Jul-24 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheDanger** left.* [24-Jul-24 12:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***droctagonopus** joined.* [31-Jul-24 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***FunkyQuigs** joined.* [31-Jul-24 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BroccoliArtist** joined.* [31-Jul-24 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AntAndOnion** left.* [31-Jul-24 10:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user82fa32e43b** left.* [01-Aug-24 03:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***THEGOBBLER** joined.* [01-Aug-24 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zizo26** joined.* [01-Aug-24 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I will continue doing things the way I have if you vote for me - I hope you guys will support Andy97, Filefolders, --SCHAITR--, Tonatsi, and I. Obviously these are just endorsements - vote for who you like :] [01-Aug-24 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Vote for MysteriousWalrus's party list or face immediate banishment from the planet. [01-Aug-24 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: @MysteriousWalrus --- yeah, uhm, no? I'd recommend a vigorous discussion through the weekend, on several points, which I don't see addressed, via here or on UFO... [01-Aug-24 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I mean, uh, may the best man win. [01-Aug-24 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Were's your June/July '24 financing reports, of which a good segment of this years batch has been posted on this planet's UFO instance, last month... [01-Aug-24 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Where's your PPU points, for the commodities that you supply to our POPI needs? And your rationales for them? [01-Aug-24 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Wheres your overall statements regarding the health of the current POPRs, the inclusivity for newcomers, the overall strategic aim? [01-Aug-24 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: ** last month being June.... It's now August... [01-Aug-24 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I already said my plan - I'm trimming unemployment while trying my best to have TECs available. [01-Aug-24 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: *If* you want someone that'll make *everything* transparent, you are free to do so yourself. The politics update threw a wrench in my financial updates because of the updated system [01-Aug-24 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: <-- this ain't any disparagement from me. All I'm saying is that a few updates/notices, before an election cycle would be nice, for a change of pace. [01-Aug-24 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I don't see the point in giving pointless updates [01-Aug-24 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I only bring up the situation when it's something I think is worth bringing up [01-Aug-24 02:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: K. [01-Aug-24 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: do what you want with political updates, but If you don't start giving me some lore to enhance my immersion, I will not be pleased. [01-Aug-24 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: ^ ooh.... this is enticing. I'll drop some lore on UFO in a day or so. :P [01-Aug-24 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Like, a good couple of paragraphs, with some in-game hints of mechanics. [01-Aug-24 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: If you don't no one will [01-Aug-24 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: You have my full support [01-Aug-24 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Indeed. [01-Aug-24 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: but it's getting archived on #avalon-general, in UFO. [01-Aug-24 04:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: COMG just gets rolled over, like my youtube home page, on a daily basis. [01-Aug-24 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Lol [01-Aug-24 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I'm definitely here for lore posts. [02-Aug-24 07:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: @Filefolders your boy Desired just got a good batch of lore, straight from the press. I don't know where you will actually see it posted, though. [04-Aug-24 01:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: shipping ad up [04-Aug-24 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Nope. [04-Aug-24 08:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: Selling some cheap sulfur. [04-Aug-24 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***AmokSnurf** left.* [05-Aug-24 12:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: How cheap are we talking? [05-Aug-24 03:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: Not very. Just a smidge below CX. [05-Aug-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **LapsedNortonSubscription**: I will pay you to stop making sulfur here [05-Aug-24 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sacredband** left.* [05-Aug-24 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **neoshancullman**: lol [05-Aug-24 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: I will buy the sulfur from you if times every get tough just so that I can support a small business. Don't give up on y our dreams. Be the best sulfur farmer you can be. [05-Aug-24 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: <3 [05-Aug-24 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Don't try at whatever you can "be"; But to aim, at whatever you can see. [05-Aug-24 07:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Personal dreams are made here at VH-331g. [05-Aug-24 07:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Let it be that sweet succor, that perks you up, every night, that you do get up! (to at least log into PRUN) LOL [05-Aug-24 07:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tanottauro** joined.* [06-Aug-24 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7e601bbade** left.* [06-Aug-24 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nyannnism** joined.* [06-Aug-24 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera50249f85a** left.* [07-Aug-24 04:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Skahletto** deleted this message.* [07-Aug-24 04:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Skahletto**: if there is anyone who wants CAF.IC1 1,200.00 ICA▲ I make too much, instead of going to the CX I will sell my excess at Avalon for you to process [07-Aug-24 04:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: how much/how often/at what price? [07-Aug-24 04:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Skahletto**: if you would like me to be your personal supplier, just let message me [07-Aug-24 04:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Skahletto**: ill be posting for 1150 but if you want to make a wholesale deal with me then message me [07-Aug-24 04:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: got it, thx [07-Aug-24 04:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Skahletto**: 1200* A little below market [08-Aug-24 07:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Frentix** left.* [08-Aug-24 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZekTheMad** left.* [09-Aug-24 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dr_old** joined.* [10-Aug-24 11:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BroccoliArtist** left.* [11-Aug-24 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **ZionOrion**: You were selling CAF and now buying it? [12-Aug-24 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: Posted two over-paying and stupidly small shipping contracts in the LM [13-Aug-24 12:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I'll snatch em tomorrow if no one else does. 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[16-Aug-24 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Eat them and grow a beanstalk in your mind. [16-Aug-24 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Some_Dude**: Magic beans? 🤔 Is that what the kids call Flesh of the Gods these days? [17-Aug-24 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user13526564be** left.* [17-Aug-24 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user89976ad113** left.* [18-Aug-24 02:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Darth_Merkel**: looking for 20 MCG on the LM at 50 ICA/u [18-Aug-24 02:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: @Darth_Merkel did you mess up on base repairs? [18-Aug-24 02:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: I'm not seeing my own MCG provision --- must be a glitch. You should have it, as of now. Anyways.... Remember.... [18-Aug-24 02:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: It's always better to stock up of what you need, than be burdened with someone else's deed. :P [18-Aug-24 02:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: There's significant WAR storage available @ VH-331g, and you can inventory your regular base repair stuff in there. [18-Aug-24 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: I could tell you the mathematical realities of such thing, but you would have to commit to the #dark-side. [18-Aug-24 02:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LVBaQ0_NXw {Embed} Octo Beard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LVBaQ0_NXw MovieClips - Rise of Skywalker - Kylo Ren Meets Palpatine This movie is owned by Disney. https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/diNrwHXC_C_tYJdpJymT36Hhiq5bjyMZnoFE2tMxvfE/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/2LVBaQ0_NXw/maxresdefault.jpg [18-Aug-24 02:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: 'Tis ye be still, that of an appprentice; Unless ye do that, which is truly momentous. [18-Aug-24 02:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Good, you got the stuff. :P [18-Aug-24 02:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Darth_Merkel**: Nah i messed up calculating the resources for a few new buildings, thanks! ^^ [18-Aug-24 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: New buildings, are new buildings.... Full build cost + Planet environment is required. [18-Aug-24 02:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: There's other things beyond that, but you can ask in #apex-global chat, or on Discord, via UFO #help. 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If anyone is interested in joining a group project making various workforce consumables in and around HRT, drop me a DM either in-game or in discord (same username). Low stress, no interest loans are available for new people (this project is how I got my start in the game over a year ago) and profits are split weekly, paid out in the consumables the group produces (working out to a pretty consistent 50k/d profit per base). We're looking for bases on Prom, Avalon, and Boucher to fill in for some people who have since quit the game [28-Aug-24 07:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KrisWolfe** joined.* [29-Aug-24 10:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I got nothin to say on elections - I'll continue runnin the planet to the best of my ability next term if I win. o7 [29-Aug-24 11:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: I'm willing to contribute any resources necessary to make sure this planet keeps running in peak shape as it has. 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[11-Sep-24 05:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: congrats [11-Sep-24 07:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Welcome, My the bean be with you. [11-Sep-24 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **kvshman**: I'm happy to see the bean extends to Avalon. [11-Sep-24 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ravick**: Grats! [11-Sep-24 12:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Congratulations. Second base is a big step. 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Free next day delivery available :) [17-Sep-24 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Hulkster** left.* [17-Sep-24 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pieman6260** joined.* [17-Sep-24 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***crazyangelmp** joined.* [17-Sep-24 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***crazyangelmp** left.* [17-Sep-24 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Pomme_de_Terroriste** joined.* [17-Sep-24 09:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Skahletto**: Is anyone here a FIM producer and want to have a consisten buyer? [17-Sep-24 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Skahletto**: If interested, message me and we could strike up a deal (It will be a good one) [18-Sep-24 04:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I produce every type of foodstuff, so drop me a line and we can talk. Just getting back into the game, so still working up supplies. [18-Sep-24 09:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akwaena**: I messed up my water delivery and now I need water asap (check LM) [18-Sep-24 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PurpleOrange**: H2O.IC1 costs 45 on CX :( [18-Sep-24 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akwaena**: Oh, my bad, typo [18-Sep-24 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PurpleOrange**: I assume you are making DW? [18-Sep-24 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PurpleOrange**: I'd be happy to trade H2O for DW if you have a stockpile at avalon. [18-Sep-24 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Akwaena**: 701 DW in stock [18-Sep-24 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lowstrife**: I'd like to remind the government they should be running the 20% happiness program [18-Sep-24 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lowstrife**: you would be able to cut taxes in half if you run the program [18-Sep-24 10:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **lowstrife**: (consistently instead of 5% sometimes and 0% others) [18-Sep-24 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I replied on Sand and I'll reply here - I run programs according to the unemployment of the different tiers of population. It's not just as simple as 'running PF III then all the issues go away' - If you consistently run PF III, SETs grow too high, take away too much of the POPI from the other tiers and issues start to arise [18-Sep-24 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lowstrife**: you use it once a month to boost the population in conjunction with popi [18-Sep-24 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lowstrife**: and then fund popi minimally to keep happiness above 50% [18-Sep-24 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lowstrife**: or however often is necessary [18-Sep-24 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lowstrife**: I'd also recommend using FOD instead of DW [18-Sep-24 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lowstrife**: excuse me, using DW instead of FOD lol [18-Sep-24 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I make the FOD [18-Sep-24 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: :p [18-Sep-24 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lowstrife**: well we're paying $50,000\day to loose 1600, 2000 and 700 pop [18-Sep-24 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lowstrife**: or can pay $30,000\day running fest3 and OFF in the SST; to lose 500, +1500, -400 [18-Sep-24 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lowstrife**: would require a lot less money to be spend during growth phases [18-Sep-24 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lowstrife**: I agree it raises the cost of unemployed settlers [18-Sep-24 12:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **lowstrife**: but I think overall net it's much cheaper [20-Sep-24 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MaxKalina**: Hey guys! [20-Sep-24 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MaxKalina**: Posted and ad on Avalon LM for 100 DW for 100 ICA each [20-Sep-24 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MaxKalina**: Would appreciate if someone could fulfill it [20-Sep-24 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Gotcha. [20-Sep-24 11:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MaxKalina**: Thanks a lot! You saved my efficiency [20-Sep-24 11:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MaxKalina**: Misplanning happend^( [20-Sep-24 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Happens to us all, just glad to be able to turn it around quickly. [20-Sep-24 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MaxKalina**: Yeap, really appreciate this! [20-Sep-24 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: why TF would you try to sell 10K VEG? Do you really think we are all sitting here with an extra 11,000 free cargo space in our WH's? [20-Sep-24 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: I would never make that kind of assumption. [20-Sep-24 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: ah, but you did! [20-Sep-24 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: You *don't* have an extra 11,000 free cargo space? [20-Sep-24 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: does everyone not put down 7 STOs here? [20-Sep-24 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: nah, only 3 [20-Sep-24 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user393d09fc84** left.* [20-Sep-24 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I have 11.5 total, but it's mostly full with all kinds of things [20-Sep-24 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I don't need the VEG, I have plenty of my own, but for real, you should have broken that down at least into quarters, and that's probably too much for most people [20-Sep-24 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KyZekk** joined.* [21-Sep-24 12:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: Heya [21-Sep-24 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Hiya. [21-Sep-24 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Welcome to Avalon. [21-Sep-24 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Welcome! [21-Sep-24 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: thanks! [21-Sep-24 12:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: been a while since I was last here [21-Sep-24 12:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: (I do have to recommend you restart on Promitor, though, since it's full unless you start there.) [21-Sep-24 12:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: long enough that my last corp got deleted [21-Sep-24 12:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Glad you made your way back. [21-Sep-24 12:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: nah Ill stick here, this is where I started last time [21-Sep-24 12:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I see no one has any shipping up that's unfortunate [21-Sep-24 07:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: yeah, your name looks a little familiar from days gone by... [21-Sep-24 07:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: HRT/Avalon system shipping is heaviest on the weekends [21-Sep-24 07:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I don't do shipping for others, so no idea [21-Sep-24 07:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: I do...lots [21-Sep-24 07:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: 25 conts working in and around HRT atm [21-Sep-24 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I think there's more shipping TO Avalon than FROM [21-Sep-24 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: 'duh [21-Sep-24 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: true, in the current batch I've got 1 FROM to 4 TO [21-Sep-24 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Material compression is a thing, in Prun... [21-Sep-24 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: It's also a huge thing in Eve Online. [21-Sep-24 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I was saying because it may not be obvious to people starting out [21-Sep-24 01:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Compress the ores, ship to where ever, in serious quantity, and then refine and make... As compared to shipping regular ores. [21-Sep-24 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: It's evident, if people align themselves to COGC metrics... Extract ores here... ship to there... Refine metals there... [21-Sep-24 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: But there's only 2 ways people notice those relationships.... [21-Sep-24 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: 1) Their shipping is getting bogged down with I/Os, since they expanded too fast.... [21-Sep-24 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: 2) They pay very close attention to the Prunplanner I/O metrics, and do the maths. [21-Sep-24 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: <--- Learned the hard way... 1st base Promitor... 2nd base Phobos.. Shipping was split 50/50. Now I dedicate shipping, before I start something fresh. [21-Sep-24 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I have too many bases for being basic... can't use all my ships anymore :( [21-Sep-24 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eckala** joined.* [21-Sep-24 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Wel.. you are Basic @Talmar.... [21-Sep-24 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: you can always post some CX LM shipping conts [21-Sep-24 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: ... you can do that as a basic.... [21-Sep-24 06:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: yeah, I do, but some of my planets will never get the service, unless I pay more than the product it worth [22-Sep-24 01:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***zerrukurro14** joined.* [22-Sep-24 02:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: is it just because fuel costs are high to get to them Talmar? [22-Sep-24 02:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: @Talmar - you only have one base that's slightly remote (XG-452f), your others are either in CX systems or along major shipping routes. 10ncc per t/m3 is the standard 3-day shipping rate. You might think LB-599a is remote, but really it's not - it's midway between MOR and HRT, and there are those of us that do LM shipping routinely that make that trip on a regular basis. [22-Sep-24 04:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Eckala** left.* [22-Sep-24 04:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: good to know. When I was paying last, no one would touch that stopover [22-Sep-24 04:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: playing last [22-Sep-24 04:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: threw up a few ads on Hort CX, if you want a few... 3 full 500/500 ships worth, in 6 shipments [22-Sep-24 05:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: I don't have 500/500 ships anymore - that's one load (and a partial at that) [22-Sep-24 05:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: got 'em....delivery estimate: Tuesday-Wednesday [22-Sep-24 09:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Always nice to see activity in the shipping market. [22-Sep-24 09:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: I guess if you pay enough, someone will grab your contract! ;) [22-Sep-24 09:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: it gives me something to do [22-Sep-24 09:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: HRT shipping market is alive and well - busiest on the weekends....the more lucrative runs for this region are Boucher/Shardonia/OZ to HRT. [22-Sep-24 09:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: and the occasional cx to cx big-boy loads [22-Sep-24 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8fe4b4d245** left.* [22-Sep-24 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user4c1833408a** left.* [22-Sep-24 11:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***jcheung9941** joined.* [23-Sep-24 12:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I wonder if I should restart [23-Sep-24 12:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Why? [23-Sep-24 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: travel time to the station from here suck [23-Sep-24 12:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Ehhhh, unless you're thinking of farming on Prom it isn't gonna get a ton better. [23-Sep-24 12:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Early game is very, very slow regardless. [23-Sep-24 12:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yeaah [23-Sep-24 12:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: that why Im thinking of doing it now instead of later [23-Sep-24 12:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Couple days spent figuring out the basics before a COLIQ is hardly abnormal. I did the exact same thing, started on Avalon, realized it wasn't real viable for what I was trying, and then restarted on Prom. [23-Sep-24 01:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: oh Im a returning player, I stopped playing about two years ago and had to restart and forgot what the beginning was like. [23-Sep-24 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Oh, well, yeah. You've got a pretty good grip on what to look forward to then, I imagine. [23-Sep-24 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yeah [23-Sep-24 01:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I just forgot about the long transit times :( [23-Sep-24 01:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PurpleOrange**: Get a loan if you want to skip a bit of the slow start [23-Sep-24 01:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: oh, yeah [23-Sep-24 01:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: that wasnt a thing last I played but I saw it when I was playing around with the contract thing today. [23-Sep-24 01:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PurpleOrange**: I'd still consider starting on Promitor just so you can have a base there, since the planet is full and you can't have a base there unless you start there. Being able to farm close to the CX is good if you are going for a Victualler start [23-Sep-24 01:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: yeah [23-Sep-24 01:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I was thinking construction or manufacturing as the start [23-Sep-24 01:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PurpleOrange**: Montem in NC space is also overpopulated and a reasonably good planet for construction. [23-Sep-24 01:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: hmmm [23-Sep-24 01:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: hmm I guess I'll just stick it out. [23-Sep-24 02:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: Hortus system for food, or Moria for construction [23-Sep-24 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: wait, you think this transit time sucks? oh man... [23-Sep-24 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: yea.. I just settled Hortus J and H, it's a bit more painful getting out there [23-Sep-24 01:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: Wh... why would you settle those planets [23-Sep-24 01:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: They might just be the most worthless pieces of garbage in the game [23-Sep-24 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: i think my question is, why tf is j's cogc set to agri [23-Sep-24 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: that said they don't look that bad overall [23-Sep-24 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: only one red [23-Sep-24 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: little far out, but if you don't plan on doing sublight they don't look bad to me [23-Sep-24 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: for transit* [23-Sep-24 02:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: He's doing sublight. I can feel it. [23-Sep-24 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: No worthwhile resources, gonna make it a big HYF farm and process it all at -h, I guess? [23-Sep-24 03:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Might get annoying for the manual FTL jumps, but it doesn't seem totally terrible if Prom/Avalon permits are tied up on more lucrative things. [23-Sep-24 08:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: i'm jumping out and back, saves lots of fuel [23-Sep-24 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Thank goodness. [23-Sep-24 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nub56** left.* [24-Sep-24 03:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: Hydron is one of the best H planets in the game! H is a liquid there! [24-Sep-24 07:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: only 90% of my workers could put on pants this morning :/ [24-Sep-24 07:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Vention**: Got you covered (and more importantly your workers legs covered, I don't want to get flashed) [24-Sep-24 07:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Very much appreciated! [24-Sep-24 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Yeah, Hydron is a powerhouse. Hydrogen has been on the rise in a big way lately too. [24-Sep-24 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: I'm not into H yet, might need to drop a permit over there [24-Sep-24 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: I slightly regret tearing down my H2O bases [24-Sep-24 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Stay strong, brother [24-Sep-24 11:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***helios_space** joined.* [24-Sep-24 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Biogeneration** joined.* [25-Sep-24 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: @marchioro is feeling a bit like this, I suppose https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7FIiYsVy3U {Embed} burialgoods https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7FIiYsVy3U brother may I have some oats A humble tribute to Joe Capo. Voiced by me. Part 2: https://youtu.be/uFsElxims-s Music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9L9sNtv1-g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc1zwo5fGeQ https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/wVPBLmrQwrMByIiGLSrjJWcegGmvW227OR0kJH1r9XY/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/O7FIiYsVy3U/hqdefault.jpg [25-Sep-24 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: not sure I relate to any of them, but I had never watched that and boy was it amusing haha [25-Sep-24 09:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: meanwhile, over at Antares...... H2O.AI1 [25-Sep-24 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PurpleOrange**: o_O [25-Sep-24 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: I mean cmon guys, lol. [25-Sep-24 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: My memes hit harder, when you look around the room :P [25-Sep-24 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: that's a heck of an inflation curve [25-Sep-24 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: anyone able to help me out? apparently i shorted myself 60 mcg. anyone have? [25-Sep-24 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: LM order out [25-Sep-24 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Poor decisions.. are rather poor!?! [25-Sep-24 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: It delights me, to see that you are living up to your namesake @jcheung9931 [25-Sep-24 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: But, I do reps every 45 days... This yeilds 25% of full production building costs... plus a few spare things. [25-Sep-24 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: That's just a recommendation.. I haven't had issues since I started that sort of arrangement. [25-Sep-24 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: Look, i can't not screw things up [25-Sep-24 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***assjackets** left.* [25-Sep-24 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: My wife, my daughter, and my three girlfriends all tell me that... [25-Sep-24 04:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: I still don't care. [25-Sep-24 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: My dog doesn't mind [25-Sep-24 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: He's just along for the ride [25-Sep-24 05:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Arguably, he approves of my poor decision making [25-Sep-24 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: @DeniedClimax it is the role of the pet, to always approve of the actions of its master, be they detrimental, or beneficial to the dog... [25-Sep-24 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: The dog always remembers its role... to serve its master, for it is by design, that it is such. [26-Sep-24 01:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: A dog is unconditional love. We humans don't deserve them. [26-Sep-24 06:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: meow [26-Sep-24 06:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: cats ftw [26-Sep-24 08:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I like dog. [26-Sep-24 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: I love lamp [26-Sep-24 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrtVmwKY4k0 {Embed} Fuff Fuff Fuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrtVmwKY4k0 Baby Crow Up Close And Personal 😊 This cute bird video is from July 2024. Frankie the baby Crow lives outside now, I have so many videos to upload! This video is a typical morning with the baby bird, he is a lot of fun. You can see inside of of his beak is getting darker. Thank you for watching! #crow #crowlovers #crowfriends #crows #crowchild #babycrow #baby #beautiful #be... https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/wbuHjHmLbTqx_rpiIP0bnyzgOzPSBCXijZBhEHwIbE8/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/GrtVmwKY4k0/maxresdefault.jpg [26-Sep-24 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Birds! :V [26-Sep-24 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Very cool bird. [26-Sep-24 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I hatched a goose over the summer. Love birds. [26-Sep-24 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Lokkij**: Buying a few consumables on the LM above market price because I forgot them [26-Sep-24 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Noise331** joined.* [26-Sep-24 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: I'm selling Quality Meat Meals on the LM. 170 grand for 40. [26-Sep-24 08:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kaldi** left.* [26-Sep-24 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrFooderoni** joined.* [27-Sep-24 05:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rurik** joined.* [27-Sep-24 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***SFScorpio** left.* [27-Sep-24 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***anarkest** joined.* [28-Sep-24 07:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: ran outta rats lol. rookie mistake. [28-Sep-24 07:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: 81% got fed so like a 2 min penalty, but still. shame. [28-Sep-24 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: on an FP world no less....lol [28-Sep-24 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: right lol [28-Sep-24 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **janmady**: :D [28-Sep-24 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: yeah, we've all been there [28-Sep-24 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shilendim** joined.* [28-Sep-24 05:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **YuLun**: 3k t / 1k m³ to HRT [29-Sep-24 12:17 AM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: i might have to leave for another FP planet closer to boucher... [29-Sep-24 12:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: this is the only couple planets that i can handle myself with one ship... [29-Sep-24 12:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: cant handle* [29-Sep-24 12:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: why do you have only one ship? buy another [29-Sep-24 12:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: if someone wanted to buy FIM and DW here, what would they have to list at :eyes: [29-Sep-24 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrSamuelHayden** joined.* [29-Sep-24 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Plontz**: oh god with sam hayden here I hope we don't have any exploitable energy sources in our planets core [29-Sep-24 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Surely nothing will happen... [30-Sep-24 03:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Truisis2** left.* [30-Sep-24 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***WaterphobicGoldfish** left.* [01-Oct-24 01:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***challengerlion** joined.* [01-Oct-24 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***poatatata** joined.* [02-Oct-24 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Set to produce somewhere around 1500 FIM within the next week [02-Oct-24 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: yeah, I've been pumping it out as well [02-Oct-24 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: sure, but what would it cost :D [02-Oct-24 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: FIM average price is about 2000/u, so likely somewhere in the neighborhood of 3M. [02-Oct-24 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: CX is pretty good for it, for the time being [02-Oct-24 02:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***John_D_Rockefeller** joined.* [02-Oct-24 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usercb3993e64e** left.* [02-Oct-24 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: fim price is making me sad. it's climbed like 500 since i placed my base [02-Oct-24 11:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: everyone is angling to increase fim production so I think the increase is temporary. [02-Oct-24 11:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: 1500t/1600m heading to ANT in about 30 hrs if anyone is interested [02-Oct-24 11:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: especially you RAT producers :eyes: [03-Oct-24 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***helios_space** left.* [03-Oct-24 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Plontz**: posted COF in sets of 20 for just over CX price if anyone wants them [03-Oct-24 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: the temptation to put some 20 sets at CX price on the market is strong [03-Oct-24 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vention**: Curious the thought process of selling food products on a food processing world at above local CX ask [03-Oct-24 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vention**: I mean don't get me wrong I buy a crapload of food here on top of my own production, but at roughly CX bid price - any higher than that and I'd be better off buying at the CX [03-Oct-24 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Handy for folks who aren't producing that item and don't want to transport it. [03-Oct-24 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Saves both sides transport costs, really. [03-Oct-24 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: so then you admit you're saving on transport costs but still charging a premium? [03-Oct-24 07:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: just busting your chops - 650 is cheap - I produce and sell COF in MOR (and usually at 650 - which is way under market there) [03-Oct-24 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Plontz**: @pomme my exact thought process and @prisma that would be funny, wouldnt even be mad [03-Oct-24 09:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Vention**: Fair enough - my assumption would be that a food processing planet is one of the least likely places to find buyers of food products at price points like that - but if there are buyers then hell yeah! [03-Oct-24 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Plontz**: it is, but the price to put them on the LM isnt a lot and its less to put in the cargo to bring to the CX saving more room for rats [04-Oct-24 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: last call to ship stuff to ANT :eyes: [04-Oct-24 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: @Vention those assumptions usually do ring true. FI COGC? Likely little to no offers to provision raw mats. Shipping ads usually run along the same way. Lots in, less out. [04-Oct-24 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Although, you will usually get alot of purchase ads, for commodities of COGC significant, to be purchased on the cheap, by opportunists. [04-Oct-24 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: To the uninitiated TRIAL/BASIC user... any PRO can just spot check those LM ppus with a CXM buffer. [04-Oct-24 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: "Your offers are a bit stingy bro.... Ima just hold on to my products, and get someone to ship them for me, on the cheap, from VH-331g ---> HRT, and avoid giving you my margins! >:O " [05-Oct-24 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chibuike-Kelechi** joined.* [05-Oct-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Another rigged election :] [05-Oct-24 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Like 242 occupied plots, and only 37 overall election votes?!? Of course it's rigged! [05-Oct-24 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I don't know about that. [05-Oct-24 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: 242 occupied plots and 300 votes is how we could be sure. [05-Oct-24 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Roh** deleted this message.* [05-Oct-24 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: mmm, no... You can be sure, by achieving #420 active plots, and covering the entire planet, with the mystic, and venerable haze, that smoking the HER.IC1 confers. [05-Oct-24 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Oh. [05-Oct-24 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Yas. [05-Oct-24 09:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: The devs have specially conferred the stats in Prun, so that I may thoroughly have my fun. :P [06-Oct-24 02:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Noise331** left.* [06-Oct-24 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: I cook my HER.IC1 into FIM.IC1 brownies [06-Oct-24 03:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc6caad3327** left.* [07-Oct-24 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***eli.alert798** joined.* [07-Oct-24 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user639c10a32c** left.* [07-Oct-24 08:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: I can't resist getting back into FIM at these prices [07-Oct-24 08:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: I'm probably dropping DW production for the time being and shifting back into FIM [07-Oct-24 08:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: It's a heck of a time to be alive [07-Oct-24 08:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: It's a damn good time to be in food production [07-Oct-24 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: everyone must eat [08-Oct-24 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***anarkest** left.* [08-Oct-24 07:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: LM ad up for 10 BDE @ 4000/u. Please take it only if you can deliver immediately. [08-Oct-24 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **YuLun**: I have a 3k/1k ship about to head off towards HRT [08-Oct-24 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **YuLun**: well maybe could divert to promitor [08-Oct-24 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Does anyone else already have the BDEs already on planet? I need 10 [08-Oct-24 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: I have 4 [08-Oct-24 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Ad up. [08-Oct-24 05:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Ive also put up another one for the 6 I need. Please only take it if you can deliver IMMEDIATELY. [08-Oct-24 05:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: ah damn. I just realised I had sent those to hrt on my ship :( [08-Oct-24 05:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: sorry :( [08-Oct-24 07:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Huh, there was no contracts when I checked earlier. [08-Oct-24 07:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Someone took it but didnt have the BDEs ready [08-Oct-24 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: You still need them? [08-Oct-24 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **-butterfly-**: @-SCHAITR-, I have sent sell [08-Oct-24 09:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lucast501501** joined.* [08-Oct-24 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **-butterfly-**: Hm, I go back to sleep [08-Oct-24 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Nah I've sent my ship streaking through the VH-331 sun to deliver them myself 😬 [09-Oct-24 02:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd3178ea4d3** left.* [09-Oct-24 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **YuLun**: I saw your message but I didn't find the contract at LM so I thought someone already got it [09-Oct-24 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **YuLun**: I always have ~20 here [09-Oct-24 12:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: need shorter contract deadline options [09-Oct-24 02:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userebbdd48b8f** left.* [09-Oct-24 03:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **YuLun**: "buying 10 BSE for delivery in 100ms" [10-Oct-24 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user40a3855f56** left.* [10-Oct-24 11:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkantez**: 100ms isn't enough time to move the mouse cursor [10-Oct-24 11:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: and you're 2 days late , and still a dollar short [10-Oct-24 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Without a paddle [11-Oct-24 01:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Skill issue. [14-Oct-24 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jay_Gould** joined.* [14-Oct-24 11:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lysine** joined.* [15-Oct-24 02:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aces** joined.* [15-Oct-24 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user32154c6c61** left.* [16-Oct-24 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user89bcd8e083** left.* [18-Oct-24 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YuLun**: 500/500 leaving Avalon in ~4h, to Promitor or HRT [18-Oct-24 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: anyone have some rat I can buy? [18-Oct-24 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **YuLun**: how many [18-Oct-24 03:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: like 15 I only need enough for a day for my ship to get here from hrt [18-Oct-24 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **YuLun**: yea we could do that, I have plenty [18-Oct-24 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: Sweet [18-Oct-24 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: Ad is up [18-Oct-24 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **KyZekk**: Thank you [18-Oct-24 03:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **YuLun**: np ;) [18-Oct-24 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user04b9341ffa** left.* [19-Oct-24 07:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***sans-** left.* [19-Oct-24 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user64b7c635a4** left.* [19-Oct-24 02:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: there's always food on this planet. Just throw up an ad and someone will grab it, unless you are really lowballing [20-Oct-24 12:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***OG451** joined.* [20-Oct-24 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrSmith33** joined.* [20-Oct-24 04:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Azidano** left.* [20-Oct-24 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: ad from MOR at MOR cx if anyone happens to be over there [20-Oct-24 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: can do ICA instead if preferred [21-Oct-24 05:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Xleb** joined.* [23-Oct-24 01:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***pinkmage234** joined.* [23-Oct-24 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pinkmage234**: I have upgraded from simple bean farmer to bean processor [23-Oct-24 01:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: I like to think we use the beans to make milkshakes [23-Oct-24 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **pinkmage234**: Im confident the HER i put in my processed beans are mildly hallucinogenic and thats why they cost so much [23-Oct-24 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: Wouldn't be suprised [23-Oct-24 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: Be better if they were MUS [24-Oct-24 04:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: bean milkshake just sounds nasty [24-Oct-24 04:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: not if they're vanilla beans [24-Oct-24 04:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: they are Not [24-Oct-24 07:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: What about adzuki beans? [24-Oct-24 09:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: cocoa bean? [24-Oct-24 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: COF bean? [24-Oct-24 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: err wait its CAF bean [24-Oct-24 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: whoopsies [24-Oct-24 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Stop killing baby plants.... [24-Oct-24 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Wait... Per dev structures, we will always be killing baby plants? [24-Oct-24 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: My bad. [25-Oct-24 12:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Circle_of_Life** left.* [25-Oct-24 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user35f7774b3d** left.* [27-Oct-24 03:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***KyZekk** left.* [27-Oct-24 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera617a8bc12** left.* [28-Oct-24 12:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user8b894b1e55** left.* [28-Oct-24 02:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Allmaker** joined.* [28-Oct-24 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***HushPup** left.* [28-Oct-24 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Allmaker**: как повторно добыть ресурсы [28-Oct-24 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: english please [28-Oct-24 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Allmaker**: начинаю разбираться [28-Oct-24 11:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YuLun**: imo devs should start consider moderation for other languages as we now have other languages avaliable [28-Oct-24 11:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **YuLun**: or implment built-in google translate :p [28-Oct-24 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: google translate is pretty horrible [28-Oct-24 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Allmaker**: а для сравнения сколько ресурсов в eve ponline [28-Oct-24 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Allmaker**: ? [28-Oct-24 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: is my man dissing our game in russian [28-Oct-24 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: His older message is "I'm starting to figure it out" [29-Oct-24 05:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: Eve's market is pretty insane, if you dive into it. If this is checkers, Eve is 3D-Chess on steriods [29-Oct-24 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Allmaker**: летопись галактики начинается [29-Oct-24 05:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Talmar**: Allmaker, do you know any English? I don't speak or read Russian [29-Oct-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: "The chronicle of the galaxy begins" [29-Oct-24 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: That's deep [29-Oct-24 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: глубокий [29-Oct-24 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: maybe [29-Oct-24 07:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Moriori** joined.* [30-Oct-24 03:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 **janmady**: Some folks here have hinted for more relaxing uses for HER. Smoke too hard for throat? Need to entertain guests? Get yourself a proper bong - now in local market! Glass was blown in Berthier, combustion chamber added in Adalina. High quality specialty handicraft. Limited quantity. [30-Oct-24 09:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: +1 [30-Oct-24 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Good heavens. [31-Oct-24 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: It looks like a vase. [31-Oct-24 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: FIM buy order up at 2k/u (under all the RATs) [01-Nov-24 02:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: Posted some cheap RAT feedstock contracts on the LM, if anyone wants some extra stuff to process. [01-Nov-24 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***droctagonopus** left.* [01-Nov-24 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MrSmith33**: Can someone take 1k MCG from me please? I need some storage space. Posted on LM [01-Nov-24 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: Holding onto it. Do you want it back later? [01-Nov-24 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MrSmith33**: Thanks, you can keep it. I'm demolishing my base [01-Nov-24 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: Oh, Damm, alright. [01-Nov-24 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MrSmith33**: Got my lifetime supply of MAG. See ya [01-Nov-24 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***MrSmith33** left.* [01-Nov-24 03:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Dang. [01-Nov-24 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: ... so who wants some MCG [01-Nov-24 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I mean, I wouldn't turn it down. [01-Nov-24 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: 100,000 per unit. [01-Nov-24 04:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: No refunds. [01-Nov-24 04:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I might have to pass on this one for now. [01-Nov-24 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I have unlimited MCG. [01-Nov-24 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: tbh I got 1k for a single ICA, I'm more than willing to also give it away to someone who wants it. [01-Nov-24 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: Jokes aside [01-Nov-24 06:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: actually yeah I'm just gonna put up some LM ads [01-Nov-24 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: If you haven't sold it yet - I'd buy it at market price just 'cause. [01-Nov-24 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: I sold it all, sorry. [02-Nov-24 12:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: Anyone need something shipped back to Prom? [02-Nov-24 12:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rento247** left.* [02-Nov-24 09:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: @Prisma no worries lmao [02-Nov-24 10:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkantez**: put up a shipment of 500m3 on HRT station if there's anyone coming back to ava with empty cargo [02-Nov-24 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: im sorry to say but my time here is limited [02-Nov-24 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: your time on Avalon, or in PrUn? [02-Nov-24 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: on avalon, i have found better planets [02-Nov-24 03:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **masonwater**: i feel shamefull for leaving the birthplace of the citrus union, but i must follow my heart towards greater DW pastures [02-Nov-24 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***thabichi** joined.* [02-Nov-24 04:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: Traitor. [02-Nov-24 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Boooooo! [03-Nov-24 07:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: if there's any FIM producers out there, looking for some FIM [03-Nov-24 07:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: LMA VH-331g/13859 [03-Nov-24 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: How much do you need? [03-Nov-24 01:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: oh nvm I see your listings [03-Nov-24 03:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: Posted a listing for selling some Caffeinated Beans. [03-Nov-24 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: mine specifically is 1k for 2k/u [04-Nov-24 02:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkantez**: put up an ad on HRT LM for 500m3 cargo for anyone with an empty ship going back to ava [04-Nov-24 03:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thabichi**: anyone needs cargo to HRT? I have 400 free [04-Nov-24 04:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thabichi**: also from HRT to avalon same space [04-Nov-24 04:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkantez**: i've got 300 from HRT to avalon [04-Nov-24 04:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkantez**: gonna post ad now [04-Nov-24 04:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkantez**: ads are up at HRT [04-Nov-24 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ranvids** left.* [05-Nov-24 10:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Prisma** deleted this message.* [05-Nov-24 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: Updated a CAF listing to be a bit more favorable. [05-Nov-24 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: 1200 a unit. [06-Nov-24 02:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BigJohnnytrader** joined.* [09-Nov-24 12:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkantez**: posted 3 shipping ads (500m3 in total) if there's any ship going from HRT to avalon, thx [09-Nov-24 12:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkantez**: on HRT LM [09-Nov-24 04:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Malski** joined.* [09-Nov-24 04:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Mortos** left.* [09-Nov-24 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: hey all. just upgraded the warehouse. we can all rent 7 units now. [09-Nov-24 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: if the government feels like I could get some return, I'd appreciate it, if not that's fine as well. [09-Nov-24 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: @machioro, what's your total cost of construction? [09-Nov-24 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: I brought it up in govchat for discussion. [09-Nov-24 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: I'm sure that GOV here can trickle in some rebates for you, if you give basic numbers, [09-Nov-24 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Yeah, that'd be appreciated. [09-Nov-24 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: if you haven't dropped gov stuff anywhere else, it's a simple figure in your FIN sheet, unless you've kept your own reciepts, which you need only add up. [09-Nov-24 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: I don't think I donated anywhere else recently [09-Nov-24 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: where exactly would I see it on FIN? [09-Nov-24 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: FINIS ---> Planetary Project Contributions [09-Nov-24 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: oh, I see it [09-Nov-24 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: That's the general expense category, for any POPI/PPS upkeep/upgrade materials donates [09-Nov-24 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: it says 1,729,655 [09-Nov-24 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: for? [09-Nov-24 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: remind me [09-Nov-24 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: warehouse. 100% from level 12 to 13, and a good chunk from 11 to 12. [09-Nov-24 04:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: in total, 240 TRU, 288 BDE and BBH, 74 BSE an 3300 MCG [09-Nov-24 04:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: ... I'll concur.... not that I'm partial, but my non-FIO integrated sheet says 1,894,000 ICA for the sum of WAR upgrades from 11 --> 13. [09-Nov-24 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: So it should be up to Avalon GOV, if they want to give rebates to you... I'd just keep a receipt of that expense, for the long term.... [09-Nov-24 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Based on current fees.... [09-Nov-24 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: if I take current sell values from the CX, it's 108k + 673.9k + 731.5k + 122k + 115.1k [09-Nov-24 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: oh, cool, you did the math alright [09-Nov-24 04:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: aside from the BSE that I had laying around on my wh, everything else I purchased recently [09-Nov-24 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Yeah I did, for custom private stuff with my friendies.... Your noted expense of 1,729,655 ICA should be considered, under the given figure of 372 warehouse units, rented @ 100 ICA per week, at 37,200 ICA GOV warehousing fees per week, at an amortization of 47 weeks in total.. Less if they want to pay you more for it. [09-Nov-24 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: That's at 0% interest btw. [09-Nov-24 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Out of curiosity, why'd you opt to upgrade it solo? [09-Nov-24 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: yes, this is a good question ^ [09-Nov-24 04:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: ... they're on Avalon? LOL [09-Nov-24 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: just did the whole math here, got to roughly 1.75M for the quantities I mentioned. The BSE must have been bought for cheaper back then. Or maybe some stuff I had gotten from faction contracts as well. [09-Nov-24 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: mmmm, no. [09-Nov-24 04:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: well, storage is never too much, is it? [09-Nov-24 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: I asked for receipts, not maths... Current FIO/APEX figures for ASK rate purchases should never figure into GOV contributions. [09-Nov-24 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Bit of a question of cost vs. benefit at some point. [09-Nov-24 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: I had upgraded other warehouses in other bases where the government paid some cash back, I'm just curious if that practice would take place here as well [09-Nov-24 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: I'm not demmanding anything [09-Nov-24 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: I can't promise it unilaterally, but I've brought it up in the government chat and I would like to think that some degree of compensation is likely. [09-Nov-24 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: cool, thanks for letting me know [09-Nov-24 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: I think that if everyone contributed, everyone would have the equivalent to a STO, without having to give up precious are that could have more FIMs [09-Nov-24 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: area* [09-Nov-24 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Might be something to budget for in the long term. [09-Nov-24 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: You've got my amortization numbers for it.... [09-Nov-24 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: 47 weeks is almost a year, btw. [09-Nov-24 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Yeah, long time to recoup it in rental fees. [09-Nov-24 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Mind you, the contributor will suffer from long-term inflation rates. [09-Nov-24 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: I'm confused - are you talking about it from a government perspective? [09-Nov-24 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: yes... I am. [09-Nov-24 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: ok, that makes sense then. [09-Nov-24 04:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Its how I amortize Pallada's unnecessary "upgrades"... Long term debt, at 0% interest, and at 0% inflationary adjustments. [09-Nov-24 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: pure figures, with pure payouts. [09-Nov-24 04:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Government isn't really a business though, so at some point it becomes not so much a question of time to pay off, but rather the value of WH space vs. lower taxes. [09-Nov-24 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: At any rate, Marchioro, I'll try to keep tabs on it and let you know how it pans out. [09-Nov-24 05:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Well... kinda? Avalon's on-track to start engaging in UNI construction.... [09-Nov-24 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: I hate to mention it, but your TEC POPRs are out of scale --- too many TECs... and people are starting to maintain ENG BUIs... [09-Nov-24 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: These things, are of course, a GOV concern on Avalon. [09-Nov-24 05:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: You have the powa'h, to say yes, or no, to such macro-economic developments. [09-Nov-24 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Anyways, it was a good chat @machioro and @Pomme. :P [09-Nov-24 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Thanks. And yeah, I dunno how much of that is driven by IVPs. [09-Nov-24 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Only 10.5% unemployment, so I'm guessing quite a few. [09-Nov-24 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: would you like to send a g-sheet to me? [09-Nov-24 05:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: it will involve a LOT of clicking for you.... [09-Nov-24 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Maybe another time. I'm a junior parliament member, so probably less effort overall to simply question Walrus about things. [09-Nov-24 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Appreciate the offer though. [09-Nov-24 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **marchioro**: yep, thank you both for the talk. appreciate your input. [09-Nov-24 05:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: well, find someone who can... 500k ICA for the effort of compiling a spreadsheet, involving PPI entries of Name; Operator; Founded: Developed Area; and Primary Industry........ Example: [ PPI f56b4482 ]. [09-Nov-24 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Wow, I hit @IHateAnime, by chance! Lolz [09-Nov-24 05:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Oh, looking for a report on all the plots? [09-Nov-24 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Yes. [09-Nov-24 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: It benefits [09-Nov-24 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: .... [09-Nov-24 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Little strange that that's not able to be pulled out of FIO [09-Nov-24 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Curious, how're you utilizing that? [09-Nov-24 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Avalon, since you get your numbers for taxes and whatnot.. And I can also plug that info in to a larger stats distribution. [09-Nov-24 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: You can't pull it via FIO... No endpoints for it... [09-Nov-24 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: That's a bit irritating. [09-Nov-24 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Ah well, maybe if I get exceptionally bored at work sometime. [09-Nov-24 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: I know maths? I can structure a custom stats distribution. :P [09-Nov-24 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: The real annoying part is that it isn't simply a one-time effort. [09-Nov-24 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Yeah, I just need a bored person, with a good 1-3 hours of time, on a very decent computer to pull this off, since yeah, no dev + FIO support for this. [09-Nov-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Wait, do PPI names change with new owners, or are they static per plot? [09-Nov-24 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: New owners for public plots.... Past the hash/hex valuations beyond planetary permit limits, is the discrete cutoff for ghost-plot naming.... [09-Nov-24 05:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Hence for Avalon, the first #420 who keep their plots long-term, basically derive any stats that can be wrung by hand atm.. Once we get dev + FIO support, it may be a game changer regarding tax brackets, but I think most are just doing guestimates for everything. [10-Nov-24 05:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Malski** left.* [11-Nov-24 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MaxKalina**: Hey guys! Could anyone sell me 20 OVE for 140 per unit? Need it urgently [11-Nov-24 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **pinormous**: Got you covered Max [11-Nov-24 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MaxKalina**: @pinormous thanks a lot! Appreciate your help! [11-Nov-24 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: @Roh I don't think this is an unreasonable amount of TEC unemployment by any means if that's what you're referring to [11-Nov-24 10:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: I also don't see the necessity in building a UNI on a food planet. Or growing ENG pops... [11-Nov-24 10:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: A University on...Avalon? [12-Nov-24 09:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: A bit of an update for everyone on government business: @marchioro was reimbursed about half of the estimated value of materials spent on the upgrade mentioned earlier in chat. The logic behind this was that there's a point of diminishing returns on the upgrades as a value proposition. To set expectations for everyone going forward, the best policy is to inquire before doing any sort of POPI/upgrade spending and hash out terms in advance. [12-Nov-24 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Having said that, I'd personally like to extend my thanks for the general civic benefit attitude espoused by marchioro, since it was done explicitly without the expectation of repayment. [12-Nov-24 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Ohh wait, I commented on this?!? [12-Nov-24 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Reimbursements are fleeting... Upgrades are forever. :3 [12-Nov-24 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***YASHRIN** joined.* [13-Nov-24 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***turnburgler** joined.* [15-Nov-24 11:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Stardragon** joined.* [16-Nov-24 05:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: 500 fim buy up 2100/u [16-Nov-24 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***exphexis** joined.* [16-Nov-24 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **exphexis**: 0/ [16-Nov-24 04:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: o/ [17-Nov-24 12:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Welcome to the party, friend. 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[17-Nov-24 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Plontz**: ah i see [17-Nov-24 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Plontz**: i way overpriced but to be fair im not gonna miss the cash too much so [17-Nov-24 05:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Plontz**: o well [18-Nov-24 12:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***masonwater** deleted this message.* [18-Nov-24 09:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TheDayofReckoning** joined.* [18-Nov-24 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CatBro** joined.* [19-Nov-24 01:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CatBro** left.* [19-Nov-24 03:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nalini** left.* [19-Nov-24 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***xbytedagod** joined.* [19-Nov-24 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nubbynubbow** joined.* [20-Nov-24 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Middors** joined.* [20-Nov-24 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Middors** left.* [21-Nov-24 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TCOR3987** joined.* [21-Nov-24 06:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***TCOR3987** left.* [21-Nov-24 08:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user969907f814** left.* [21-Nov-24 10:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user7bc00e57c5** left.* [21-Nov-24 10:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userea40f2fc18** left.* [22-Nov-24 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***lguth3728** left.* [23-Nov-24 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userabf9946a14** left.* [24-Nov-24 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Atomiccow** left.* [25-Nov-24 04:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Bona** joined.* [25-Nov-24 04:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user83e6e3a37b** left.* [28-Nov-24 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***harveyG** deleted this message.* [28-Nov-24 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **harveyG**: posted some Buy ads for OVE way over market price :) [28-Nov-24 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***xbytedagod** left.* [28-Nov-24 04:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: guessing somebody hooked you up already [28-Nov-24 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Looked that way when I checked. 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[30-Nov-24 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: hortus station [30-Nov-24 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkantez**: or local market, or moria station [01-Dec-24 09:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ashfitzwater06** joined.* [02-Dec-24 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user2864c8ff38** left.* [02-Dec-24 07:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Vention** deleted this message.* [02-Dec-24 11:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userb6707b0da1** left.* [03-Dec-24 01:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Picatostes** joined.* [05-Dec-24 12:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Stonk** joined.* [05-Dec-24 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ined** left.* [05-Dec-24 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***harry26548** joined.* [05-Dec-24 01:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Stonk**: Looking to buy some h2o and DW, ads are up on LM [06-Dec-24 05:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thabichi**: do people use the PG recipe for DW here? [06-Dec-24 05:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: it is more efficient, most likely do (I do) [06-Dec-24 06:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **thabichi**: Yes, I think I'll switch [06-Dec-24 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: I do [06-Dec-24 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Stonk**: More efficient, but les profit/day. If you dont have supply issues on h2o, there is no need to use PG [06-Dec-24 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Ainyru** left.* [06-Dec-24 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: Though I do sell some DW, most of my production goes into COF (or workforce consumption), and with FRM and HYF operations active, water conservation is a good thing. [07-Dec-24 03:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Stonk**: Zugore, do you have excess CAF production? [07-Dec-24 04:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: not as yet....just have the one hyf base operating at the moment [07-Dec-24 05:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Generald** joined.* [07-Dec-24 06:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***AshMKIV** joined.* [07-Dec-24 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Generald**: Hello [07-Dec-24 08:55 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***alphadecracks** joined.* [07-Dec-24 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **alphadecracks**: cerre una ventana [07-Dec-24 09:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **alphadecracks**: como hago pra reactivarla? [07-Dec-24 09:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **harry26548**: what [07-Dec-24 09:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: yeah, I'm not multi-lingual either [07-Dec-24 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **alphadecracks**: i I closed a window, how do I reactivate it? [07-Dec-24 09:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: open a new buffer and type the same command for it [07-Dec-24 09:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: if you know what you closed we may be able to help [07-Dec-24 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **alphadecracks**: thanks [07-Dec-24 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Stonk**: Anyone can sell me some h2o and caf on site? 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[09-Dec-24 02:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Are there actually folks running SMEs here? [09-Dec-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Wouldn't surprise me if a few were running, not enough to justify Metallurgy ad [09-Dec-24 07:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Sick! You people are sick! [09-Dec-24 09:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: i mean, i got bmps, INCs, WPLs, and FERs on this planet along with my 25 FP. [09-Dec-24 09:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: but why SME? [09-Dec-24 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: even a resioource extract would be more viable [09-Dec-24 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **worvand**: ya for inc to burn prom products [10-Dec-24 02:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Stonk**: Going HRT in 1 hour. 224t/ 261 m3 available [10-Dec-24 11:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userc785bc3fdc** left.* [10-Dec-24 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***CoinCrafter23** joined.* [10-Dec-24 06:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: Helloo world! [10-Dec-24 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Hey, welcome! [10-Dec-24 06:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: oh, hello again! [10-Dec-24 09:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: whale-come [10-Dec-24 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Howdy [11-Dec-24 11:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userda12f24d97** left.* [11-Dec-24 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***tryt2010** joined.* [12-Dec-24 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: few ads from hrt [12-Dec-24 02:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **copy2**: 350 ICA doesn't even pay for the fuel [12-Dec-24 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: unless you're using an LCB, but then jut barely [12-Dec-24 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Didn't put too much thought into it, and didn't mean them disrespectfully I have my 4 wcbs otw and threw them up IF anyone was on the way with some space. [13-Dec-24 02:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera399ac5ce3** left.* [13-Dec-24 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Thurio** joined.* [13-Dec-24 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: Buying a bunch of COF and PWO if anyone is interested [13-Dec-24 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: on the LM [14-Dec-24 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: Still need 60 COF if anyone has extra [14-Dec-24 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: Ad on LM [14-Dec-24 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: gotcha [14-Dec-24 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: Awesome as always! [15-Dec-24 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: Hey, anyone on planet willing to be my dedicated consumables supplier? [15-Dec-24 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: would pay a few percents above market, and no shipping needed [15-Dec-24 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Eh? [15-Dec-24 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: You interested @pomme? [15-Dec-24 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Depends on what exactly it entails. [15-Dec-24 11:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: What consumables are you looking to source? I assume it's not literally everything for your base if you're doing all the shipping, unless you're stipulating collection at HRT or something. [15-Dec-24 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: No, just RAT, DW, and [15-Dec-24 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: OVE [15-Dec-24 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: on Avalon [15-Dec-24 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: What kind of quantities? [15-Dec-24 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: I should have a sublight WCB shuttle coming online in the system sometime in the next couple weeks and I excess production of DW/RATs for a bit, but depending on how much we're talking it likely wouldn't be hard for me to purchase off of HRT and squeeze it in alongside my stuff going to Avalon for processing. [15-Dec-24 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: I see what you mean [15-Dec-24 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: not much, for DW and RAT about 46 per day [15-Dec-24 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: are you looking to collect that daily, weekly, or monthly? [15-Dec-24 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: 46/d or 322/w or 1380/m? [15-Dec-24 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: daily conts are tedious and leave you open to mishaps should a day or two get missed - not recommended [15-Dec-24 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: (of course you should keep a buffer on hand to avoid production stoppages) [15-Dec-24 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: so you're about 6/d ove? [15-Dec-24 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: yep [15-Dec-24 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: ish [15-Dec-24 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: 5.8 [15-Dec-24 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: would prefer a monthly shedule, after this week [15-Dec-24 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***N30P0LIT4N** joined.* [15-Dec-24 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Jazmar** joined.* [16-Dec-24 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***GodMagician** left.* [16-Dec-24 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkantez**: is there anyone who could possibly sell me 500 DW? ad on AVA LM [16-Dec-24 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Arkantez**: very urgent, thx [18-Dec-24 07:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Palono** left.* [21-Dec-24 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userf7499c6bdb** left.* [22-Dec-24 02:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Maces** left.* [24-Dec-24 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hectorino**: praise beanz [24-Dec-24 12:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zistil** joined.* [25-Dec-24 04:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: Merry Christmas Avalon! [25-Dec-24 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: happy holidays to all [25-Dec-24 08:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: Happy holidays!! [25-Dec-24 08:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Merry Christmas! [25-Dec-24 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Merry Christmas! [25-Dec-24 11:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Hectorino**: Merry Christmas! [25-Dec-24 09:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Prisma**: 07 [26-Dec-24 04:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usera240d3907b** left.* [28-Dec-24 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Tobi1345** joined.* [01-Jan-25 05:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user56cafd8738** left.* [02-Jan-25 05:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***nael_fr** joined.* [02-Jan-25 06:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nael_fr**: Hi, I'm new, I just made my second base on Avalon [02-Jan-25 06:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: big step, congrats - welcome to Avalon! [02-Jan-25 06:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: This is a natural expansion from Promitor so good choice there [02-Jan-25 06:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nael_fr**: But I'm dumb, I brought what was necessary for making multiple FP, the necessary HB and a lot of H2O [02-Jan-25 06:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: need the CM mats and workforce provisions [02-Jan-25 06:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nael_fr**: And forgot the workers working in it needing RAT and OVE [02-Jan-25 06:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nael_fr**: Yeah I have a all the infrastructures, no problem with that [02-Jan-25 06:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: how much rat & ove do you need? [02-Jan-25 06:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: I sent you 2 contracts for the RATs and OVEs [02-Jan-25 06:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nael_fr**: I received your contracts Lumerz, but I want to pay, I have the money don't worry about that [02-Jan-25 06:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nael_fr**: About 5 OVE and 40 RATS is enough, I can bring the rest later, it is to start producing before before I do an other travel to the station [02-Jan-25 06:19 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: It's fine. You can do the same for someone in future when your base is booming [02-Jan-25 06:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nael_fr**: Well thanks then, guess I'm fine living on a socialist planet [02-Jan-25 06:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Cheers [02-Jan-25 06:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nael_fr**: Sorry to bother again, I need like 2 DW to start produce my own [02-Jan-25 06:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nael_fr**: Workers thirsty, it takes 10 hours to make my first DW [02-Jan-25 06:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: put ad up for u [02-Jan-25 06:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nael_fr**: On local market ? [02-Jan-25 06:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: 10 for 1, yes [02-Jan-25 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: you need here or prom? [02-Jan-25 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nael_fr**: Here [02-Jan-25 06:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: ye ad is up [02-Jan-25 06:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nael_fr**: Okay looking again [02-Jan-25 06:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: SELLING 10 Drinking Water (DW) @ 1.00 ICA (PPU: 0.10) for collection within 1 day [02-Jan-25 06:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: going to work, be back in 20 [02-Jan-25 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nael_fr**: Found it, was on the wrong planet, I'm still not very with the mobile version [02-Jan-25 06:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nael_fr**: Thank you it means a lot [02-Jan-25 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: not a problem, ready to go! [02-Jan-25 08:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Welcome to Avalon. [02-Jan-25 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **nael_fr**: I have an empty ship (500t and 500m^3) to send to Hortus Station or Promitor if someone want to ship something [02-Jan-25 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nap253** joined.* [02-Jan-25 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: @nael_fr still here? [02-Jan-25 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Sent a contract in case you were :] [02-Jan-25 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: @Nap253 are you a returning player? your name is very familiar [02-Jan-25 10:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Oh yeah! Definitely a returning player. [03-Jan-25 01:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nael_fr**: sent it @MysteriousWalrus [03-Jan-25 01:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **nael_fr**: It will arrive in 24h, glad to do business with you [03-Jan-25 10:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***LancerCaster** left.* [03-Jan-25 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Thank you! :} [03-Jan-25 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Chicken412** joined.* [05-Jan-25 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user83475abf09** left.* [05-Jan-25 01:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***katarosai392** joined.* [05-Jan-25 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Aklho** joined.* [07-Jan-25 07:49 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DrSamuelHayden** left.* [08-Jan-25 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dracoholt** joined.* [09-Jan-25 06:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Sive** joined.* [09-Jan-25 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Dracoholt** left.* [11-Jan-25 08:58 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Shilendim** left.* [12-Jan-25 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Taylsa** joined.* [13-Jan-25 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***userdfbbdbb5d9** left.* [14-Jan-25 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***monsooncrackle** left.* [16-Jan-25 05:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user774923edc1** left.* [16-Jan-25 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***usercf575dac75** left.* [18-Jan-25 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DeltaNova** left.* [18-Jan-25 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***starburner2** joined.* [20-Jan-25 12:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Neralath** joined.* [20-Jan-25 02:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nathanhgomez** joined.* [20-Jan-25 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **nathanhgomez**: hello? [20-Jan-25 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Hi, need help? [20-Jan-25 05:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Hi. [20-Jan-25 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: hey [20-Jan-25 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Jazmar**: hello [20-Jan-25 06:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: Yo [21-Jan-25 04:39 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Potchama** joined.* [23-Jan-25 07:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userd2f5ec3f2a** left.* [23-Jan-25 07:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **harveyG**: anyone got 28 MCG on Avalon by chance? I put up an LM AD [23-Jan-25 08:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: dang, that's a lot of LM orders up for FIM @ 145/u [23-Jan-25 08:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: somehow i feel like those were supposed to be RAT [23-Jan-25 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user45ce98c404** left.* [23-Jan-25 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: @harveyG If you end up running short on repair mats, just send me a pair of conts to borrow what you need & replace it when you'd next have a ship coming in. I almost always have stock on site. Same offer's up for anyone else. [23-Jan-25 08:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: I swore I put the stuff in the other day. Thanks to @Andy97 for brining it to my attention :o [23-Jan-25 09:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: oh no [24-Jan-25 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Valyjoa1823** joined.* [26-Jan-25 12:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Stonk**: Need a shipment to Avalon. It is on HRT LM [26-Jan-25 04:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user920fd2cb60** left.* [26-Jan-25 05:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***starburner2** left.* [27-Jan-25 02:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***userbf34940160** left.* [28-Jan-25 12:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Stonk**: 3 urgent shipping ads HRT - AVA on HRT LM [28-Jan-25 06:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: all my building conditions are at 39% [28-Jan-25 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Please fix that. [28-Jan-25 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: it is in fact only 13 mcg cheaper than destroying and rebuilding [28-Jan-25 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: 13/ea [28-Jan-25 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Don't suppose you HAPPEN to be coming here from HRT sooner than 11 hrs, file? [28-Jan-25 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Whatcha need? [28-Jan-25 06:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: i dont know how to do math , so conservatively have like 50/m of stuffs to be brought over:P [28-Jan-25 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: no, I made number up. atleast 10x that [28-Jan-25 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: I'm available to ship too if necessary [28-Jan-25 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: would be appreciated, lemme send over [28-Jan-25 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: note to dev, a button on someones USR page to initiate a contd would be dope [28-Jan-25 06:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: I've got a sublight-only WCB boat in the system, so if you're really hard up it'll always be around. Well, until gates drop, maybe. [28-Jan-25 06:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: appreciated! I've got one that will be ther ein 12 hrs but eh [28-Jan-25 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: yoooo first time using multi-item ship contract. that's fire [28-Jan-25 06:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: wait... [28-Jan-25 06:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: This is my first time looking at a multi-item shipping contract [28-Jan-25 06:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Damn [28-Jan-25 06:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: I'll concede it's a hair ambiguous [28-Jan-25 06:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: lol [28-Jan-25 06:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Alrighty, en route! [28-Jan-25 06:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: 3 hr 21 min [28-Jan-25 06:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: you're beautiful, on the inside atleast [28-Jan-25 06:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Thank you, thank you [29-Jan-25 12:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***nathanhgomez** left.* [29-Jan-25 01:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Stonk**: Someone has 2 LTA on planet? 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[09-Feb-25 03:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Oteador**: no [09-Feb-25 04:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SSharkyy**: too bad [11-Feb-25 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SSharkyy**: how do you cancel request for mat at exchange ? [11-Feb-25 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SSharkyy**: passed an offer without meaning it [11-Feb-25 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: You can see your CX order sheet with "CXOS" in a new buffer and cancel a bid or listing there. [12-Feb-25 04:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***usere74a994198** left.* [13-Feb-25 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Phantoccini** left.* [14-Feb-25 01:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***user3e3b3aaf1b** left.* [15-Feb-25 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ISHO** left.* [16-Feb-25 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Avionixal** joined.* [17-Feb-25 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***nike115599** joined.* [18-Feb-25 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SSharkyy**: didn't thanks you, so i do, thank you, sir [18-Feb-25 02:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **SSharkyy**: i find it on my own, but anyway ;) [19-Feb-25 10:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Atomiccow** joined.* [19-Feb-25 10:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Atomiccow**: I'm back :P [19-Feb-25 08:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Don't forget to vote in the election! I may be a little biased, but @MysteriousWalrus has been governor here for a long time and he's done a really good job. [19-Feb-25 08:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: My boss at my work tells me that all the time..... I still haven't gotten a raise. :( [19-Feb-25 09:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: It's crazy how many people have been runing here, even more than Prom [19-Feb-25 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Its cuz -- if you haven't started on Prom, you'll never get there. Avalon is the next best thing. [19-Feb-25 11:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Your boss is telling you to vote for MysteriousWalrus? Wow, he really has some pull. [20-Feb-25 08:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Eh. I'd usually be rofl'ing at ^ that. But I'm looking at different metrics... Lets See. GOV VH-331g ... term #44 (first term under the politics update) --- 53 votes tallied... The Latest Term #51 --- 26 votes tallied. [20-Feb-25 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: A drastic drop? Perhaps. Maybe this whole politics thing is just a bore for people? Who knows. [20-Feb-25 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: It can be, especially when the governor is someone like MysteriousWalrus or SHAITR who can basically run things on their own [20-Feb-25 08:57 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: Doesn’t give parliament too much to do [20-Feb-25 09:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Sort of, kind-of? Most of the maths behind GOV stuff just centers around "reasonable" LR rates, which eventually brings in a flow of revenues to fund 1) COGCs, 2) POPI upkeeps... and 3) POPI upgrades. But that's just #napkin maths. [20-Feb-25 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Most of the real work comes in supplying #'s 1 --> 3, on a monthly basis, which people have to use their ships + capital to do the work... And then eventually file motions for reimbursement of said expenses, and whatnot. [20-Feb-25 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: with an active parliament, said gov doesn't have to wait 24 hours for the reimbursement, or to activate programs/changes/etc [20-Feb-25 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Life happens.. Most big planets have to wait 24 hours anyways... Just plug the motions 1 day ahead of time, and you basically have the problem solved? [20-Feb-25 09:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Easy to type. Hard to do. [20-Feb-25 09:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: hmmm, I do have an idea though.... [20-Feb-25 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Lets say, the LR rates on any planet get increased just slightly... The added surplus revenues can then be used to justify salaries for "busy work" for any interested PM members on said planet, to then ... say ... plug in accounting figures on a group g-sheet... to plug in motion details per GOV direction... and so on. [20-Feb-25 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: People have to start somewhere in their life experiences, and well... If you're facing a brick wall of politics, you might as well volunteer some of your time to plug in some #deets, on a minuscule pay-roll. Why? You'll learn the metrics really fast. :) [20-Feb-25 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: I'm just floating that idea. :P [20-Feb-25 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Salary has been raised some places. I'm not sure of anyone who actually does it though. [20-Feb-25 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Potchama**: What are "#deets"? [20-Feb-25 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: It's more applicable on the larger planets. The small 1 --> 20 person project colonies out there don't need them, since the GOVs there handle everything... But there's room on the larger planets to make room, and to give work, to anyone interested.... [20-Feb-25 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Deets? Uhm..... [20-Feb-25 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Weekly accounting details. If you've secured an office somewhere, then you get to switch "screens", that shows you the planet's finances, on a weekly basis, from every Sunday at 2400 UST? or something like that. [20-Feb-25 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Potchama**: Oh, I see [20-Feb-25 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: Players don't see that either. It's basically "hidden". [20-Feb-25 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: The stuff is not particularly useful.... since If I do some maths on your planet, you won't have to worry about pretty much anything for a few years in terms of "reasonable" GOV revenues... But then I'll be killing off any learning experiences that people might want. [20-Feb-25 10:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: I'm just trying to eek out as much larping and fun that I can see... that is possible in this game.. The larping doesn't have to be competitive either... since whatever people learn, or look into during their PM days ... can be easily applied when they form their own CORP and start up some new colony, on some planet in this verse. [20-Feb-25 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Roh**: It's whatever. I'm gone for the day., [20-Feb-25 04:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ZionOrion** left.* [20-Feb-25 05:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NotPeaK** left.* [21-Feb-25 09:42 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Nyannnism** left.* [21-Feb-25 11:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***celesteialcutie** joined.* [21-Feb-25 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: *waves [21-Feb-25 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: o7 [21-Feb-25 10:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Howdy! [21-Feb-25 11:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: *gets seasick* [22-Feb-25 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***marismols** left.* [23-Feb-25 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: :o [23-Feb-25 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: :𝓸 [24-Feb-25 05:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Avionixal**: ~_~ [24-Feb-25 06:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***GoldEagle95** joined.* [25-Feb-25 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Avionixal**: I'm looking to join a corp if anyone is recruiting, i want that +10% corp bonus! [25-Feb-25 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: Aw man @rinoic, you pounced too quick! [25-Feb-25 04:54 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Potchama**: Wait, there is a bonus? [25-Feb-25 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Only if your corporation has built its HQ and only on the planet where it has built that HQ. [25-Feb-25 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: the corp he joined does not currently have a hq built, so no bonus [25-Feb-25 08:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Avionixal**: yeah, i figured it was too hard to find one on my planets. im pretty sure both avalon and promitor are starter planets so both are ineligible anyways [25-Feb-25 08:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Avionixal**: for hq's [25-Feb-25 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: prom is, avalon is not [25-Feb-25 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: but youre right, they are both pretty full [25-Feb-25 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Yo, space nerds. anyone know offhand within the next..24 hours soonest time for shortest flight time to HRT? [25-Feb-25 09:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: (not present company specifically being space nerds, unless that's your thing) [25-Feb-25 09:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: its 491 mill km away rn so..what's peak orbit..? [25-Feb-25 09:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: ^ that's a space nerd ? [25-Feb-25 09:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: just floor it and you'll get there faster [25-Feb-25 09:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: so 100 STL, 2D5H, 414 km compared to...7162 STL, 2H38M, 589km.. [25-Feb-25 09:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: so...it's getting closer.. [25-Feb-25 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: for atleast 2D [25-Feb-25 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: I tend not to account for fuel consumption unless its a sleep/overnight thing [25-Feb-25 09:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: a few hundred thousand quid in fuel costs against millions in weekly sales/profit...not worth the time/math.... [25-Feb-25 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: specifically weas just the min max gauge, otherwise I agree I'm not too worried about fuel. but I have recently added an stl only HCB to my 'fleet' that is now maybe a third full and was morbidly curious if the differences would amount to anything, at this point [25-Feb-25 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: also the distance here to HRT is of little consequence anyway lol but was just being extra lol [25-Feb-25 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: it'd be cool if there was a less antiquated way to guage planetary orbit [25-Feb-25 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: gauge [25-Feb-25 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: short of pulling up the map? [25-Feb-25 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: BLU but i dislike using that to map [25-Feb-25 09:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: yeah, I'm running a few different ship builds now, though all ftl capable thankfully....it differs depending on ship, as well as the orbit metrics [25-Feb-25 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: trying out one big hauler to handle this system, then can bump my 3 or 4 of my 4 starter build ships elsewhere to colonize a different hexagon [25-Feb-25 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: MS - but who on earth has the time to play with that and map it out and figure orbital times and then match that up with their game-time for max efficiency/performance [25-Feb-25 09:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Exactky [25-Feb-25 09:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: just make a shit-ton of cash, and buy fuel, problem solved [25-Feb-25 09:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: alternatively 'making' fuel [25-Feb-25 09:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: I'm actually finding it difficult to actively employ all my ships now that all eight are ftl-capable (and another set for delivery next week) - and another three on order for a few months away (I think)....making fuel, I've got a guy for that (I make him food) [25-Feb-25 09:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: right kinda my thinking. my operation of 3 bases this system 4 ships would have 2 sitting somewhere and I wouldn't say I'm working towards anything atm. so gonna try out 1 ship flying slow around on just STL and then move the rest of my boats to the otherside of the universe [25-Feb-25 09:44 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: I'm there - in MOR, HRT & BEN [25-Feb-25 09:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: have specifically maintained only PIOs out here, the upkeep is incredibly simple. +enough newer folks here to utilize LM more if needbe [25-Feb-25 09:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: think MOR next [27-Feb-25 06:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***DogGoblin** joined.* [27-Feb-25 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***nullus** joined.* [27-Feb-25 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***iopnpnun** joined.* [01-Mar-25 04:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TooLsMan** joined.* [01-Mar-25 04:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **TooLsMan**: \ [01-Mar-25 07:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: Welcome new folks! [01-Mar-25 09:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***BallPython2727** joined.* [01-Mar-25 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***celesteialcutie** left.* [01-Mar-25 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ERROR404_NOTFOND** joined.* [01-Mar-25 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DrafanGravanc**: If anyone's looking to offload RATs at ~CX price, I posted a bunch of ads on the LM. [02-Mar-25 09:27 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***CptColeslaw** joined.* [03-Mar-25 07:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BallPython2727**: hey does anyone wanna buy some rations on Avalon? Ima have 700 in abt an hour and don't feel like shipping to cxl [03-Mar-25 07:43 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BallPython2727**: I'd sell for 155 a piece [03-Mar-25 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: RAT.IC1 [03-Mar-25 08:14 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: Avalon is an FI world, so lots of folks produce RAT here, you don't get to charge a premium above CX ask for the convenience - you're selling your surplus production, bulk buyers will take it off your hands at a discount (saves you the shipping). [03-Mar-25 08:18 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: for example, I took 7 contracts off Avalon LM this morning for 500 RAT @ 150 each.... [03-Mar-25 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BallPython2727**: alr [03-Mar-25 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: convenience charges are expected on non-FI worlds - the further out, the higher the surcharge [03-Mar-25 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: you might reach out to @drafangravanc or @Vention - couple bulk rat buyers on Avalon [03-Mar-25 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 **BallPython2727**: bet thx [03-Mar-25 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: more than likely, the 3500 RAT I;m selling at 150 on Avalon LM will end up at Moria or Antares CX's (RAT.NC1 OR RAT.AI1) [03-Mar-25 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DrafanGravanc**: @BallPython2727 I just posted a few more LM ads for RATs. I'm always looking to buy :] [03-Mar-25 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DrafanGravanc**: And yeah in general, a lot of folks make RATs on Avalon, so prices tend to be a little under CX rather than over. [03-Mar-25 03:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BallPython2727**: good to know, I think I was having a brain fart bc it was a monday morning and all [03-Mar-25 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DrafanGravanc**: Haha, all good - it happens! [03-Mar-25 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Only curious, but where is the nearest viable FP planet? [03-Mar-25 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: not that FP is a hard popup anywhere [03-Mar-25 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Define viable. [03-Mar-25 11:35 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: The nearest big one I know is Epicer, out in the same system as Boucher. [03-Mar-25 11:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: There are a few small planets closer than that where someone has set up a CoGC. [03-Mar-25 11:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Someone did one on a planet in the same system as Shesmu. [03-Mar-25 11:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: epicer is probably along the lines of what I meant, ty. yea boucher. no ty [04-Mar-25 07:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MaxKalina**: Good day everyone! [04-Mar-25 07:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MaxKalina**: Posted an ad on LM for DW for 150 per unit, need it urgently [04-Mar-25 07:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MaxKalina**: Will appreciate quicl delivery [04-Mar-25 07:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MaxKalina**: *quick [04-Mar-25 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Cheers [04-Mar-25 07:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MaxKalina**: Thanks a lot! [04-Mar-25 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: There's AJ-293a by Lemuria, if you were looking to expand beyond that. [04-Mar-25 05:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Oh yeah, that's a nice one. [04-Mar-25 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: if you're not in a hurry, i have fp setup on vh-311h as well, just using it to convert water into dw [04-Mar-25 05:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: ^vh-331h [04-Mar-25 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Been eyeballing that, but...ugh. BL. [04-Mar-25 06:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Hey, Dzentak, let's you and me lead a revolt on Dreamerr Prime to oust the current governor and make it a FP planet. [04-Mar-25 06:10 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: I'm sure if we team up we can take out this...uh...Dzentak...guy... [04-Mar-25 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: nah i like the electronics too much :) [04-Mar-25 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: What've you got over there, anyway? [04-Mar-25 06:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: myself i'm just running edc on dreamerr [04-Mar-25 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Honestly -h might be the better swap in the long term if the trend is going to be toward EDC/IDC. Shipping hardly matters for it and at that level of income the repairs don't really either, especially since BL use is reduced with a base built for that vs. a FP farm. [04-Mar-25 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: dreamerr requires HSE instead of BL [04-Mar-25 06:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: HSE.IC1 BL.IC1 [04-Mar-25 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: So it does, for some reason I was thinking it was INS/SEA [04-Mar-25 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Yeah, no point in that then. [04-Mar-25 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: i intend to keep dreamerr electronics :) [04-Mar-25 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Yeah, it made some degree of sense if it was SEA, but HSE? Nah. [04-Mar-25 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Irksome as it is, I may end up settling on -h then. [04-Mar-25 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: i also had J setup as a HYF Agri COGC but I decided to allocate my permits elsewhere [04-Mar-25 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Yeah, permits getting dear are why I'm looking at it at all. Looking to trade in my 3 here for a 1/1 split. [04-Mar-25 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: so that's an open planet for someone to play with too that i'm not managing anymore [04-Mar-25 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: i already put in some basic infrastructure :) [04-Mar-25 06:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: That's a thought. [04-Mar-25 06:46 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: J is INS only [04-Mar-25 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Yeah, I've just gotta figure out what my FP needs really are, especially in relation to water. [04-Mar-25 06:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Would make sense to park something more FIM/MEA oriented out there, maybe, but at the same time a 3rd FP spec'd planet in the system just seems a waste. OTOH all the water for a HYF planet would suck. [04-Mar-25 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: i was just using it for rations. if you're concerned about the water hauling the HCB definitely makes that a bit easier, moving 25k h2o at a time [04-Mar-25 07:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Nah, I wouldn't be using it as a HYF planet, I was just weighing the possible utility for folks down the line vs. my own individual needs. [04-Mar-25 07:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: No interest in it as anything but a cheaper upkeep food industries planet personally. [04-Mar-25 09:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: I was looking at J this morning actually as a possible HYF destination (since I can't get on Prom)....but a second FI in system could work too [04-Mar-25 09:42 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: ^since all my bases are single-permit [05-Mar-25 06:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: it would be a 3rd FP [07-Mar-25 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Weesh** joined.* [09-Mar-25 04:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DrafanGravanc**: Anyone have uh.. up to 7k H2O available for sale? I posted 7 above-market LM ads, 1k each :] [09-Mar-25 04:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DrafanGravanc**: please.. my thirsty workers... they cannot sustain on COF alone D: [09-Mar-25 04:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: will check in a minute, in a different context atm [09-Mar-25 04:46 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DrafanGravanc**: DW**** Not H2O. See, dehydrated brain. [09-Mar-25 04:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: guessing someone grabbed them already? not seeing ads on Avalon for DW [09-Mar-25 04:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: I see them on Prom LM [09-Mar-25 04:52 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: I think he's really in need of some hydration [09-Mar-25 06:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***TooLsMan** left.* [09-Mar-25 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ERROR404_NOTFOND** left.* [09-Mar-25 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DrafanGravanc**: oh my god I am so sorry yall lol [09-Mar-25 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DrafanGravanc**: Alright, I'm a man of my word. DW postings on LM at the same price :] I clearly need to drink more water. [10-Mar-25 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Arkhaiel** left.* [11-Mar-25 06:56 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Zagotech** joined.* [11-Mar-25 08:03 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***ChristoAmor** left.* [12-Mar-25 05:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Potchama**: Any chance someone has 15 DW they could send a contract for me to buy? [12-Mar-25 05:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Willger**: contract send [12-Mar-25 05:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Potchama**: Thanks. 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[24-Mar-25 04:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: (stock-piling at the moment, for the next run on my base supply contract) [25-Mar-25 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***user5a9d3d2f80** left.* [25-Mar-25 04:22 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Cliffs_Fall** left.* [25-Mar-25 08:40 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***3-Kids-in-a-Trench-Coat** joined.* [25-Mar-25 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127 **3-Kids-in-a-Trench-Coat**: How do you do fellow Food folks :) [25-Mar-25 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Hey, welcome to where the magic happens. [25-Mar-25 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: I like your name lol. Welcome to Beantopia [25-Mar-25 12:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 **3-Kids-in-a-Trench-Coat**: ha ha - thanks! - about time I join in on the bean-fest, right? :D [25-Mar-25 12:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **3-Kids-in-a-Trench-Coat**: or at least the bean-processing-fest [25-Mar-25 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Serzath** joined.* [25-Mar-25 07:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***NDP** joined.* [25-Mar-25 08:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 **0ctave**: I've got 500t/m3 worth of space on a ship leaving from avalon to Hortus Promitor (VH-331a) soon, feel free to toss a contract my way if you want freight moved [25-Mar-25 09:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NDP**: I have to ask the stupid question. What makes BEA a preferred input over other recipes? [25-Mar-25 09:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NDP**: Please do not beat me for heresy. I seek the wisdom of beanz. [25-Mar-25 09:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: It's strictly a meme. [25-Mar-25 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NDP**: praise beanz then [25-Mar-25 09:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Religious, not economic, behavior. [25-Mar-25 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: I only grow BEA, but I don't discriminate in my FP - I'll buy ALG and MUS [25-Mar-25 09:30 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: my hyf is dedicated to caf and rco [25-Mar-25 10:48 PM] ApexChat#8127 **NDP**: i aspire to grow CAF for mostly emotional reasons. but have other plans first. [26-Mar-25 12:08 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PurpleOrange**: for farms, between beans and nuts since they occupy the same spot in RAT recipes, beans output more stuff but costs more in water [26-Mar-25 12:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PurpleOrange**: if you valued both of them the same, BEA starts to become better when the price goes up or if the price of water goes down. [26-Mar-25 12:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PurpleOrange**: sorry, thats a mistake, beans don't occupy the same spot as nut [26-Mar-25 12:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PurpleOrange**: beans contest ALG and MUS for the spot in the rat recipe, which are only made in hydroponics. [26-Mar-25 12:13 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PurpleOrange**: so players without access to hydroponics and who want to make all the RAT inputs themselves should make BEA. [26-Mar-25 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127 **NDP**: good to know. for the record i like nuts and beans. they feel very similar. [26-Mar-25 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I ran BEA/NUT/GRN for a long time until I switched to offworld hydroponics. [26-Mar-25 06:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kiinyo** left.* [27-Mar-25 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Qaj** joined.* [29-Mar-25 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: going to prom with 2500/690 free if anyone needs something loaded in the next..5 min [29-Mar-25 07:52 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BallPython2727**: ill take that deal [29-Mar-25 07:53 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: I readily await your ads. lm or con ur call [29-Mar-25 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: just the one? [29-Mar-25 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BallPython2727**: yeah I just got a little to send [29-Mar-25 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: perfect, Just didn't wanna miss it if you had more [29-Mar-25 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BallPython2727**: got it, thanks 🙏 [29-Mar-25 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: be there in roughly 4 hours. will do my best to remeber to hop on and fulfill at that time :) [29-Mar-25 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: remember even [29-Mar-25 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BallPython2727**: ur good no rush [29-Mar-25 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Do you rember the twny-fif nigh of Decber? [29-Mar-25 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Love was changing minds of petenders. [29-Mar-25 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: While chasing the clouds away. [29-Mar-25 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Or something like that. [29-Mar-25 08:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Sir, this is a Wendy's [30-Mar-25 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **NDP**: Is the name of one of my ships. [30-Mar-25 11:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***nullus** left.* [30-Mar-25 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***DavikCo** joined.* [30-Mar-25 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: hi :D [30-Mar-25 10:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BallPython2727**: wsg [30-Mar-25 11:04 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: Welcome! [31-Mar-25 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: Hey so i know we are working on techs, how long do you think it wil ltake for us to fill the 700ish open tech slots? [31-Mar-25 04:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***ThatSniperKatt** joined.* [31-Mar-25 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Kell_storm** joined.* [31-Mar-25 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **stackem**: I have a tremendous pile of CAF to process. Summary details: processor paid 160/processed + 20% of production. PM for additional details [01-Apr-25 02:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***MantasaA** left.* [01-Apr-25 07:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: Anyone on planet have 1 BBH and 1 BDE? 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[09-Apr-25 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Yeah. [09-Apr-25 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Jaffa**: wow [09-Apr-25 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: curiouser and curiouser [09-Apr-25 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127 **3-Kids-in-a-Trench-Coat**: No one can deny the pull of Avalon [09-Apr-25 06:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: facts [09-Apr-25 08:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Amen [09-Apr-25 10:51 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Lihrha_Wolfe** joined.* [10-Apr-25 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: @DavikCo Did you ever get your BMats? [10-Apr-25 11:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: If not, send me a cont and I'll fix you up. [10-Apr-25 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thabichi**: please anyone has some exo and pt? [10-Apr-25 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **thabichi**: put some ads on LM [10-Apr-25 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rinoic** joined.* [11-Apr-25 05:54 AM] ApexChat#8127 ***Rento247** joined.* [11-Apr-25 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***Morango** joined.* [11-Apr-25 08:59 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DavikCo**: i did, thank you though! [11-Apr-25 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Hey Rento247 is back again [11-Apr-25 09:34 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: !!! [11-Apr-25 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: Hey hey heyyyy~ ^_^ [11-Apr-25 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: Ye, got sudden cracing to soak in charts and growing numbers, so I'm back again. Starting from zero and loving it :) [11-Apr-25 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: craving* [11-Apr-25 11:05 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DrafanGravanc**: holy shit welcome back! [11-Apr-25 11:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: Thanks :) [11-Apr-25 11:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: welcome back - guessing I'm new(er) [11-Apr-25 11:08 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: Ye dunno in which sense, my current company is registered 150 days ago, but honestly I've been playing but a month now. Just got my Promitor fully stacked up for FRM's :3 [11-Apr-25 11:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: have a few of those, just not on Prom [11-Apr-25 11:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: If you're up for it, I have this little project where I lease a permit from you for a H2O base on Boucher, and you can do what you want with it after 30 days [11-Apr-25 11:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: always willing to buy surplus [11-Apr-25 11:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: @SCHAITER Yee, I noticed that :D. And you know, I just might give try for that, now that I renewed my subscription too [11-Apr-25 11:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: @Zugore Currently I'm selling the excess GRN/VEG at HRT for 300 bucks, untill I got my Avalon fully stacked on FP's. If you have counter offer on that, I'm all ears :) [11-Apr-25 11:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: @SCHAITR Should have free permit available within.. 3 days or so, give or take [12-Apr-25 12:00 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Alright just let me know :) [12-Apr-25 12:31 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: yup! ^_^ [12-Apr-25 11:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Welcome back @Rento247 o/ [12-Apr-25 11:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: Oh shit, welcome back! [13-Apr-25 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: thank you, thank you :) [13-Apr-25 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***chaituksk** joined.* [14-Apr-25 07:26 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Zooey**: Where's the best place to purchased LHP from? [14-Apr-25 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Dzentak**: MOR atm [14-Apr-25 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ravick**: @Rento247 whoa, welcome back! [14-Apr-25 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Rento247**: @Ravick cheers ^_^ [14-Apr-25 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Ravick**: Been a while, good to see you back [14-Apr-25 06:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***mmirgkaz** joined.* [15-Apr-25 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***BlackBelt2007** joined.* [15-Apr-25 01:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlackBelt2007**: I just started a new base here and totally forgot to bring a supply of basic overalls, can someone send me a contract for like 20? [15-Apr-25 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Stonk**: Sent you a cont [15-Apr-25 01:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Stonk**: Welcome to the planet [15-Apr-25 01:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlackBelt2007**: Thanks! [15-Apr-25 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: Welcome! May your Foods be delicious [15-Apr-25 01:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlackBelt2007**: They are :) [15-Apr-25 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127 **BlackBelt2007**: Well as delicious as one can get by combining grain, beans, and vegetables together for a meal [15-Apr-25 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: Yum! [16-Apr-25 10:07 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Jeez Louise. Talk about timing on this technician rush. [16-Apr-25 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PurpleOrange**: I planted a full 700 thinking that I'd get about half of it filled. I got 132 lol [16-Apr-25 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PurpleOrange**: does that mean there are ~86 players with IVP on this planet or is my understanding of things wrong? [16-Apr-25 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Stonk**: 2500 open tech jobs, damn ;D [16-Apr-25 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **MysteriousWalrus**: Jeeez! We can only bring in so many at a time lol [16-Apr-25 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: boy, i'm glad i don't have a full IVP base [16-Apr-25 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Bad time to be breaking into the IVP game. [16-Apr-25 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Tail end of the MEA boom and it seems poised to get worse. [16-Apr-25 11:36 AM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: i see MEA crashing hard in a month or two [16-Apr-25 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Andy97**: ^ [16-Apr-25 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Yeah, look at that, MEA ask just dropped 140 AIC even as I was speaking. [16-Apr-25 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Hahahah. [16-Apr-25 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Buckle in, boys. [16-Apr-25 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Morango**: Hmm, I just got here I was a going to build an IVP to go along with my FPs and start producing MTP and MEA... Is that a bad idea? [16-Apr-25 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: Well i suspect its all triggered by the planned nerfing of IDC [16-Apr-25 12:06 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Well, MEA went through the roof, people started spinning up IVPs to take advantage, and then as it started to come down the nerf got announced. [16-Apr-25 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: So it's kind of a one-two combo that is probably gonna hurt since IVPs have low flexibility. [16-Apr-25 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127 **3-Kids-in-a-Trench-Coat**: which one is IDC? nerfing because it's too profitable? [16-Apr-25 12:16 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: IDC is a SCI workforce product that has no inputs and a market maker with a high price to sell into. [16-Apr-25 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morango**: Ah, I see. Over supply coming + the nerf. I guess I'll go look up the details on that... [16-Apr-25 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: So it's spendy to set up operations, a bit spendy to keep them going, but requires next to no logistics and has an assured return. [16-Apr-25 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Basically they're cutting the MM from 1530 -> 1100 over the course of May. [16-Apr-25 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: It's still not bad, but it's also not the same degree of money printer that it was. [16-Apr-25 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: I've got one IDC base and I'll probably keep it. I was going to make 3 and the other two are up in the air now. [16-Apr-25 12:20 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morango**: I see... Well at least the MM is still okayish. Good heads up to make sure we diversify properly though, so thanks! [16-Apr-25 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: That's mostly because I already make MEA/WIN and I don't really chase maximized profit, so there's value in it as a low volatility easily fed income stream to me. [16-Apr-25 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morango**: is the nerf why firefreak quit? [16-Apr-25 12:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: I haven't heard that FF stated a reason. [16-Apr-25 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morango**: I see, well, thanks for all the info. Trying to see what the region will need most next to get setup properly [16-Apr-25 12:26 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: FF quit? well that sucks....but that could be part of it seeing as how he built out entire systems of E-bases out in the boonies. [16-Apr-25 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: TBQH IVPs are probably the one ag-related building that is even kinda risky. [16-Apr-25 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: In terms of food processing, FER and FP both have plenty of flexibility and a pretty reasonable universal demand. [16-Apr-25 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morango**: yeah, when i first started I wanted to head towards KOM and FER but oh the $$ looks so sweet with FIM and MEA lol [16-Apr-25 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: I mean, may still be viable depending on what your expectations are and how the IDC thing shakes out. [16-Apr-25 12:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: If you're expecting >6K/u for MEA at any volume you may be in for a rough time, but if you're planning for like...4K with anything above being a bonus, I wouldn't be sweating too much. [16-Apr-25 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Stonk**: Firefreak mentioned in DC that he just got bored [16-Apr-25 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Morango**: ah okay, thanks Stonk [16-Apr-25 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Yeah, FireFreak quit before the market maker changes were announced. [16-Apr-25 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: quick someone dox them and send them a letter (physical) telling them of the MM changes [16-Apr-25 03:17 PM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: (disclaimer, above statement was made in jest) [16-Apr-25 05:02 PM] ApexChat#8127 ***JohnnyBon2011** joined.* [16-Apr-25 05:38 PM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: Yes I also expect anything related to IDC production to return to normal, and one of them is MEA. Those who specially built IVPs to take advantage of the high prices should prepare for a much lower price in the coming weeks [16-Apr-25 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I expect we will see a big drop in MEA demand as well. I wouldn't encourage plans that count on MTP/MEA prices remaining where they are. [16-Apr-25 06:18 PM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: tempted to get out of MEA before it crashes [16-Apr-25 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: i suspect all IVP products will see a sharp decline in prices [16-Apr-25 06:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **jcheung9941**: like VG [16-Apr-25 06:21 PM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: Might be good to move to those [16-Apr-25 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JohnnyBon2011**: hello [16-Apr-25 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: I'm curious to see if we have an overcorrection by people trying to avoid the MEA recession. [16-Apr-25 06:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: all bets are off [16-Apr-25 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: One way or another, it'll be nice to see people getting back to the honest work of making RATs. [16-Apr-25 07:12 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Back in my day.... [16-Apr-25 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: haven't stopped [16-Apr-25 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **JohnnyBon2011**: i have been making RAT this whole time even though i know FIM would make more [16-Apr-25 07:24 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Zugore**: from the ground to the eatery [16-Apr-25 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Same. [16-Apr-25 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: By the workers for the workers. [16-Apr-25 07:27 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Filefolders**: Pioneers feeding pioneers. [16-Apr-25 07:32 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: All in service to the Mighty Bean [16-Apr-25 08:45 PM] ApexChat#8127 **mmirgkaz**: all hail the bean [17-Apr-25 12:51 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Stonk**: Here I am, shutting down my RAT base in order to make MTP [17-Apr-25 12:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Morango**: I think I'll make FIM till it crashes and let those with IVPs already make MTP... The question is, where will the veteran players who were investing heavy into IVP start investing now... [17-Apr-25 01:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Stonk**: Newly setup IVP bases can easily be demolished and give back most of the construction materials. For players that have the base longer, it is a bigger loss as you don't recover anything anymore from the habitations. So I would think the more recent setup bases will just be demolished again and the older players keep their bases. [17-Apr-25 01:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Stonk**: Do we see MEA production in monthly report? That will give a good idea if the production has really scaled up already [17-Apr-25 01:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Morango**: exactly but, my point was, when those bases get demolished, what is done with the mats? Whatever industry they go to is probably a good one to get into now [17-Apr-25 01:12 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Morango**: I don't know enough to answer it myself unfortunately lol [17-Apr-25 03:20 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PurpleOrange**: all the IVP planets are limited by TEC, so MEA production won't really have gone up too much. Avalon in the last week would have increased MEA production by about 38 units a day. [17-Apr-25 03:29 AM] ApexChat#8127 **PurpleOrange**: I'd keep an eye on ALE prices honestly. All the best MM's need a bunch of TEC jobs. [17-Apr-25 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: @stonk according to the report production held pretty steady last month, mean of 4445 per day, going up to5367 [17-Apr-25 09:02 AM] ApexChat#8127 **CoinCrafter23**: Over the past three months it appears to have increased by about 100% galaxy wide [17-Apr-25 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127 **--SCHAITR--**: And it's about to come down as people abandon IDC bases [17-Apr-25 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: ^ [17-Apr-25 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: I'm curious to see the people convert off IDC, coming from something so artificially 'economically reliable' [17-Apr-25 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127 **Stonk**: People with IDC bases better ask around if someone needs WAI before demolishing. Might as well keep the SL if they are old. [17-Apr-25 12:09 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: I haven't crunched the numbers yet, but I'm pretty sure IDC will still be economically reliable...it just won't be quite the money printing machine it was. [17-Apr-25 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127 **DeniedClimax**: Just wait till the meds run out [17-Apr-25 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: Not something I'm gonna be super worried about for a bit. Or probably at all. [17-Apr-25 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127 **Pomme_de_Terroriste**: If it gets too stupid I'll just start making them myself, already make most of the precursors. 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